Votes for Biggs
- The force is strong with this one. Armageddon11! 17:20, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- I am voting for Biggs as I am sure I have a Star wars figurine of him. Ultima 18:42, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- Though I nearly voted for Wedge (and was, in fact, about to click "Save Page" before I changed my mind) because they at least get his name right, I remembered that Vicks has a cooler last name: Darklighter > Antilles. Also, he had a cooler helmet (until the TIE fighter squad blasted it to subatomic particles, and him with it, that is.) The.DreadnoughT 01:40, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- I don't even care. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 05:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'll go for the Underdog Rocking Chair
- I just wanted to vote Biggs cause he's AWESOME! - User:CloudStrife456
- He was the coolest in Final Fantasy VII - so my vote goes to Biggs! - MardukKurios
- Glaargh. Okay, Biggs edges it out because...well, I believe a 'Wedge' is a type of golf club. Bangaa Red Mage 09:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- For honor of Biggs Darklighter, who died in the battle over Yavin 4. Finalfreakfantasy 10:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- The man had a epic death in The After Years. --TenzaZangetsu 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- FinalAnnihilator 19:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- Blykus 21:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- I like red :) Mr_Darkside 06:59, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- He made some pretty hilarrious scenes in VIII, especially when he decided to quit at the last bit. CheeseNinja 06:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Hah, they weren't identical in VII! Biggs was better-looking in that game, so my vote goes to him. Superficial, I know. SamSandy 16:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- He wasn't fat in VII, he had cooler armor in VIII, and I've never watched a Star Wars movie other than 10 minutes of II. 8D Template:BfDsig
- Woooo, go Biggs! Bruntie2 18:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- MaesterTonberry 14:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Destriker73 23:56, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- I had to think a lot about this one... Whenever I think of Biggs, I immediately think of Wedge, too, and vice versa. It's not just Biggs and not just Wedge. It's Biggs and Wedge! However, I made my decision based on their appearances in FFVII ;D! <.<; Yzz 10:46, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Anonymous Votes
- He made sure that Luke survived to take on Darth Vader later in the movies. Go Biggs!
74.99.0.248 23:09, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- 93.41.215.106 20:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)He's a hottie in FFVII
- Me too, I prefer red to blue, so Biggs wins. 89.217.32.5 13:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
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Votes for Wedge
- BlueHighwind ツ: The man took out an AT-AT, what more do you need?
- He gets to die a more elaborate death in Echoes of Strife. Hey, if we're bringing Star Wars in, we might as well add some FFwiki fanfic. ^^ Condemnation! 8bit 17:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- I was considering voting for Biggs, but I remembered that Gibbs is a dumbass because he hates Chocobos -- Sorceror Nobody 17:56, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- He was one of my favorite players in Blitzball, and he never got his name mistranslated back in the SNES days. ClixPsi
- He's just better. --wee187 18:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- I like Wedge's color better in The After Years and I guess he has a slightly better name. Let's go with that.--Otherarrow 19:12, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- The only Biggs incarnation that I came to like over Wedge was the FFVII one and despite my love for that game the fact that I prefer Wedge at every other game they have been on is enough to get me to vote for him. Celythia
- Wedge's name is done right more consistently. (Vicks, Gibbs, etc.) Anyway, I don't really care all this much about this fight, but in FFVIII (one of the few FF's where the two had developed, separate personalities), Wedge is funnier. -Nokareon
- Pikmin Master: White Magic. Done.
- Wedge was funny in FFVII. ScatheMote 03:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- Hes a follower to biggs thats why. GRIEVER POWER 15:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- MrAllStar2: Wedge didnt get his pay at the dollet communication tower :(
- Onionknight23 wedgy wedgy
- I like his rotund appearance in FFVII Violet mage
- At least Wedge is played by Ewan McGregor's uncle! 'Nuff said.--Cluna 06 04:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- He's not a bastard like his IV ATY Partner. OMGkappa
- He's an awesome center in Blitzball.--Werefang 21:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'm voting for Wedge, because he actually survived the first five minutes of his screen time in Star wars, and he's the best pilot ever. (better than Luke cause he cheated with the force). And in ffvi I think he dies after bigs. Archmael 22:32, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Pity vote, because my conscience won't allow me to not vote in a DNC match, even if it is a fight between two characters who are nigh identical. TheBlueDragoon 02:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Gotta give it up to Wedge. He's a survivor. Theentertainer
- It continues. --Gamer2127 03:33, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- wedge antilles rules! NeoExdeath 03:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Wedge was always better in the games they were in BritBoy 20:52, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Kuzlalala Squee! 11:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- As a huge Star Wars fan, i have to say that Wedge is better. He surived attacks on BOTH Death Stars, mind you, and he fought in every major conflict after that for atleast the next 39 years. Biggs died attacking the first Death Star. Wedge wins. Irish Reaper 20:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- They're heading for the medical frigate! T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L
Anonymous Votes
- Wedge has always been one of my favorite Star Wars characters, so since there's not really anything to distinguish between the two in Final Fantasy I'll base my vote off of that.71.187.79.22 19:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- I played eeny meeny miny moe and Wedge was the winner. 69.204.66.223 04:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- Wedge. Beacause he's wearing blue213.13.225.61 21:50, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
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Peanut Gallery
I am aware that this fight was not in any Queued list on the Nomination page, meaning that nobody asked for it. There's even a good chance you might not like this idea. Well, you know how TacticAngel doesn't care? I care that much less. Cry me a river, Space Monkies. --BlueHighwind ツ 16:56, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- I support your apathy, Mr. Highwind, and any heavy-handed judgments to follow -- T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 20:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- You're just confirming that the Nomination Page is a LIE, aren't you? Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 07:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- I have never said that the nomination page is a lie. The current policy states that they are suggestions. Final approval is given by myself or people working on my behalf. Don't think I don't feel your plight, but considering I have to pay some amount of attention to the nomination page. I can see more directly than most, since this displeasure is vented in my direction, the correlation between suggestion trends and complaint trends, which, I might add, was not all-together unpredictable. There are many life lessons to be learned in this, all of which are less effective if pointed out rather than happened upon by personal discovery. I might add that this discussion is arguably off-topic, and you should address my talk page if you wish to hold a conversation with me on this matter. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 21:40, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- In support Of T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L i must say, that as the over seer of the DNC, he has every right to put in a fight he wants, afterall everyone seams to pick the same 10 characters out of the 100's in FF to do over and over again. How would you feel if your sitting there and having to chose between Sephiroth Vs Kefka, Cloud VS Zidane, Cloud Vs Zack, Sephiroth Vs Everyf***ing character in the series, Tifa this, aerith this, rydia this. Cant we all be more original? So if he wasnts to put in his own fights I dont see a problem. -Saraija Merinas
Pity, we just had quite a few good ones. Exdeath64 18:30, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well here's an interesting fight. Not exactly a good one, but it will require some thought. Are we voting based on their Star Wars quality, because if so, I refuse to vote, because I loathe Star Wars. TheBlueDragoon 18:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
It is a stupid fight if it's on a Star Wars basis – this was still FFWiki last time I looked – which is why I voted on an FF basis. There is one thing I can't complain about, and that's the fact that at least I managed to vote this time. Several fights lately have been too well-matched or had characters I didn't know well enough -- Sorceror Nobody 18:45, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- To be sincere I didn't even know that they were a SW reference until this battle came up. I still don't really get it, I guess it's too naive to think that they came up with the names and decided to add them in almost every game on their own without thinking "Hey, let's make a SW reference because SW is so great!", but then again I'm quite naive sometimes. Celythia
- This may have been chosen because of the discussion of Balthier (and/or the rest of FFXII) being a reference to Star Wars in the Peanut Gallery of Edgar vs Balthier. Just mentioning my own opinion here, TacticAngel probably has other (better) reasons for it, I'm just pointing it out. The.DreadnoughT 01:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- I hope the reasons behind this fight are more (and maybe better) than that too, even if it was a fight decided because TacticAngel was lazy to check the fights scheduled and was the first thing that came to mind. I would prefer that over the SW reference debate because SW references can be found just anywhere, I remember a guy who went around saying that LOTR by Tolkien was full of SW references. Because SW is so great that it got referenced even before it was created *headdesk* Celythia
- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! --BlueHighwind ツ 15:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- I hope whoever put this fight did it because he had a gun in his head and not for the SW references... It would be so... sad *Rai barely remember there was a nomination page or something like that*. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 22:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh, god. Zak Undersn 18:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- Remember when we used to have interesting fights? I wish I did. Drake Clawfang 19:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- I wish we did too. This was a bad fight in general, especially on a Star Wars basis. TheBlueDragoon 20:16, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I love Biggs and Wedge but having them fight just isn't right.Immune to stop 19:44, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Just proves many people on wiki's are morons. Deal with the facts :> Yay...star wars votes on FFWiki. *eyeroll* BoAKaN 21:24, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm not gonna vote on this one. I couldn't care less about Star Wars references, and aside from that, these two are basically the same character to me. JohnnyC
- Same for me. Silver Mage 03:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- I third what you both just said. TheBlueDragoon 03:30, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- Cannot vote...they are ONE CHARACTER!
I KNOW! LET'S KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE CURRENT FIGHT BECAUSE IT'S THE TRADITION EVERY SINGLE WEEK AND WE DON'T WANT TO BREAK OUR MONTHS-LONG STANDARD OF GRIPING OVER EVERY SINGLE MATCHUP EVEN WHEN TWENTY OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY DONE SO!!!! My God, guys. It's a DNC match. If you're not going to vote, we don't need to know - your absence is sufficient. 8bit 21:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- A statement about a less-than-appealing fact is automatically a complaint? JohnnyC
- I have to agree with you there Johnny. Besides, much as I hate bitching for the sake of bitching, people who dislike this fight have just as much a right to say so as the people who do like this fight. You say there is no point in writing negative comments just because you judge the fight bad? Well correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you and a hell of a lot of other people making negative comments because you judge others comments to be unnecessary? Isn't that exactly the same thing?Rivenous
- 8bit is absolutely right. -Saraija Merinas
I would vote for Chewie. Karu
- We all love Chewie Zak Undersn 13:29, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- I can't think of anyone who hates Chewie. TheBlueDragoon 21:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Rocking Chair 11:19am 14 July 2009 (EST) - Is it really that hard? Just vote if you want to, or don't vote. Stop bitching about every single godamn fight!
- Who's bitching. I hardly ever write anything here. It just annoys me how anyone stating their mind about this is automatically considered to be whining and complaining. JohnnyC
- Everyone is entitled to say whatever they want, bitching or not. This is a shitty fight. Both characters are almost identical. Biggs and Wedge are always background characters or comic relief. They rarely add anything important to the story except when they died in FFVII. We're just stating our own opinions, so you stop bitching over us bitching! TheBlueDragoon 02:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Every Fight? Silver Mage 08:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
8bit's comment made me laugh: he sounds like he's channeling Padma. I don't really care about the DNC, but it does seem that every fight has a number of people either going "This fight sucks! It's boring!" or "I don't know which one to choose!", interspersed with complaints about TA ignoring the nomination page (he didn't even choose this fight: Blue did). 8bit was probably not directing his comment at any single person, but asking in general that people think before they post. "I don't like this fight" five times over is boring to read, so if you really can't resist posting, be creative with your complaints at least. ;) — YuanSaluto!Acta 10:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry 'bout that. (Fatigue of anything useful to say.) --Silver Mage 11:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- What impresses me the most is that I personally told everybody the deal at the top of this Peanut Gallery business. Maybe I would have picked a fight out of Queued section if they weren't all so incredibly boring and played. By the way, I don't know who you're complaining to. Me? Then what do you hope to accomplish? I like this idea, and nothing any of you can say will make me think otherwise. And I am happily rowing down the river of tears you all cried for me. If you keep this up, I might get an ocean to swim in. =D --BlueHighwind ツ 13:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Rocking Chair 9:01pm 14 July 2009 (EST) - It could be worse. This fight could involve Rosa and PaladinCecil could discuss why we should stop putting Rosa in fights because she will continue to lose.
BAWWWW WHY WON'T TACTICANGEL LISTEN TO US BAWWWWW. Lol, butthurt. I had to jump in. =D Template:BfDsig
Dude...really? Alright, I'll say it: This is retarded. And the people bitching that people are bitching? MORE RETARDED! It says right in the description that they're "virtually identical." Man, usually I feel bad for sparking so many complaints, but if you pick bad fight after bad fight, it's going to happen. There's a certain degree of opinion in most "bad fights," but this really takes the cake. Biggs vs. Wedge? Why not just do Johnny (FFVII minor NPC) vs. Darlavon (Tactics NPC who does the tutorial)? Hell, at least THAT has 2 DIFFERENT competitors. Naturally, I end with my obligatory, "Genesis vs. Kuja, God damn it!"Neo Bahamut 22:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- Except no one wants that fight because it is so obviously one sided. Bitching at people for not listening is inherently pointless because they aren't listening.--Werefang 23:39, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- No one wants that fight, & that's why it has so many votes for it, & little or none against it? Yeah, THAT makes sense. And I think you're projecting. Obviously, you aren't listening, because that isn't what I'm bitching about. I'm saying that everyone who's complained in this topic has a valid point: This. Is. Retarded. Repeat, "Virtually identical." Telling them to "vote or shut up," is just ignoring that very obvious point they all have. So, here's the thing: You want people to stop bitching about bad fights? TAKE THEM UP ON THEIR SUGGESTIONS! It isn't that hard to figure out. No one asked for the XIII fight. No one asked for this. So, why did they get put up? Someone thought it was a good idea, & everyone else is just supposed to agree or not give a shit? Yeah, sorry, but it doesn't work that way. There's a reason there were so many complaints before even I looked at this week's fight.Neo Bahamut 00:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- People may claim they want the fight, but most of them are just doing that to dis Genesis. Also, I point out that "good" and "bad" are complete and utter oppinions. The terms are absolutely unquantifiable. Thus to claim that any fight is "good" or "bad" is wrong. The only intelegent thing to be said about this fight is that it IS a fight. The very thing that one person thinks is bad may be the very thing that someone else finds good. I love the openness of this fight; you don't. As for "everyone else is just supposed to agree or not give a shit," yes that is exactly how this is supposed to work; if you vote, you obviously agree; if not, you don't give a shit. So take your self rightousness and shove it. In the words of Mic Jagger, "You can't always get what you want."--Werefang 00:49, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, Neo, it works exactly like that. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! --BlueHighwind ツ 01:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- "Take your self-righteousness & shove it." I ain't gettin' into another 50 page argument with you because you're DESPERATE to prove me wrong. And that goes for Blue, if he decides to keep going, too. Agree with the complaints or shut the Hell up[/reversal]. "Most" is also a vague term. I think it's awfully stupid to call me on my generalizations, when your opening statement was "No one wants that fight." -I- want that fight. And I'm not the only one who wants it. So, take your own advice, & piss off.Neo Bahamut
- I'm not the one who bitch, pisses and moans about nothing. "Most" is also a substantially less vague term the "good" or "bed" because it is a referance to numbers, not opinions. Any one with any brains knows that G v K is going to be an unexiting fight. You yourself state that you'd vote for Kuja and you are one of the few people who likes Genesis. At least this fight could go either way. Also, if you don't want a "50 page argument" don't start one. So buck up or fuck off, that's how the world works whether you like it or not. There are some fights that I want, but you don't see me screaming "Tidus vs. Vaan" every week.--Werefang 01:31, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Stop. I wasn't going to respond, but I felt the need to say the following 2 sentences: Don't quote mine me, asshole. I said I MIGHT vote for Kuja. For that matter, don't give me that "don't start fights" shit. Every week I post here, & every week you're up my ass. I don't know why, I don't care, but if you think you aren't "bitching, pissing, & moaning about nothing," then what the FUCK do you call arguing with me every week, Werefang?Neo Bahamut 01:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'm (futily) attempting to stop you before you make a bigger ass of yourself than you already are.--Werefang 01:40, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Delusions of grandeur, thy name is Werefang.Neo Bahamut 02:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- That's the "pot calling the
cettlekettle black," Neo_. Besides, didn't you recieve a test for doing this?--Werefang 13:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- That's "kettle." The.DreadnoughT 13:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Oops, thanks.--Werefang 14:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- Do you two need a restraining order from each other? You're doing it again -- Sorceror Nobody 14:10, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Hehe, Neo. When you mentioned Johnny, I thought you were saying something about me, since I have no idea who Johnny is FF7 is. xD (Ok, did I break the flaming-chain-reaction?) JohnnyC
I have no dog in this fight -- both are basically two sides of the same coin to me and there's no way I'm going to vote based on Star Wars. George B. (talk) 09:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- I...really don't like a lot of the voting reasons. I mean, come on, these things have always been prone to some WTF votes, but "Biggs begins in B"? 'Course, you can't really come up with much of a reason for a vote, so with that said, I seriously hope this fight changes sometimes soon. (To Genesis vs. Kuja.)Neo Bahamut 13:13, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- Fights usually change about Sunday or Monday, so don't worry. 8bit 20:29, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- Good. I'm sick of looking at this fight. Its an eyesore in my eyes. Anything but this. Wouldn't mind seeing my new suggestion this week. TheBlueDragoon 05:38, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Seems like it was a slow week this week. I suggest we delay a new fight until next week so everyone gets a chance to vote! I know some people have a perfect record for voting in DNC fights, and wouldn't want anyone to miss it! --Gamer2127 08:39, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Space Monkies, I'd like to thank you. Not only did you cry me a river, you cried me a fuckin' ocean. Your whining is my beach fun time. --BlueHighwind ツ 22:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
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