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Uwee hee hee hee! Welcome, editors, to the Dragon's Neck Colosseum! My name is Ultros the receptionist, and each week I'm taking bets as to who will win in a tussle between two characters from the Final Fantasy series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll, really. The Colosseum owner stuck me on this duty after Kefka was defeated, but I need the money! So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

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Functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or whom you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that week. Failure to comply with these rules will likely result in your vote being removed up to being banned from participating in future fights.

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Fight 164: Barret Wallace v. Sazh Katzroy

File:Barret Wallace Nomura art.jpg
 Dnc v
FFXIII-Sazh
WINNER!
Undecided 		Both of these guys are black. They both use guns. They both are a great example of how Japan struggles with breaking stereotypes, but people like both of them for different reasons. WINNER!
Undecided

Votes for Barret

  1. --Leon95 16:42, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  2. One of my favourite characters. He may be a stereotype but he's a loveable one Kisswithatear 17:06, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Barret may be an angry foul mouthed bear in a marshmallow suit, but he can take a beating and give it too. User:skycoston
  4. THE ORIGINAL. Jeffrey or SSFF6B 19:11, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  5. I really don't care about these two, so I'll vote for the side that is currently losing. http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/KujaFFIX/2ea674f6.pngKujaBox 19:59, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Barret is actually completely useful throughout the entire game and his limit breaks will destroy anything ZaleraExdeath 21:49, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  7. Mr.T sez "#@%&" or something like that, cuz dai gotta get off this muthaf***in' train, get me? Also, Mr.T will steal your soul. If he hasn't yet, that's because he is currently stuck in a battle to the death with chuck norris. Get me, foo? Kupohunter FFV gilgamesh 22:01, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  8. People can bash Barret all they want due to 'not having any character development' but for the time when FFVII came out, he had more than enough. I do like Sazh as well, but Barret and his gun-arm are just a little more memorable to me. Kamikaze Pardee 01:10, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Definitely Barret. He's a stronger party member and I think he's much more memorable. Sazh was just ok to me and his most redeeming trait was the chocobo in his 'fro. User:PlasticUfo 21:31, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  10. Lord Noctis 05:04, January 3, 2011 (UTC) His arm is a gun, need I say more?
  11. Take it from him, Mr. B. LC 08:10, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Better game, better story. More hilarious. Legend-wait for it. Hamfruitcake 09 17:38, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  13. He has a gun for an arm. WHAT MORE CAN YOU ASK FOR!!!!SephirothHighwind 22:36, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Dodongray23 11:36, January 4, 2011 (UTC) I'm more familiar with him... :D
  15. Obviously Barret He's a walking tank.HolyTezza13:42, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
  16. I love the XIII but this is getting ridiculous. >:[ Koharu Nami 15:35, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

1. --68.33.26.157 16:42, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Votes for Sazh

  1. 1st :P MMLN メーマウリアン 16:38, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  2. 2nd d: Master Conjurer 16:51, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Chocobo. In. His. HAIR! King of Noobs 16:58, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  4. I never liked Barret. SquallisbetterthanCloud 17:10, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  5. I've never played XIII, but I know that Sazh is better than Barrett. MystRay 18:21, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Never really cared about Barret and Sazh is awesome anyway with his Frocobo (yes I call the chick this way :D ) --RazielZero 18:23, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  7. At least Sazh is well-developed - DFF Cosmos Piece The Final Fantasy DFF Chaos Piece 21:35, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  8. I felt like I had to vote for someone, so... Garlandthunderstorm 19:28, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  9. even Mr.T cant beat the afro Judge Magister Pyarox 21:50, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  10. One of the best developed characters in the series. --ClixPsi 22:18, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  11. I just conquered VII yesterday for the first time, and the only thing I remember about Barret was, "!@@&*$# Shu'up Foo'!" SquallRocks 16:22, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Jimcloud Cloud Chocobo 23:01, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  13. He was supposed to win MMII. BfD t/c 23:50, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  14. BlueHighwind: AFRO. FEAR IT.
  15. I'm almost done with XIII, I'm at Orphans Cradle and I've used Sazh The Entire Time!!  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1 09:26, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  16. The only character that made any emotional impact on me, across the whole of XIII Vegna Gunner 12:51, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  17. No challenge here. A.X.A 14:57, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  18. He's got a Chocobo in his fro and his pistols turn into a freaking rifle! Rictisempra 17:02, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  19. If you need a reason for this vote, feel free to go over the MMII final's comment box. MirrorshardSceada 18:11, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  20. There's a chocobo in his hair. XxRikku-chanxX 20:14, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  21. No brainer. Sazh was my favorite character in XIII, and his development and character are way more fascinating and less racist than Barrett. Nokareon 21:32, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  22. That afro is amazing. bibliomaniac15 22:14, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  23. This, eternally -- Sorceror Nobody 23:00, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  24. AJtwosig 23:05, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  25. I havent play FFXIII,just a little and i go for Sazh,i am more familiar with Barret but i vote for Sazh.More polite character ;a User:Anna Cketo 10:43 January 4,2011 (UTC)
  26. Hard choice, but Sazh for me is just cooler. Plus he keeps a chocobo chick in his afro, and that rocks. Agent0042 21:05, January 4, 2011 (UTC)


Anonymous Votes

  1. 24.2.22.202 Best character in XIII; very well written, his storyline was heartbreaking and realistic.

Peanut Gallery

I suggested this fight! 8D (And then I put it in my arena a while back... >.>) --ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3 17:24, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

That's what you get. ;P Master Conjurer 19:08, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
TA beat me to it. This was going up in the Dragon's Den today o_o  TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun121:10, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
Is there new management in the DNC? Kupohunter FFV gilgamesh 22:01, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
Doubtful Kupohunter. I think TA finally gets it. I'm pretty much abstaining from the DNC from now on. It may have been what drew me to the Wiki, but I moved on. Plus the Dragon's Den is better.  TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun122:37, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

finaly weekly update! :D Judge Magister Pyarox 21:51, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

I honestly don't get this 10% draw rule. If they won, they won. There really is no point for a draw since the dispute isn't over. >_> SquallRocks 16:22, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

The draw rule makes cheating harder. People have complained about it for a long time, but it's been in the rules longer. Master Conjurer 23:19, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Uh..I honestly don't get what's the big deal about Sazh. Can someone explain it to me? Reply on my talk page.Caliburn a.k.a KayReeed 05:31, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Click [[1]] to find out why Sazh is just so cool. King of Noobs 17:38, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Fight 163: Celes Chere v. Oerba Yun Fang

Celes II
 Dnc v
Ff13-fang
WINNER!
DRAW
29 1/2 to 31 		Its a real character versus one from XIII. I really have no idea what the comparison is here. Vote. WINNER!
DRAW
29 1/2 to 31

Votes for Celes

  1. http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/KujaFFIX/2ea674f6.pngKujaBox 21:04, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
  2. My runic will absorb your magic!  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1 21:07, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
  3. Jeffrey or SSFF6B 21:28, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
  4. --ClixPsi 22:26, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
  5. WhiteMateria 22:33, December 24, 2010 (UTC) Celes FTW
  6. ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3 22:40, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
  7. love both these ladies but Celes is hard to beat Judge Magister Pyarox 00:07, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
  8. One of the best ones I think Razordash 00:16, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
  9. Fang's my favourite character in XIII. Celes is my favourite character in VI. VI > XIII, so Celes gets my vote. --Leon95 09:51, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
  10. I thought of Celes as an awesome character from her first appearance in the game, and I'm afraid I haven't played FFXIII yet, so, yeah, I vote Celes. Thorspheric 10:22, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
  11. While I haven't played XIII yet, Xbox is elusive where I live, I do know that Runic was a very useful skill in VI, so my vote goes here. King of Noobs 14:24, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
  12. Both cool but Terra is a personal favorite of mine. President Rufus Shinra 12:02, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
  13. Celes is an outstanding character, one of the best Final Fantasy females, and i haven't played XIII, so my vote is quite obvious here, way to go Celes!. FFVIfan 17:13, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
  14. Fang? Seriously. LC 15:37, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
  15. Cause Celes is a General AND an opera floozie Sleepy phoenix 09:54, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
  16. Because the SquareSoft games are a million times better than that Square-Enix rubbish. 1stclasswarrior 01:19, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
  17. Celes is among my favorite female characters in FF, so she gets my vote. Pikmin Master 15:31, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
  18. She is a strong and beuatiful woman.Thats all there is to it.Lord
  19. She is the best character of Final Fantasy VI. Too bad. I wish I could support the dragoons this time. Discordius Erisianus 01:57, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
  20. My favorite character in ff6! i also favorited her opera scene ★Crescent moon★ 06:27, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
  21. Locke loves her. She's that epic. Need one say more? Apathetic Piggy 10:09, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
  22. Caliburn a.k.a KayReeed 01:57, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
  23. "It's a real character versus one from XIII." Couldn't have said it better myself. Whatever happened to complex/multi-dimensional characters? Masamune 18:50, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
  24. Because she's not some love-starved twit! SquallisbetterthanCloud 20:31, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
  25. runic and she is 1 of the 2 natural magic learners in FF6
  26. Even though XIII looks awesome, I haven't played it yet, and Celes is just epic. MystRay 19:07, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
  27. Everyone, you do know it's about strength, not beauty, right? Celes is the one, as she was given more time to toughen up, hence her 1-year coma in the World of Ruin, she would fight on her way to where Sabin was? Magitek X v0.9 14:52, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
  28. From what I've seen, Fang seems like a good character, but for me, Celes' search for her friends was one ofthe more enjoyable storyline parts of FFVI. Plus, she's a general. 8bit 04:26, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
  29. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 16:27, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. 99.18.129.40 00:36, December 30, 2010 (UTC) I'm suprised that any anon voters are voting after the last fight, but I will assist Celes my 3rd favorite Final Fantasy Character.

Votes for Fang

  1. FIRST! Master Conjurer 20:59, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Fang is the epitome of female badassary. 'Nuff said. Cloudy Krystal 00:24, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
  3. i'm just voting for her out of spite, fanboys are @#!*% me off and they even ruined the description for the battle 00:31, December 25, 2010 (UTC)NeoExdeath
  4. MMLN メーマウリアン 09:23, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
  5. Kamikaze Pardee 20:32, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
  6. My...2nd-ish favorite character ever? She's awesome ok. ¬_¬ Koharu Nami 21:19, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Favorite women? No. Favorite Les? Yes! xD SquallRocks 21:27, December 25, 2010 (Merry Christmas) (UTC)
  8. I HATE YOU CELES !! Regoli 08:41, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
  9. Oh, please, I barley used Celes in VI. Now, Fang, on the other hand, was the boss. Jamiemitsu FTW 21:35, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
  10. Love them both. They're both amazingly badass. Fang has the edge though being a dragoon. Yrl 23:15, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
  11. ZazComet 02:32, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
  12. If only because her costume is consistent from art to ingame, because that inconsistency really @#!*% me off. Also, because <3 her accent. Either way, voting for the better character from the better game. Yes, I said it. Dazuro 02:35, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
  13. Oerba Yun Fang, without a doubt. She rocks in battle, her theme is amazing and I love her personality. I'd tear down the sky to make sure that she wins. Have I mentioned that she's smoking hot? Agent0042 03:03, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
  14. spears beat swords everytime.Balthierfan 10:26, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
  15. Fang is the best battle-wise in final fantasy XIII Purple lightning 11:57, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
  16. Obvious choice. I hate Celes and I really like Fang, she is way better both character and battle wise...and way sexier ;) RazielZero 14:10, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
  17. For teh l'Cie sig. AJtwosig 17:03, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
  18. Rictisempra 19:43, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
  19. Rinoa Leonheart 23:22, December 27, 2010 (UTC) oh YEAH
  20. HereticDante 08:13, December 28, 2010 (UTC)A really tough choice but im gonna have to vote Fang even if a sense of patriotic duty to my countryman/woman is the only deciding factor.
  21. She makes a great opposition to calm and silent Vanille. Her spears makes funny noises and they recombine to three-section-staffs.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 13:25, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
  22. FANGU! :& A.X.A 18:45, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
  23. No78 Fang, because she's an australian lesbian with a lance.
  24. Fang is versatile, and so helpful in battle, and better looking than Celes. Munk451 00:56, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
  25. User:BalthierTheNobody Fang has a strong full ATB skill, she is HOT, and she stole Kain's Lance. 01:30, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
  26. RinneRinne 05:58, December 30, 2010 (UTC) Stronger willpower and sexier to boot, I'm voting for Fang.
  27. BlueHighwind 20:26, December 30, 2010 (UTC) - she was great in Black Swan
  28. -Jay Sherman Quebec 07:52, December 31, 2010 (UTC)I do like both of them, the moment where Locke saves Celes at Kefka's tower was one of my favourite moments in the series but you have to feel sorry for Fang at the end of XIII and since even the description seems to be digging at her im voting for her.
  29. She's a badass lesbian with a cool accent, Bahamut, and her Highwind attack kicks @#!*% . What's not to love? XxRikku-chanxX 01:22, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
  30. --Xepscern 16:26, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. 24.2.22.202 14:14, December 25, 2010 (UTC) The best character in XIII; drop-dead gorgeous with that beautiful accent. As much as I love you Celes, I have to hand it over to my favorite.
  2. Having never played FFVI, I'm biased, but I really do love Fang. She was an essential part of my party, making a good Sentenial and Commando and a decent Ravager. 75.150.82.20 23:00, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
  3. 70.143.81.194 13:45, January 1, 2011 (UTC) Because she is HELLA hot.
  4. Gorgeous, awesome and extremely powerful. Not to mention she has a pretty depressing story and is a Dragoon to boot! #58.111.90.21 13:25, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery

Fang is from FFXIII... o_O --ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3 22:39, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

And called Fang, not Oebra... Hamfruitcake 09 00:07, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
Poor fang...I almost want to vote for her based that the mistake. lol Razordash00:13, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
And it's spelled Oerba, not Oebra... XD. Not to point out your faults or anything, TA Please don't ban me... --ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3 00:15, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
Leave them up, spread the lulz. :) DoreikuKuroofangu - Visit the Soul Shrine! 00:27, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Also for a comparison, I think both were once fighting for the enemy side, but later swopped sides. You can also kinda say that both in some way were traitors at some point. Razordash00:18, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I refuse to vote for this, because its been resolved at MY arena a few weeks ago. Click here to see the record on my archives. and vote at Dragon's Den too! TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun101:18, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I just simply refuse to vote. Long live the boycott!  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 19:47, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
And you know, its sad, because this was my suggestion from like months ago. No wonder everyone made their own arena.  TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun100:43, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
Arma, if you're boycotting the DNC, why do you hang out in the Peanut Gallery? Master Conjurer 04:59, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah. Decent moogles fight overran massively, TA's handling of the championship match at the end was a shambles, and this fight is... less than thrilling. Viva la boycott! Also, MasterConjurer, it's because the Peanut Gallery is where all the cool kids hang out to make sarky remarks and whoring of arenas/tournaments, of course! -- Sorceror Nobody 06:19, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
I didn't actually think this was a bad fight. But as for the handling of the MMII tournament I was horribly disapointed. Razordash 06:23, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
@MasterConjurer: I very rarely comment in the Peanut Gallery. The boycott isn't about not discussing things with fellow users, it's about not voting in the fights until things improve. Or at least, that's what I am doing.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 19:38, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

That's 32 for Fang not 31... (Is it me or TA always votes for the losing side, in this case making it a draw instead a win for Fang, since the math would say it's Fang...) --RazielZero 18:32, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

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