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#Agrias is more awesome. --{{User:BlueHighwind/Sig}} 04:44, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
#Agrias is more awesome. --{{User:BlueHighwind/Sig}} 04:44, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
# I really can't decide, so I'll put my vote in for the underdog again. [[User:FabulousFreebird|Free bird]] 08:59, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
# I really can't decide, so I'll put my vote in for the underdog again. [[User:FabulousFreebird|Free bird]] 08:59, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
#Came from a better game. [[User:Lolcakes|<font color=#660088 size=3 face=gothice>L</font>]][[User_talk:Lolcakes|<font color=#660088 size=3 face=gothice>C</font>]] 09:29, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

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Fight 182 - Last Man Standing Round 2: Cecil Harvey v. Agrias Oaks

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CECIL Harvey
Cecil Harvey, Dark Knight turned Paladin, faces off against one of the only other Paladins in Final Fantasy to ever score a victory in the DNC, Agrias Oaks, hero of the War of the Lions! VICTOR

Votes for Cecil

  1. Cecil redeemed himself from being a Dark Knight, he makes becomeing a Paladin that much better.AaaaaThe Nemesisx 00:41, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Lord Cecil Harvey went from Dark Knight to Paladin, forsaking his bloodstained past. He endured the betrayal of his closest friend and managed in the end to forgive his brother. He led his party throughout an epic quest to save his world from genocide. Agrias is skilled, but she just doesn't stand a chance Dogurasu 01:02, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Once again, Cecil is by far the better choice. Whoever Agrias is can't come close to Cecil's achievements. Not only did he save the world and the moon once, he did it again with his son almost two decades later. Only a true Paladin can accomplish those feats.--Time Master 03:21, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
  4.  < Kamikaze Pardee > 04:31, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Mainstream > Spin-off. KaiserPaladin 06:55, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
  6. THIS IS BARON! オメガ Mk.XII 09:25, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

Votes for Agrias

  1. Partially a pity vote because nobody here plays Tactics for some reason, partially because if they had the same damage limit Agrias would beat Cecil every time.Template:Catuse167/sig00:39, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Easily one of the best characters in FFT. She's not much of a character, but neither is Cecil. ...Yeah. ClixPsi 01:48, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Agrias beat Sephiroth. I am of the opinion that if Agrias loses to Cecil, then by that implication, Cecil is better than Sephiroth. This eventuality simply cannot be. Jimcloud 03:21, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Agrias is more awesome. ----BlueHighwind 04:44, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
  5. I really can't decide, so I'll put my vote in for the underdog again. Free bird 08:59, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
  6. Came from a better game. LC 09:29, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. I'm voting to show my love for Tactics.-- 03:29, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
  2. While she gets very little character development, she's still a more versatile Paladin than Cecil, and Tactics was a great game to boot. 04:42, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery

@Dogu: Nah, she doesn't stand a chance because people never played Tactics. Oh, and sign your votes this time, all ye anonymous users! :DTemplate:Catuse167/sig01:05, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

I always felt like...Agrias has just hardly any personality. Her whole character is that she is a female knight, which is just a bit more novel than having a male knight. If she was a male knight and still said and did all the same things, no one would remember this character.Keltainentoukokuu 03:36, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Now, let's be fair here, that's sort of calling the kettle black. Cecil's personality is basically the same as Agrias's, in that it is transparent and vaguely knightly. The only difference is that he happens to be the protagonist of his story, and he kind of has to be redeemed before he can parade around with the same attitude as her. Also, Agrias's personality is kind of novel in FFT, where she is one of like 10 named characters who will not betray or attack you in pursuit of their own goals. Jimcloud 03:49, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
I guess when I said personality I didn't mean the person's actual personality. More like when you say has personality or something. I don't have any strong feelings toward Cecil, but he's alright. He's the typical knight archetype but they add some conflict in his story to bring out different sides of him.Keltainentoukokuu 03:58, January 16, 2012 (UTC)\

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Fight 181 - Last Man Standing Round 1:Leon v. Cecil Harvey

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It would only make sense that the first two combatants would be the first two from the DNC's original format: Leon and Cecil Harvey, two early Dark Knights from the series. Who will prevail to fight on in Round 2! VICTOR
Cecil Harvey

Votes for Leon

  1. I have never liked Cecil. ClixPsi 05:33, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  2. I love Cecil, unquestionably one of the most endearing protagonists in the series, but I hafta put my vote in for the original Dark Knight! Free bird 06:23, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  3. I'm voting for the one that waits more than ten minutes to cease being a dark knight. Master Conjurer 23:41, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Cecil's Good but Leon should take this one, from heving his home destroyed, he was able to take over and command an army --Pzykosiz 00:52, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Leon was the first in a long glorious tradition of Darth Vader copies in Final Fantasy. ----BlueHighwind 01:18, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
  6. I'll go ahead and give Leon some love since he doesn't seem to be getting much. I wasn't all that impressed with IV, for all the hype I hear for it. Lord Knight Xiron 03:34, January 7, 2012 (UTC)Lord Knight Xiron
  7. Hail to the original Dark Knight. --RAMUser talk:Ramallah 11:08, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

Votes for Cecil

  1. I dunno what Last Man Standing is, but I do know that Cecil is a much better character.Template:Catuse167/sig00:04, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Tru that.. LegendCrystarium Crystal LightningAqua 00:28, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Cecil is the better character overall.AaaaaThe Netherealm awaits for you 00:36, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  4. The armor, man. Can't be a proper Dark Knight without the right armor! King of Noobs 02:57, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  5.  < Kamikaze Pardee > 03:47, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  6. Drake Clawfang (talk) 04:36, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  7. オメガ Mk.XII 05:58, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  8. MateusNamelink Dissicon ff2 Emp1 06:12, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  9.  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1 06:50, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  10. --Occuria Summoner 18:40,January 1 ,2012(UTC)
  11. I have played to the end both Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy II, and I can say for sure, Cecil has more integrity, is more honorable, has better values, and more loyal to his friends and family than Leon.CecilAxel 21:28, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  12. Cecil easy. Though all the 4th party members in FFII were much cooler than the main 3, Leon wasn't since he's the original real 4th and thus, just as boring as Firion, Maria and Guy.AnonyMan 04:15, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  13. The story of his redemption is sad but touching. Mierna 05:23, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  14. I do love Cecil when he's a Dark Knight. --Miyuron 07:39, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  15. Are You Serious! Is this a Joke? And what is this "Last Man Standing Thing"? I hope that this wouldn't go on for 2 months like the last poll did! Anyways Cecil FTW! KaiserPaladin 08:34, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  16. I like Leon and all but Cecil will outrank him in every way for me, he's my favorite dissidia character and since ff4 was the first ff i finished it has to be Cecil for me Kaintheflaminglancer 10:50, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  17. Cecil, certainly. Not only the first to bear the Darkside power that became a Dark Knight staple, but also a noble knight in his own right. Dogurasu 12:06, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  18. Another obvious winner. *sigh* LC 23:29, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  19. I'm not into Cecil, but if it is about "Dark Knights" unfortunatelly Leon did "nothing" that is of the Dark Knights we know about. --BGMaxie 00:01, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
  20. Cecil will always be Cthulhu's favorite. --Thegreatcthulhu 03:00, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
  21. Is it wrong that I have a fangirl crush on this gorgeous, gorgeous man? Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle 13:56, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
  22. Too easy... Dissidia 012 ChaosCoolawitsDissidia 012 Cosmos 21:30, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
  23. Cecil is greater than Leon for numerous reasons; including becoming something greater than a Dark Knight, and not betraying the party to an evil ruler. Also, He was the character I used to kill Chaos in the original Dissidia. There is no contest here. --Time Master 00:59, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
  24. Light and Dark; Virtue and Sin.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 01:23, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
  25. My FFII keeps stuffing up and I've never played as Leon before. Plus FFIV is pretty awesome anyway! KungKungKung 07:02, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
  26. 2ea674f6.pngKujaBox 15:44, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
  27. I dislike Leon because he was actually stupid enough to try to displace Emperor Mateus as the supreme ruler of Palamecia and failed. Go Cecil! --Marael 21:21, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
  28. I like cecil and also leon...but i have to give more credit to cecil because leon doesnt appear in the whole ff2 until the end....all the hardwork was for firion,guy and maria...and i think minwu,josef,gordon or ricard were better party members than he was.--Lunar-project 01:20, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
  29. SomeDudE X 12:21, January 8, 2012 (UTC) Even tho Leon came before Cecil, cecil will always be the original dark knight in my opinion. SomeDudE X 20:20, January 8, 2012
  30. HotTacos7 02:23, January 9, 2012 (UTC) No offence to Leon, but Cecil had much more development and you don't get him in the last quarter of the game
  31. MystRay 01:50, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. To the sky! Blinking Blade! -- 00:40, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
  2. I like Cecil. -- 23:01, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
  3. We love you, Cecil 15:44, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
  4. 17:38, January 11, 2012 (UTC) Going to have to vote for Cecil. Besides, He is the main character in his game, unlike Leon. Leon is like the Bakura of his game (if anyone gets the reference to a certain anime parody I will be very happy : D )

Peanut Gallery

Landslide, Cecil is so gona win.AaaaaThe Nemesisx 15:05, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Enter all the Leon fans with a resounding chorus of CHALLENGE ACCEPTED. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle 15:13, January 4, 2012 (UTC) XD.AaaaaThe Nemesisx 22:39, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Personally I wonder if the inclination towards Cecil is because FFII is (comparatively) more obscure than FFIV. I could be wrong. Luacas 11:02, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

I'll agree to that. I grew up thinking FFIV WAS FFII, until I got my hands on Dawn of Souls. King of Noobs 03:04, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

'daaaaaw. This isn't gonna run late again, is it? D: Template:Catuse167/sig04:26, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Just a heads up voters. I'm afraid all unsigned votes and votes in the wrong place will need to be removed. You can vote again, only please make sure to sign it. :)Keltainentoukokuu 19:28, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Fight 180: Laguna, Ward and Kiros v. Jecht, Braska and Auron

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Laguna, Kiros and Ward
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Braska Artwork
Auron Art
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The FFX Crew
Years before the son saved the world,
the father and his comrades did the same.
The FFX Crew

Votes for Team Esthar

  1. Laguna is so awesome and I think that he's hilarious. He is one of my favorite characters!! <3<3<3<3
  2. The man with the machine gun. ~Shadow Catuse's favorite character 05:25, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  3. You could actually take part in these guys' adventures.Keltainentoukokuu 05:34, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  4. 2ea674f6.pngKujaBox 06:40, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  5. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 19:40, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  6.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 21:34, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  7. Voting for the better game and the better characters. SquallRocks FFXIII - Sprite-MadLightning21:57, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Me voting for the side that has Laguna and pals? Well that's just absurd!  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1 22:03, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Where's my FFVIII shooter prequel with Laguna? DiamondEdge 22:43, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  10. GlassAngel13 22:46, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Koharu Nami 22:51, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  12. FF8 all the way. --Sencilia 11:32, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Takes out baddies with guns! --Nerdy geek bk 12:13, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  14. I feel more connected with them for I actually got to us 'em Vercery 1:08, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Laguna and friends are superior to the other group. squall would not exist without Laguna, and time would be compressed. The SeeDs would be stuck in the d-district prison without Ward. Laguna might have been killed by a Ruby Dragon without Kiros. Plus Laguna is the president of the most technologically advanced nation in ff8. So he could easily best the spirans, with his resources. Furthermore, all three members of the other group end up dead at some point. Also, Jecht defects to the chaos side in the 13th cycle of dissidia, due to the emperor's manipulations,in the 12th cycle. A traitor, a failed warrior monk, and a summoner who gave up his own life do not make for a good group. Clearly, Laguna Kiros and Ward are far better, and benefited their world more than the other group, who simply brought and received death. Team Esthar all the way! --Time Master 21:12, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Gotta go with these guys. Braska's crew is cool for sure and a shame they weren't playable FFX doesn't have any cool playable characters(Old Auron's lame, Yeah,what?!). More style, more personality better camaraderie and interactions. And I guess "Man with the Machine Gun" helps.AnonyMan 23:10, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Must the battle just be because of strength? I thought these guys had a great dynamic, and you learn so much more about them than just ambiguous snippets like with the Auron, Jecht and Braska group. I liked these guys better, because they were humorous, and yet still a pretty decent group. It ain't just about who kicks who's butt, after all. Luacas 09:38, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Free bird 14:24, November 4, 2011 (UTC) Laguna, Kiros, and Ward all the way!
  19. Laguna is beast and thats all i have to say Kaintheflaminglancer 16:22, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  20. obvioulsy these guys WILL win and are the best team ever--Squall 2.0 17:07, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Laguna grew to be quite annoying when I went back and played this game when I got older, but his getting lost remained hilarious "The unfamiliar always happens, didn't your grandparents tell you that?" Yet, I really liked Kiros and Ward had a harpoon. I also dislike Jecht greatly. Easy vote here. --Gunji 04:08, November 12, 2011 (UTC)
  22. FF8 was my first ff game, gotta vote for team esthar, even if they have the wrong map and all the stomach cramps--{user:Rasma}
  23. I feel like Team Galbadia would actually lose in a fight against the other three, but Braska's too one-note for me, and Kiros is the man. Laguna actually makes a funny hero who's also a decent human being. LAGUNA POWNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I vote for Laguna Kiros and Ward.

FF8 was my first game ever! I love Laguna he is so funny! Kiros and Ward are great too! TEAM ESTHAR!!!!-[User-FFVIII201) Team Esthar Wins!

  1. Team Esthar forever! They've got... better storylines! --SWZala (talk) 03:40, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. Laguna is the best dad that you could ever wish for! With his leg cramps and whatnot. <3<3<3<3 ~ 7:14pm November 28, 2011
  2. Because they're awesome :D 22.54 November 2, 2011
  3. Laguna was my second best character in Duodecim, and Kiros is awesome. I never played X, and so.
  4. 20:40, November 3, 2011 (UTC) EXPAND YOUR HORIZONTALS! But, Laguna scored -3 on the manliness scale. This team is much more entertaining!
  5. 23:25, November 3, 2011 (UTC)Braska's team is cool and all, but I can't go against Laguna :D
  6. Go Laguna, Kiros, and Ward!
  7. Dani - Laguna, Kiros, and Ward all the way. Great characters, amusing, and pretty badass fighters.
  8. So much better than everybody else and FAR more entertaining! Plus, actually interactive
  9. They're so cool.
  10. Love laguna so much! 12.19 November 11 2011
  11. I liked Braska's team but I LOVE LAGUNA'S TEAM! GO GO GO!
  12. Cool daddy. 'Nuff said.
  13. well, i really like "man with the machine gun" theme a lot better than-... wait, did they have a specific kinda song? i also think they had much more dynamic and were more entertaining... though i do prefer tidus to squall, with the big daddys, i'd have to vote laguna and his team.
  14. My favorite game is FF8, and perhaps Laguna and his friends, though silly, may be one of the best trios! They get my vote though Team Spira is also awesome.
  15. laguna, kiros, and ward didn't die. plain and simple.
  16. 11:26, December 6, 2011 (UTC) I like how they didn't die. And I dislike the other three. :P
  1. Nobody can ever defeat this team, is just perfect, the funny guy (Laguna), the stupid one (Ward) and the clever (Kiros), and, incredible fighters the three of them.

Laguna Kiros and Ward!

Votes for Team Spira

  1. Auron, need I say more? -- Mgold07 18:39, December 15 2011 (GMT)
  2. Team Spira... doesn't get leg cramps. --Nyves 01:55, November 27, 2011 (UTC)
  3. This trio has two badasses between them, not just one. Drake Clawfang (talk)
  4. I have stop voting here, but sense Drake set up this fight I might well vote here again!  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 04:52, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  5. LegendCrystarium Crystal LightningAqua 05:31, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Three people to ironically defeat Sin for the win! Mierna 05:51, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  7.  < Kamikaze Pardee > 21:16, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Braska's a summoner, thus, can cast magic! Also, I wanna game with them! Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 21:31, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Team Spira, the fact they were all badass, and all looked down upon by everyone, just to rub it in everyone's face --Pzykosiz 22:02, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  10. User_talk:Ciccoslovakia) 18:04 November 2, 2011 (EST)
  11. MystRay 22:44, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Nothing beats Auron and Jecht. Braska is pretty cool too, but only because he can summon stuff. --Miyuron 00:03, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  13. ClixPsi 04:13, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  14. オメガ Mk.XII 06:40, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Team Spira is a +3 on the manliness scale. SidVI Dissicon ff7 Tifa2 13:34, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  16. This is the game that FFX should have been. Plus Yuna. Yuna x Jecht, by the way. --BlueHighwind 15:47, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Laguna's team is a pretty good one! So modern and everything... but still, I'm sure they could never beat a Brutal team like the Spirans (Summons, samurai swords, and Aeons...)... Sorry Loire! :-(--Lonely Wild Rose Rose 17:13, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Master Conjurer 18:39, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  19. This isn't a fair fight at all. The legendary summoner, and two badass swordsman vs a few elite soldiers. Although I hate to vote against one of my favorite band of heroes, these three would most certainly dominate in battle.Crunchy Moogle 22:41, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Auron! :D --Hotdragon 295 23:24, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Is this even a competition? Any single member of team Spira could beat the VIII crew, let alone all 3. Not that I don't like Kiros and my love for Laguna blossomed after Dissidia012. But really they can't compare. Hell they can't compare to YRP and I don't like them. Battlewise LKW is kind of crappy. Bahamut knows best 01:38, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  22. Because I like FFX and these three characters, I was actually thinking on how awesome it would be if they made spin-off with this three's story--Xabryn 11:06, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  23. MMLN メーマウリアン 16:50, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Rictisempra 22:55, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  25. Any team Jecht is on will win!!! Biziorek 04:31, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  26. Easy choice, the bad-ass trio from one from one of my favorite FF titles. Never cared for Laguna anyway, i find his character a little too silly. TheWOL Dissicon ff1 WoL4 05:03, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  27.  Ultimate Gullwings logo Annihilation   17:29, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  28. Auron alone could beat them. Jecht is also cool. --RazielZero 23:49, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  29. Auron :3 Thundara 21:04, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
  30. Auron + Jecht = Winning Destriker73 11:39, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
  31. I'm really hoping for a X-0 about these guys. Plus I actually liked the regular storyline better than the flashbacks in VIII. AlVan 14:12, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
  32. FFX is the best!! I really hope just like AlVan that they make a game just for them! Can't wait for the re-make of FFX!!--ElivierAeternus 10:34, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
  33. Team Braska: 2 badasses and brought peace to the world, Team Laguna: 1 bad ass, and got nearly killed in a mission. hmmmm tough choice Judge Magister Pyarox 21:21, November 9, 2011 (UTC)
  34. I've nothing to say except MAKE THE FFX PREQUEL GAME ALREADY. --AuronKaizer! 14:51, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
  35. I'll second the above statement. --TeaTime 02:41, November 12, 2011 (UTC)
  36. Someone mentioned that Braska can summon giant things to smash people? (the GF don't even compare to his Final Summoning, in my opinion =D). (Master Lamington 21:49, November 13, 2011 (UTC))
  37. Simple: Final Fantasy X > Final Fantasy VIII....fact --XOneWingedAngelx 22:59, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
  38. Sorry Uncle Laguna, gotta go with the h4x team. (≧ロ≦) --Silver Mage 17:06, November 20, 2011 (UTC)
  39. Auron Jeckt and Braska would have been a great team for a Prequel to ffx plus other than laguna i dont like the other team but there song is awesomeUser: L'cieBeast 12:41, November 22, 2011 (UTC)
  40. I am voting just because I like Auron. --{{SUBST:User:Dark Heart XIII/Sig2}} 10:47, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
  41. Gangstas. bibliomaniac15 07:58, November 25, 2011 (UTC)
  42. FINALLY! A battle between DILF's! I'm so getting in on this! I vote for Team Spira mainly because of the fan service that is Jecht's outfit. --Marael 19:17, November 26, 2011 (UTC)
  43. Definitely goin with the trio from Spira on this one. I love the futuristicy feel from VIII, but nothing holds a candle to Blitzball. Zidane Tr1bal 5:49
  44. Damn straight. You know it. SteveTalk 02:25, December 13, 2011 (UTC)
  45. With all due respect to the opponent (well, not sure if I really feel any) TEAM SPIRA looks way more badass!!!! MUAHAHAHAHA! :D Revyielle 03:07, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
  46. I liked Laguna, Ward and Kiros but they have got nothing on High Summoner Braska and his guardions Auron and Jecht (we seriously need a FFX prequel so we can play as the three) AaaaaThe Netherealm awaits for you 03:12, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
  47. PREQUEL! PREQUEL! PREQUEL!--KiraArik 00:16, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
  48. OccuriaSummoner16:30,December 19,2011(UTC)Go guys!
  49. LTFabrettiChocobo Dragoon 15:23, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
  50. Oh my... What we have to say? C'mon Braska can do a sending! He can't summon a FINAL

AEON! AEON! O__O' (Master Lamington 22:12, December 24, 2011 (UTC))

Anonymous Votes

  1. Team Spira seems to have the advantage cause Jecht can transform, Auron is already dead, and Braska can summon.
  2. Jecht wears a bandana therefore he is awesome
  3. 1 Auron and Jecht are major damage dealers and Braska has access to magic and summoning so go team Spira November 2, 4:51 PM
  4. Jecht, Auron, and Braska saved the world once. What has Languana and his group done, honestly? Michael November 2, 10:19 PM
  5. Two swordsman beat 3 gunners, thats obvious espcially when the swordsman are some of the most important characters. Plus Auron puts the badass in badass!
  6. As much as I love "Man with the Machine Gun" you can't headbang to it like you can to "Otherworld". Sorry Laguna!
  7. X>VIII 10:35, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  8. 'Cuz these are cool guys.
  9. Team Auron 00:39, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  10. Jecht alone is overkill for these guys throw in auron who again is overkill alone and braska and your basicly beating up children November 7 2011
  11. Just for Auron, probably the best fighter we will ever know
  12. Braska's final Aeon and magic sake. Aeons kill GFs any day so eat it Laguna!
  13. 15:51, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
  14. 23:21, November 18, 2011 (UTC) This might be one of the few times I vote for X over any other game. I do like Laguna, Kiros, and Ward, but these guys are a bit more badass.
  15. # 20:03, November 21, 2011 (UTC), Jecht would totally kick Laguna's ass.
  16. Jecht <3
  17. You have to love these guys. Especially Jecht.
  18. Go guys!
  19. Jecht in BFA form could handle a few mere guns if It can crack open the armour on a giant GODZILLA WHALE! let alone what Auron has done to people with guns throughout FFX and Braska can proably fight too.
  20. X>VIII.

Peanut Gallery

TA deputized me to put up a new fight this week. That Auron-Jecht-Braska stuff was a pain to code properly. Why couldn't they just have one nice groupshot? Laguna and his friends were nice and considerate -_- Doreiku Kuroofangu 04:50, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't quite fit in the Oasis skin. Need it a liiitle narrower still.Keltainentoukokuu 05:32, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
Well that's your fault for using Oasis :) (ps - I already knew, didn't care, largely because it took about an hour to get those artworks aligned like that in Monobook, wasn't gonna redo it for Oasis). Doreiku Kuroofangu 05:40, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
NOTHING widescreen works in Oasis. Monobook is seriously the layout with the machine gun. ~Shadow Catuse's favorite character 05:43, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

You may want to update this battle on the mainpage as well.Keltainentoukokuu 17:38, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Right, thanks. Doreiku Kuroofangu 17:57, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
I wasn't trying to be snarky or anything if that's how it sounded. I was thinking I could do it, but then, I've never done it before, maybe I'll do it wrong.Keltainentoukokuu 18:02, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
Oh not at all, I was sincere, I forgot to update it last night. Don't worry about it. Doreiku Kuroofangu 18:03, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

It just occurred to me, after this fight has been up for a couple of weeks, this could have easily been subtitled "Battle of the cool old dudes." King of Noobs 14:53, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Here's how I'd imagine the fight: Ranged+Support!Laguna, Physical+Speed!Kiros, and Physical!Ward VS Physical+Defense!Auron, Defense+Support!Jecht, and Mage!Braska. I cannot decide the winner due to the moveset options of both games. Pikmin Master 17:55, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, my idea has been put here! After all these months, I'm quite happy. I can't decide a team, actually... --Crimson Jealous 02:19, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Fight 179: Zell Dincht v. Snow Villiers

Zell Dincht
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And so do the characters.

Votes for Zell

  1. Chicken Wuss for the win!!! (ChadOnTifa)
  2. 2ea674f6.pngKujaBox 03:16, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  3. YOU STUPID IDIOT - +DeadlySlashSword+ 03:24, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Oh yeah awesome!Keltainentoukokuu 04:57, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Well I'd vote Zell cause he's comic relief, while Snow...just isn't. I think I just prefer Zell for his part in the story. Luacas 12:21, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Mmm, hot dogs. --Sencilia 13:19, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  7. zell is funny, and has one of the best limit breaks in the game. give him max strength and use his basic inputs (booyah and punch rush) combined with meltdowneffect to do 9999 each hit, hitting 5 times per second if you're really good... do that for 5 seconds, that's 25 hits of 9999 dmg....he hits more then anybody else in ff8 (or any of the other ff-games, i believe). he wants to grow up to be just like his grandfather. hyyperactiveness ftw. User: Krikke 15.59, september 29, 2011 (UTC+1)
  8. BOOYAH Vercery 17:09, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  9. His game is actually worth a damn. Also, HOT DOGS. --AuronKaizer! 22:06, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  10. Moron vs Moron. Moron is a moron. Moron is not a moron. Which moron am I voting for? --BlueHighwind 23:57, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  11. SCROOOOOGE! Well, Zell has a T-Board and punches s*** up...Snow fights with a coat. I throw my hands up and say- SERAAAAAAH! Ya, Zell wins. Tia-Lewise 09:16, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  12. I hate Snow with a firey passion of a thousand burning suns that will melt him. SquallRocks FFXIII - Sprite-MadLightning01:46, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  13. The above vote says it all. MystRay 02:18, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Zell isn't engaged to a little kid, and with Junction he's no less useful in combat than anyone else. His Limits on the other hand are some of the most awesome and ridiculous looking stuff ever compared to one pitiful FullATB skill. His personality is cooler. ANYONE would seem annoying when Squall Stickinass is the protagonist.AnonyMan 19:14, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  15. He likes hot dogs. He has good taste. Catuse167 18:13, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  16. --Trindadex 17:40, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Omega Mk.XII 10:13, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  18. zell of course~his my final heaven totally pawn snow's souvereign fist #Aquila03 15:22, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  19. --Lonely Wild Rose Rose 20:25, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Zell has a more fun personality and is a great character to play. I find Snow to be a worthless egomaniac and an unneeded character since Fang is better than Snow in so many ways. I think a FFVIII without Zell would be a more boring game, whereas a FFXIII without Snow would be a better game. --TeaTime 01:52, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Final Fantasy VII.. 'nuff said Dodongray23 00:20, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
  22. VII wins my vote, hands down Button966 21:43, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
  23. Because... Because... AAAH HOT DOGS AAAH! Mister Tonberry 10:04, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
  24. I'v played VIII but not XIII. Zell is usually in my party when he can. NeoArcher ~My arrow is the last thing you will see~ 00:07, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  25. Yiazmat slayerz 10:07, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  26. Free bird 19:49, October 26, 2011 (UTC) I LOVE FFVIII and I think Zell is a great character! Haven't played FFXIII.

Anonymous Votes

  1. 07:28, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Love Zell! My favorite character in VIII. 18:25, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  3. VIII>XIII91.203.96.118 23:15, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  4. 08:37, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Zell is the man! His tattoo is awesome! Plus when I didn't get Squall in my final battle, Duel single-handedly bet Ultimecia-- 06:25, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
  6. 19:52, October 9, 2011 (UTC)Zell is so much better than Snow. Also, Zell has a really great love side quest if you bother to look for it.
  7. LANDSLIDE! And also I think Snow is quite stupid name, oh come on, Snow? Did he ever think he's Snow White or something?
  8. This is like bad versus worse...However, I like my obnoxious ass buddy way better than the moronic loli lover with zero appeal. Go Zell, go! 03:06, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
  9. 18:45, October 29, 2011 (UTC) ZELL!

Votes for Snow

  1. Koharu Nami 03:15, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Oh dear god what has become of me? But at least Snow is obsessed with a person and not hot-dogs. That gives him more points for me. Bahamut knows best 03:23, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  3. I'm sure being associated with the word "hero" is better than being with the word "chicken-wuss". Razordash03:55, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  4. @Razor:Definitely.  Clarent Caliburn Dissicon ff13 Lig3 04:04, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Consider them about equal, but Snow had a bigger impact on the plot than Zell did. ClixPsi 04:21, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Never played VIII, so Snow it is. A.J. two (Smashboards) 04:34, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  7. Interested to see Snow's role in XIII-2.  Kamikaze Pardee Dissicon ff5 Gil1 04:59, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Trindadex 19:22, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
  9. He has the Shiva Sisters! Another rather interesting note is the fact that he has a lot in common with one of my fanfic characters.  CloudyKrystal Dissicon ff7 Clo2 05:21, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  10. SidVI Dissicon ff7 Tifa2 06:20, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  11. ICE, ICE, BABY, and yeah He's got de Shiva Sisters! LegendCrystarium Crystal LightningAqua --VOTE IN THE LIGHTNING COLOSSEUM! 07:23, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  12. FFXIII > FFVIII. Besides Snow has a far better story and is more useful in battle. Not to mention he has a better personality. KaiserPaladin 07:33, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Wow this is hard, i love VIII and Zell but i love XIII and Snow more, The hero's always down!! TheWOL 08:33, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Eh, he has goals.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 08:35, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  15. zell limit breaks are copys and hard to find compared snow's simple stuff --Squall 2.0 10:23, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Look at their pictures!They have same poses! Orpheus 17 03:37, September 29, 20ll (UTC)
  17. While Snow chases his female feyonce the whole game, Zell chases hot dogs. And they say Sephiroth is overcompensating for something. AlVan 22:00, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Better personality, larger variety of attacks without a stock usage, awesome trench-coat like armor that boosts his melee prowess. Perhaps my second favorite character in XIII. King of Noobs 03:47, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  19. "Hey, Sis..." "I'm not your sister." Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 11:24, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  20. -Henryacores^ 14:21, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Snow isn't a Mike Tyson wannabe. Oddly enough though, every time I play VIII, I give Zell Shiva. XIII Lightning 18:18, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  22. Snow gets my vote because I found him more useful than Zell. Also, Mr. Villiers was only annoying for part of the game, compared to Zell's obnoxious antics during the entirety of Final Fantasy VIII. --Time Master 03:49, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  23. Snow and Zell were pathetically annoying. But Snow did more than whine. And had a worthwhile memory. And freakish strength wasn't because he junctioned 100 Ultimas to his Str. And... User:Zakiel Mori 04:18, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Haven't played FF13, but Snow can't possibly be more annoying and stupid than Zell. Drake Clawfang (talk)
  25. SΓΣamyGoreng 23:33, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  26. SnooooooooooW! Yaver 05:49, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  27. Snow helped me out a lot with his sentinel role. Zell wasn't much use to me and i rarely had him in my party.Kaintheflaminglancer 09:04, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  28. He actually has good reason for his "heroic" role. Mierna 11:43, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  29. ReteP 12:32, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  30. I like both of them... but Snow a little more. skygrinder14 10:39, )October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  31. --Hotdragon 295 19:09, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  32. Show doesn't take shit from anyone. --Pzykosiz 22:41, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  33. I don't like either of them, but I'd take XIII over VIII any day. --Miyuron 16:39, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
  34. Makoenergy99 02:37, October 6, 2011 (UTC)He's a damn good Sentinel and helped me beat down Vercigetorix. Positivity practically oozes from him too.
  35. --RazielZero 11:18, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
  36. Snow is in love with an actual character with a name, personality and past, not some random librarian. He may not be bright, but he's not dumb enough to choke himself eating hot dogs. Not to mention, he's an actual badass, unnecessary bravado aside. 5:12 October 9, 2011 BartleJaymes(UTC)
  37. Zell is cool but snow is just a big teddy bear who i just want to hug no homoUser:l'cieBeast 18:15, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
  38. Rictisempra 00:31, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
  39. 17:01, October 12, 2011 (UTC) Rinoa Leonheart
  40. --Dark Heart XIII 09:39, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
  41. As one of like ten people on the planet that love all the long cutscenes, the gameplay, and well pretty much everything about final fantasy xiii i vote snow all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!--GlassAngel13 09:15, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
  42. Haven't played FF8, and snow is the best sentinel.  Ultimate Gullwings logo Annihilation   19:09, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
  43. ZealKnight 18:58, October 27, 2011 (UTC) I hate both characters, but I think Snow is a better character than Zell. Which isn't saying much. Just barely better at least.
  44. Akay4 21:28, November 1, 2011 (UTC)I Vote for snow because of his manliness

Anonymous Votes

  1. 04:04, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  2. 04:42, September 29, 2011 (UTC) Hate FFXIII love VIII, and though Snow will most likely be ranked far on many FF fans most favorite character list, I gotta admit that Snow is a better character.
  3. Snow is hot. Very, very hot. And he has a nice chest, so i'm voting for him. # 17:14, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
  4. zell was cool but kind of annoying! snow was just badass!!! 04:24, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Woo Woo! Go Snow!!! who needs weapons when your fists'll do? 18:28, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
  6. -- 18:15, October 23, 2011 (UTC) "HEROES NEVER DIE!!!"
  7. Yes. 01:18, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
  8. As much as I disliked 13, Snow was a good character among few. 02:55, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
  9. 22:42, October 29, 2011 (UTC)Dude with dead Chocobo on head = AWESOME!!! (FFXIII-2)

Peanut Gallery

Thanks, Drake. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 00:58, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome TA. Also nice fight. Could I vote this one time, perhaps? :) Drake Clawfang (talk)
I think you have behaved yourself well enough that I would allow you to vote at this point. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 13:03, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
Yay! *claps*. Doreiku Kuroofangu 20:05, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... we could do with more "monk" characters in the main series. Gotta give props to characters who manage to fight barehanded no matter how many swords/spells/bullets/WHATEVER ELSE are being used. King of Noobs 03:48, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Both are some of my least favored chars, so I'll astain from voting The Rood Inverse 21:01, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

@Dodongray23: um, he's not from VII... Clarent Caliburn Dissicon ff13 Lig3 00:23, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

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