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Uwee hee hee hee! Welcome, editors, to the Dragon's Neck Colosseum! My name is Ultros the receptionist, and each week I'm taking bets as to who will win in a tussle between two characters from the Final Fantasy series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll, really. The Colosseum owner stuck me on this duty after Kefka was defeated, but I need the money! So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

The Rules, Briefly

Functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that week.

  • You may vote only once.
  • If you are a user, please include your vote in the user section.
  • If you are not a user, please include your vote in the anonymous section.
  • To vote, leave the following "#~~~~" and you are required to leave this whether you are logged in or anonymous.
  • If you wish to comment on the fight, please leave your remarks in the peanut gallery. You are expected to conduct yourself with courtesy. Comments must relate to the fight at hand.
  • Do not alter the format of this page.

Any failure to adhere to these rules will result in your vote(s) being removed. Ties may be called if the victor won by a margin of 10% or less.

Week 142: Lightning vs Terra

FFXIII-Lightning CG
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WINNER!
Undecided 		The first lady of Final Fantasy versus the challenger to her crown. With Final Fantasy XIII freshly released, Lightning is going to make quite the impact in the days to come, but enough of an impact to take on Terra's fans? WINNER!
Undecided

Votes for Lightning

  1. Lightning is everything a female protaganist should be: Iron-willed, determined, strong, and most importantly, not falling over every guy she sees. Also important: She doesn't care to know what love is. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 05:42, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  2. I want to like this girl so much, she intrigues me, she's just about the most iconic protaganist square have made (for all intents and purposes) and she is much more powerful and determined than any of her predecessors Hamfruitcake 09 11:30, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  3. I like very much her. Is determinated, has a strong personality, and is sooo beautyful. In conclusion, what better? ; ) .:Vaati:. 11:54, March 11, 2010 (GMT)
  4. IMO it's too soon to give Lightning into the fight, because very few people have finnished FFXIII and got deep into the story, so they can fully judge her character... But I am one of the few people who did not enjoyed FFVI a lot, and Lightning has something in her, what I do like about real life women, so she is definately getting my vote over Terra MMLN メーマウリアン 12:18, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Never played VI so Lightning has to get my vote. JasarDaConqueror 12:46, March 11, 2010
  6. Honestly, I haven't played either game. But I have played Dissidia and I think that Terra is just a bit to soft, even if she is a mage. Therefore, the insane, non-caring character that seems cold gets my vote. Updraft Reiza
  7. What happens if you took kick-ass Squal and made him female? You'd get Lightning. Even their names are weather reference. And hey, isn't that another Gunblade-style weapon? If half the videos I've seen are true, she can kick-arse without going totally berserk and without no fancy genetics thing messin' with her. For once, I'm voting on someone I barely know. Noobking87

Anonymous Votes

Votes for Terra

  1. (Terra = ♥) The Cheez TALK 05:14, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  2. I just can't go against Terra, even if I love Lightning as well. Oerba Yun Fang's Husband 05:38, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Terra gets my vote because she wasn't mean and only available on a console that I currently can't afford! xD JohnnyC 05:44, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  4. Female Cloud? Srsly. Vanity 06:04, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  5. She is not a jerk. Even though Claire is a better name, I vote for Terra. FaythOfFenrir 06:08, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  6. I have to go with Terra. Sorry Lightning.--ClixPsi 06:13, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  7. She's half Esper! She can instantly change into a sexy naked super powerful esper that flies. Definitely wins this fight. CardboardBoxMan 06:23, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  8. Have to go with Terra, The original "almost" main female character. I have to pick Amano over Nomura when it comes to characters.Tetra Flare 06:25, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  9. I haven't played FFXIII yet, so I have to go with Terra. For now at least... SquallisbetterthanCloud 10:10, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  10. She loves Moogles, she's one of few people that make green hair look good and even if her hair ain green it still looks good. 'Nuff said! --Sencilia 11:22, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  11. I haven't played too much of XIII yet, and I do like the depth of all the characters in XIII, and by the end of the game this opinion may be reversed, but as of now this is where my vote falls. VI is my second favorite FF game, and while Terra doesn't do a whole lot during the second half, she's still the main character during the first half. -Nokareon
  12. Seriously. Duh. Terra is the master of game breaking magic combos, while still being clueless about love. Lightning is a Squall/Cloud fanservice. Oh, and Terra's theme. I'm going to link to the orchastrated version on my userpage now.Terran Storm
  13. I agree with votes 7 and 12. Pikmin Master 14:02, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  14. Terra all the way. oglop_master
  15. Lighting is the female version of the female protagonist Cloud? Lol, Terra pwns. Judge Balthier Griever Emblem 16:35, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
  16. Lol what a vote, female cloud? Seriously? Johuotar 16:40, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

Peanut Gallery

Okay TA, I changed it, you can come and change it yourself now! I hast perform the ritual to summon thee, now thee must appear! I left the last fight untallied because if experience has taught me anything other than the above, it’s that I can’t tally the fights properly. ^_^ Doreiku Kuroofangu 04:54, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Smooth, Drake. Very smooth. I suppose that's one way to get things done around here. The Cheez TALK 05:15, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Lightning looks like the illegitimate offspring of some hideous pink-haired creature and Order Sol from the Guilty Gear series, and she's a total bitch. Terra is quite simply awesome. She has green hair (which is infinitely cooler than pink hair) and is so much cuter! FFVI also happens to be my favorite game of the series. The Cheez TALK 05:42, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Flame war, commence! - +DeadlySlashSword+ 05:44, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

I love your logic, Drake. xD JohnnyC 05:45, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

I really can't tally the fights properly, I'm not sure how TA does it but we always get very different results, so obviously I'm not doing it right. Doreiku Kuroofangu 05:52, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
The thing is, he is right. TA has some strange someoneelsechangedtheDNC sense. FaythOfFenrir 06:06, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

This will be a very one-sided fight. Many people don't know anything about Lightning or haven't played ger game at all, while Terra has a decade and a half of fandom. I think it is poorly thought. Discordius 15:34, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

It's games like Final Fantasy XIII that make me wish Nintendo would do more than the Crystal Chronicles series... Now I'm gonna have to get a 360 or a PS3...Noobking87

Week 141: Falcon v. Blackjack

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WINNER!
Undecided 		If you were an 8-bit holdover captain of an airship, and these two beauts to choose between to captain, which would you have? WINNER!
Undecided

Votes for the Falcon

  1. Cut the Falcon some slack. I may not have the frills of the Blackjack like an unusable casino but, it's still a darn fine Airship with a nifty "round" design. (I do like BJ's color scheme better). Who cares what extra features a ship has as as long as it flies and gets to heroes to the baddies so they can lay the smackdown. AnonyMan 02:28, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Faethinte audio : No scene involving the Blackjack is as epic as the Falcon rising from Daryl's tomb while "Searching for Friends" plays in the background.
  3. Yup, the greatness of that scene is worth any vote.SquallisbetterthanCloud 10:52, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  4. SEARCHING FOR FRIENDS FTW! Seriously that scene of Falcon rising from the water is megaepic Johuotar 01:00, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
  5. What Fae said. Doreiku Kuroofangu 11:22, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Pity vote. Besides, I liked the World of Ruin better, anyway. If all of FFVI were like that, it may have been my favorite.Neo Bahamut 19:03, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Yeah, gotta go with Falcon. It epicly rose from the tomb and I beat Deathgaze on it. Moocowisi 19:23, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  8. I always like Endgame items better then early game items. KaiserPaladin 08:03, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
  9. FALCON PUNCH! ...That is the Falcon I'm voting for, right? Almagest 01:01, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
  10. Pity vote. Not for the Falcon, but for Setzer and Daryl. Intercision 12:43, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
  11. Rinoa leonheart 17:21, February 23, 2010 (UTC) O Yeah this is COOL
  12. RIP Darill. Karu
  13. <3 "Searching for Friends" <3 - Henryacores^ 00:10, February 26, 2010 (UTC)



Anonymous Votes

  1. I don'tknow why, but I just like the Falcon better.
  2. It is the better ship.
  3. FF6 Fanboy- Falcon Pwns noobs
  4. I don't know which one is better, but Falcon had less votes, so I voted here

Votes for the Blackjack

  1. Yeah, the Blackjack rules, if not just because of the gambling. ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig323:40, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
  2. The Blackjack was cooler for a multitude of reasons. The sprite looked better IMO, and so did the interior. Plus it had the little dudes inside who healed your team for free and sold you stuff. Der Falke hat keine solche Dudes. Ich liebe die Blackjack! The Cheez 23:52, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Looks like my vote goes to the Blackjack. While the Falcon was cool and all, the Blackjack was a friggin flying casino. Plus it has shopping and free healing. What more could an adventurer ask for? My only gripe about the Blackjack was that you couldn't actually gamble at any of the tables. Kind of defeated the purpose. TheBlueDragoon 00:07, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  4. This airship is one of the best with one of the best themes and the awesomest pilot.Bjarnster Blackmage-ff1-psx 00:23, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  5. The Blackjack looks cooler! Cluna 06 01:11, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  6. I'm going to pick this one, everybody else is.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 02:31, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  7. When you have to take a long trip to a destination, why not shop or go to the casino? P.S. this has nothing on The Strahl. Judge Balthier 02:34, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  8. BlueHighwind ツ: Gotta go with the cool one, this is choice is easy.
  9. Yes, the choice is easy. This one doesn't teleport you outside so you can't de-equip your characters after changing parties, has free healing and a shop. Discordius 02:45, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  10. I like free healingSunpanda2012 02:52, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  11. I'm voting for the ship's amenities. --ClixPsi 02:53, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  12. Dudes who sell you stuff and heal you. Blackjack rules. The Terran Storm
  13. Casino, free inn, and sweet music, what more can you ask for? 15px-358_icon.png 死の騎士 15px-358_icon.png04:20, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  14. Because Searching for Friends doesn't play while I'm piloting it. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 05:23, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  15. The Falcon is sooo phallic Vanity
  16. Kuzlalala 06:55, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  17. Vampyro entertaiment 08:11, February 20, 2010 (UTC) I'm voting on the blackjack because maybe this way they'll forgive my debt in there.
  18. JasarDaConqueror 08:20, February 20, 2010 (UTC) Easiest choice yet.
  19. The Blackjack is awesome, Falcon isn't. Uppfinnarn 09:40, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  20. I prefer the Blackjack to the Falcon Goo Rayder 09:52, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  21. I like the appearance of the Blackjack better. The Falcon would have won, but "Searching for Friends" becomes the overworld theme and is thus not exclusive to the airship. Silver Dragon XXVIII 12:01, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  22. Gabi131: Blakcjack is way cooler....wish we could use the casino to make more Gil lolll
  23. Blackjack has a casino on board :) C-Man93 15:32, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  24. I LOVE the Blackjack. One of the best things about FF6. Legend of Fantasy 17:51, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  25. The Falcon is one of the ugliest airships Square has ever designed. Xaphnir 18:12, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  26. Agreed with Xaphnir. The Falcon is really, really ugly. Sorry, Falcon, Blackjack has got you beat. I'm disappointed that I won't be able to fly the Blackjack anymore. Mizuno Mahou 18:16, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  27. The Blackjack had a shop. And when I got the Falcon, I was very disappointed with how there was no casino for me anymore. xP JohnnyC 18:24, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  28. I miss the Blackjack's theme when the World of Balance goes poof. Searching for Friends is played as the overworld theme instead of Terra's theme anyway - wow, way to ruin the ambiance, WoR. >.> 8bit 19:12, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
  29. CardboardBoxMan 05:13, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
  30. The Falcon is pretty cool, but the Blackjack has more features (FREE HEALING)... I was a little dissapointed when getting the Falcon... Well that being said, when the Falcon crashed, why would anyone be on there still anyway? Sleepy phoenix 09:24, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
  31. Let's see; it has actual "Airship Music", it has a casino, it has vendors and the ability to heal, it looks cooler, and it's owned by Setzer. I do not believe this airship has a drawback. - File:FFIII-nes-sage.gif Saethori (T / C) - 12:34, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
  32. It's not my favorite, but I still like the sleek look of the Blackjack over the stubby luck of the Falcon. Noobking87
  33. Hytey 16:42, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
  34. FF74EVA! 19:41, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
  35. Blackjack all day
  36. First, it looks better, and second, healing and a shop. I still like the Highwind better, though: it's armed. The.DreadnoughT 21:25, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
  37. While the Falcon does get some props for having greater storyline significance, it's difficult to argue with the free healing and general comfort of the original. Swmystery 12:17, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
  38. Its got the most awesome name ever Kisswithatear 15:25, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
  39. This fight is like asking if you'd rather have a bow or an arrow; completely pointless. You could've at least made it between two airships from different games. Like the Falcons of IV and VI, that would have been pretty cool. Nokareon
  40. :D --JFHavoc 17:26, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
  41. BlitzingBuizel: The Blackjack is cooler and has free healing.
  42. my vote goes to good ol Blackjack. Oran_Geomancer
  43. Free healing is just awesome White Mage From Hell
  44. Honestly, I'm just voting for the Blackjack because it looks cooler. Updraft Reiza
  45. I was tempted to give Falcon a pity vote, but what's the point? You have to respect a ship that can fly through the air while acting as a casino, though I'm not a gambler myself.CodeNameRedXIII 16:35, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
  46. Gotta go with the Blackjack, one of the best looking airships in the series. Tetra Flare 08:40, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
  47. I don't like Gambling, but the Free Healing and the Item Shops make this ship more lovable. PictomancerWill 7:12 PM, Feburary 27,2010 (UTC)
  48. wooh!Slencia 16:01, March 1, 2010 (UTC) Slencia
  49. The Blackjack looks cooler and has a casino inside it, along with the guys who sell you stuff and heal your team for free. I still say there should of been SOME sort of casino games in there which one could actually play. Particularly blackjack (No, not for the pun, I happen to be pretty damn good at blackjack when playing a fair game.) Exdeath64 19:41, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
  50. An airship that not only looks cool, but allows you to heal and shop on it too! Off the chain.TheHighwindBishop 9:14, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
  51. WIN. --Silver Mage Ω 10:12, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. Look...the Black Jack has a casino in it, which should already be enough to make it better. Then add to that the fact that it looks awesome. 206.248.112.231 03:46, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Yeaaaah, I just plain like this one better, and I don't even have any reasoning.98.70.73.53 01:41, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery

Can we call this fight? Its been going on for a couple weeks now. Oerba Yun Fang's Husband00:28, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hm. This appears to be a landslide, if the votes from the first day are any indication. ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig306:51, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

They're...basically the same...I can't help but being a little disappointed. Ah well, guess I should make a decision, regardless. The Blackjack was basically a flying casino which, while cool, didn't make any freakin' sense in context. The Falcon made more sense & was hinted at being a superior flying craft, but that also made it sort of a traditional airship, so it wasn't as special. Surprisingly tough call.Neo Bahamut 23:52, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree in that functionally they're pretty much the same, but they each have their differences and serve different purposes in the story. The point is, this is more of a "which do you think is cooler" kind of thing. The Cheez 00:20, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
I suppose, but the extent to which they're the same is just ridiculous. For example, I don't understand everyone who says that the Blackjack looks cooler. They have the same model, except that the Blackjack has a duckbill on the end & an ugly scheme. Also, I haven't played in a while, but I'm not so sure you can't get healing on the Falcon.Neo Bahamut 22:20, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
I chose these two airships because ships like the Highwind are more popular. I did it as a throwback to the old school airships. The actually have storyline significance, unlike some airships (ie, Hilda Garde III) TheBlueDragoon 00:41, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
Hey man, no objections here. I'm a huge FFVI fan, so you're preaching to the choir. It was actually kind of a tough choice for me. I love the Blackjack, but how can one not respect the Falcon? I mean, there's more of a story behind it, and you literally can't finish the game without it. I had to consider that when voting. The Cheez 00:55, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
I love FFVI. With the impending release of FFXIII, I just thought it might be nice to do a fight involving an older game. I love the Falcon, I just like the overall design of the Blackjack more. TheBlueDragoon 01:08, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, my fight finally made it into the DNC. Thanks TA. Now to decide who to vote for. TheBlueDragoon 00:05, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

You know the home page still says Leviathan vs. Phoenix--DarkTriforce 02:32, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, I changed it. then Jeppo fixed the format. ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3 04:55, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

And, the Leviathan/Phoenix match is still undecided. Judge Balthier 02:36, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe TA got busy? I dunno how to change it. TheBlueDragoon 02:43, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Most lopsided fight since Gilgamesh VS Ultros. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 07:48, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Looks like I suggested a landslide. TheBlueDragoon 16:47, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
Nah. You suggested a good fight. Landslides happen. It's a fact of nature.CodeNameRedXIII 16:32, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
I thought Falcon would have supa won blackjack, but it seems that people actually liked that unusable casino. And in that gilgamesh vs ultros fight, I made the same mistake. Seems like Iäm always voting the loser, no idea why though. Johuotar 14:51, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
Personally, I blame people for being overly predictable. Even I acknowledge that the Blackjack was a fairly unique idea, but we're likely gonna be stuck with at least 2 weeks of this. Need we have made it a boring landslide right off the bat & kept going with that?Neo Bahamut 02:37, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
Well, it was my idea, so I take the blame for the landslide. I thought it would be a good fight. Hopefully the fight changes soon. TheBlueDragoon 19:11, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
...To Genesis vs. Kuja.Neo Bahamut 03:14, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, let's do Genesis vs Kuja next if only for the fact that Neo may have an aneurysm if he has to request his fight in the peanut gallery one more time. ;)CodeNameRedXIII 16:32, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
Damn straight. I assume all responsibility on the off-chance that the fight turns out to blow. Fortunately for me, "responsibility" just means "getting bitched at." But, seriously, I think it'll be a good one. Both Kuja & Genesis have a significant number of fans, they are similar, Genesis hasn't been in the DNC yet, & it had a decent amount of support at the outset.Neo Bahamut 20:37, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
Here's to hoping Kuja versus GEnesis is next. Neo isn't the only one dying to see that fight. I've wanted to see it for a while too. TheBlueDragoon 17:44, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

How long has this fight been going on? I'm still very much interested as to who won the Leviathan/Phoenix battle. Judge Balthier Griever Emblem 03:17, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

It's looking like Phoenix. Speaking of, I had no idea that Leviathan was a Keyblade in 358/2 Days.Neo Bahamut 04:37, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

I am not going to say anything... As much as I like Blackjack, I don't want to make Falcon lose by even wider margin. Aquamarine39 21:53, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Got an idea - I change the fight and set off TA's DNC-senses, so he comes and changes it right and proper. ^_^ Doreiku Kuroofangu 03:20, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

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