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Uwee hee hee hee! Welcome, editors, to the Dragon's Neck Colosseum! My name is Ultros the receptionist, and each week I'm taking bets as to who will win in a tussle between two characters from the Final Fantasy series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll, really. The Colosseum owner stuck me on this duty after Kefka was defeated, but I need the money! So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

The Rules, Briefly

Functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that week.

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Any failure to adhere to these rules will result in your vote(s) being removed. Ties may be called if the victor won by a margin of 10% or less.

Week 125: BAD FIGHT WEEK V

Penelo v. Rikku

Penelo dancing
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Rikku Poster
WINNER!
Undecided 		Many hate them, some love them, some can't really remember them. Which girl is more popular/less annoying?

Votes for Penelo

  1. I guess I feel pity? Hey, Penelo was an awesome mage. ...And she wasn't a crazy hyperactive teenager. ClixPsi
  2. People keep thinking that plot relevance equates to how annoying a character is. Yes, Pen wasn't important. Yes, the story could have gone the same without her but she's not annoying little girl. She's actually pretty down-to-earth. Vaan is also in the same boat as her, no way near as bad as people make him out to be. The A-Man
  3. I am proud to say Penelo was in my party During The Game. Ultima The High Seraph 17:57, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. I like them both. Therefore, I'm working to even it out.--Werefang 19:13, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. CookiePinguy 22:34, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. I have more interest to Penelo. Kuzlalala Squee! 04:17, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  7. Hearing Rikku's voice makes my ears bleed. At least Penelo could run around with an axe and kill things. Or, y'know, use magic like she was intended for...anyway, this is more a vote against Rikku than for Penelo. Bangaa Red Mage 06:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. Penelo wasn't half as bad as people make her out to be. "Riven" 89.195.66.70 16:36, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. First off, Penelo has a better voice. Second, I actually USED her. Rikku annoyed me...a lot.173.50.0.132 23:45, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Votes for Rikku

  1. Barely. ScatheMote 15:38, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Penelo is useless. --StragusLore 16:23, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. At least Rikku is hot. Drake Clawfang 17:09, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. They both annoy, but Rikku hot.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 18:29, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. Rikku has a personality, Penelo does not. Hamfruitcake 09 18:34, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. I will not comment on X-2, but in X rikku was great. She was useful because of mix, she was very plot relevant, and she changed the course of the game once her intentions became clear. Rikku was a great character. Penelo is rather bland. She's not bad, but she rather than being down to earth she doesn't bring much to the table. ChaosEsperVII
  7. There's... --Gamer2127 00:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  8. Template:BfDsig
  9. This one's easy! I love Rikku, I hate Panelo, as CSM calls her. Violet mage
  10. Such an unfair choice. I go with Rikku simply because my girlfriend and I cosplayed Tidus and Rikku over the weekend TheBlueDragoon 05:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  11. Just coz she's funny as hell in X-2. CheeseNinja 06:55, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. Rikku was voiced by Tara Strong. Need to say more?
  2. Rikku is less annoying than penelo, also a better character

Peanut Gallery

As a fan of both these ladies, I'm proud to say that I cannot decide between the two. Penelo is actually a down-to-earth girl who has lost more than her parents and has the guts to keep Vaan in line. As for Rikku, she may be hyper-active but she's actually very protective of her people and her beliefs. Sure, X-2 kinda ruined her but still. I'll decide when the time comes.--Cluna 06 18:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not going to vote to the most empty character in the series and in many other RPGs. If were the FFX's Rikku, maybe she would get my vote. But never for the idiot for-fapers character she becomed in FFX-2. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 19:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Great. Another one I can't decide. Penelo has great mage stats, and like Vaan I don't hate her like other people inexplicably do. Rikku is one of my favourite "bubbly ditzes" and while she can be annoying, that's usually taken as a given for Nomura's bubbly ditzes. Both are pretty hot, though Rikku is more so. Sure X-2 made Rikku less likeable, but at least it didn't make her less useful like Revenant Wings did to Penelo. But then Penelo is classed as a viera in TA2, which trumps all. This is too difficult... too many conflicting issues... can't make up mind... -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 19:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, what the hell. And to anon's vote nº1 for Rikku: Yes, you have to sign. Zak Undersn 20:53, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, this one is a hard one to decide. Penelo has FFXII's battle system, which makes it impossible (or close to) to say that a particular character sucks in battle because it's not their fault, it's yours. Rikku is the better looking of the two, but she was my weakest character in both the games she was in (in all fairness, Penelo is my weakest in FFXII, but not in FFXIIRW), and thiefs aint that good. I'll probably vote after I have thought on it some more.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 00:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Rydia v. Garnet Til Alexandros XVII

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WINNER!
Undecided 		Two of the series' most beloved summoners from two of the more old-fashioned game. Their peculiar taste in clothing aside, which of these ladies can summon the victory?

Votes for Rydia

  1. It's Rydia, the best summoner in the series, versus Garnet, the worse summoner in the series. Also, black magic>white magic. ClixPsi
  2. Does this surprise anyone? Seriously, does my voting for Rydia shock anyone at all? Drake Clawfang 17:09, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. I kinda like both, but at least Rydia has enough MP to summon to begin with, and she also has a voice in a DS version. So cheers.--Cluna 06 18:22, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. I like green hair girls.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 18:29, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. Both are lovely & awesome and I like them, but Rydia is Rydia. As a battling character and as a character herself, she is much better than Garnet. BTW, Garnet isn't the worse summoner in the series, Yuna has that title. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 19:08, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. Favorite character from IV. ChaosEsperVII
  7. CookiePinguy 22:35, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  8. Meh.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 00:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  9. Sorry Garnet but Rydia has me WHIPPED! Xlatinsorax 03:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  10. Kuzlalala Squee! 04:16, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  11. Do I really need to say anything. It's Rydia, the ORIGINAL summoner. TheBlueDragoon 05:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  12. I...just don't like royalty. (Reads own vote below) Royalty that don't use crossbows or chainsaws. Bangaa Red Mage 06:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. Garnet, you know I love you babe, but I just can't vote against my Rydia. This was definitely the hardest fight in the DNC to decide upon as I love both of their characters, but like I said I just can't vote against Rydia. She's such a little badass.71.187.79.22 16:29, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Votes for Garnet

  1. ScatheMote 15:38, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. I like both. I was introduced to Garnet through IX first. --StragusLore 16:23, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. After a certain point in IV Rydia becomes less cool. At least Garnet can be taken out of your party eventually. Also, She can use Black Magic instead? Big Deal. If she were a Male Summoner Character that would be interesting. Anony
  4. Faethinte audio has never actually understood what's all the hype about Rydia.
  5. The Princess has a more interesting story IMO plus her haircut is much cuter. Hamfruitcake 09 18:35, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. I like both Rydia and Garnet, but Garnet's character is more developed. Zak Undersn 20:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  7. a... --Gamer2127 00:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  8. Template:BfDsig
  9. Mmm...another fight I feel bad about voting in because I haven't played FFIV yet (next on my list, though). I thought that Garnet was a strong heroine though, so aye. Violet mage
  10. Garnet doesn't need remakes to make her awesome. And besides, Ark pwns... nuff said. CheeseNinja 06:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. I vote Garnet. But Rydia was cool too. Even though i think she becomes a bit less interesting once grown up. Garnet is a constantly evolving character, and that's why she gets my vote!
  2. She was cool
  3. I liked Rydia she as hot, but garnet had style and she was useful at the start unlike rydia who was only good near the end. and ClixPsi can suck it.

Peanut Gallery

Well Fae, why do you like Quistis? Drake Clawfang 18:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't really know. I think it was a character I kind of related to back when I first played VIII. I've always thought that she did good with what little time she was given before Squall and Rinoa took over. That and I've always liked smart girls with glasses. Faethinte audio 04:38, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Ah, interesting response. Drake Clawfang 05:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Both are over rated. Not voting.--Werefang 19:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I shall make teh fanboys butthurt when I say Rydia has about as much importance as a blade of grass. Oh, and she spent her puberty in furryland. Template:BfDsig

Yikes, it seems like I pissed off someone. Sorry, but Eiko's the better summoner in FFIX. Since summons need their full-animation to deal full power in IX (which was fairly rare), Dagger's attack summons just didn't have the impact necessary to make up for the MP cost. Eiko, on the other hand, had a full set of White Magic and hade some good support summons. If this was Rydia versus Eiko, then I might go with Eiko due to her being an overall useful character. Plus, at least Rydia didn't have a random silent effect mid-game like Dagger. Just what we need, a mage that can't use magic. ClixPsi

Edgar Roni Figaro v. Balthier

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File:Balthier.jpg
WINNER!
Undecided 		They can charm the ladies with their looks and thrash enemies with a barrage of bullets and bolts. Which of these dashing dons is the true leading man?

Votes for Edgar

  1. You thought I was going to vote for Balthier. ScatheMote 15:38, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. At least he isn't a Han Solo ripoff. --StragusLore 16:23, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Paraphrasing that last voter. He isn't a LAME Han Solo Ripoff. Nah, Balth is cool, just not that cool he IS from XII after all. Edgar's got him beat in all categories. Besides Sabin>Fran as a related character. AnonyMan
  4. Faethinte audio loves the Figaro Chainsaw massacre guy.
  5. Balthier is the only character I really like from XII, but he's too much stereotypical and Edgar is too much Edgar. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 19:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. Why would I vote for Balthier? Zak Undersn 20:57, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  7. CookiePinguy 22:35, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  8. ......."How old are you?"....... Sorry Balthier but Edgar just stole the show. I always had him in my party while Balthier was eventually replaced by Fran in my party in XII. Plus VI>>>>>>>XII! Xlatinsorax 03:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  9. Chainsaw. CHAINSAW! Also, you could change Edgar's goofy name...not so with Balthier. Besides, I always viewed Edgar as a Drill-toting Archer, and...I like archers. Bangaa Red Mage 06:30, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. Oh, c'mon!! Il Signore Edgar Roni Figaro vs THAT?!! And I thought my jokes were bad!

Edgar is quite clearly superior, and from a superior game.

Votes for Balthier

  1. Best part of FFXII. ClixPsi
  2. Ditto that. Drake Clawfang 17:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. He was also in my party. Ultima The High Seraph 17:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. He has some of the best lines in XII, aside from Basch.--Cluna 06 18:12, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. I vote for the leading man.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 18:29, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. Balthier has something more substantial about him in a game where the characters were mostly forgettable. plus if it were a fight he'd surely win. Hamfruitcake 09 18:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  7. Much as I do think Edgar is great, I like the Leading Man more. But why isn't he wearing his hat? -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 19:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  8. Really? He's a sky pirate. ChaosEsperVII
  9. pattern. --Gamer2127 00:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  10. What the heck does Edgar fight with again?  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 00:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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  12. I love both of them to pieces, but I love Balthier more. Sorry Edgar :(. I'm a sucker for Gideon Emery's sweet, sweet accent. Violet mage
  13. I'm voting for this guy, especially if his hair reminds me of someone at his game (chuckles) Kuzlalala Squee! 04:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  14. Because this one doesnt need to try to get he chicks. Leon5550 05:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  15. I vote for the leading man, who else? TheBlueDragoon 05:47, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  16. Sabin > Balthier > Edgar CheeseNinja 06:52, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. Who wouldn't want the leading man on their side? "Riven" 89.195.66.70 16:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Easily the best character in XII
  3. Final Fantasy VI is my favorite game, and Edgar is one of my favorite characters of that game. However, it's just...it's Balthier! I don't know what else to say. Balthier would be able to pick up ANY woman with his suave demeanor and slick speech. Plus, he's the leading man. Sorry, Edgar. You've been outclassed.173.50.0.132 23:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery

Am I the only one who doesn't see any similarity to Han Solo in Balthier.--Werefang 02:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

No I'm not seeing the link either I have to admit. Rivenous 04:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


It took me a while, but I just realized that I suggested this fight! I can't believe it made it through! I would have picked Bathier if it wasn't for the fact that he was the ONLY character that was worthwhile in XII. Edgar was great, but it was made even greater with his connection to everyone else *cough*Sabin*cough*! By the way, I think I might start a fanboy brawl with my vote.... Xlatinsorax 03:47, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Week 124: Garland v. The Emperor

Garland psp
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Emperor psp
WINNER!
Garland
43 1/2 to 33 1/2 		Before they were sta... ultra-villains, which of these ancient foes would emerge victorious, and by ancient... I do mean I and II.
Garland psp

Votes for Garland

  1. He somehow manipulated time to turn himself into a demon. I may not know much about the older FF games, but I'm sold.Neo Bahamut 04:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Garland got a huge sword and he's Chaos.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 05:12, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. FFII is my least favorite game...easy decision...BoAKaNRikkusmallsig 05:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Garland has my vote for being both the first boss and first final boss in the series. You just can't beat a guy who screws with time just to become a demon. TheBlueDragoon 05:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. When was the last time Mateus knocked anyone down? Thought so. Drake Clawfang 05:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. Garland can knock anyone down! And what's Mateus most famous for? Easy. UBOAR!!! --Cluna 06 06:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  7. I dont know what's the fight's about, but I see Garland zapping/pointing at the Emperor who seems to be running like a chick on fire. I'm voting for The Zapper. Leon5550 07:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  8. Destriker73 07:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  9. What is it that makes a game... the game's villain... you don't even know that its Garland behind everything until the very end, which is where he turns himself into a codpiece wearing demon that can and will '...knock you all down!'Hydronisa
  10. The irony is, it's your fault he got his power. Because you almost killed him, the fiends sent him back in time so that he could get the power to send them forward in time.--Werefang 11:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  11. Just listen to his first line in this [1], his Dissidia voice alone is the reason I'm voting for him.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 12:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  12. BlueHighwind ツ: I vote for the one with the cooler hat.
  13. Another evil Emperor vs. the man who can knock you all down?! I don't think so.Immune to stop 14:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  14. Vampyro entertaiment 14:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC) He wears an evil armor, he has a sword that is a whip and a axe and everything in the between, he sounds evil, he messed with time before ultimecia was even born and most importantly: The emperor? I, Garland will knock you down!
  15. Garland's a legend! Plus the Emperor looks like a girl! Jeppo (Talk)
  16. Sword-chucks, yo. Template:BfDsig
  17. Knight beats mage .User:clvabl
  18. He will knock you...eh, whatever. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 16:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  19. I just like himThe6thangel 17:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  20. Rinoa leonheart 19:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)"hes older FF WOW good luck O YA
  21. Both of them had about the same affect on me, so I'll cast my vote for the game's original villain. JohnnyC
  22. GA-RAN-DO! Garland looks WAY cooler. --Zack fair 007 20:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  23. never played II - D - E - R - U - M -
  24. Garland was the first boss and villian, and he was a better villain than "The Emperor" User:Copario
  25. Bruntie2 15:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC) The Emporer never seemed very frightening...
  26. FinalAnnihilator 16:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  27. Come on, its Garland. Who else has the power to "Knock you all down". Certainly not Emperor Mateus.User:Terra Branford
  28. He, Garland, will knock the Emperor down! Silver Dragon XXVIII 21:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  29. For the voice(s)! And the AWESOME SWORD!! 1stclasswarrior 23:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  30. Because Garland is not GHEY. Silas Harvey
  31. Well I'm not sure but I'm not seeing Mateus knock anyone down like Garland has. User:NoctisoftheNight
  32. I Don't know either of these two villians well so I'm choosing Garland as he he has an awesome looking cape FinalFantasyAerith
  33. This isnt even a contest...ff2 had more of a plot...but it just didnt do it for me... User:Maze guy, the creator
  34. Kuzlalala Squee! 13:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
  35. Easy pick, Garland was the first and the best... up untill FF4 atleast. Neosamuel
  36. He can cook, Summon, Lead, Morph, Kidnap, Time Travel, Scheme, and even sail poorly. I think the jack of all trades could take over hell if he wanted to, but he just never got to it. --Gerdat14 21:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
  37. Mmm...dunno if I should vote in this fight, since I haven't played FFI or FFII yet. But Garland looks like he can kick my ass, so aye. Violet mage 21:37, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
  38. MechaUltimaZero 21:42, 28 June 2009 (UTC) I, MechaUltimaZero, shall knock you all down and f**k you up!!!
  39. Number 1, he has many more appearances than the Emperor, and is always kick-ass. Number 2, he goes from the weakest boss you face to the embodiment of evil itself. COME ON!! P.S. His voice for English Dissidia just takes the cake! Xlatinsorax 03:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  40. HE, GARLAND WILL KNOCK YOU DOWN. Seriously, he can use magic AND wield a huge sword, and when I mean huge, it's bigger than Cloud Strife's. Had a more vicious plot up his sleeve, and sells his soul to darkness? That's who I would want to knock down. Mask no Oni 23:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
  41. It's Garland, how could I not vote for him? Even if the emperor has more of a personality, it reminds me of Star Wars far too much xD Garland is just classic, he is THE classic villain. Yzz 12:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
  42. R-o-b-s-t-a-r

Anonymous Votes

  1. Garland's classic... plus I'm pretty sure Garland would destroy the Emperor in a fight. 206.248.109.31 02:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Garland is so great he started all of the final fantasy series and all of the villans are based off of him 206.248.109.31 12:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Garland because he will knock you down #72.23.69.192 09:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Votes for the Emperor

  1. I would sacrifice my rights to have someone as badass as Mateus as Emperor. Eric Ryan Jones 04:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. I like Garland, but Mateus is just more of a badass. He died, went to hell, and TOOK OVER. User:Nevanus 08:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. I have to vote for the guy who nearly conquered the world, then used his death as an excuse to conquer both heaven and hell. He's got some good lines too.--Otherarrow 09:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. FFII was better IMO and Emperor had more lines. - ロル Lol Cakes オケス 09:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Garland's cool in theory, but the original game does little with him (Dissidia expands him). However, the Emperor was pretty badass to begin with, and the GBA remake made him even better. Sure, he's got a huge weak spot, but Mateus still looks threatening in with that eye liner. ClixPsi
  6. Im not a fan of bad guys wearing masks and armour Mr_Darkside 10:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  7. He was able to summon demons from hell, without supernatural powers!!! Silver Mage 10:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  8. Voting for Mateus Dachimotsu7734 10:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  9. The Emperor gets my vote for his dashing looks as well as his awesome angelic form in Soul of Rebirth.SamSandy 10:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  10. Garland was never all that interesting to begin with. Mateus was awesome from the start, he did massive amounts of damage and he took over hell. I also prefer II over I for it's story.--StragusLore 12:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  11. UBOAAAAAAAAAAR! - Henryacores^ 12:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  12. Is this "Garland" an Emperor? I think not. The.DreadnoughT 13:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  13. ScatheMote 13:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  14. As awesome as Garland is, he never actually knocked anyone down. The Emperor, on the other hand, although looking like a camp David Bowie, can lay traps in Dissidia, and becomes the supreme ruler of hell. instant win, even though I haven't played II. Yet. Jamiemitsu 14:19, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  15. Because I've really wanted to make the joke "Im in ur well, poizning ur Wyverns." Plus he had a nice straight forward plan. Garland's time loop still confuses me a bit.--Muchomas35 14:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  16. His deathcry Ubooooaarrr!!! alone makes him awesome!! The best version so far is in Shade Impulse 42 - 51!!! ahahaha... OnionKnight23
  17. I love Mucho's comment. Both are good villains, elaborate ruses and all that, but the Emperor's Hell/Heaven splitting was ingenious. His battle sprite and quotes as the Light Emperor is what makes him better than Garland, for me: If you will not have eternal life, I will give you eternal suffering! 8bit 15:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  18. Garland has a whole lotta history implied but does bugger all in the game. The Emperor DOES stuff, evil stuff. Nirvana Phoenix
  19. BlueLionheart Cloudy Wolf (T/C) 17:39, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  20. It's even, so i'm throwing it to the Emperor because he was technically more badass being a threat through the game. Hamfruitcake 09 19:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  21. I found the fight against Emperor more challenging, althought I do like FFI more than FFII... So he is getting my vote. MMLN メーマウリアン 20:12, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  22. I'm with Mateus, maybe because he actually knocked someone down. Maybe because UBOAR reminds me of Yume Nikki. Maybe because he's manly even wearing heels. Don't know the exact reason, but I'm with him. Forgive me, Garland. Zak Undersn 20:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  23. My vote goes to The Fashionable Emperor. Karu
  24. Oh, come on. Garland is to Palamecia as Farrah Faucet's death is to Michael Jackson's. Oops. Was that too soon, America? --Tacochickenwings 16:01, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  25. Maybe Garland made some sort of grand entrance in the realms of villains by being the first villain of the FF saga and the first one to play with time (and thus being the first one to make players realize that all their hard work leveling and such served for absolutely nothing). But the Emperor was a the first true villain, he didn't want to just conquer one kingdom or cheat death, he wanted everything, he basically even wanted to die just to take over Heaven and Hell. That guy's greediness in man form. Plus Kefka took after him in basically everything (and improving it but still the bases were from Palamecia) which also adds points to the Emperor. Despite the UBOAR and the general dislike I've for FFII.Celythia
  26. i dont know whats with the sprite, it looks deform so thats one point and 2nd point for it is a FF2 character.GRIEVER POWER 11:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  27. Blykus 20:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  28. I would have to go with Mateus. He was the first villan to have a personality, albeit one of the utmost cruelty, malice, and calculation, which culminated into an arcane desire for mastery of not just Earth, but the afterlife as well. Much better than Garland's malpropism. ApatheticAngel
  29. I love both of them, but i will vote The Emperor, such underrated villain on such underrated game. CookiePinguy 08:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
  30. Gamewise, FF1 clearly wins. Villainwise, Mateus beats Garland for being a crazy megalomaniac and a killer. - User:Aquamarine39


Anonymous Votes

  1. Ooh, this one's a bit of a tough one. On the one hand, Garland gained the powers of Chaos and made a time loop that caused him to become effectively immortal. On the other hand, Emperor Mateus died, went to Hell, apparently booted the previous head out, and unleashed Hell on Earth (or whatever the world would be called). I'm going with the Emperor on this one because while he may not have been technically immortal, he certainly had more potential to destroy the world if left alone. Garland was stuck in that time loop and really couldn't do a damn thing about it besides run through the process again and again and again...173.50.0.39 18:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Emperor is much stronger than Garland. 124.179.241.69 06:04, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Sure, Garland is the first Final Fantasy villain, but he doesn't accomplish much more than creating some time loop. The Emperor on the other hand, plunges the world into darkness. He expands his empire, killing all those who oppose him. He wipes out several towns in his mad bid for power. And he takes over Hell. Come on now. You can't get much more badass than that. Plus, he is downright evil to the core, as even his "good" side, is as evil as his bad side, just much more manipulative.96.242.165.2 00:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Mateus is what Kefka wants to be when he grow up. He did everything Kefka did, but unlike the overrated-clown, he didn't stop at dead. He continued conquering, and took over Hell and Heaven! Everyone who likes the clown, should be voting on the Emperor.189.32.113.202
  5. Cause he's got the looks xDD 84.226.108.176 13:32, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. 74.72.39.163 02:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)The Emperor can take over hell and heaven single handed, while all Garland did was create a Time Paradox to get Chaos in him...Making Chaos basically looking like Ultimecia...So that's why my vote goes to the Ruler of the Palamecian Empire.
  7. A man who can take over Heaven, Hell and Earth too for the most part, all whilst wearing heels deserves respect! Besides, I think the world could do with a few less "Knock you all down" comments. "Riven" 89.195.147.91 02:27, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery

Meh. Still not very interested in this fight, but at least it was easy to pick which one to vote for.Neo Bahamut 04:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I know what you mean Neo. But at least its a good fight to sit and watch. TheBlueDragoon 05:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I guess, but I can't participate as much in discussion...the good kind. Although, it just occured to me to wonder: What do they do with Garland in Dissidia? They obviously can't have him becoming Chaos.Neo Bahamut 10:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I wondered the same thing. I didn't really follow Dissidia too much yet, as far as story goes. I wanted to be surprised, but you do make a good point. TheBlueDragoon 18:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Garland is just Garland and Chaos is a separate being. The best game to compare it to is actually Nintendo's Super Smash Bros.; a massive marketing gimmick with everyones "favorite FF characters". It's basically an excuse plot and can't be taken as canon, anyway.--Werefang 23:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I think the comparison of Dissidia and SSB has been cliched. Its a very accurate comparison, and we all know its not canon, but its so cliche. Anyway, point is, we all know that in Dissidia Garland and Chaos are two separate entities. TheBlueDragoon 00:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Are you sure? ;P They preety much say that they are the same. "You and me are the same" and "We share the same destiny" and of course their FFI roots. Time paradoxes is nothing new in fiction. CookiePinguy 08:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Don't know them "in game" so I'm not going to vote, but at least both are interesting characters. And well, I don't like so much the newer games, so I enjoy seeing battles between old games. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 14:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I got a funny joke..."UBOAR!!!"- Emperor, knowing he is going to lose against Garland in this DNC fight. 'Nuff said. --Cluna 06 06:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I just knew, that you will pull a "UBOAR!!!" joke in this fight.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 06:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

You Spoony Bard! TomServo101 07:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

You should've called this fight: "I, Garland, will knock you all down!" vs. "OBOAR!" and have people vote on what's the cheesiest of the two! Jeppo (Talk) 14:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't really know who to vote for. The one made his way into the past to send the Four Fiends into the future, wo will grant himself the power to travel back in time to send them to the future to grant himself etc., and the other died and took over Heaven&Hell. They are just too freaking awesome. If the votes were a bit more reasonable this would be fun to watch.Zak Undersn 15:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm noticing a lot of unsigned anonymous votes again. Do we need another reminded? Please sign your votes with four tildes. TheBlueDragoon 23:04, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

One, used the help of 4 demons to create a time-loop that doesn't make sense. The other, destroyed the world and took over Hell and Heaven. Wow, that was "hard" to decide.

But the former made the latter his bitch in Dissidia. CheeseNinja 03:25, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Although i prefer Garland to most of the other villians thanks to 8-bit Theater, the Emperor did do a lot more than garland and really qualifies as the better villian. Also, DO THE ALREADY SCHEDULED FIGHTS EVEN COUNT ANYMORE?!?!?! --Gerdat14 21:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Clearly, not. I lost faith on the suggestions and rules last week. Zak Undersn 19:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

God bless BlueHighwind, for quite possibly the simplest voting requirement of all time. MechaUltimaZero 21:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Garland is kicking some ass. Maybe I should have voted for the Emperor.... TheBlueDragoon 05:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Lots of people seem to forget the difference between saying something and doing something. That's funny, huh. Zak Undersn 09:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

The quote that launched Forty Five Votes...He was all talk and no business, but I guess it was all, as people say, "For the lulz,". 74.72.39.163 02:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually...it's only forty-two votes at the moment; unsigned votes don't count. The.DreadnoughT 16:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Ya know, this fight can easily be settled by playing a Garland vs Emperor round in Dissidia: Final Fantasy... --76.105.192.47 10:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not a Dissidia contest. You know? Zak Undersn 12:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry to be an ass, but that was a foolish comment to make. TheBlueDragoon 21:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
What a pity :) Zak Undersn 09:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
That wasn't directed at you Zak. It was to the anonymous comment. TheBlueDragoon 16:49, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Fuck you, o my paranoia. *shakes fist* Zak Undersn 20:11, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

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