Votes for Amarant
- Unfortunately for me, I missed out on getting Vivi his best spells, so I had to bench the little guy. Meanwhile, I also missed out on Steiner's best weapons, so he was also lacking. Thus, Amarant actually made it into my final party, along side Eiko and Freya. Thanks to Counter Magic and several other useful skills, Amarant proved to be a good substitution. Hey, it's more useful than Kimarhi, who just feels like a second-rate copy of whosoever path you send him down. ...Neither were too interesting as story characters. ClixPsi
- I felt Amarant was useful while Kimahri just wasn't. Amarant meant I could go spell crazy as long as he was there due to chakra. Kimahri however made me trade him out for one of the girls apart form that one battle where I spammed attack to kill the bosses. Sorceress Heartilly
- BlueHighwind ツ: How can I vote against the Dude?
- Neither of them made it to my final party, but although I still look at Amarant and feel that story-wise he lacked many things (although Quina lacked even more things so I won't complain much) he was in my party pretty often and was in fact my second backup with Steiner. Kimahri on the other hand won my heart story-wise but lost it all in the gameplay aspect so I neglected him in the worst way you can imagine and only came to level him up when he had to fight alone. They're pretty equal but still the fact that I liked Amarant story-wise (despite finding it lacking) and gameplay wise makes me vote for him. And I always liked wolfs over lions, specially lions with a broken horn. Celythia
- Two characters I didn't really care for. I'm only going with Amarant because he didn't feel like a copy. He had his own, if somewhat pointless, abilities. Plus he could Throw, which is always a plus in my book.TheBlueDragoon 18:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, I think this is the earliest I've ever gotten to this after a change. Anyway, how could I vote for a semi-Blue Mage? Blue Magic is one of those things...I'm not even sure I'd vote for a Blue Mage against the Whiny Dumbshit from VI. And then Amarant has to go and be similar (in some ways, if not all) to Solid Snake. Snake Relative vs Blue Mage + Dragoon...Amarant gets my vote. The.DreadnoughT 20:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Unlike some people, I have nothing against Kimahri, but he has the same fatal flaw that Quistis does: Blue Magic should never be restricted to a Limit Break. Amarant is more interesting character-wise (though not story-wise), and he's often quoted as a useful party member for challenging Ozma, which earns him bonus points in my book :P -- Sorceror Nobody
 21:00, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Kimahri can go down any path on the Sphere Grid but ultimately he's just a weaker version of the original, who needs a sub-par black mage with Lulu or a Healer who can't summon? Also, No Mercy can do 9999 by the end of FFIX. Terra_Homing 21:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- OH HOLY SHIN-RA CORP. I must vote for you, Salamander Coral. Not that I hate Kimahri (in fact he's so irrelevant to the story that I almost actually liked him) though, but The Man here can put autolife to all your party at once and then throw things to your enemies to death, or kill them to death, or quad-9 them to death, or heal your party's MP until your enemy gets bored and dies. The only thing that makes Kimahri "unique" on it's own game is that he has one of the most awesomesest skills ever limited to his limit breaks. ALL HAIL AMARANT. Zak Undersn 21:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- I like Kimahri, he's one of the only good characters in X's massive suck of a Cast. But the big Red-Hair is in another league. Sure he may not have too much prominence in the story(like Kimahri). But he's got character, the look and awesome versatile abilities, NO MERCY! Of all of FF's supercilius "bad-ass" characters he's like the only one who actually is, and more so than the others. AnonyMan
- Hey it's FFIX's team mascot! - ロル Lol Cakes オケス 00:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Nokareon: Amarant has cooler personality, and can actually hit 9999, making him not useless like Kimahri.
- Meh. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 05:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Kimahri is a useless Blue Mage *and* Dragoon. Meanwhile Amarant may be my least favorite IX party member, but he is damn useful as a battery for my mages. Hyacynth
- Amarant AND kihamari did little for their respective games. But being a bigger IX fan and knowing that Amarant a bit more skill fighting (he's a monk so he's good with hand-to-hand and he's a ninja so he throws too) makes him more useful the his opponent. He did have NO story in the game though.--Jedicam10 07:49, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- MMLN メーマウリアン With Kimahri being my least favourite character in FFX (despite being sort of Blue Mage) my vote is clear on this one, although Amarant is not one of my favourites aswell :P
- Come, on, people, Amarant is way cooler than Kimahri (who is also very cool) and he is also useful in battle, something than Kimahri is not. --TenzaZangetsu 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Heretic Ramza Kimahri is cooler looking (like something off the Thundercats) but he was a huge let down for me, especially as the only non human party member. Neither were a whole lot useful for me in battles or added much to their games' plot, but Amarant seemed more powerful and dynamic since he starts off playing for the other team.
- His hairstyle rocks. Karu
- Kimahri was my third main party member in FFX, because I like his appearance and he had Jump. I though he was a Dragoon, and without doubt choose him for my party. When I discovered he had to choose another character's path, I though "Wow, now I can have a cooler black mage than Lulu". It took me many time to understand he was a poor imitation, a "second-rate" copy of another character as someone told before me. And I was against Jecht then. Really, I never had Amarant in my party in FFIX. I always took Zidane, Garnet, Vivi and Steiner, and sometimes Eiko, Freya or Quina. But never Amarant, so I can't evaluate his skills in battle. In spite of that, is really HARD, if not impossible, be more useless than Kimahri, and I like Amarant's looking too. Besides, I consider a MNK/NIN (Monk+Ninja) a more "natural" combination of jobs. A DRG/BLU is a great idea, but in Kimahri's case is a failureDragoon+failureBlue Mage, so MNK/NIN win by far. In plot terms, Kimahri win, basically because I don't remember a thing of Amarant, and reading here I understand why. Both characters have things for voting them, and things for voting against them, but Kimahri had more against than Amarant. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 15:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Somewhat useful char vs. Kimahri. Easy to choose. Kupuntu 18:49, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't really like either of them, but you've got to admit that Amarant is more useful. Kimahri's talk about "Kimahri not big strong Ronso Warrior" made me want to douse my television in gasoline. Violetmage
- I think Kimari is a good character in the plot, but less important in battle: his attack power is not so powerful as Tidus's or Auron's and his Skill are not so useful as Magic or others... Anyway it's a good choice but not the best I think, his skills are not the best and his Turbo is not so useful... I think Amarant, although it's not my choice in my perfect party, it's better: his physical attacks are strong, but not stronger enough as Steiner or Zidane, anyway, it's a underestimate choice and his skills are useful, I vote for Amarant but doubting... Josep
- Two words: Ninja-Monk. More words: A monk that acts like a ninja, Or a Blue mage that tries to act like a Dragoon, whose Blue Magic only works when he's in overdrive? Amarant is way better than Kimahri in that respect... Yath 13:43 (1:43 PM), 27 May 2009 ~
- he is just gr8 better than kimhari anyday lol
- Why didn't someone tell me that my suggestion made it? Eh, I wouldn't have listened anyway, I have been way too busy. And anyway, the fight is supposed to be about how both of them have two class types that no one can figure out if they are one or the other. Amarant is a Ninja and Monk(which is why I am voting for him) and Kimari is a Dragoon and Blue Mage(a close second in class types). It is also interesting because both of these characters have been shoved into the background by characters whose rolls in the plot run much deeper and have more meaning. - Ninja of Wind - 23:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- In my book, wolves top lions. Now on to the fight. I think Amarant has more usefulness than Kimahri. Also, he basically just punches the crap out of things, and when not punching, he's using some Flair move. Enough said in my opinion. Majyk 01:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't like either of them but I prefer IX over X, so my vote goes to Amarant. --StragusLore 02:28, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, Dragoons, but I'll have to let you down.Xepscern Highwind
- Amarant has the best Trance and Kimahrit -- ergh. George B. (talk) 16:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- Counter Magic+No Mercy+Curse+Throw= One of the best and effective IX Characters. He was good with magic AND physicals, and if memory serves me correctly, he could restore MP Captain Darkblade
- Kimahri wasn't that useful in 10, so im voting for the useful one User:Murmilo
Anonymous Votes
- Elan + Aura + 50 spirit = invincibility71.247.251.194 23:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think i remember actually using Amarant for slightly more than the fights that you're required to use him in, which is more than i can say for Kimahri. As characters, they do almost nothing for the story, though Amarant does slightly more. 76.234.96.44 23:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- I love Amarant, his skills are amazingly useful and he always ends up in my final roster. I just wish he had more substance to the story. Also he has a kickass theme, red dreads and the pointiest chin in FF history. 86.8.60.61
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Votes for Kimahri
- ScatheMote 15:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Phantom-Knight Amarant's character development is really minute. His impact on the game in the story side is really not that moving.. and the way his character was made was really lame cuz there really was no sentimental connection to the game whatsoever.. unlike Kimahri where the game gave the spotlight to him and his value to the team both in the story side and in the grinding part is really great.. aside from the chakra skill of Amarant which i really loved Kimahri overshadows the redhaired dude.. sorry bro.. go Tarzan i mean Kimahri!
- I've just started IX, so my vote goes to the game I have already played, X. Go go Kimahri! The Final Annihilator
- I have more sympathy for Kimahri than Amarant. At first, Kimahri comes off as the silent giant powerhouse of the group, but as the game advances, he's actually a quite pathetic outcast among his kind, which was honestly surprising. I don't have anything to say about his battle skills, though. SamSandy 19:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- I despise Amarant, I think his character is horrible and I never liked using him. Kimahri doesn't talk much but he is a good character. He is an honorable, caring character who will put his life on the line to save anyone. Amarant on the other hand only cares about himself, pfft. Go Kimahri! :) BoAKaN 21:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Amarant is completely hallow and lacking of character. Seriously, I'm voting against my favorite game, and for my most hated? That's saying something. Template:BfDsig
- The person above me means "hollow." "Hallow" means "holy." In any case, I don't really care about either of them. But, since I know something about Kimahri, & I can't even tell what Amarant IS, I'm voting for the Ronso.Neo Bahamut 22:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm voting for the guy you can put in any job class! Cluna 06 02:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm surprised that I'm actually voting for a X character versus a IX character... especially since the character is Kimarhi... But, you see, I don't like Amarant. When you see him standing next to his castmates in IX, he's just not that great (in comparison). I actually like Kimarhi... when I think about it ahah. I really like his relationship with Yuna, and the fact that he's just a good guy with good morals. So, I'm siding with Kimarhi on this one Yzz 03:09, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ehh, Amarant didn't really seem very significant in the plotline to me. Khimari actually had more of an in-depth meaning to his game. Plus, a blue body works MUCH better for a Ronso than it does for a human being. (Still never understood what that skin condition of Amarant's was. xD)--JohnnyC 03:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Master Conjurer 03:31, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- FF X is my first FF game i got and Kimahri is a strong character if used in the right way. my vote stays with the lil ronso#NocturnisEstra100 09:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Makes the cast of FFX a hell of a lot more bearable by diluting the annoyances BritPenance 10:46, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Gonna give some love to Kimahri partly because I slightly acknwoledges his existence in the game only because I had to beat the crap out of him and because he wasnt a character who was slightly self absorbed. Having Kimahri done something for the other people in the game. Plus X was the game I started with gotta give it some love xD Cryss
- MechaUltimaZero 11:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC): Kimahri was actually one of my best characters on my second time through it. I haven't played IX at all, so I can't judge Amarant at all, but Kimahri can (with the proper strategy and equipment setups) use his Overdrive at LEAST every two or three turns. Can Amarant use Trance every single battle for the entire battle without reverting more than once? I think not.
- I'm a furry so... Kuzlalala Squee! 12:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Kimahri has much more character development than Amarant, not to mention he is extremely powerful in lower stages. He's also awesome. - Henryacores^ 15:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Amarant is an over used, cliched stereotype. Even if Kimahri is a stereotype (which I doubt), its under utilized. Plus, IX was a generally dissapointing game for me.--Werefang 17:09, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- I really hate Kimahri but since i don't know much about much about Amarant i'll vote for himDestriker73 09:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- ronso rage beats elan that simple the 6th angel
- BlueLionheart (T/C) 00:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
- He can easily get Holy and other high White Magics before Yuna does! You just have to spend a long time with him sitting in one place waiting on the right Key Sphere. But I'll admit that this vote is mainly for never having played IX. Nashblade
- Genesis rhapsodos: Kimahri is just a deeper character and can become more useful than Amarant in my opinion. #Genesis rhapsodos 05:51, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hornless! --Zephyrus11 05:55, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
- Because I actully used Kimahri in his game, plus he's blue. Blue > Green/Red. Armageddon11! 11:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
- Amarant sucks in every way possible. He's worse than Tidus, Seplhie and Ultimecia rolled up all into one. Kimahri is awesome. He roars. 1stclasswarrior 18:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
- This vote mainly counts cause i dont know much about the other character, but Kimahri is pretty damn cool either way. I'd want him on my side in a fight anyday. Keiko2113
- Kimahri is the most awesome Ronso ever! His voice made me laugh and he had some pretty cool limit breaks FinalFantasyAerith
Anonymous Votes
- I found him more useful than Amarant, I almost never use the throw ability, pretty lame ability 69.108.107.247
- I'm not fond of voting against IX but Amarant was a sub par attacker and a pointless addition to the storyline; Kimhari provides steal early on in the game and can use Nova which is extremely useful, plus his love and devotion to Yuna is quite sweet.89.240.78.234 23:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Is Coral an awesome cat thing with a horn? No therefore kimhari is better
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Peanut Gallery
BfD considers Amarant "hallow"? I find that voting against someone that you revere as holy is odd... unless of course you meant "hollow". Sorry for mocking a spelling error/typo, but it was irresistable XD -- Sorceror Nobody 22:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Heh, I beat the "Grammar Nazi" to the "hallow" error -- SN
- Nope. Sorry. Look up in the votes for Kimahri: I got it there.Neo Bahamut 00:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- So 22:29 is earlier than 22:23? Check the history: yes, I accidentally made the above critique in the wrong place (sorry!), but I haven't changed the timestamp. I beat you, not that it matters, eh? -- Sorceror Nobody 17:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Don't know what you're talking about. Your vote came after my comment. I know, 'cause I was sorta there when I made it.Neo Bahamut 23:51, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- <sigh> Look at the very first comment in this Peanut Gallery. That's the "my comment" that I'm referring to, because I made it before you made your vote -- SN
Oh, joy, another fight I don't care about. I want mah Genesis vs. Kuja! I don't care that it's not my suggestion, it's like the perfect fight, and it may actually get me to vote against FFVII.Neo Bahamut 22:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- I got tongue-tied--finger tied--whatever. You'll notice I said "your vote," when you stated it in a comment, & I said "my comment," when I stated it in a vote. I got that part backwards. What I am absolutely certain I am right about is this: My comment & vote was before your interjection. The gallery was empty when I started editing, & while I'm not sure whether or not it made it through FIRST, I did not see your comment in here until a subsequent visit, when I was prompted via E-mail that there were changes (your comment) to the DNC. The talk of time stamps and whatnot is completely irrelevent to me, as I know what I saw. You stated that you put your comment in the wrong place. Did you perhaps put it in the wrong article? Or in the votes? Because I haven't been reading them.Neo Bahamut 22:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- I put it in the wrong place because I'd put it above the thing in here that says <!-- Place your comments below this line-->. In fact, you say you didn't see it, but it was you that removed it the edit you made after mine! Don't believe me? I provide undisputable proof in the form of the page history: click here -- SN
- No one cares about Genesis 89.240.78.234 23:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Tell that to the 8 or so votes for the fight.Neo Bahamut 00:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- At least three of which are excited to see Genesis get his ass kicked by Kuja. 92.26.102.36 12:31, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- And I don't give a shit about Kuja. The.DreadnoughT 03:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Nod.* From what I understand, a lot of people don't. Really, I like 'em both. Despite the manthong & the fanfic-starting that Kuja and Genesis are guilty of, respectively.Neo Bahamut 04:34, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'd also like to see Kuja and Genesis fight. It would be interesting to see. TheBlueDragoon 23:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
- Woohoo! I'm not alone in this!Neo Bahamut 00:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've been hoping that one comes up for a while. Kuja and Genesis in the DNC. It would be a sight to see. It's got a good amount of support. I also would like to see my Mog vs Red XIII sometime soon. TheBlueDragoon 18:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- I want mah Yuna vs. Aerith! But, I've pretty much given up hope for that, & am throwing my support behind Genesis vs. Kuja.Neo Bahamut 21:31, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- Kimahri isn't exactly getting a lot of love. We've had one-sided fights before. A lot, actually. Sephiroth vs. Kuja was put up as a winning candidate, & those 2 really have nothing in common, besides being a main villain. And I didn't care about this fight or the last one. So, give me one good reason the fight shouldn't go through that can't be traced back to your personal opinion. (I have a topic on Rin's that, in its life, was VERY excited to see Genesis in the DNC, so you are obviously mistaken. Not gonna dig it up, though, as it should be fairly obvious that 3/8 does not "everyone not giving a shit" make.)Neo Bahamut 23:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Cryss Haha I would have to vote for Genesis and I would be more than happy to have an argument with Neo Bahamut over it ;) Anyway this fight didnt really interest me at all I threw down a vote for Kimahri because I kinda felt sorry for him considering him to be the underdog but this is definitely not a fight I honestly care the result of. Oh yeah Kimahri was slightly better IMO xD
- I'd have a hard time deciding between the 2. I've never played IX, but Kuja sounds like a pretty good character, & whenever I can, I try to picture the DNC like a battle, which Kuja would most definately win. Genesis is powerful, but Kuja's magic outclasses his. In all honesty, though, I would probably just vote for whoever was losing after a few days.Neo Bahamut 22:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Whoever said Amarant can hit 9999 and Kimahri can't is wrong...Kimahri can hit 99999, as well as every character in X. So your reasoning to vote for Amarant is flawed. Just saying. BoAKaN 02:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ugh I know! A lot of FF characters can do 9999 damage, actually <.< Yzz 03:15, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- As long as we're nitpicking, she never said Kimahri couldn't hit 9999. Just sayin'.Neo Bahamut 06:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Nokareon: I know this is a rather belated reply, but first of all, I'm not a she. Also, my comment was in reference to Amarant in relation to the other characters in IX, not talking about X at all (correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that only Thievery/Frog Drop/Dragon Crest/No Mercy could deal 9999 in that game, making Zidane/Quina/Freya/Amarant the ideal team, this me saying Amarant was useful. Actually, after looking into it, it looks like Steiner can too, but whatever.)
- "and can actually hit 9999, making him not useless like Kimahri." The comment is being said as if Kimahri cannot hit 9999. Sorry but perhaps you should read carefully. Just sayin'...again. BoAKaN 07:48, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- I was reading a different one. And, to nitpick again, it's entirely possible that the vote could be taking relativity of damage between FFs into account. What does that mean? Well, it's kind of like what Rai Balmung says, below me.Neo Bahamut 23:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- But is really easy hit 9999 (and more) in FFX. It isn't in FFIX (I didn't remember me hitting more than 7k, but I can be mistaken). Ah, can you fix your vote? The Rikku's picture of your sign took a second vote. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 15:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I almost felt like drop kicking Master Conjurer for his supposed Twitter link, but I laughed my ass off instead; I'm curious, so sue me User:Leiber_Mage
- If you want to follow me on Twitter, the link on my user page is real. Master Conjurer 11:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually it was more about 'why would you put twitter in a vote?' then anything else XD User:Leiber_Mage
- It was part of my signature. It was everywhere I've conversed. Master Conjurer 19:36, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I see, nevermind then XP User:Leiber Mage
*sigh*OK, somebdy voted for Kimahri when they said that they hated him. Look people, if you hate somebody, then you shouldn't vote for them in the DNC unless you hate the other guy even more! MechaUltimaZero 11:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
There's quite a lot of unsigned votes up there... :/ SamSandy 08:51, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Maybe the anonymous users need a visual aid...
While editing, your vote should look something like this example:
#This is an example of a signed (and therefore correct) anonymous vote that will actually count, rather than wasting your time. ~~~~
When you click Preview, it looks something like
- This is an example of a signed (and therefore correct) anonymous vote that will actually count, rather than wasting your time. 1.2.3.4
So now that you have two examples of how to do it, GO SIGN YOUR DAMN VOTES (then sit down and drink your goddamned tea!), you anonymous people! The.DreadnoughT 17:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Lately I've started to get the feeling that the "sign your votes" reminders seems to be needed even among non-anonymous users. there is at least one vote for each character that's in the registered section and isn't signed in any way, wouldn't those be deleted as well? Celythia
Hated them both, never used either. - Saraija Merinas
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