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Uwee hee hee hee! Welcome, editors to the Dragon's Neck Colosseum! My name is Ultros the receptionist, and each week I'm taking bets as to who will win in a tussle between two characters from the Final Fantasy series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll, really, the Colosseum owner stuck me on this duty after Kefka was defeated but I need the money! So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

The Rules, Briefly

Functionally this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that week. You may vote only once. If you are a user, please include your vote in the user . If you are not a user, please include your vote in the anonymous section. It is important to do this because votes carry different weight and votes left in the wrong section may be deleted. When a new fight is created, generally once per week, the votes will be totaled and winner decided. Ties may be called if the voting is within 10% of each other.

Week 67: Zack v. Oh, wait, I'm not Zack

Cloudhalfadvent
Winner!!
undecided
In honor of the release of Crisis Core, we honor the game by asking this important question; who has more fun in SOLDIER? Blondes or Brunettes? A better question might be, which of these 2x4 toting heroes should Aeris be dating?

Votes for Cloud

  1. ChiefKakashi: Because that's the coolest picture of Cloud EVER.
  2. BlueHighwind: This is more about what game he is the star of and who he hangs out with than who Cloud is. Also the Ultima Weapon with Omnislash is kickass.

Anonymous votes

Votes for Zack

  1. Zack equals NOT AN EMU POSER BITCH. Plus zack is roxxor to the max.--Superaeon35 20:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. Zack has honor and dreams. Cloud has Zack's dreams. That's how it is. And Aerith should be with her real love, you know, the one who she sent 89 letters in 4 years having no reply. - Henryacores
  3. Adam mcduck: Cloud never was that great &, though I haven't played Crisis Core, Zack's story seems to hold more depth & heroism; Cloud's is partially based on Zack's anyway for a little while.
  4. Chocobo Knight: Yeah, he just seems like a nice guy, preferable (I'm sorry if I've spelt that wrong) to Cloud.

Anonymous votes

Zack is such a beast. He can own anyone!

Peanut Gallery

Who's been titleing these last few fights? Only I think it's all getting just a little stilted.

I have, and you're welcome. Also, titling is spelled without an e. --TacticAngel 20:16, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I feel kinda sorry for Cloud. Though stealing Zack's memories was bad, he did feel sorry for it after he remembered what really happened. Then he had to rebuild himself. He deserved it, but... --ChiefKakashi 20:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I used to feel sorry for Cloud. Ten years ago when it was just FFVII, the guy had been delt a bad hand. But when he was still in broody whiney form in Advent Children (EVEN THOUGH THAT SHIT HAD BEEN SOLVED WITH TIFA IN THE LIFESTREAM!! DOESN'T ANYBODY AT SQUARE GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN FFVII ANY MORE!!!) he lost all respect from me. --BlueHighwind 20:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not voting in this one because I haven't played Crisis Core yet and thus can't make a decision on Zack or Cloud outside of the expressionless text boxes of FFVII. All I can say is I hope that this will be another good fight. May the best man win. --Tex 20:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Week 66: Auron v. Balthier

Winner!!
Auron
40 to 31
I'm not sure what the motivation about this is aside from the two most unreasonably popular male characters in the FFWiki, one might even say over-rated. In any case, here they are, your favorites. Who dies?

Votes for Auron

  1. NickCaligo42: I just have to go with Auron. He represents a time when Final Fantasy was slightly more tasteful than what it's become; a time when it was the pinnacle of modern gaming, respected amongst fans and critics alike. Today, largely in thanks to Balthier and the game he's a part of--though I won't count out Crisis Core and Kingdom Hearts--all they see is a shallow game full of androgynous juvenile male leads designed solely to please fangirls. Don't get me wrong, if I had to choose someone from FFXII that I'd say I liked it'd be Balthier, hands down, and were he fighting Tidus I'd be voting differently, but Auron wins this one. He's a stronger character from a stronger game with a stronger story. Plus he has Triple Overdrive and Break Damage Limit going for him, and since he doesn't need to blow all his MP to do his ultimate attacks Balthier would genuinely be screwed the second he used one of those lame quickenings.
  2. Adam mcduck: Auron's the badass, Balthier's the leading man... Badasses are more fun so Auron wins, though I won't mind if Balthier wins.
  3. Omega MK 54: Auron has some of the best lines in FFX, and his mysterious nature makes him even better
  4. Jammi568: Auron, because he can be middle aged, and be cool
  5. Blykus 08:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  6. Henryacores: Auron is epic.
  7. Dark raven: That's obvious.
  8. Lockhart: Although Balthier is awesome, he can not compare to all that is Auron. Auron may very well be the best character in the series.
  9. Actiondan: Balthier has the lines, but Auron has everything else =].
  10. Tex: I'm one of the few who doesn't use Balthier much in FFXII, but Auron in FFX is in the fight most of the time. Plus Tornado > Element of Treachery IMO. Plus, I like Auron's Theme and his cool and calm mannerisms...Auron, hands down.
  11. OtO: Balthier is a disgrace to Final Fantasy. A total and complete ripoff of other good characters in media, but it utterly failed. He's weak, horribly designed, and has bad lines. He's all talk and not enough action.
  12. NOOOOO!!! I refuse to let Auron lose to this overconfident bastard! Go auron!--Superaeon35 20:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  13. Bartz235: Pretty much what superaeon said. Auron is epic, powerful, and wise. Balthier is overconfident, snobby, and his reputation to Auron is nothing. Everyone in Spira knows Auron, while Balthier is a pirate noob who got lucky that he ended up with an amazing kick-ass viera to do the fighting and piloting for him.
  14. Chocolancer: Auron is the badass of badass, period...(leading man...pssshhh!)
  15. Sora_Rainstorm: "Now! This is it! Now is the time to chose! Die and be free of pain; or live and fight your sorrow!! Now is the time to shape your story, YOUR FATE IS IN YOUR HANDS!!!" Auron aall the waay for me baby! Not only is he the best character in FFX (or in history of all characters); he's cool, he's wise, he's strong, he's sexy, he's mysterious. I don't give a damn if he's middle aged; he still looking pretty good for an unsent! Balthier stands no chance against Auron's HUGE kantana! If Auron can still keep his cool when hearing all of Tidus' whinning, he can win with no sweat. You can't loose, Auron! BEAT HIS ASS!!
  16. TheSwordofDoubt: 我真的要说吗?
  17. Dr. mcfishers: I'd have to go for Auron. Auron's an awesome badass shadow-of-glory hero and Balthier hides behind Fran.
  18. AK-47: How in the name of Lock, Stock and two weed-smoking scottish pipers is this even a fight? Balthier is as good a character as anything Lindsay Lohan's every played in any movie ever. Guys who voted for Balthier, you can officially go buy yourself little hats with the word "retard" on them right now. And give them to BlueHighwind!
  19. Mjka: Don't get me wrong, I like Balthier, [being that sexy should be illegal], but there's no way in all the Farplane that the wandering unsent ronin can lose to the metrosexual sky pirate. No way. Especially since technically he can't die again. GO AURON! USE YOUR BUSHIDO TO KICK HIS SEXY ASS!
  20. Dancing Daggers: No doubt; Auron is by far the coolest character out there. Not necessarily my favorite, but certainly the coolest. Auron is the badass who crawled from Zanarkand over a f*cking mountain and all the way to Bevelle before eventually snuffing it, and then STILL refusing to go to the afterlife. That makes him even more of a badass monster then Vincent Valentine in my opinion. In contrast Balthier is just up himself.
  21. Arausio:This battle has already been decided as has everything in life kick his ass Auron
  22. Defunctzombie: Auron, hands down. May not look the best, but anyone who attacks with his wine is best in my book.
  23. Falbub: Very tough choice, but I'm voting for Auron here. Auron is kickass, and he had to put up with Tidus. TIDUS. This pretty much means he has the patience of a saint.
  24. Kenjutsukata1o1: Auron is a classic character, and as Final Fantasy X was the very first Final Fantasy I ever played, he was one of the first characters I was introduced to- and to this day he remains one of my favourite characters of the series (and the only character I've ever cosplayed as!). He's dedicated, strong, loyal, and has all the awesome samurai type characteristics for added awesomeness. Balthier's just... blah. I'll admit, at first he amused me, but he got old really quick. I'm sorry, the characters in Final Fantasy XII just don't get very good development, and even if they did, Auron would clean house with any of them. Go Auron!
  25. RaggleFraggleVoteyBoaty AzureDrake 03:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
  26. Hydronisa It's AURON, DAMMIT!! He BLEEDS Testosterone! FIGHT OVER!!!
  27. Blackheart191: He actually has a F&@%$ing pair.....
  28. Skoot85 He is crippled and still OWNS
  29. Terra_Homing: Auron's just badass. I don't really like balthier, shocking but true.
  30. Varehemsko: Auron simply outweighs Balthier in so many respects. Men like Balthier you follow because they are leaders. Men like Auron you fear and respect, because he talks with his actions, and his actions HURT. Also Bushido works better for me than Fires of War/Tides of Fate/Element of Treachery
  31. Leiber Mage: While surprising to know that Balthier is son to FFXII's Cid and has a very coo attitude, the fact of the matter is Auron can kick ass more than anyone else, and has more character development than he does. Plus, Auron has put up with Tidus who is, I'd say a little more childish than Vaan (but just a little)
  32. RedMage I like swords.
  33. Kami strife 17:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Auron gets my vote simply because he is Auron. Someone with his level of badass-ness doesn't need anything more.

Anonymous votes

  1. no comment, why not have sed(lost odyssey) vs cid
  2. OMG!! This would be a very good one, I think Auron is the best ffx character and i don´t like Balthier so i gotta go with Auron. Balthier may be the leading man but Auron IS THE MAN!!-- SaBin TOny
  3. Balthier is awesome, but not even the leading man can beat the legendary undead gaurdian of FFX.
  4. got to go with Auron on this one
  5. If Auron needed a wallet to keep money in, the likelyhood is that it would have on the front the words 'Bad Ass M***** F*****'. The only character in the whole of ff IMO who looks like he can actually pull off swinging a supermassive sword; most look unable to even pick it up. He does it dead, age of death over 40 -and with sunglasses on. Noone else in ff10 seems to wear sunglasses; its like he was so cool -he invented em in Spira. Balthier wouldn't stand a chance.
  6. Auron would TOTALLY win this one. he would also win it as an UNSENT BADASS.
  7. I'm rather fond of both of them, actually, but I'm of the opinion that it's hard to defeat someone who's already dead. I'm putting my money on Auron.
  8. Auron is da maaan! Auron could kick Balthier's ass any day!
  9. How can you make me choose? I love both of them so much. The battle would probably depend on luck. With Auron's kick-ass sword he could probably beat Balthier without breaking a sweat. BUT (let's assume Balthier's using his default weapon[gun]) if Balthier can get a good position and move fast enough, Auron may not be able to catch up with him before he is defeated. So... since liked Auron first and longer I shall vote for him. Cold, loyal wise guy beats cool, smart mouth pirate.
  10. GO Auron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he's way cooler!
  11. Big Sword.
  12. Auron...Mifune...legend...
  13. Yumiko: Auron is cool. Plus he is in the last FF before enix (which totally screwed up FF)came along. So go Auron
  14. Oh, tear my heart out with this vote, why dontcha? I love them both so much, with their (no doubt confusing to less genre-savvy characters) commentary on stories and leading roles... I'll give this one to Auron though. At least Balthier has his health. :P

Votes for Balthier

  1. Rydiaofmist: Although Auron was a great character, I still prefer Balthier. He was fun, entertaining, and witty, not to mention damn sexy.
  2. BlueHighwind: He is one of the best characters in FFXII, however its in FFT where he really shines. In a game filled with super-powered people like Agrias, Delita, and the Thunder God, Balthier was the most powerful. Can't really top that. And he's a part of the superior game by far.
  3. AnonyMan: Balthier of course being massively popular,(well by FFXII standards) isn't that bad of a characters, he's pretty entertaining, Auron not so much. He's not that cool to begin with, but since everyone just swoons over this guy it's just even more annoying, still he's probably like the only other Main FFX character who's even borederline bearable.
  4. Crazyswordsman: Call me old fashioned but I prefer voting for someone who isn't drunk.
  5. ChiefKakashi: He's currnetly losing. Go Balthier!
  6. Big mamou: Auron's is a great character, but Balthier is better.
  7. Mymindislost: Are you fucking kidding me? Of COURSE I'm voting for Balthier!
  8. I do not know about XII, but aside from my Onion Knight, Balthier was my favorite character to play as in Tactics.--Oranejo 19:26, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  9. While I may be into older men, I'm going to have to vote for Balthier. The only way I would vote against Balthier is if he were against Vivi, Sabin, Minwu and possibly some other characters. That, and Balthier is hotter than Auron by a long shot. So much hotter... --Alcaeus
  10. Pablo618: He has some sweet-ass lines
  11. Hexed
  12. Aramis: Do I really have to give an explanation every time I vote? I just like Balthier more.
  13. I've decided...although i think Auron is the coolest, but Balthier is the one who charmed me. --VN
  14. Cactuar38:Balthier is an ARCHADIAN! All Auron is is a NON ARCHADIAN. So he can use swords, pfeh, Balthier can use guns spears, hand-bombs, swords, bows, and guns. Guns beat swords in this case but Lightsaber beats Darth Vader. Baltier rox.
  15. SCM: He's better than Auron, and the Leading Man.
  16. Aleria:He's just awesome.
  17. Maverick King:Are you fucking shitting me? Auron sucks. His quotes suck, and if they were ever used in real life, the person would get laughed at. I laughed my ass off when Auron said his bat fuck insane "Now is the time to choose" pep talk. Kimahri is far supeior and easily trumps that grimpy bastard of a samurai. Arrogant bastards beat self proclaimed "badasses". Guns always beat swords fanboys and if you think I'm wrong I will fight you. That's no lie.
  18. Zephyrus11:Balthier is the leading man.
  19. Pikmin Master: There is only one reason why Balthier is my choice. No, it's not that he's freaking awesome. No, it's not that he's "in the better games". No, it's not that he's the self-proclaimed leading man. It's solely because of his versatility. In XII, he can do and equip pretty much anything. In Tactics, he can change jobs, and have the sub-job abilities from FFV, too. I'm quite disappointed in Balthier's restriction in RW. Sure, Auron CAN technically use White Magic, but not only it's useless for him, but it takes a long while before he can learn them all. Like Alcaeus said, Minwu can beat Balthier.
  20. Triforcel: Yeah. I'm going with the one I like better.
  21. I pick balthier cause I used him more, and was better. CoD
  22. HiddenWings The leading man, indeed.
  23. Nashblade: FFX vs FFXII The Battle: Auron struggles to connect with his Masamune, while Balthier chips away with his Fomalhaut. With his Power Break and Armor Break useless, hope is running out for Auron. Balthier uses his Quickening and Auron barely survives. However, with a full overdrive gauge, he uses Banishing Blade and Balthier is now in critical status as well. Next attack wins...and Balthier gets the win! Note: FFT would be quite different. It would be the longest battle of all time while Balthier uses Arm Shot and Leg Shot, as well as Barrage (assuming that Seal Evil wouldn't be an instant win), but with a max of 748 damage with the Fomalhaut per Barrage (Auron has no Faith, so no Blaster), Auron waits patiently and eventually gets one lucky hit and kills him.
  24. Yuan Come on, just 9 more votes...
  25. ZodiarkMKXII: Balthier's Element of Treachery is one of my favorite moves, so my vote goes for Balthier.
  26. TacticAngel: Believe it or not, I actually like Balthier.

Anonymous votes

  1. I'm gonna vote for the leading man!
  2. Auron may be cool, but I'm gonna have to vote for the sexy leading man that has his own sweet airship.
  3. He has his own airship, is a pirate (and all pirates rule), and he isn't a ghost/dream or whatever Auron was.
  4. Tough choice...They're both extremely wise about their worlds (Auron in Spira and Balthier in Ivalice, of course) and they both have painful pasts. But I'll go with the smooth-talking gunslinging sky pirate we all love. Plus I got to play him more! (FFXII and FFXII:RW; looking forward to FFT)
  5. My vote is definitely for the sexy leading man who is the star of FFXII
  6. Agurably the two best characters ever i gotta give this one to Balthier if only because i seem to recall Auron having difficulty hitting anything that moves quickly.(i don't even think it really neccessary to point out the more accesible nature of mist charges or the fact that Balthier could summon)
  7. He's dashing, sexy and badass. So there. And I agree with the person who said Auron has a hard time hitting things that move fast.
  8. Such a tough decision. I adore both games and both characters. But since I adore pirates, I'll go with the sky pirate!
  9. The leading man never dies!!
  10. exdeath64- he totes guns, has a airship, and has a viera following him around for no apparent reason, need i say more?

Peanut Gallery

I don't think you could get the two of them to fight. They'd start talking in metafiction, then team up and go around confusing and/or annoying the hell out of people with fourth wall-less comments. Gotta love 'em. ...why yes, I am anonymous Auron voter number 14, how did you guess?

Another tough choice! I like them both DX. Auron's like the coolest ronin, and Balthier's freakin charming. Both are the greatest supporting characters (yes, i take Balthier as a supporting character despite his 'leading man' demeanor :3 ). --VulpineNinja 24 April 2008

Jammi568: @ whoever wrote that description. Last time i checked Cloud and Sephiroth were both massivly overrated on this Wiki.

Cloud? No. Sephiroth? Hell, yes! But not as much as those two -- YuanchosaanSalutations! 08:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Hell no! FFVII Fanboys are massively bashed on this wiki! Henryacores
...And Balthier is the avatar of gods where almost everyone worshiped. -- Nelo 09:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

LOL somebody said Auron is middle age? I thought he's like 30 something. Vincent is middle aged... --VulpineNinja 24 April 2008

No way. Auron is at least in his late forties. I always thought him to be around fifty. --BlueHighwind 12:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Yay! My suggestion! --ChiefKakashi 17:01, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Funny, that's how I always saw Vaan, Oath. Are you sure you got your character's straight? --BlueHighwind 19:50, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it, because Vaan didn't rip off a good character. He ripped off bad ones, like Tidus. --Crazyswordsman 22:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
In RW (and RW only), Balthier sucks. Bad. --ChiefKakashi 23:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Well since Revenant Wings itself sucked, it could not be helped. Really what could Balthier do in a half-hearted attempt at an RTS? What could anyone do with a game that actually had an idiot like Vaan as the central character? (Don't give me that shit about him being the lead in FFXII, he had like six lines and no purpose). Anybody who says Balthier is weak better play War of the Lions. I'd like to see them fucking talk then. --BlueHighwind 00:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Orlandu could kill him... but thats about it. Orlandu is rediculous though. --TacticAngel 02:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I have noticed a trend, so I will emphasize this point: you must be logged in to vote as a user. Otherwise you're an imposter, as far as I can tell. --TacticAngel 06:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

TA, best intro ever! -- Nelo 08:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

OMG! I have just read it! It's so hilarious! Pablo618

Wow. Who knew that this would be a landslide victory for Auron? --Alcaeus

...Dammit. Well, it sounded good at least. --ChiefKakashi 02:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

MK, I accept your challenge. We will meet a dawn. I'll fight with a claymore and you can run around with a 15th century pistol with a jamming problem. --BlueHighwind 12:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, Balthier's slowly catching up. If this trend continues, maybe we'll see the greatest comeback in DNC history? --ChiefKakashi 22:57, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

This is gettin' good--TheSwordofDoubt 12:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Right now as of the time I post this comment, Auron is ahead of Balthier 35 1/2 votes to 27 1/2 votes. It will be interesting to see who emerges as the victor in this bout between two of the FFWiki's most popular FF characters. Will the powerful ronin make the leading man's pain be twofold or will the crafty sky pirate shoot the unsent one down to the Farplane? Time will tell... --Tex 19:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually Vivi would kick both of their asses. --BlueHighwind 19:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Cloudofdarkness Have you noticed that almost all anons sound alike. When voting for Balthier, almost all say "Leading man", and those who vote for Auron say he's an unsent badass. Pretty repetitive.

Well? It's true for both of them, and lots of people like them for the same reasons. User:RedMage

Week 65: Cid Highwind v. Cidolfus Demen Bunansa

Winner!!
Cid Highwind
38½ v. 34
Cid Highwind, one of the great dragoons in the Final Fantasy franchise, the only Cid that wasn't ignored entirely that did not make it into Magicite Madness Cid Bracket, faces off versus the winner of the Cid Bracket, the mad scientist Cidolfus Demen Bunansa.

Votes for the Dragoon

  1. Shyny: Unlike Dr. Cid, he was always with you and that left enough space for his character to evolve. In FF XII, you can encounter Dr. Cid face to face i think only twice and then few cutscenes with him, but that's all. Sure he is interesting but that is not enough to beat Cid Highwind.
  2. Rydiaofmist: He's the quintessential Final Fantasy Cid to me.
  3. ChiefKakashi: "Sit your ass down and drink your goddamn TEA!!!"
  4. AnonyMan: I'm not a big C. Highwind fan, but he's pretty funny and one of the only good Main Characters in VII. When he was the lead in Cloud's absence it was the best part of the game. As far as his status as a Cid goes he's probably....third best, with Cid Pollendina and Cid Fabool IX 2nd and 1st respectively.
  5. JARIITX: I'll take the Highwind over nethicite any day.
  6. I think they're both great but Cid being an ally is better than Cid as a foe. Adam mcduck
  7. Xadren: C'mon! He's nearly the greatest character in a FF game! There is no Cid better than him! Also, he is a dreamer and the first Cid into the Outer Space!
  8. What CK said AzureDrake 21:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  9. Cid Highwind is the man. He stepped up for me when Yuffie stole my materia.--Oranejo 00:17, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  10. Chocolancer: Nobody says NO to Cid Highwind! He's my favorite Cid of all! He swears, smokes, uses a spear, and is hilarious!
  11. gokus789: This Cid simply because he made my favorite airship the Highwind.
  12. Yuan: He's my favourite Cid
  13. Lockhart: Dr. Cid is not too bad, but come on, is this even a contest. Cid Highwind is by far the best Cid. Don't hate.
  14. Varehemsko: I never did get on well with C. Bunansa, and the character was developed too much in the third person. C. Highwind gets my vote, if only for my memory of being told how profusely he swore on the Sister Ray. Good times :) Also what CK and AD said.
  15. Chocobo Knight: Meh, they're both alright. Cid is a Dragoon (false Dragoon or not, he has a spear), he is a Highwind, he has that funny quote, and you know, he could have just launched his spaceship meaning his assistant would have died but he didn't. He was angry at her sure but he still stopped the launch and threw away his dream to make sure she didn't die. Pretty nice. Dr. Cid was alright and an original idea (a Cid being a villain) but still, he was just plain crazy!
  16. Pikmin Master: This Cid can equip a mop for a weapon.
  17. Mateus_the_Corrupt:Dr. Cid is being a total crap, though I didn't know him alot. Cid Highwind is only sort of Cid I know. Aside from Kain, Freya, Kimahri and Llyud, Cid was the popular and notable Dragoon everyone could know.
  18. Sora G. Strife: Cid Highwind just rocks, as he did get a swearword past the censors.
  19. SuperBossOMEGA: One vote for the one who isn't crazy
  20. Etch: Cid's the man what can u say
  21. GimliSam: Easily my favorite Cid of the series, not to mention the fact that he has the coolest airship. Ever.
  22. RedMage: I just like Cid(this one)'s character a lot more. Also, he has cool airship, and featured in FF:AC, which is great despite everything anyone else says about it.
  23. Sora_Rainstorm: I'd go for Cid Highwind, mainly because he is my most favorite Cid out of all the series. He also cusses a lot and that's always cool. Anyone who dreams of going into outer space and has the name Highwind has to be the coolest. Besides, it's kinda hard to imagine an evil Cid in the series. It's a little bizzare.
  24. Ifrit: I had no idea how to decide so I figured it would be fun to tie up the competition =).
  25. Drake:I'll vote for the character that doesn't suck.
  26. PhoenixDew I gotta go with Cid Highwind, cause I loves me a good spear, while Dr. Cid uses weird gun things... plus I just like player characters better in general.
  27. Slayerette: Doctor Cid has a cool voice actor but that's pretty much it. Cid Highwind is awesome.
  28. Triforcel: Both Cids are pretty awesome, but I find this Cid just a little bit better.
  29. tomtheroadkill: It's a difficult choice this one. I liked Dr.Cid as he has been the only evil Cid so far. But Cid Highwind is my choice as he is a crude, rude, killing machine!
  30. Terra_Homing: Oh come on! No choice at all...
  31. Falbub: These are my two favorite Cids of all time, but Highwing takes the lead by far. He's just awesome like that.
  32. Prudence Moon: Seriously, the best Cid there is, hands down. The rest are lame by comparison.
  33. TacticAngel 05:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC): Always liked Cid Highwind. I was never too impressed with Dr. Cid though. Seemed a little too metro for me.

Anonymous votes

  1. The most badass is the one who has a worse mouth.
  2. Hes not as good as T.G. Cid, but Cid Highwind;s Limit alone will destroy the other Cid.
  3. Rainacide - I will have to go with Cid Highwind, why becuhs he's my all favorite character from FFVII & I use him even more than Cloud, he was a beast as a leader when Cloud was gone. He has pretty brutal Limit Breaks & he's just an all bad ass. Cid from XII ain't so bad either but...Cid Highwind is just...an all natural bad ass.
  4. Cid Highwing is the BEST
  5. Cursing Cid rocks!!!!! XD
  6. He may be on the rude side, but I have to go with Cid Highwind as being better, if for nothing more than he's a scruffy, blond guy who dreams of space. Though it's not in the game, I love it in Advent Children when, in response to Barret telling him to park the airship, Cid says, "If you want off, then jump."
  7. One of the Greatest Cid's around!
  8. Mr. Highwind, because he's a Highwind & obviously the most BADASS Cid around ;]
  9. go FFVII !!! :-)
  10. why are people suckers for the person who helped make balthier wow he's a james bon rip off get over it, now highwind hes were the moneys at
  11. Cid Highwind is one of my favorite characters in anything, ever. Dr. Cid is a pansy, and not in a good way.

Votes for the Doctor

  1. Henryacores: "History back on men's hands"...Cid Demen Bunansa is probably the best Cid on Final Fantasy
  2. Blykus 19:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  3. BlueHighwind: Well this is indeed a tough one. Dragoon vs. Mad Scientist. Cursing Wife Beater vs. Lunatic with a God Complex. I empathize with them both. However, this Cid wins only because Cid Highwind cannot perform Jump at will (meaning he's a false Dragoon), and because Dr. Cid is just the better character.
  4. It was decided in the Magicite Madness. Doctor Cid is the best Cid ever. Dark raven
  5. Pablo618
  6. Mymindislost: Gots to go for the Doctor.
  7. He made Balthier. Hexed
  8. Damn this is a hard one. Cid with the less votes gets mine. WeissTheImmaculate 22:56, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  9. Crazyswordsman: It was decided in Magicite Madness.
  10. UndyingvsSephiroth: I would say this Cid, the other one looks cooler, but this Cid is a godly lunatic plus the father of Balthier.
  11. Aleria:Hated him. But because of that, he's such an awesome villain. He pulls off the insane genius perfectly.
  12. Ruler of Oblivion: Villain Cid. I like The Dragoon best, but this Cid all the way.
  13. SCM:Watch FFXII in a Nutshell. That's why.
  14. He's simply cooler. Elcan
  15. I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts. Dum-dum-dum MK
  16. He has a gatling gun and an army of killer robots, nuff' said Blackheart1991 11:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  17. JZ He made Balthier, and Balthier rocks. Not as much as Yuna though. ;)
  18. User:dudutsai: This Cid was cooler by a ton. I dislike Cid Highwind. Shocking, but true.
  19. MeggiedONFF3 This Cid had evil mad scientist, wacky laughter, and graceful exits down to a tee. A refreshing take on Cid. So he gets my vote.
  20. Alcaeus: Seriously, the constant swearing got on my nerves. That's the main reason Mr. Highwind and Barret were never in my party.
  21. Darkling692: Having a god for an ally and a brain that copies the items that give godly power is something to fear if you only have a spear and a airship in your arsenal, my vote goes for the second best Cid ever.
  22. SacredMist: I would definitely go with Dr. Cid. The other Cid is a bit too...crude for my tastes.
  23. Aramis: Machine guns beat spears all the time.
  24. Acropolis: Crazy people are funny.
  25. Ctaylor503: Dr. Evil, I mean evil Dr. Cid rules! S-85 Cyclotrone, baby! Yeah!
  26. Mjka: Crazy people get all the fun. Especially since said crazy person has a giant cannon. Good people get all the pressure. And I love the threads and weapons. Gotta give respect to the man that can make the Manufacted Nethicite.
  27. 8bit_BlackMage: I vote for the one who can summon Rooks and has a bazooka.
  28. Because the fanboys will vote for the Dragoon later on. -- Nelo 03:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous votes

  1. Definitely Dr. Cid is the superior Cid. He is intelligently hilarious and has a highly idealistic and unique character. Since he is the ONLY evil Cid, that makes him even more awesome.
  2. Well, this Cid has been the only evil Cid, so I guess that makes him more interesting.
  3. Anyone this crazy has to get my vote. Plus he has a nice costume.
  4. Dr. Cid, definitely. He wears the generic "evil mad scientist" stereotype surprisingly well.
  5. Well he does have a tight ass coat...and he help make Balthier
  6. If he could make a giant gun pop out of nowhere and use it as well as this guy, then maybe Highwind might be a bit of a challenge. But since he can't however, my vote goes to the the doctor that can talk to Venat.
  7. quite possibly the best mad scientist in the series (except maybe Hojo, the wiess thing was pretty cool.) in addition to the giant cannon, summoning an esper, and that strange laugh, he is far superior to the texan stereotype. and the whole "bringing down false gods" bit was pretty damn cool- Exdeath64
  8. Mad scientist Cid gets me. I don't know much of Highwind, since I don't remember 7 much, but I remember XII like the back of my hand. Crazy and helping to make Balthier wins me over.were is the fairness stop deleting coments you nazi
  9. A truly unique Cid; one that isn't necessarily evil, but one that is driven by power and madness to put the world back in the "hands of men"
  10. Someone as psychotic as him has got to win!
  11. He's stylish and arrogant and gleefully demented and doesn't force me to cringe through scenes where he's just a domestically abusive bully (trying to kill Balthier doesn't count).
  12. I've got to go with the malevolent Dr. Cid. He's a power-hungry crazy maniac... loves it.

Peanut Gallery

This is one of the few DNC fights where I can except either losing without getting upset or mad. -- ChiefKakashi 18:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I am pretty much that way in every fight. The only exception was the Materia vs. Junction battle. BOOYAH FFVIII!!! IN YOUR FUCKING FACE!!!! --BlueHighwind 21:55, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

TA, why did you pick this? This was in the Magicite Madness. --Crazyswordsman 00:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Upon further review, apparently it was... for some reason I remembered Highwind being in the Dragoon bracket. I suppose I don't remember voting for it. I only rather randomly voted in that, when able, and sometimes just for my amusement. I'm being pressured to do what people want and if people vote for this stuff, I can't very well say 'no' on some level. --TacticAngel 02:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't care if it was done before. This is turning into a good match. Their perfectly neck and neck at 10.5 votes each. The mumbling discontented masses should just be quiet. --BlueHighwind 02:42, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
It's quickly becoming one sided. It's currently 14.5 to 20. --ChiefKakashi 19:12, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Its currently 43% to 57%, which is only a blow-out in electoral college or when Hillary wins Pennsylvania by that margin. --TacticAngel 21:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I said it's becoming one-sided. I didn't actually say it's already a blow-out. --ChiefKakashi 21:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
this one is rather hard to pick. one is a villain, the other is a party memeber. both are equally great in their own field. --User:VulpineNinja 20 April 2008
Seems still pretty equal to me. RedMage

I'm not sure I should call Dr. Cid evil, but he's definitely mad. Mad for power!! And he's the better engineer, too. Ctaylor503 21:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Wow...Only a 2-point difference. This is a good fight after all. --ChiefKakashi 00:04, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

28 to 28 as of this moment. Whoever picked the last two fights deserves a medal (hi TA), they have been nail-biting and I can't decide who to vote for in this one. 8bit BlackMage 01:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

@Anon vote no.8 for Dr Cid: to whom is this meant to be directed?

couldn't agree more. at least we know the fight isn't exactly onesided 8) VulpineNinja 23 April 2008

The Mad Scientist is losing... You people really have bad taste in Cids. Dark raven 18:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Looks like this one will be another draw and it's only fitting that it is so, IMO. Both Cids are great characters and are equally respected. Bravo and kudos to TA for picking this one. --Tex 21:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

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