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Uwee hee hee hee! Welcome, editors, to the Dragon's Neck Colosseum! My name is Ultros the receptionist, and each week I'm taking bets as to who will win in a tussle between two characters from the Final Fantasy series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll, really. The Colosseum owner stuck me on this duty after Kefka was defeated, but I need the money! So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

The Rules, Briefly

Functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or whom you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that week. Failure to comply with these rules will likely result in your vote being removed up to being banned from participating in future fights.

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Fight 172: YRP v. SHM

Yrp
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RemnantsofSephiroth
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Undecided 		You might say this is the battle of bizarre, awkward, and forced trios cleverly abbreviated to not-quite-pop-culture standings by a three letter acronym... at least thats how everyone I know talks about it. WINNER!
Undecided

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Fight 171: Kefka v. Ultimecia

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Dissidia Ultimecia
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Kefka43 to 		Do you like your villains to be crazy or brilliantly calculating? Do you like them to manipulate time and space or is taking madness to a new level simply enough? Do you like your evil ever-present, or completely unapparent until the last 15 minutes of the final CD? Oh the choices! WINNER!
Kefka

Votes for the Clown

  1. Kefka, definitely. I love this guy so much, I named my kitten after him. Kefka is awesome! --Any alliance whose purpose is not the intention to wage war is senseless and useless. -A. H . 07:14, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
  2. CardboardBoxMan 03:39, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  3. He say 'inconceivable!', which is actually the famous line Vizzini says in 'The Princess Bride'.  CloudyKrystal Dissicon ff7 Clo2 03:51, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Although I haven't played much of FFVI, Kefka started a lot of things later antagonists would try to accomplish such as becoming a god.  Kamikaze Pardee Dissicon ff5 Gil1 05:19, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Best evil laugh ever! TheWOL 14:50, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  6. His laugh is awesome. http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd362/KayRC/wikisig-2.png
  7. Kefka has more character than Ultemicia in my opinion plus he's a freaking psycho, who doesn't love him? :P Cunno 11:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Greatest. Villain. Ever!! Thats what you wanted to hear from me right?  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1 11:17, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  9. The description said it all ケフカパラッツオ 11:20, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  10. Ulti-who? Seriously, given how much Kefka is included in the plot of VI compared to Ultimecia in VIII (I mean, you get to hate him right from the start! That's how I like my Villains to start out!), his obvious insanity and the fact that he actually succeeded in ruling the world for well over a year as opposed to Ultimecia compressing time for only a few hours just make it very hard for me to favor her above him, and thus it is Kefka who receives my vote. MirrorshardSceada 11:28, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  11. I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate Ultimecia (well, sort of...) - DFF Cosmos Piece The Final Fantasy DFF Chaos Piece 19:44, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  12. There's a reason why oppose rhymes with dispose. --BurstDragon 20:16, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  13. --Leon95 20:44, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Like many have said, he's there from the start, so you can love to hate him, he actually ACHIEVES his goal of all-powerful godhoodness, which we can't say for NEARLY EVERY OTHER VILLAIN IN RPG HISTORY. Plus, his Disidia lines are just down right hilarious, even if I hate playing him (long live the Emperor!) King of Noobs 21:05, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  15. I had my friends pick a number between 1 and 10. ...I respect both of these villains. --ClixPsi 23:30, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  16. What the hell is this giveaway? LC 23:33, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  17. I'm from the cult of Kefka. He owns my soul. I must worship him. So i have to vote for him. --FFVIfan 23:35, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Rictisempra 03:26, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
  19. How many villains can complain about having sand on their boots while walking through a desert and still be completly evil? Kefka all the way! User:Genesisrocks(UTC)
  20. No contest here. --RazielZero 13:24, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Kefka looks more like a villain and acts like one... the witch is just annoying in Dissidia. BUT Kefka's pure awesome and annoying!User:HighSeraph8:21 March, 30, 2011
  22. i hate hate hate hate hate HATE villains you only see for the last 10 minutes of the last disc Judge Magister Pyarox 22:59, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
  23. This one will be one-sided for a reason. Master Conjurer 01:17, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
  24. I have not played 6 all the way and I have yet to play 8 but from what I have gathered from 6, Kefka seems like a Joker from Batman gone mad, which is saying alot i suppose. On my PSP, I even have Dancing Mad version from 6 and the Dancing Mad version remix from Tsuyoshi Sekito and Kenichiro Fukui. Both are nice versions to say the least while I only have one version of The Extreme. Time's up for that time witch. bad pun intended. Shinryu1991 03:44, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
  25. FREAKIN KEFKA!! Kefka is the greatest FF villain ever, OHMIGOD! --File:Wikia Sig.png (talk) 08:58, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
  26. I'm going to go with the villain who did actual damage in their game and didn't feel tacked on.--StragusLore 13:42, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
  27. ...I actually played "Final Fantasy VIII"...and when I first got the original "Dissidia," I was like, "Who's Ultimecia...?" She's just THAT bland and unmemorable. Now Kefka...who could forget Kefka?FinalArcadia 18:10, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
  28. Oh definitely the maniacal, saddistic clown. 04/01/11, 7:42 p.m.xXdbXx
  29. coolest laugh everrrrrrr Biziorek 04:06, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
  30. I love jesters! Mierna 07:33, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
  31. hmm Ultimecia can control time , but I don't think that puts her in league with a psycho clown god. --Gainsboroughsephiroth 01:58, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
  32. Seriously? No contest. I mean, on the interwebs, Kefka is argued to be on par with SEPHIROTH.Mynameissora 10:57, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
  33. Is this a joke? Well if Kefka's the one making it....GlassAngel13 21:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
  34. He IS Kakashi. Kupohunter FFV gilgamesh 13:03, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
  35. His laugh made him so unforgettable :) shinichi_sama 0:32, April 8,2011 (UTC)
  36. He was the first final fantasy character to have a voice you could hear... when he laughed. He also was the ONLY villain to ever achieve Godhood. Plus, he is the only real "Evil" villain with no other objective than to destroy everything with no regard for life... and I love him for it!!
  37. His evilness actually had a driving purpose. To this day I still don't understand how that whole time compression thing was supposed to work. He understood that destroying the world you live in benefits you in no way shape or form!--XOneWingedAngelx 23:26, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
  38. Uwee hee hee hee! Exoesqueleto7 17:00, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
  39. Nothing against Ultimecia, but Kefka's probably the best Final Fantasy villain ever. He's the obvious choice in their original games. Sadly his Dissidia reincarnation isn't quite as impressive; it's like he's just a manikin of himself. Ultimecia's "alternate outfit" of Lady Edea made me laugh though. Yrl 23:45, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
  40. Kefka best villain ever!!!! User: Rikku Trepe
  41. It's sad that Kefka's getting anti-fan hate almost to the level of Sephiroth these days, but he just deserves this, simple as that. I will say that Ultimecia is a worthy opponent and deserves more love than she gets, but honestly Zemus did her main schtick (I mean the "acting through loved one" bit) better. capefeather 14:15, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. 24.168.218.196 22:51, April 1, 2011 (UTC) To start, I want to give Ultimecia the credit she is due. Esoteric class (Time Mage), clever plot, strong and beautiful woman. That said, Kefka Palazzo has more personality than many villains, actually succeeded in becoming a god, and ruled for a year over his world. Additionally, his spells are much harder to avoid.
  2. 201.252.120.226 05:36, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Kefka is a villian, Ultimesia just appears at the end, Seifer is a bad guy ten times better than her
  3. 200.88.107.82 05:59, April 8, 2011 (UTC)dude, really? this is a one-sided ho kicking contest. how can anyone really vote for that....thing?
  4. 65.75.232.250 02:13, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Votes for the Witch

  1. Someone has to take that bastard down a knotch and being beat by a girl, weeeeelllll...... talk about punishment(snicker).--Vaan008 11:49, April 19, 2011
  2. Has boobies beats not has boobies. --BlueHighwind 04:07, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  3. The Extreme is one of the best musics of the series. -- LTFabrettiChocobo Dragoon 19:09, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Koharu Nami 04:09, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Dodongray23 06:18, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Playtime is over! :D
  6. http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/KujaFFIX/2ea674f6.pngKujaBox 08:34, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
  7. Azoonaloc12 09:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Although usually my vote would go to Kefka, I'm goin with Ultimecia cas shes at the disadvantage, my bet is that Kefka would win seeing as the only villain more popular than him is Sephiroth.
  8. Oh noes my suggestion has made it here :O *opens Corona and celebrates* MMLN メーマウリアン 18:25, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
  9. I'm not surprised by lack of love for Ultimecia, but I'll still be loyal to her, especially since I think Kefka is far too overrated. MystRay 19:25, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
  10. I have no idea why I'm voting for her. It seems to me that Square got into a stalemate when they made Rinoa the sorceress. BTW, I wanted to be the first one to say this: Ultimicia (Who?) =P SquallRocks 22:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
  11. As much as I like Kefka (and as much as I know this battle was decided the minute it was nominated), I like Ultimecia's unique idea for world domination better. If she succeeded, she wouldn't destroy the planet then just get bored, she would rule ALL of time FOREVER, plus the whole becoming a god thing was old before even the first Final Fantasy. Rakanadyo 04:36, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Although I love Kefka, I'm gonna have to throw my weight at Ultimecia. The first Final Fantasy game I played was FF X, and after that I backtracked. Eight was the first one I could get my hands on, and is easily my third favorite in the series (behind VII and X, but don't ask me which one rates higher, you won't like the answer). Final Fantasy VI is the is high up their in my book, and the reason for that is, of course, Kefka. But since Kefka is dominating, and I love VIII so much, my vote belongs here. StarNinja99 That chick that cried! 02:33, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Kefka becomes pathetic after WoB and Ultimecia was really in control the entire game. --SidVI 13:15, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
  14. Vastly underrated villainess. Especially since people claim she doesn't appear until the end. She appears in DISC ONE, people. Edea doesn't properly appear until later. Ultimecia's there from basically the start. *off my chest*. Rafflesia 13:50, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Kefka's such a one note character he's a more annoying Ex-Death. God of magic gets beat by magic? Ha! Ulti gets lots of undeserved flak. She's a very competent villain and she's got cojones with her idea of Godhood(way above any other FF baddie) and it takes guts to rock a hair style like that and still be considered a threat.AnonyMan 00:47, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Rinoa Leonheart 03:32, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Oh Yeah
  17. Sure--Maverick King 19:03, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Kefka is sooooo annoying, so inately I'd vote for her, and she is more awsome than he Noir Infernal
  19. She is the best female villain ever. --Marluxia13 13:24, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Kefka was more of a joke than a villain in his game. I just couldn't take him seriously. And he is a bad joker rip-off. I don't like Ultimecia, but I am really annoyed with all the hype that Kefka gets. He is extremely overrated. President Rufus Shinra 20:07, April 13, 2011 (UTC)
  21. I REALLY prefer Ultimicia over kefka, first, I don't like weird clowns. Second, ultimicia is a pretty hot witch. Naruuchiha1313 11:27, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. 88.151.27.235 16:25, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Ok, I like both of them but it's Ultimecia who really needs the votes! Plus, I'm a sucker for a tragic backstory, and the fact that Ultimecia was persecuted and condemned for crimes she hadn't actually committed yet (which probably prompted her to become full of hate and anger) makes me feel a little sorry for her, especially as this was so subtly dealt with in the game. Also, she's stylish, classy and, well, lets just say she looks better in that dress than Kefka would... ; ). Plus, I love her tattoos!
  2. I don't know why, but I really like Ultimecia, so heres my vote!#2.102.245.89 18:40, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
  3. 201.66.47.53 19:33, April 7, 2011 (UTC) Ultimecia, one of the best Villains EVER. Her cold, clever personality is awesome.
  4. She is the only villain I almost thought I did not defeat! With her time compression/manipulation Squall and the guys almost never defeated her. Even after defeating her, the party melts into time compression, and I was like *bang!* she wins--totally! Thankfully Squall's love for Rinoa manages to 'bond' the different time strands and time coalesces into a happy ending. Way to go Ultimecia for making the game the ONLY one where I thought all those hours were lost in one, evil, masterminded plan designed to crush (and compress) my innocence!! 78.110.65.132 00:54, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Side boob, nuff said

Peanut Gallery

The only character besides Vivi that seems to be on par with Sephiroth in popularity vs. A character most people hate for some reason from a game most people hate for some reason, the one sidedness is gonna be painful. Rakanadyo 04:31, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

It is so obvious that Kefka is going to win. LTFabrettiChocobo Dragoon 17:02, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

After all these years people are STILL accusing Ultimecia of showing up out of nowhere at the very end? Really? Seems a lot of people didn't pay ANY attention at all during the game or stopped playing after Disc one. Maybe she should have cooked more crack cocaine and kicked some more kittens to get people to stop hating on her. Next people are gonna start whining that Kuja's ridiculously buff body and rippling muscles are too grotesque and unrealistic.AnonyMan 01:01, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

They are. Everything in IX was made to be more unrealistic. But that's it's charm. I just say the whole cod-piece thing is a little disturbing. King of Noobs 13:23, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
@Anonyman did you complete VIII yourself? she did not appear untill the last 10 minutes of the game Judge Magister Pyarox 21:59, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
What'd you do, start right on the 4th disc? Okay, Ultimecia may have shown up IN PERSON at the end but she was running the show from the start. Her character was established but not shown well before you finally face her.AnonyMan 22:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
Seriously, Ultimecia was possessing Edea from the start. It was HER who attacked SeeD in the First and Second Discs... then she possessed Rinoa then transfered to Adel, attacking the party again using Adel's powers. Then finally in the fourth disc, the party faces her. The only way to truly defeat Ultimecia. Also, i've noticed some people saying that Kefka destroyed the world, Ultimecia didn't. Incorrect again, when the party goes to the future, Ultimecia rules it completely. There's a ton of bodies outside of her castle of former White SeeDs. She already controlled the future and she was trying to rule the past and the present as well. 10x more badass than Kefka in my opinion.FatesChosenHero 26:41, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
I give her plenty of credit - she is indeed a badass woman. However, she also seals her own fate by passing her power to Edea at the very end, thus starting the whole game and throwing herself into a temporal loop, during which she is born, lives, conquers, gets killed by Squall and party, passes her power to Edea, dies, and it starts all over again. Meanwhile, after her defeat, the heroes are all celebrating, having escaped that temporal loop. Besides that, her conquest loses something for the audience, since it is never actually witnessed. Kefka is in-your-face with his plot, giving you no peace and showing off his genocidal tendencies from the start - burning all of Figaro just to get one girl (which failed), poisoning all of Doma, using magic to kill multiple Espers just so he can have more power, blasting the world (right before your very eyes) with the power of the Warring Triad and bringing said world to its knees. Again, Ultimecia is a cold, cunning, cruel villainess in her own right, badass in her own way... but there is a reason people prefer Kefka Palazzo.24.168.218.196 01:18, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
I wouldn't say sealing your fate in an infinite time loop is SO bad. I mean, it worked out okay for Garland/Chaos for a time. Hell, it's the whole premise Dissidia revolves around. I'm surprised Ultimecia didn't have a more active role in Dissidia. Mynameissora 17:55, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
True! I would have liked to see all the characters given a real moment to shine - thanks to her portrayal in Dissidia, Terra's really not given the credit she deserves, either. In addition to being a badass half-Esper who is turned from a slave-weapon into a powerful woman that discovers herself and her very soul, she saves the party with what would have been the last of her strength if not for that human side of hers. And she kicks Kefka's ass. Terra rocks! XD 24.168.218.196 23:09, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
Well no offense to Ultimecia in general, but I think the major point people are trying to get across here while voting for Kefka, is that it DOESN'T matter if your spiritual manifestation takes over some one's body in the past to get crap done. That's not good enough, they need to see you up close, face first, in the beginning, doing some thing terrible as yourself, not in the body of some other being. Doesn't matter you can time travel or want to rule time itself. I admit that's some what an original concept. Also, Ultimecia kicking kittens would make me hate her, not appreciate her in a liking sense that makes me want to vote and boost her popularity, sorry. The fact just remains that Ultimecia isn't able to shake her tatas in your face till the end and she's nothing more than a puppeteer that needs to use a 'special' girls powers for time compression. --Gunji 04:39, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
That description in your last sentence can make anyone sound unimpressive. Like Kefka is nothing more than a loon who needed to move statues to be strong. Also you make it sound like Ultimecia is the ONlY villain who needed some outside resources and help to help achieve their goals. Every FF antagonist had some kind of assistance to help them out. Besides if Ulti could actually travel herself Time Compression would have already happened. Ask the cast of Tales of Phantasia how annoy time jumping villains are.AnonyMan 22:04, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
Kefka also required the infusion of Esper energy and magicite to bolster his powers to obscene levels, but that's actually something in his favor - unlike Mateus (sorcerous Emperor), Cloud of Darkness (embodiment of Void), Zemus/Zeromus (hyper-telepathic Lunarian), Exdeath (embodiment of many evils), Sephiroth (alien-hybrid experiment gone wrong), Ultimecia (time sorceress), Yu Yevon (deity-tick), and many, many, many others, Kefka actually had to earn his power. He had to grow and be proactive in his theft of power - he didn't have it handed to him on a silver platter. Even though the game says the infusion gave him "great magical power," he still has to pull it under his control, just like Celes does. This is just one more point that sets him apart from so many other Final Fantasy villains - and thanks to needing to grow in power, he doesn't come off as a threat until it's far too late. His cunning is downplayed and the necessary experience in tactics and trickery just to get to where he is becomes all but forgotten. I say again, Ultimecia is intelligent and powerful, her plan to take over time itself is a superb idea, but she's also very distant and lacked personality until Dissidia.24.168.218.196 06:43, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
@Genji, "...Ultimecia isn't able to shake her tatas in your face till the end..." That says a lot about how you think. Also, I wish this were Facebook so I could like the above comment. :) Mynameissora 18:04, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
@Myanmeissora - Thanks! (I think you meant my comment. Presumptuous, maybe, but feel free to call me out on it. XD) Honestly, though, every character has his or her merits - I'm just an unabashed "Kefkultist." XD 24.168.218.196 23:09, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

@Mynameissora Yes. I am full of cynical comments. Also, @AnonyMan "Besides if Ulti could actually travel herself Time Compression would have already happened." Yeah that's kind of what I meant. --Gunji 09:48, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

I can't believe only ONE person voted Ultimecia because of boobs.Mynameissora 10:56, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Because if most people want boobs, they vote Tifa. King of Noobs 13:23, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
Give people some credit. Not everyone are knuckle-dragging simpletons. There are also people who prefer the booty instead.AnonyMan 22:33, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I realy like Kefka from ff6 (evil and mad), but I don't like him from Dissidia (to much silly, not enough sinister). I kinda like Ultimecia from ff8 (who/where?), and I realy like her from dissidia (regal). Both are mages. Kefka dresses/fights silly/ugly, Ultimecia dresses/fights cool. Both wants to become gods, but kefka clearly has a better way about it. Hard to say who comes closest tho. Too hard for me to decide. The Rood Inverse 13:16, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Listen to Kefka's Japanese voice actor. It makes everything better. Master Conjurer 15:32, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
So very true, his Japanese voice actor couldn't be better. His English was good, but... meh. Hence, I got the Japanese version of Dissidia 012. Where voice acting is at the peak of brilliance in terms of games. 1stclasswarrior 22:54, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah giving credit where credit is due. Yeah Ultimecia is awesome. Takes control of people from thousands of years in the future. Sets a world in the almost civil war like atmosphere and compresses time to where you could visit your self while you where ten and then see you future and what your future could have been if events changed in less then a 10 mile walk. Thats some epic stuff. Yeah I saw her influence through out the entire game but you didn't really understand this was happening until your on the 3 third disc disk which blows. I like to at least to know who the true villain is at least by the second disc. all the other final fantasies have spoiled me so. Im not dogging on FFVII either I love that game , its my favorite of the series thus far. But Kefka That's is one clown you don't mess with he destroyed many cities before you even had a chance to really gain any true power in the game and all your think is holy crap how am i suppose to defeat this guy. They delayed this game being sent to america due to its difficulty. The japanese deemed this the hardest rpg to beat at the time. By the time you get powerful enough to beat he turn into a god. Which make you characters seem a little lacking. Also Ultimecia in FFVIII had a speech impediment... what kinda super villain has a speech impediment. I dislike that they changed this about in Dissidia --Gainsboroughsephiroth 16:30, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Dissidia in general didn't do a lot of characterss personalities justice to their original incarnations. Only a couple actually were better characterized in it like, Bartz and the nameless heroes.AnonyMan 23:21, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Fight 170: Freya Crescent v. Oerba Yun Fang

File:Freya Crescent character.jpg
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Ff13-fang
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DRAW 		Who says being a lancer is a man's job? Both of these ladies do a fine job of it, all jumping about... or maybe just one of them? WINNER!
DRAW

Votes for the Freya

  1. HA!! First --BiggsandWedge 04:21, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  2. --LTFabrettiChocobo Dragoon 22:07, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Fang tries her best to do a be backstabbing traitor like Kain. Razordash 04:41, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  4. I simply prefer her as a character. http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/KujaFFIX/2ea674f6.pngKujaBox 05:04, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Freya is 2x the character and 3x the fighter... Fang doesn't even jump, probably because she doesn't want anyone to see up her dress and find out her 'secret'.Seraphic Star 06:16, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Much as I like Fang, I can not help but prefer Freya. Not because she was more useful in battle than Fang who is a total beast, but because she had the in my eyes more interesting backstory. Also, her "catchphrase" from the opening screen is something that has deeply impressed me, and always will. MirrorshardSceada 09:23, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  7. ClixPsi 09:54, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  8. She is in my opinion the better character and fighter. Keep in mind that I haven't played XIII yet, so I can't really be a good judge yet. MystRay 11:52, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  9. I dislike Dragoon, but Freya is worth of ammiration: Burmesian, Dragoon, woman and a fully-developed character.
  10. ケフカパラッツオ 18:06, March 9, 2011 (UTC) Freya, from the Norse mithology, the Lady, the Goddess of love, beauty, War and Valkyries, in her eternal search for her beloved... VS a tough lesbian? -.-'
  11. <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 BfD t/c 19:39, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  12. I think its more impressive that square made you feel sympathy for a rat, than less sympathy for rather two dimensional sex symbol. Plus, it is kind of silly to have a dragoon that can't jump. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 23:02, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Freya has a unique set of commands and is able to jump - Everyone in XIII has potentially the same and fang bored me. Balthierfan 23:31, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  14. She has the best theme ever. LC 08:13, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Lord Noctis 16:42, March 10, 2011 (UTC) Never got far enough to use fang so my vote is for Freya.
  16. Bluestarultor Best-of Stellar Arena sigicon BSA 23:38, March 10, 2011 (UTC) She may be from a lower-powered game, but she's a great character in that game with some nice skills and a personality completely unique to her in the series. Freya was the first woman in the series who was both strong and truly fragile, a soldier who lost her true love in the most painful way possible, by being forgotten.
  17. I love everything about her and her musical theme. Kamukamo 06:17, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
  18. I liked Freya, she was a fun character. President Rufus Shinra
  19. She has a deeper backstory and her own motives vs Fang who's pretty much a 2D char with some "scripted" events. Although Freya isn't that usefull in combat, she's at lest different than the other chars. FF13's char are all the same The Rood Inverse 14:14, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Freya had such a great storyline and she was just awesome in general. Dragon Crest was such a great attack too ZaleraExdeath 08:05, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  21. FF9 12:43, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  22. Because one of these is a character and the other is from XIII. Masamune
  23. Rat lady. Enough said. King of Noobs 04:48, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
  24. What Blue said made me change my vote. Kayreeed Caliburn   - 07:29, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
  25. bibliomaniac15 20:00, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
  26. Overall a much better character than Fang.....Plus she has a tail! Ruki-Chan 21:29, March 15, 2011 (UTC)#
  27. Michael 01:18, March 17, 2011 (UTC) Freya shes from my favorite final fantasy game so obviously freya
  28. Ffcactuar 8:17 2011 mar 16
  29. Baptiejames 09:17, March 17, 2011 (UTC) Trance = Invincible while attacking and she does it herself, Fang needs Bahamut to be invincible while attacking (Gestalt mode i believe), and while im onto that how does Freya throw down like 20 spears when she only has one?
    +:ZwinHalder:+: 21:27 March 18, 2011/ I ever play her and never play that OYF.
  30. OwlEye 19:44, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
  31. I'm sorry Fang but I prefer Freya because I didn't know where her face was when I saw her for the first time unlike you~ and THAT was really cool from Freya! Regoli17:19, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
  32. Freya went through so much just to find out the love of her life didn't even remember who she was. AND she still went on with Zidane to kill Kuja, carrying her sorrow with her. That, my friends, is a true warrior.Vercery 12:27, March 23, 2011 (UTC)
  33. RenoZellRikku 08:19, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
  34. CidTheFirst 15:18, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
  35. Freya is impressive by the many ways that other people mentioned it. A.X.A 14:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
  36. What? They're tied right now!? Madness! Freya must win for all that is a giant anthropomorphic rat! MarcusKevaulx 16:21, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
  37. Freya is the only Rat Dragoon ,what you expect?? Ursoc and Ursol 16:21, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. 187.3.176.218 22:16, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
  2. 123.243.221.110 06:11, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  3. 65.75.232.250 23:45, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  4. 62.197.173.242 06:59, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
  5. 173.57.172.74 05:40, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
  6. 75.152.110.98 10:18, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
  7. 71.183.72.251 23:30, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Fang is cool, but Freya is far cooler. 206.226.255.59 22:12, March 17, 2011 (UTC)
  9. 65.35.251.76 07:01, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
  10. 84.103.66.28 13:22, March 20, 2011 (UTC) "To be forgotten is worse than death", that pretty much sums it up. Heck, even Zidane forgot her name for a second there.
  11. 74.178.217.36 19:23, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Freya's got a composite Red Mage/Dragoon costume. What's not to love?
  12. 92.16.147.183 20:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
  13. 112.198.64.74 15:23, March 26, 2011 (UTC)Freya!!!!!

Votes for the Fang

  1. Fang doesn't waste anytime lamenting on lost love.  CloudyKrystal Dissicon ff7 Clo2 04:36, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Fang jumps too, she just has to launch her opponent upwards first. And that's pretty impressive, too. Jimcloud 04:55, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Highwind --BurstDragon 05:34, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Fang!!! :D Koharu Nami 13:39, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  5. --Leon95 15:12, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  6. I'm just not a Freya fan.  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1 15:30, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  7. MMLN メーマウリアン 15:32, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Tough choice. They're both amazing! Fang has the edge though for being the stronger fighter (ignoring Freya's Dragon Crest, which was annoying to power up) and having the better back story. Fang's dedication to her friend is more poignant than Freya's search for the amnesiac Fratley. Yrl 15:38, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  9. In my movie, she's going to be played by Michelle Rodriguez. --BlueHighwind 18:55, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  10. ZazComet 17:36, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Drojanlex 15:59, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  12. She is most pretty ^^Exoesqueleto7 16:02, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  13.  Kamikaze Pardee Dissicon ff5 Gil1 21:50, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Rikku Trepe fang kills everything with her special move highwind Fang RULES!!!
  15. Fang will always be my top Australian-lesbian Dragoon. SquallRocks 22:38, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Idk, I love both of them, but I really hate how Freya's a rat... and Fang has Bahamut. skygrinder14 17:13, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Squallrocks and Skygrinder14 pretty much summed up what i was gonna say Judge Magister Pyarox 23:15, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Straya. Master Conjurer 00:44, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
  19. Her Highwind is one of only two attacks in the FF series capable of doing 2 million+ damage TheWOL 14:49, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
  20. FANG!!!! TheCaleumFleuret 05:59, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
  21. I'm a fan of both, but it definitely has to be Fang for me on this one. She's amazing! Agent0042 18:17, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
  22. For Fang, the hottest chick to cross Gran Pulse and the strongest character in FF13! Munk451 20:04, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
  23. She's a badass mofo. XxRikku-chanxX 20:48, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Best character. Best battle quotes. Best attacks. Best stats. Best voice acting. Fang is the BEST!!! - DFF Cosmos Piece The Final Fantasy DFF Chaos Piece 23:09, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
  25. I favor Fang over the other! She's sexier, love her accent and powerful! Zeypher 23:44, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
  26. Wolfbait117 03:38, March 11, 2011 (UTC)I'll vote for a lady like Fang over some creature any day. Plus, I kinda sorta ABHORRED Final Fantasy IX. I'm just sayin'...
  27. Best character in FFXIII, both story-wise AND battle-wise, IMO. That is all. Equa-Chan 19:51, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
  28. She's Hot... SΓΣamyGoreng "I'm a blabber mouth, i'll report you to this user if you say those thing again BLAH *steamygoreng vomits from disgust*!!!" 02:28, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  29. But just a little bit better. --RazielZero 09:07, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  30. Sorry, Freya, but you're a rat. SquallisbetterthanCloud 09:47, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
  31. Rictisempra 15:22, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
  32. Her accent is... freaking sweet (I fell in love with Australian accent because of Vanille and her). And her comments are hilarious.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 22:15, March 14, 2011 (UTC)!
  33. A very well written character! She contributes more to the storyline than Freya. Digitopolis 05:22, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
  34. The Almighty Ninja That chick that cried! 17:36, March 17, 2011 (UTC)
  35. --Singing Dragon 20:37, March 24, 2011 (UTC)
  36. Fonzyboi 01:42, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
  37. Sexy outfit,voice,body, and every thing else i like freya but she's a rat User:L'cieBeast 2:12, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
  38. Aussie Aussie Aussie, Fang Fang Fang Biziorek 02:55, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
  39. Cause Fang has Highwind and can do more in a fight than Freya ever can. Cunno 12:27, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. Fang is by far the most awesome female dragoon EVAR!!! She has the strongest attack potential in the game, her three sectioned staff and potential in the magician field via saboteur or even ravager says a lot about her versatility. Lets not forget she's also a pretty sweet sentinel. And she's just awesome! She's laid back but still has a sense of urgency to her. She occasionally flies off the handle but she settles down and does enough to support the party.(SPOILERS) Did I mention that she's the one that becomes Ragnarok, a beast destined to cause untold chaos, destruction, and ruin, but somehow ends up saving everyone in Cocoon? Because that did happen.

    Freya is awesome in her own right, and her love story ending on a less than happy ending makes her a more compelling female character. But I've gotta go with Fang, beautiful, badass, staff wielding, dragoon, and a living doomsday weapon all rolled into one. Still don't think she's a lesbian though. I get how it can be misconstrued but, Square Enix is NOT that gutsy, its merely fan interpretation and it adds nothing to the story. At least from my perspective...
  2. Oerba Yun Fang is the best dragoon by far. Her story was awesome and I love how she cared for Vanille like she was her little sister. Fang is also a badass and has Bahamut for her eidolon. 15:33, March 9, 2011
  3. I love love love Fang (and don't get me wrong, I love Freya too). Just a refreshing character, overall really, and she is just such a BEAST in a fight. 69.242.160.79 22:38, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
  4. SHE IS THE BEST!!!,20:24 10, march, 2011, Brazil
  5. 108.5.66.3 05:41, March 12, 2011 (UTC) Fang is, quite simply, amazing. I love her as a character and as a dragoon.
  6. Oerba is awesome. 12:37, march, 2011
  7. Fang! I like her character design better--you can't tell what Freya is hidden under the hat awkwardly. Plus, she's the 'tougher' lancer. 78.110.75.69 00:35, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
  8. While Freya is 1 of tha better characters from tha ff series, tha crazy Australian Fang gets my vote!
  9. Fang is amazing!, not just her abilities, but her general attitude to life, and her personality, your no.1 in my book, Fang! 20:59, March 22, 2011
  10. Fang is hot as hell and has an empowering personality to boot! 14:45, March 24, 2011
  11. She is just so cool!!!! 15:33, March 26, 2011

Peanut Gallery

I can't decide. Both are awesome in their own ways... On the one hand, I liked Freya's love story and her character development, although she was not exactly the best in battle and her appearance was a little disappointing (Burmecians are half rats, half humans... not cool). On the other hand, Fang was really cool both in personality and appearance, but with XIII I felt that every character had a poor development (except Sazh, or whatever it is spelled). Now, I know, Fang's role in the ending is awesome and all. I don't know, I think I would vote for her if there wasn't the fact that she's so hot (which will make her win, probably). Good fight though, much better that some other ones I've seen around here. Crimson Jealous 16:09, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

@TA Fang jumps if you use her full ATB skill: Highwind... Judge Magister Pyarox 23:17, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

This seems rather familiar, once again.  TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun102:52, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

So what if Fang is lesbian? (and there's not any evidence about it...). Are you homophobics or what? That should not be a reason to vote against her. Crimson Jealous 13:53, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

  1. Lord Noctis 16:41, March 10, 2011 (UTC) Hey has Kain Vs. Fang been done yet?

I want to know how many people actually played XIII. Be honest. SquallRocks 21:59, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

*raises hand* Still playing it. Not a bad game, in my opinion. Bluestarultor Best-of Stellar Arena sigicon BSA 22:04, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
Played and completed, you can see if I liked it or not if you read my review, Heres a link to it if anyones interested...  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1 22:30, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
Played and ompleted, and I actually liked the game. Shocking, I know. Jimcloud 22:46, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
Beat it with all Achievements. Not gonna do a second run. Story bored the hell out of me. I just don't vote in this sinking ship anymore.  TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun123:31, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
Still playing it, and enjoying it. Tacodude3 23:51, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
I too am still playing it to kill long gui's and shaolong gui's. i have also got at least one ultimate weapon for each character. I especially liked Vanille and Fang for thier accents and usefulness. TheWOL 13:00, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
Now heres another question: If you had to rank this game, will be in your top 5 Final Fantasy's? I absolutely love this game, I think it was better than 8 (shocker) but not as good as 7...Mainly because of no towns. I say it's the third best. SquallRocks 03:11, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
Definitely top 5 for me, my top 5 would be, VII, X, VIII, XIII and II. Not in any order and i still replay them occasionally, especially XIII. TheWOL 13:00, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
Completely finished XIII and I have to honestly say, crushing disappointment at how it turned out after all the waiting. It's just not a great game. It's not as terrible as I regularly complain but the fact it took them so long to spit out a game without towns, barely any sidequests, no depth, and no replay value and a vaguely understandable lacklustre story is pretty grim. It just saddens me that they made it so beautiful but everything else was such a let down. The developers themselves are aware of how much of a mess they've made too, so I think their grovelling speaks for itself. Ranking it though, it still beats FFII which was shockingly bad. So that's a plus. Hamfruitcake 09 10:18, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
I applaud Squenix for not letting gameplay get in the way of a great story. Isn't that the problem people had with X-2? They create the opposite, and people are still not happy? Master Conjurer 15:43, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

I dont really see why its hated this much, the stages were linear but i didnt mind it still scores high in my top 12 (number 4)) Judge Magister Pyarox 22:18, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Neither do I. I'm a BIG fan. KayreeedCaliburn  - 04:40, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
I just started playing this myself, and frankly, I am loving it. It's nice to have a definitive direction to go in right off the bat (and watching Lightning punch people is frankly amusing.) 67.249.160.204 20:10, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad to see my favorite character is standing up well against an insanely more well-known one. Fanart anyone? :] BfD t/c 23:36, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Of course Freya will win!! just look at there pictures, Freya has shadow and Fang is not!!

I'm holding a memorial service for the DNC. Everyone is invited. And check this out.  TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun122:50, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Stop that. Master Conjurer 23:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Fight 169: The Warrior of Light v. The... "An" Onion Knight

Dissidia Warrior of Light
 Dnc v
Dissidia OnionKnight
WINNER!
Warrior of Light
42 to 32½ 		Somewhat ambiguous... WINNER!
Warrior of Light
Dissidia Warrior of Light

Votes for the Warrior of Light

  1. KayreeedCaliburn  - 05:41, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Kamikaze Pardee 05:49, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Lightning Insanity 08:10, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  4. I hate the little shit. Easily the most annoying opponent in the entire Dissidia. SquallisbetterthanCloud 08:57, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Shine, Radiant Light, BRIGHT!!!! i love him too, hehhehe. BusterTsurugi2NE1Dissicon ff7 Clo2 09:04, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Hashire! Hikari yo! Because he looks cool in his 3rd alternate outfit in Dissidia 012 Duodecim Final Fantasy.. --TerraBranford145322 12:04, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  7. The linked articles are from the original games, and Warrior is more useful in FF than Onion Knight is in FFIII. Master Conjurer 14:53, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Hey, sweet, my fight got in! Jimcloud Cloud Chocobo 14:55, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  9. He's voiced by Kilik. --Leon95 15:11, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  10. http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/KujaFFIX/2ea674f6.pngKujaBox 15:26, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Wtf dude? Is really the Onion Knight up in the fight?? C'mon people, the Warrior is THE HERO! xDDD Exoesqueleto7 13:25, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  12. How can the Onion Knight win over the Warrior of Light? He was defeat Garland! Resh87 14:37, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  13. DFF Cosmos Piece The Final Fantasy DFF Chaos Piece 20:14, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Wasn't really sold on either in Dissidia, and I never played their games, so I'll go by usefulness in combat. I feel that Warrior of Light overall has the edge, mostly because he isn't hindered by lag time when his attacks miss, unlike Onion Knight, who while is indeed fast, when he misses, he's horribly exposed, and I'm better at melee than I am at magic/range. Razordash20:31, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Ltfabretti Dragoon 22:30, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Lord Noctis 00:09, February 23, 2011 (UTC) Tough choice but I'm going to have to vote for the warrior of light here.
  17. I hate them both, like some people here. You can take them out of the whole FF series, and nothing will change; nobody will notice. They're like the Pokemon Trainer in Pokemon. You can name him whatever you want, do whatever you want with him, and he doesn't even say a word. He's just there for you. SquallRocks 00:54, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
  18. --Ronaldo Campello 03:19, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
  19. You're kidding me, right? This is a man versus a child. Half of the votes for the Onion Knight right now are PITY votes. The Onion Knight teamed up with his friends to kill Cloud of Darkness. The Warriors of Light teamed up to defeat Garland, destroy the four elemental fiends, go back in time, and crush a god. Warrior of Light can't NOT have my vote. Wolfbait117 09:30, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
  20. One of my favorites vs one of my most hated. . . obvious whats gonna happen.Blacksnowdog 22:54, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Love this guy! That, and OK's just a kid. idk. Kinda speaks for itself. skygrinder14 21:11, February 23, 2011
  22. Original story-wise, they're exactly the same person, only with an age difference. But, like in American Idol, a youngster like OK has a long way to go. So I'm voting for WoL on this.Mynameissora 12:04, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
  23. I can't vote for a kid whose cleverness consists of running away from Exdeath by begging mercy. Also, in my opinion WoL is funnier to control -although it's true that OK's ninja job is kinda cool, that's not enough. Crimson Jealous 00:44, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
  24. bibliomaniac15 08:37, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
  25. --XxNoctisxx 01:37, February 26, 2011 (UTC)xxNoctisxx
  26. No way I'm voting for Onion Knight against the Warrior. The Warrior is the one that started it all. Not to mention that OK was probably the most annoying character in Dissidia. Lord Knight Xiron 17:30, February 26, 2011 (UTC)Lord Knight Xiron
  27. Michael 14:57, February 27, 2011 (UTC)Ffcactuar 08:53 Warrior of light is the original Ffcactuar 08:56,Febuary 28, 2011
  28. Had to vote for WoL, too awesome not to vote, nothing against the Onion Knight, but WoL completely takes the cake for me this fight, Paladin's are awesome (even if he doesn't exactly count) 10:08 Febuary 27 2011 (PST) User:Vason SilverSword
  29. Not a fan of WoL, since he's such a stuckup in Dissidia, but never played FF3 so.Shinytentacool 22:32, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
  30. they are both lame but at least WoL isn't annoying President Rufus Shinra 19:48, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
  31. Rinoa Leonheart 20:48, February 28, 2011 (UTC)No match WOL wins Oh Yeah
  32. Metroidrules231 08:42, March 1, 2011 (UTC)The Stuck up idiot or the Extremely annoying kid?I'll go with the Stuck up idiot.
  33. c'mon people, who could actually lose to an ONION ?! Injektileur 02:45, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
  34. First time voting in a long time! But yeh going for the Warrior of Light! Looks so much more badass than the onion! Zeypher 06:30, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
  35. WoL has traveled thru time to kill a God while still hold belief to light "Restore the Crystal to Grace!" n not even ONCE doubt his own n only resolution.Storywise,WoL managed to handle his own problem to get the crystal in Dissidia,while OK is saddd.Battle-wise~...omg, can u resist the awesomeness when WoL do his EX-BURST n finish the move with his line,"you are FINISH!"Lunarukun13:59, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
  36. Because horned helmets are cool.--Innosense 17:08, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
  37. WoL is the first final fantasy character so he has to win User:Keyblader1818 11:338, March 3, 2011
  38. Leonhart VIII WoL is better than some kid called 'the onion knight'
  39. TheWOL Obviously a legendary warrior blessed by the light is way better than a kid knight named after a smelly vegetable..
  40. Sendosune : He's the original hero of final fantasy, onion knight btw is a stupid name for a hero, Now Warrior of light, that's a proper name.
  41. FinalArcadia 18:54, March 7, 2011 (UTC)Because I win more often being the Warrior of Light. And he isn't an insufferable know-it-all.

Anonymous Votes

  1. 65.75.232.250 22:30, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Because the game he was from started it all....that, and he's pretty darn cool in Dissidia (although I prefer using O.K.)--121.123.247.5 09:04, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Votes for the Onion Knight

  1. He's one of the characters I'm quite good with in Dissidia.  CloudyKrystal Dissicon ff7 Clo2 05:46, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  2. III was my first FF. I know he won't win, but he gets my vote anyway.Rafflesia 09:05, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Poor kid. LC 09:20, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Gotta show the little one some love. WoL gets more than enough spotlight already. MirrorshardSceada 09:25, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  5. I never liked WoL anyway--Xabryn 11:00, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  6. They were both very annoying, but at least he was protecting someone and at least he somewhat changed on his journey. I didn't feel like WoL changed at all. MystRay 11:50, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  7. I liked his voice in the Japanese version. ...That's how indifferent I am on these two. --ClixPsi 13:04, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  8. I'll vote for the little guy today. Alarielle 14:26, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  9. My favorite in Dissidia. Bond em7 14:40, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  10. What MystRay said. Even though he is one of my worst enemy he is a cool little guy. --RazielZero 14:46, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Lets see... He's fun to play, He gets character development and he's from the better game. The only downside is that he's annoying to battle with.  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1 16:16, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  12. He's adorable!!!! Purple lightning 17:21, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  13. He can change jobs.Mr.Beoulve 19:01, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  14. A vote for my main. Doesn't get much more obvious than that. Sol Vent 20:57, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  15. I like kids. --BlueHighwind 21:02, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  16. i think you think to much, better quotes, better personality, better game, and my strongest character Judge Magister Pyarox 23:44, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  17. I think that FFIII was a cooler game than FFI and besides, OK just looks cooler. NevikCRN 18:26, Febuary 22, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Trindadex 21:57, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
  19. III provided the first Class Change system in Final Fantasy. In Disidia, the kid is just funny, smart, and quick on his feet. So my vote goes here. Plus, I just love his armor design and pic. King of Noobs 04:21, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Best Dissidia hero. :D Final_Requiem 12:51, February 23, 2011
  21. He is reallllly cute and I love his design! Hige Unari 7:09 February 23, 2011
  22. ケフカパラッツオ 17:42, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
  23. very very tough decision, but based on who I like more to play in Dissidia, i'll go with Onion today MMLN メーマウリアン 23:00, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Sunpanda2012 05:07, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
  25. so much more customizable ChemistX 20:02, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
  26. I never liked WoL anyway--Drojanlex 02:54, March 1, 2011 (UTC)
  27. OwlEye 20:12, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
  28. i win much more with onion knight even all of inward chaos. in my opinion hes the best character for winingTetsuyawatarigani 01:13, March 9, 2011 (UTC)Tetsuyawatarigani
  29. Though I can't stand either, I like OK's Japanese voice as well. xD Hytey 15:21, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. 98.20.20.200 04:45, February 23, 2011 (UTC)Onion Knight is a kid and kicks major ass! He's got my vote (and he's so cute!).
  2. Meh...III was my first Final Fantasy game, so I have a bias towards the kid. Plus he is pretty adorable. ^^ 96.54.215.156 01:33, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Onion Knight is the Prince. 24.2.22.202 20:28, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
  4. 90.200.9.124 09:54, February 26, 2011 (UTC)Both are them are pretty lame but i hate WoL in Dissidia. He's bad in fights and just so up himself. At least Onion Knight plays well.
  5. Onion Knight can change jobs mid-fight in Dissidia...having access to THREE different jobs=my vote! 78.110.75.28 11:31, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Look, the kid is 14 years old and is fighting evil already. What did you do when you were 14? You were still playing the first final fantasy. 76.7.147.75 01:52, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
  7. like his outfit more178.105.119.215 15:35, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery

  1. Can't decide. Who's worse; The arrogant fanatic or the snotty do-gooder? The Rood Inverse 15:01, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
I'd go with snotty do-gooder any day over an arrogant fanatic. Usually better laughs. King of Noobs 04:22, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

I can't decide! Unlike my cynical comrades I like them too much to play favorites. If this were FF1 vs FF3 I'd choose 1 and be done with it. One fights a fallen knight and the other fights a nudist with a tentacle fetish. So that clenches it for 3. At this point, call it a draw and be done with it!

Xande was a nudist with a tentacle fetish? o.o oh! you mean that last minute drop-in villain... Judge Magister Pyarox 14:57, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ya know, if you give me about 5 minutes, I could do a Warrior of Light vs Onion Knight battle in Dissidia and post the results on Youtube. Seriously, easiest way to determine the winner here. --Nahara 03:00, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

DNC remains a popularity contest on purpose. Master Conjurer 15:36, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, I'm surprised how many people still vote here. If you want OTHER fights, You know where to go. TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun1 02:19, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

It's not so surprising, the DNC will always have the largest userbase no matter how many user arenas there are run by whoever. The better run user arenas usually get around 20-30 voters in my experience, which isn't an inconsiderable amount when the DNC gets about 60 and is advertised on userpages via the DNC userbox and on the Wiki mainpage. Also, if TA will indulge me in letting me comment just this once, I'm having Eight-Bit Theater week in my arena! :) Fighter vs Basch, White Mage vs Aeris, come and vote! Drake Clawfang (talk)
You've got a major point Drake. Your arena is probably the most popular, followed by mine and SN's. But 8 Bit Theater Week? I'm there!  TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun117:16, March 6, 2011 (UTC)
Well, aren't you hot >.> --ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3 02:11, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

WOL is generic

Week 167: Ragnarok v. Celsius

Ragnarokairship
 Dnc v
Celsius 1
WINNER!
Ragnarok
More to less 		Two bright red things that fly by no clearly identifiable source of power, not even those tiny propellers that clearly could not create the lift to carry the bulk of the engine, let alone the ship to which it is attached. I'm going to guess this is a fight dealing with thing-to-thing weapons. WINNER!
Ragnarok
More to less

Votes for the Mecha-Dragon

  1. Huh. I'm actually playing through VIII right now. Ironically, I'm in Esthar, right before I get this. Jimcloud Cloud Chocobo 03:44, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Best airship ever!!! </Laguna joke> Kamikaze Pardee 03:54, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  3. --Leon95 04:51, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Silver Mage 09:41, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  5. This thing can actually blow a hole in you, has got two twins and houses one of the best scenes in FF history. WIN. SquallisbetterthanCloud 12:45, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Cooler name. LC 12:46, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  7. because Laguna uses the Ragnarock in duodecim Judge Magister Pyarox 12:53, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Greatest. Attack. EVER!!  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1 14:14, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  9. This has already happened somewhere before, but whatever... Ragnarok is cooler even though the game is bad. --RazielZero 15:07, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  10. --ClixPsi 15:58, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Celsius doesn't deserve to lose this badly, but I still vote for the Ragnarok. It's one of my favourite airships of the series, after the Invincible (IX). http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/KujaFFIX/2ea674f6.pngKujaBox 16:59, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Rinoa Leonheart 18:06, February 11, 2011 (UTC)OH YEAH
  13. I love "Ride On"... the Ragnarok's theme is fuckin' awesome, dude!!!Exoesqueleto7 15:59, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Drojanlex 18:07, February 11, 2011 (UTC)Ragnarok
  15.  Kayreeed CaliburnDissicon ff13 Lig122:43, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  16. DFF Cosmos Piece The Final Fantasy DFF Chaos Piece 22:45, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Final Fantasy VIII's Ragnorok. ENOUGH SAID. SquallRocks 22:53, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  18. The Ragnarok runs on the Improbability Drive so its far more awesome. --BlueHighwind 02:16, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
  19. Both of these games suck, but Ragnarok looks 10x cooler.Mr.Beoulve 04:16, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Lord Noctis 04:17, February 12, 2011 (UTC) Ragnarok looks awesome. Celsius...well not so much.
  21. THE GREATEST ATTACK...EVER!!! Razordash 04:21, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
  22. Sorry, Celsius. But Ragnarok is better.  CloudyKrystal Dissicon ff7 Clo2 04:33, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
  23. Have to go for the cooler looking vehicle. President Rufus Shinra 20:34, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
  24. they are both good but ragnarok has the cooler name. geostigmanite 1:58, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
  25. Ragnarok is from the better game, plus it looks cooler. Also, it has the scene with the first renditoin of "Eyes on Me", the best vocal piece in the series. You also have to do most of the game before you get this. MystRay 14:30, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
  26. 8 is my fav game outta the series and the ragnarok is a bajillion times betterBartzKlauserV 18:25, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
  27. Celsius = FFX-2 and Flamboyent Brother. Ragnarok wins. Lord Knight Xiron 03:05, February 14, 2011 (UTC)Lord Knight Xiron
  28. Rictisempra 16:11, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
  29. ケフカパラッツオ 19:39, February 14, 2011 (UTC) In Italy has been accidentaly translated Lagunarock but whatever is its name this airship really rocks
  30. Staggerus15:56, February 14, 2011 (UTC) IT HAZZ LAZARSS!!!
  31. Ragnarok has awesome offenses. If Celsius had the cannons from FFX's Fahrenheit, I'd vote for it instead. CloakedDeception 04:20, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
  32. Despite my love for FFX-2, it's artwork and render is better. If the Celcius was a mini attack for Yuna or something in DD012, I'd vote for that instead. Equa-Chan
  33. Ragnarok duh SkyVanadielWrithe
  34. Looks cooler, got guns, can travel in space, do NOT look like a bike and is from a better game. Name is cooler too
  35. The Rood Inverse 16:05, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
  36. I don't like FF8 or X-2 but Ragnarök references Norse mythology and it is a good weapon in the other gamesUser:L'cieBeast12:39, February 19, 2011
  37. BusterTsurugi2NE1Dissicon ff7 Clo2 07:46, February 20, 2011 (UTC).
  38. Trindadex 17:12, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
  39. GREATEST ATTACK EVER. . . And it goes in space! Blacksnowdog 05:23, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
  40. I like the music Purple lightning 11:35, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
  41. Ltfabretti Dragoon 00:00, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. I love the Ragnarok.. as much as I love the Celsius, the Ragnarok is something nostalgic to me (like the Highwind is for so many others). 24.2.22.202 04:35, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  2. The Ragnarok is essentially a spaceship that can also act as an airship. Plus, it has an intro cutscene that leaves Celsius in its wake(pun). Ragnarok wins!(pwn) 78.110.67.32 04:47, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
  3. The Ragnarok is just found floating out there in space; it's mysterious. Plus, you had to earn that thing! Scurreh aliens is scurreh. --68.169.136.222 12:50, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Votes for the Cyber-Cycle

  1. Wow, first comment! I'd would have to say the Celcius is awesomer and basically its in my favorite FF in the series, Final Fantasy X! You can use it to travel anywhere you want after having control of it and it helped against the fight Evrae aboard it. I also like it because it resembles Fahrenheit, the ship you took to see Tidus at the end of FFX-2. --TerraBranford145322 10:50, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  2. MMLN メーマウリアン 18:04, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Vote for the Illegitimate Love-Child of a Ferrari and a Harley --BiggsandWedge 18:27, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Go Gullwings!!--Xabryn 00:11, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
  5. The temperature scale of which it is named after is more useful to chemists. Mine is clearly the superior reasoning. 8bit 04:41, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Master Conjurer 15:46, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
  7. Because I never got far enough into FFVIII to use the ship, and FFX-2 was great. YKProductions 23:39, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. My votes for the original red spaceship.--24.35.13.235 14:06, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
  2. 65.75.232.250 05:48, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery

First vote for Celsius. Somebody obviously don't see the difference between FFX and X-2, or in this case- Fahrenheit and Celsius. SquallisbetterthanCloud 12:50, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Bad landslide here.  TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun100:15, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Next fight please! SquallRocks 22:44, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
Please don't start that up again. 1, it's early. 2, it's annoying every time. Master Conjurer 16:11, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
3, it does not make the next fight appear earlier. Seriously, it's here when it's here, just show a little patience. MirrorshardSceada 16:16, February 17, 2011 (UTC)
4. The DNC is a shadow of its former glory. Hence why I'm surprised there are still people voting here. 5, I guess would be TA updates when he can.  TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun101:58, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
6 It was a joke...sarcasm is too hard to type. -___- SquallRocks 02:18, February 20, 2011 (UTC)


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