Votes for Aeris
- OMG I'm the first voter! Difficult one, but it has to be Aeris. Yuna never made as much impact on me as Aeris – although to be fair, VII was my first FF, and Yuna doesn't die. Also, Aeris never whored herself out (damn near literally) in a sub-standard sequel -- Sorceror Nobody
 22:22, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- SilverCrono 22:29, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- I like them both, and this is hard for me. But Aeris died; Yuna didn't. Now, Aeris is more powerful then Yuna. So, using that logic, Aeris > Yuna. Simple as that. A.J. two (Smashboards)
- Doreiku Kuroofangu 22:49, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry Yuna, but as much as I like you and your real game (not that shit sequel) I have to vote for Aerith because she's my ideal girl. TheBlueDragoon 22:54, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Despite a certain level of contempt to to VII Distaste. I like the upbeat spunky(Not like Yuffie or Rikku) girls. Yuna's too demure, bland and even after her personality is still not as interesting and she forgot how to dress properly to boot. AnonyMan 23:21, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- My girlfriend LOVES Aeris and HATES YunaHolyHighwind
- I may've voted for Yuna, but they put that bloody Gunner picture of her, alluding to that nightmare of a sequel. My vote goes to the girl who got stabbed by a REALLY big sword. King of Noobs 00:37, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Better theme song. Moocowisi 00:58, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Rinoa Leonheart 02:45, May 18, 2010 (UTC) Aerith O YEAH
- Aerith all the way. She will always be a better healer than Yuna. And yeah, she DIED so that we could save the planet from Sephiroth. Definite winner for me. makoenergy99
- HATE, HATE ,HATE, and HATE Yuna in FF X-2!!!... User:Mid555
- ClixPsi 03:49, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- NeoZEROX 04:12, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Faethinte audio : She belongs here with us, though the Earth cries inside her.
- Aerith died, yet still lives, she was able to call upon both HOLY and the LIFESTREAM against a meteor that almost destroyed the planet, she was also able to heal GEOSTIGMA, i think Aerith is the ultimate White Mage, and a match such as this, i think she could outlast Yuna's summons and anything she can throw at her. User:OmnislashVII
- Mmh... though decision for me. They both have traits that are appealing to me, like Aerith being able to fight even after death, and Yuna having her Aeons, which are really great, so it's hard to decide, who to vote for. They even share the same theme of longing for someone beloved they lost! But since Yuna just kinda accepted Tidus disappearance and continued to live on, and Aerith actually wrote a total of 89 letters to Zack, believing he'd come back one day... Aerith.MirrorshardSceada 07:07, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Minns luvz youzz Aeris !!Bjarnster 07:44, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I liked Yuna much better as a party member, but Aerith more as a character. King Nothing Where's your crown? 11:20, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I liked Aeris more because of her character traits and Yuna was too...bland for me.User:Sephiroth gainsborough 08:39, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Because I think Aerith has a greater impact in the game than Yuna? --Phfvikkaa 13:08, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- FFX-2. Everything from X-2 deserves to die Tonberi Shadou 13:40, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- The Rood Inverse Though I like them both, storiwise and powerwise, I like Aerith the moste. The fact that she died and the fact of FFX-2 are the factors that sement my vote.
- Aerith by a mile. Yuna was too much of a "Mary-Sue" for me in FFX AND FFX-2. Not only that, but Aerith was stronger IMO. She was happy and upbeat but not too happy and perky. (For all those that didn't know who or what a Mary-Sue is, it's basically a character that is presented with no flaws at all and she's the talk of the whole game setting, or is at least very famous and that everyone likes her. They usually have two or more males fighting over her.) HayleeLOL 15:06, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry. The Man In The Black Cape 15:10, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- the only reason that I'm voting for Aeris here is that Yuna's picture is from X-horrible-2 SquallisbetterthanCloud 15:31, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm blatently voting for me (does that even count?) FinalFantasyAerith 16:28, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- What can I say, I got the hots for Aerith... I love You Aerith!! ♥♥♥ BboyMogFile:Z yoshimitsu1.gif 16:16, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Two letters X-2 ... Well a letter and a number. X-2 ruined Yuna's reputation ... And Yuna in booty shorts is sick and wrong in so many ways and on so many levels--KiraArik 16:44, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Sunpanda2012 18:58, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Gotta vote for Aerith. I simply like Aeris better than Yuna. I'm listening to Aeris' Theme right now. Have I said Aerith enough for you to realize that I'm randomizing her name? Aerith Aeris Aeris. Silver Dragon XXVIII 19:41, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- JFHavoc 19:54, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I'll simply compare their most impressive memorable moments. Most White Mages have saved a party a few times; Aeris saved a whole planet and did it (spoiler alert- and we all know which one, right?) while she was dead. Yuna's most impressive such moment was the Trigger Happy backflip in X-2, but despite this, Vincent is still the best Gunner in the series- Yuna fired two full mags for each Tiny Bee (one before and one during the backflip) and didn't hit Ormi OR Logos; had Vincent done that, Ormi's and Logos' heads would've resembled Swiss cheese. So, in case it's still unclear, Aeris wins that. (If it'd been spelled Aerith, however, I would likely have voted for Yuna.) The.DreadnoughT 20:39, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- She is a better character. A more believable personality, instead of the perfect Yuna. And notice that having a great foe ahead of you does not equal throwing your life away. Too bad she was the one that was killed. Discordius 04:28, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Regoli 17:01, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- User:Cloudgauntlet Aeris had so much more personality than Yuna. Yuna was just the typical softspoken, boring white mage type (I know she was a summoner), whereas Aeris was spunky, fiery and mischievous, and just seemed way more real. I agree that she was more believable over the oh-so-perfect Yuna, who everybody instantly loved. Plus later on Yuna's whole life revolved around one guy and she turned into a slutty lovelorn teenager when Aeris was a billion times more mature, and always knew that she would have to sacrifice herself even though she wanted to stay with Cloud and her other friends. Oh and Aeris/Cloud? Was implied, not made so obvious as Yuna and Tidus... not to mention, how could someone fall for someone as irritating as Tidus? Sure Yuna can summon but she ended up choosing NOT to sacrifice herself whereas Aeris was willing to if it meant that shecould help the world. Not to mention, VII is by FAAAAAR the superior game.
- Hey, I just so happened to be on TV Tropes a moment ago! "Name Aerith (Aeris for purists, not that it matters since she's being renamed) "Bullseye". When Sephiroth goes surprise-stab-flying-down on her, Cloud will look up, raise a fist to the air and scream "BULLSEYE!"" Yesz! YESZ! 尾藤 来夢 19:05, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Only one of the 2 I know. Nothing to do with that particular event. TARDISES 21:02, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Because of Zack. Zack! Mynameissora 02:10, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- Although I hope this turns out to be a tie, Aeris and her game have made such a huge impact in my life that I have to go with the Cetra. Still love Yuna in FFX, though! NeoSeth 13:35, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- Because she's pretty much my Final Fantasy. =P Kamikaze Pardee 23:56, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm having trouble picking, so I'll just give it to the one with less votes.Neo Bahamut 23:53, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
- I've always like Aeris better. I used to hate Yuna a lot too, but after playing FFX, she grew on me. But here, I have to go with Aeris. I hated Yuna's voice acting, no offense to the voice actor. Mishaxshia 17:47, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
- I'd like to say this was an easy choice, but it wasn't. They're both excellent characters. Masamune
- Well, since Yuna can't fully restore the party's HP and MP, remove all negative status effects, and make them temporarily invincible -all in one move-, I'm gonna' have to go with Aerith on this one. Besides, she wasn't nearly as whiny as Yuna. GenjiMasamune
- I love both characters, but Aerith is just special to me - and not only 'cause I kinda look like her. ^___- <3 <-- Plus she got two awesome guys to like her! Hytey 17:04, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
- She's both prettier and stronger, after all what could yuna's guns do against great gospel? Badag 17:29, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
- X-2 trampled on almost everything I liked about Yuna, so I'm going with the dead one here. Besides, her theme is wonderful! Apathetic Piggy 20:54, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
- I love Aeris, and despise Yuna. As simple as that. SamSandy 21:53, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
- recinoWow a match I sugested about a year ago finaly got in. Lol. Anywho, AERIS(never "Aerith") and Yuna both have the potential in the games they came from to be super powerfull depending on the matiria/sphers they have. So this becomes a fight of who I liked better. - And since Aeris had a beautiful death a kick ass theam and she can hold her own in a fight V.s. Yuna who would die off insatly without her party/girl squad my vote goes to the magic girl of FFVII
- 8bit 00:35, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
- OK, when a woman can dish out the invincible, the full heal, and Holy, do you really think you can stand in her way? Durai Judgement 19:32, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
- I happen to like both of these heroines but I think I like Aerith more. She is sweet, funny and dosen't have a bad voice actor to bring her down. That and X-2 is an abomination to Final Fantasy.--StragusLore 09:01, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Granted, she is from the most overrated videogame of all time, but hey, it's better than some useless character. Fanboy war, anyone? SSFF6B 23:09, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Aerith doesn't whore her self out on a knock-off charlie angeals. that is enough for me.--Uzuki18 13:32, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Because she is the most loveable character in the history of the world.--beano93 22.16, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Mr. Rojo: I found both characters to be a little boring, but since FF VII was my first FF I will go for Aerith. 05:05, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Aerith can do more physical damage than Yuna (if they were same level) so if Yuna ran out of MP she'd be toast Baptiejames 14:04, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Aeris made me say daaaamn... That's why i'll go for her... Feltor 23:26, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Tough choice..but I have to go for Aerith..sorry Yuna...>.<--Koori-san 06:09, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
- RazielZero 13:12, May 28, 2010 (UTC) Even tough I like Yuna, Aerith still owns her. It was really sad seeing her die, but after that she still helped the others a lot of times.
- Void Captain 8:43, May 28, 2010 (UTC) Even though I will never love her as much as I loved Vivi, it was a huge blow to see her die. That and X-2 was an abomination against all things.
- Yuna's picture says my reason A.X.A 16:59, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
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Anonymous Votes
- Aerith is definitely superior to Yuna. If she hadn't been killed during the game, she'd have become a serious problem for Sephiroth in his final battle with the party. 80.191.138.129 13:08, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- 67.234.75.151 04:49, May 20, 2010 (UTC)I'm casting my vote for Aeris here because she only gained more power when she died and became one with the Lifestream, rallying it to assist Holy in countering Meteor and later curing those afflicted with Geostigma. (For that, I laugh in Sephiroth's pale, pointed face.)
- 82.37.224.251 17:04, May 21, 2010 (UTC)So yeah, Aerith is greatly more powerful then Yuna. She kicks butt. Sephiroth had to kill her as she could have ruined his plan. Defiantly Aerith.
- Aerith made a huge impact in such a short time during the game... and that screams louder than any controllable aeons and what not!! Remember guys, Aerith cured the geostigma and brought back Cloud from the brink of death (Advent Children). I mean, she's gone and is still kicking ass. Yuna can't even save Tidus' skinny ass! ♫♪♫♪♪ hahaha 74.185.254.245 07:10, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Ahh...this was a hard one, but since Crisis Core was my first FF, my vote goes to Aerith..but I really hope that this ends in a tie..--110.159.107.33 11:04, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Aerith is definitely superior to Yuna. If she hadn't been killed during the game, she'd have become a serious problem for Sephiroth in his final battle with the party. 80.191.138.129 13:08, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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Votes for Yuna
- Tough choice. I liked Yuna better though.Naruto195 22:34, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Likeacupcake 23:10, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Nothing against Aeris, but I'm just partial to summoners. Hyacynth 00:02, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Im not sure , though i do like Aerith i go with Yuna she had amazing character development before the sequel went on and ruined it ..AznPinoyFlip 00:38, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, after finally having beaten VII, one thing was clear; X was a far superior game. And as Aerith died fairly quickly in the game, making her useless when she would be useful, my vote goes to Yuna. Besides, due to the summons, Yuna was actually USEFUL. Darkeclipse21 01:06, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- AeriTH is boring, bland, and terribly kill-offable. Yuna seemed more real (excluding her X-2) iteration. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 01:10, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Both are incredibly dull, but only because of the garment grid, X-2's gameplay was awesome. :p Judge Balthier 01:16, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Ghost of Christmas Past 01:39, May 18, 2010 (UTC):
I know, I know I've let you down
I've been a fool to myself
I thought that I could live for no one else
But now through all the hurt and pain
It's time for me to respect
The ones you love mean more than anything
So, with sadness in my heart
Feel the best thing that I could do
Is end it all and leave forever
What's done is done it feels so bad
What once was happy now is sad
I'll never love again
My world is ending
I wish that I could turn back time
'Cause now the guilt is all mine
Can't live without
The trust from those you love
I know we can't forget the past
You can't forget love and pride
Because of that, it's killing me inside
It all returns to nothing
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down
It all returns to nothing
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down
It all returns to nothing
It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down
It all returns to nothing
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down
It all returns to nothing
It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down
It all returns to nothing
I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down
- Win--DarkTriforce 01:47, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- She's a summoner, and I love summoners. And she gave Spira the Eternal Calm. And she's alive. Gengle 01:57, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- The X-2 picture made me vote for her. Dat ass. LC 02:57, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Why? Because she has Heterochromia too! Nokareon
- Yuna all the way! Cluna 06
- Let's face it, Yuna summons the sweetest incarnation of Bahamut ever! In addition, if you really played FFX, she even "Shared Anima's Pain"... which is amazing. And X-2, well I think it's good that she had some appeal. And she can sing! The Pain Of Anima 04:06, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Both made epic contributions to thier original games and i like them both but yuna is in FFX and i prefer FFX over FFVII. theWOL 5:00, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Yuna is less of a "distressed damsel" than Aerith. ララ・ルナ・ステラ姫
 09:22, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Final Fantasy X was my first FF and it is also my favorite FF ever! So this vote goes to Yuna! She's so cute together with Tidus!--TerraBranford145322 10:17, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- tough choice, but going out with Yuna this time :P MMLN メーマウリアン 10:50, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- She's hot! :o and she didn't die. not dying is a plus. --Jamandsam 14:23, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Aeris was renamed for no reason, spends about the whole game freaking out and talking like a psycho, is a worthless fighter no matter how you put it and dies on the first disc. Yuna is the best mage in FFX and has has access to the most powerful Summons in the series Uppfinnarn 17:07, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Death claimed Aerith, but not Yuna. Yuna is clearly to awesome to die.KefkaPVI 17:09, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Yuna all the way. The reasons are too many to list. FinalAnnihilator 18:48, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Yuna: Ultima. Flare. Doublecast. Nirvana. Aerith? Princess
stick guard. Materia. Poor health. Dead. Mog&Boko 19:52, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Ok...well I THOUGHT we were voting on who would win in a fight...but it seems it turned into a popularity contest...there is NO WAY Aeris (or Aerith...w/e) would beat just about anyone...her stats are just far too weak. And what's with all this animosity towards X-2? In terms of the battle system and gameplay, I liked it much, much better than X, the re-addition of the ATB gauge was a welcome sight, and thanks to it the flow of the game was much quicker. I despised the sphere grid system, and while I didn't find the dressphere thing to be great, it was still better than X's system. Eyestothesky 21:25, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Just trying to make it a tie. OwlEye 21:45, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Yuna. Not to say that I like her very much, but Aeris was cooler when she was dead. And I enjoy the optional Yuna-ditches-Tidus-and-becomes-a-lesbian in X-2. Girl power for the win. oglop_master 19:21, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I prefer Final Fantasy X to VII, and Yuna just has more customizablility, while Aerith is weak at attacking.Legend of Fantasy 00:14, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I love both of them and this was a tough one for me. FFX was my first Final Fantasy and Yuna was my second favorite character in it. Nostalgia wins. Aarim 02:33, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- In my opinion, Yuna has Aerith beat. I mean, not only can she heal, but she can summon Valefor, Ifrit, Ixion, Shiva, Magus Sisters, Yojimbo, Bahamut, and Anima!!!! Several of those Aeons can kill you in one hit and you can't deny that most of the Aeons looked freakin awesome!!! Aerith has nothing on her because she was weak to begin with and died by the end of the game. Plus, X-2 made her look incredibly sexy no matter what dressphere you put her in(and is adorable in the Moogle costume).Golbez91
- Because she develops as a character through FFX much more than Aeris ever did. Plus her Aeons are pretty epic. Terrible picture though, someone change it! Hamfruitcake 09 09:57, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I've always been really annoyed with Yuna. She was always so...I don't know. It just irritated me that I had to have her in my party because I love having summon's available. I still prefer her over Aerith, though. Dan-Iota 11:30 (UTC)
- She never makes the main character emo, she doesn't die an overrated death. She may have been the main character of the worst sequel ever, but she's a much better character than Aeris. ZaFlareStar 19/5/2010, 17:35 (UTC)
- *cough* Summons *cough* --Azecreth 14:57, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I enjoyed the scene in which Aeris died. When I watched it, I did not cry. Instead, I thought to myself: "Thank fuck! She's dead!" ...besides, Yuna was actually useful. YamiNoBahamut 20:02, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Aerith has an awkward voice in my opinion... and YUNA SUMMONS AND IS THE BEST SUMMONER. HAHA. User:XxLightningxXXIII
- Aerith vs. Yuna. Stick vs. Gun. Cure vs. Mega Flare. Team of misfits and wanna-be's vs. Team of well-trained guardians and mages. and last but not least, Dead vs. Alive. Doesnt look good on Aeriths side. Rakanadyo 04:50, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- Admittedly i like both of the characters, but it comes down to the Aeons - the best summon system in an FF; how on earth did they manage to cock it up so badly with the system in XII afterwards?!? Brit Penance 22:29, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- FFX is an awesome game and i have yet to play FFVII so i guess my vote goes here:} Theron101 17:25, May 20, 2010
- This is really hard, but you know what? At the end of the day, I choose Aerith, but at the end of the game, Yuna is alive. PinkAye 17:45 May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- Just because i'm voting for Yuna does NOT mean i like 10 more then 7, i just like yuna better, but some reason a lot of people are voting for Yuna because they hate 7, its should just between these 2 characters NeoExdeath 05:44, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Assuming it's Final Fantasy X Yuna and not X-2 Yuna, then definitely. In X, Yuna was invaluable for EVERYTHING. She did over 20k damage with Holy once she got her fully upgraded Nirvana. Heck, I made her solo Omega Weapon! And not the puny one, the PAL one with ten times as much hp. And last but not least, even if she was solely a Summoner, she'd obliterate every other Summoner out there. Even Rydia. I love you, PAL games. Intercision 15:52, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Yuna as she appeared in FFX and not FFX-2 was a very good female lead and presumably the real lead of the game considering Tidus was, well you know. Part of me wished Tidus never came back but whatever. Yuna would've been alongside Terra & Lightning as only female main characters in the series. Adelbert
- i love you so i'll go for her!! User:Neveryuna24
- I'm primarily voting for the FFX version of Yuna. I hate what she became in the second. Sry to those who I've offended, just my opinion. Zeypher 13:12, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
- I loved ffx and ffx-2 the summons were way cool! and she was awesome in dead fantasy :) Kamiii 19:47, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Destriker73 03:13, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
- I'll vote for a hot, overpowered summoner over the slum drunk any day. Xaphnir 22:03, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
- I'll go for Yuna!! ><--Rachox 12:47, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Aeons were game breakers. Armageddon11! 17:06, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Yuna, but I still love Aeris/th whatever you call her. Dissidian
- Fully controllable aeons! Yrl 17:01, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Go Yunie.--Xabryn 12:12, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
- Yuna was alive for the whole game. What can I say? rchelifino
- I say Yuna because she's awesome! AuRor
- Summoners FTW!!!! User:theultimatemage
- ララ・ルナ・ステラ姫 14:05, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
Anonymous Votes
- I love them both but Yuna becuase she is great but so is aerith :( I feel bad voting becuase they are both my fav characters but I always used Yuna and not Aerith82.3.2.188 16:56, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry Aeris, but Yuna just beats you. Having a voice definitely helps. Yuna's storyline and her deep changes and emotions really made the story of X what it was.#76.213.223.55 21:45, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Summoners FTW!!!! 128.83.39.164 18:14, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
- 124.182.176.81 02:36, May 26, 2010 (UTC)YUNA! Love her! Fantastic and deep character. I like Aerith too, but Yuna is amazing.
- Yuna is my favorite character in the whole series!--180.72.80.79 11:38, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
- 70.143.84.230 Without a shadow of a doubt Yuna. The depth of Yuna's character is one of the primary reasons why Final Fantasy X is my favorite.
- FF7 holds a very promminnent spot in my heart since it was my first RPG, but I'm sorry, there really should be no contest who'd win here. Assuming they're fighting with the stats, rules, and limitations of their respective games, Yuna would wipe the floor with Aeris. True, both have great mage stats and can both (potentially) cast white and black magic. However, the ability to do 99,999 as opposed to 9,999 damage, vastly increase physical stats through extensive progression into the sphere grid, and the fact that her summons can actually be controlled as opposed to being just high-powered spells, give Yuna a serious edge here. 67.83.9.65 17:08, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
- YUNA RULES ALL--187.44.46.206 13:24, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
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Peanut Gallery
I know this is old, but.. I just have to say this. I showed my mother the two pictures of Aeris(th) and Yuna; she said Yuna looked like a w***e, and Aeris(th) looked like a suicidal single mom. XD サイクス、 月の悪魔のダンス 15:23, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
Seriously, Naruto195... I myself go overboard with the whole Aeris/th thing sometimes, but doing it here is just incredibly petty. If you want to nitpick over the retcon in a fight, might I suggest doing it here instead of the DNC? -- Sorceror Nobody 22:39, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- It's not a retcon. Why do people say that? A retcon is a change in a plotline that reinterprets past information. Aeris is an improper translation. Fixing translation errors=/=retcons.Neo Bahamut 05:05, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Although by the strict definition of a retcon you're correct, stop being so pedantic. Sheesh -- Sorceror Nobody 07:56, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I laugh every time I see people argue about Aeris' name. Silver Dragon XXVIII 19:43, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I find it odd as well. There's really nothing to make a stink about. The "original" name was not the intention of the source material. Therefore, it can hardly be said to have been "changed." I don't view this as a technicality or being pedantic--these terms are just plain being used wrong. That being said, vote criticisms! [b]Aerith supporters:[/b] You really shouldn't go on about Aerith saving the entire world from beyond the grave, then turn around & call Yuna a Mary Sue. It just makes no sense. [b]Yuna supporters:[/] Aerith easily has the best magic stat in Final Fantasy. She CAN use black magic & summonings, so I don't see why you're not counting them for her. And easily her greatest combat advantage is her Limit Breaks, one of which can heal/revive the party fully AND make them invincible. You can also raise her attack, just like Yuna's. She is not a "weak fighter" by any stretch of the imagination.Neo Bahamut 21:47, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I don't really want to inflame this debate, but I can't resist the urge to point out that Aeris's birth and naming are, in an odd sort of way, part of the storyline (think Gast's recordings at Icicle Inn). One could argue that her name itself therefore counts as a part of the storyline, sort of, and thus it qualifies to be called a retcon. In all seriousness, though, this comment is really just me mocking anyone who takes the whole thing too seriously (including myself sometimes) -- 10:20, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I'll respond anyway: Even taking all of that logic into account, Aerith's name was always meant to be Aerith. It wasn't changed within the confines of the story, it was changed due to outside circumstances, namely, a translation error. Ergo, it isn't a true retcon. And you're talking to a guy with a pretty liberal idea of what makes a retcon. On another note, I'm thinking of going with Aerith just because the Yuna votes are so stupid that I don't want to be associated with them. "Hey, look at all this shit Yuna can do! Black Magic, Summons...Aerith can't do any of that!" Oh wait....Neo Bahamut 00:06, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Neo Bahamut, The point of the Yuna voters mentioning black magic and summons is that Yuna is more effective/versatile in those roles by the end of X than Aerith is when she dies (possibly excluding long time grinders). I understand the gameplay convention (characters get stronger as the game progresses), but if you're just comparing the 2 characters overall, Yuna is 17 at the end of X, while Aerith is 22. At 17, Yuna has fully controllable aeons, flare, doublecast, etc. Imagine how much more powerful she'll be at 22 (even counting the fact that she had to destroy her friends the aeons at the end of X). Definitely much stronger than Aerith as a mage by then. As for stupid votes, both sides have much dumber votes including I hate (Yuna/Aerith, VII/X/X-2) and (Yuna/Aerith) is hot (without any additional explanation or reasons). But the Aerith voters are worse. For example, Yuna is perfect is a reason for voting against Yuna, "Aerith can do more damage than Yuna (if they're the same level)," and "Yuna just accepted Tidus disappearance; Aerith didn't just accept Zack's." Characters don't level in X, they have the sphere grid to increase stats, learn abilities, etc. The only reasonable comparison is the end of the game, or when Yuna is 22, which we don't know about, but it's reasonable to assume that she wouldn't get weaker. Yuna should therefore be stronger either way. Disliking someone for being perfect/popular/likable is just as bad as disliking someone for not being popular. As for Yuna just accepting Tidus' disappearance, there's this game called Final Fantasy X-2, where she saves the world while on a quest to get him back (and may or may not actually succeed). Writing letters is really, really weak dedication compared to that. Even worse, someone voted for Aerith because that character had fewer votes (and that character now has more votes). I'm not trying to be confrontational, but you seem like a logical person, and I just think you might want to consider switching sides on this one. Yrl 17:26, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Whoa. Who ordered the essay? Although Yrl has a point, I think this is a definite example of taking the whole thing too seriously :S -- 12:56, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
- Haha, sorry, kinda got carried away, but this is a perfect example of why the Peanut Gallery is nice to have. Certainly wouldn't want me leaving a vote like that. Although come to think of it, I probably could have expanded my intro and worked out a nice organized three pronged response. Maybe next time. XD By the way, I like your sig. Why does everything look cooler in Japanese? Yrl 21:37, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
- It's not Japanese, it's the Cocoon alphabet -- 19:24, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
- Well that's even more awesome! And I'm still getting used to Al Bhed's simple substitution cipher. How'd you manage to type that anyway? Yrl 19:51, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
- 'Tis an image. I pixel-drew it in MS Paint :P --
- I thought maybe. It looks cool. Good work. Yrl 23:49, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, isn't Naruto's vote disqualified? He missed out the # to number it... <evil smirk> -- Sorceror Nobody 22:57, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. He didn't number it. And the rules do state... TheBlueDragoon 23:04, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
- </evil smirk> Don't forget to close your tags =P And never fear; #ing person is here... ok that sounded lamer than I anticipated. Anyway, added it in when I put my vote up. And I've noticed a rapid decline in those that follow the rules of the DNC. And as to the Aerith/Aeris thing; get over it. They misspelt it in the original, just like Kary(Kali/Maralith). I think Kary is awesome, but I don't go hulk rage because someone calls her Maralith. Likeacupcake 00:29, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Counterpoint: They did it again with Maliris in IX. The folks in the translation dept. really need to try harder, huh? -- SN
- I blame it on lack of chocolate in the translation department Likeacupcake 15:05, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Aha! A stroke of brilliance! That's another mystery of the universe finally explained! Therefore, to prevent further translation errors (and typos) in their games – such as the subtitles in XIII saying "willl" at one point XD – Square Enix should immediately increase the chocolate allowance for all departments! -- 15:54, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Exactually! And you have too many sigs... Likeacupcake 15:58, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- How is two too many? Anyway, it doesn't really matter how many I have as long as they are in userspace and not cluttering the mainspace, right? -- 17:17, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- 巧克力！是的，他们绝对需要有更多的办事处。但他们的聘用过的员工将他们给他们应得的巧克力？大概没有。 。 。 。16:05, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- You're mean... I can only speak a little Japanese, no way can I read it! =P Likeacupcake 16:08, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I used Goggle Translate to do that. I don't actually speak it.
- "Chocolate! Yes, they definitely need more offices. But their employes and they deserve them to chocolate? Probably not..." Yeah, retranslation never gives perfect sense back, does it? :P -- SN
- The original thing that I wrote was "Chocolate! Yes, they definately need more of that in their offices. But will they give their employes the Chocolate they deserve? Probably not." Does that help clarify what I said? A.J. two (Smashboards) 18:36, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Why, yes it does! -- 19:03, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
Oh My God! My fight made it in! Thanks TA! Now, who to vote for. This is gonna take some thinking. TheBlueDragoon 22:50, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
If you're goin' with the whole White Mage Female Protagonist thing, you should've put up Yuna's X picture, not her X-2, which is clearly a gunner. King of Noobs 00:38, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
BH, can you please stop posting song lyrics? It clogs up my page, and makes it lag even more than before. SilverCrono 01:46, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Seriously, the lyrics thing is dead BH. After we got banned for a week, it should have ended. TheBlueDragoon 02:14, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
I could've sworn that this fight had happened already somewhere back in the archives... hmm... Nokareon
- Well, we are getting through all the good matches, that's why they're this flood of XIII related battles on the nom page. So I suppose people may be willing to overlook some of the older matches, as we have fresh blood and new opinions, thus the outcome may change. Likeacupcake 03:36, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
I think BlueHighwind is fond of the right handside. I've got nothing else to say on the matter, having not played FFVII... KujaRhapsodos 15:18, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- You should; it's over hyped like hell, but still it was a solid game, and still is. Likeacupcake 15:42, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
Who spelt my name wroooong?? >.< FinalFantasyAerith 16:30, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. XD I'd fix it, but I'm not sure if I should. TheBlueDragoon 17:30, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- It really doesn't matter that much, except for those people petty enough to change their vote based on the name (I'm looking at you, Naruto195). If anyone cares enough to want justifications, however, I will point out that TA put it as Aeris (I even double-checked the History to make sure), so it should be left as Aeris. TA is, after all, the one in charge -- 18:03, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Fair enough... hmmmmmmm I'll just have to sit here and pretend it's been spelt right like my real name which is constantly spelt wrong too :L FinalFantasyAerith 19:33, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
Just curious, but why do loads of people overlook the fact that Aerith used Cloud as a replacement for Zack and Shuyin used Yuna as a replacement for Lenne? at least Yuna fought back against Shuyin and didn't start stealing other people's (namely Tifa's) love interests.Mog&Boko 19:56, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I actually forgot about Aerith and Zack (Never played X-2 though). Don't judge me. 20:04, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Loll. Yeah, she saw the Zack-ness in Cloud. You make it sound like she's so sinister. If Tifa really is his love interest that wouldn't have been a problem for him to square it out. AnonyMan 22:00, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, because neither of those are true. Shuyin only mistaked Yuna for Lenne. After realizing they were different people, he went all, GTFO I'm gonna blow up Spira. As for Aerith, literally the only place in the entire Compilation where she ever says she saw Zack in Cloud, she turns around & notes she liked things about him that Zack didn't have. This was missed by many people who aggressively latched onto one of the details, claiming that it's been "proven" that Aerith did/not love Cloud, a trend that continues with every new commentary on the love triangle. Apparently, the phrase "up to your own interpretation" is some kind of completely alien concept that has no business in the minds of fans. Of course, since it's up for interpretation, you're technically not incorrect, but that doesn't really coincide with Aerith's personality, either.Neo Bahamut 00:37, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- ...Mkay, that came across quite aggressive but hey, I never like Aerith, never had her in my party (even though she still managed to date Cloud.) Crisis Core suggested heavily that she loved Cloud because he reminded her of Zack. Checking the timelines, Cloud believed him and Zack to be roughly one person more or less. He only snapped out of this after Aerith died during the events in Mideel when he finally broke free of his mental trauma. Soooo, assuming him to be unstable for the duration of Aerith's life he had no control over this and to some extent, she took advantage, whether this was intentional or not is debatable, still she wasn't exactly all sugar and rainbows. And let's face it Yuna was a lot more 'good' in that she saved Spira twice, Aerith barely managed to prevent meteor, let alone top Sephiroth.Mog&Boko 15:24, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
- You know, come to think of it, the Lifestream gathering where it did may just have been lucky coincidence; the Planet sensed it's "life" in danger, and was going to spawn Omega. Fortunately for the people living on that planet (and unfortunately for Omega) it happened to be spawning in the exact place where Meteor would've hit, and the Lifestream's gathering there prevented Meteor's impact, thus eliminating the threat to the Planet and stopping the process of Omega's spawning (which saved the Planet's inhabitants from a fatal relocation of the Lifestream.) The.DreadnoughT 01:27, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
Hey! Someone changed it from Aeris to Aerith! XD TheBlueDragoon 00:32, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Am I the only one who thinks it's kind of petty to refuse to let an incorrect name be changed because of "authority"?Neo Bahamut 16:50, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, so we should reject authority? Seriously, I did it mainly in an attempt to stop back-and-forth changes. Furthermore, despite my preference, if TA had put it up as Aerith, I would have argued against anyone changing it to Aeris. But what does it matter? Anyone who objects to my reasoning can either reject TA's decision, or bother TA with something so trivial as asking whether it should be changed. Just remember that anyone who does so becomes more petty than they think I am -- 19:10, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
- I honestly couldn't care less if its Aeris or Aerith. I just pointed out that someone had changed it. TheBlueDragoon 20:59, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
What the!? another close one... This one better not be another tie hahah BboyMogFile:Z yoshimitsu1.gif 02:11, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
- If you watch the DNC like I used to, you start to notice right off the bat when a landslide will occur. I knew this was gonna be close when I suggested it. TheBlueDragoon 09:48, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
- hmmm looks like yuna is about to widen the gap... OH NO!!!! AERITH!!! Nice suggestion by the way!! :D BboyMogFile:Z yoshimitsu1.gif 00:21, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Yuna's actually ahead right now. And thank you. This was my most supported suggestion so far. 22 people in favor. TheBlueDragoon 02:42, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
This ought to be good.SaneKefka 23:55, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
I never thought i'd see the day when the fanboys aren't enough... sure I voted for the FF7 character myself, but that's because she's the only one of the 2 in this I know. A certain FMV *glaring at fanboy magnet WHO HASN'T DONE ANYTHING ORIGINAL* has nothing with the reason for my vote. but seriously, counting anonymous votes, BOTH WERE ON 55 at the time of this comment! TARDISES 07:06, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
Unofficial notice - to me, unsigned votes and votes in the wrong sections are now called "idiot votes." There are notices IN HUGE CAPITAL LETTERS LIKE THIS reminding people to sign their votes, not to vote above or below certain lines of coding, etc, but some still do it. So really, if you can't be bothered to pay attention...yeah, I am going to make certain judgements about your intelligence. Maybe if we make the rules flash in and out, I do believe there is coding for that. Doreiku Kuroofangu 04:49, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
YOU MEAN LIKE THIS? That might work, but I doubt anybody would look at it even if it was blinking. We should also note that signing is done with four tildes. Now many people know that. EDIT: I just realized it was in the rules (hypocrisy, thy name is Moocowisi). We should still make a point of asserting it, though. --Moocowisi 05:01, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Why don't we just host the Idiot Awards weekly? Maybe then people will get the point. A lesson in humility is always good. I, for one, am sick of seeing this kind of unnecessary crap. TheBlueDragoon 03:44, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
- I like the idea of that xD They could be like the darwin awards but we could call them something else xD FinalFantasyAerith 10:44, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Devol awards? (devol is part of 'devolution, which is the opposite of evolution, which Darwin proved.) TARDISES 20:20, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Hopefully I don't get another card for this, but yes, that sounds like a good idea. The Darwin Awards are what came to mind when I typed this FFA. TheBlueDragoon 22:13, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
I fixed my vote since I made a mistake. Not to mention my reason was kinda dumb. Naruto195 06:09, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
0.o you people argue way too much over nothing, and there is no need to make fun of someone over a simple mistake, because if he is an idiot for doing it then you are all idiots for any simple mistake you have ever made NeoExdeath 21:16, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Thumbs up, Exdeath. But no one'll change anything because you said it. -_- ... It's always like that. KujaRhapsodos 22:03, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
- No, see, a simple mistake one time is excusable. Voting without signing or voting multiple times, four or five times, not taking the hint each time despite all the clearly displayed rules and notices, is stupidity. If you tried to pull open a push door five times in a week, if the word PUSH is painted on the doors in large red letters and you still tried to pull them open, then yes, you are officially on the lower end of the evolutionary scale. Mean? Yes. Truthful? Yes, which is why it hurts. Doreiku Kuroofangu 22:44, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
65.5 for Aerith and 63 for Yuna. Looks like we've got another tie on our hands. Ah well, I like good, close fights. King of Noobs 05:17, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- Ya, but I prefer to see a close winner, rather than a darw. Likeacupcake 05:25, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
- There's something funny going on in the DNC, particularly a lot of new registers and one or two-time voters. In any case, three of the users voting for Yuna don't exist at the very least. There's some funny business in the anonymous section too. Yes, this is the same thing that happened last week.T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L
- I'll keep a closer eye on things this week, see if I can stop what's going on. Likeacupcake 15:51, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
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