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• Place new suggestions at The bottom of page. If you place them at the top, they will be lost when we archive the page. You have been warned.
• TacticAngel has final say over all of the fights.
• Please do not use talk templates here, as it really slows down the loading times.
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• Only fights between Final Fantasy characters are allowed. Other mediums like Kingdom Hearts, Super Mario RPG, 8-Bit Theater and Chrono Trigger will not be allowed to compete.

Queued

The following were archived and will probably eventually be put up as actual fights some week. They appear in no particular order.

• Balthier v. Zack
• Aerith v. Rydia
• Terra v. Cloud
• Squall vs. Zidane
• Zidane v. Balthier
• Golbez v. Kuja
• Sephiroth v. Kuja
• Sabin v. Yang
• Griever v. Silver Dragon
• Darkness v. Silence
• Bahamut SIN v. SIN

Bahamut vs. Tiamat

I know I have suggest this last time but there is no result and also they didn't appear on the list so trying it again.GRIEVER POWER 04:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. -Alarielle- 11:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
2. queen of dragons vs king of dragons huh lets give this a try and see who wears the pants lost-myth
3. GRIEVER POWER 05:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC) everyone is voting for their own, so i might as well and this isnt just some random stuff anyway
4. Why not?
5. I'll go for this, as Tiamat SHOULD win. He has a more important referance on other cultures, and people will eventually get sick of voting for Bahamut. Gerdat14
6. why not Derum
7. User:MechaUltimaZero I have to agree with lost-myth on this--it's the royal family of Dragons!
8. How could you not support this!? Yzz 08:18, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
9. Its the original dragon royalty! How can you not use this one?TheBlueDragoon

Reject

1. ScatheMote 01:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
2. I don't think anyone would vote for Tiamat. Terra_Homing
3. I don't even know who Tiamat is...If i have seen/used it then it didn't make any impression on me.--BigCubby 17:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
4. This is too lopsided. -Visitor
5. This must be popular since it has happened 3 times with Bahamut as the winner!Werefang
6. Mr_Darkside This is too much of a one-sided battle.
7. Maybe if you had Yiazmat...Judge Balthier 17:28, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
8. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 05:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC) This would be a one way flood for Bahamut. Would have been better using something like Yiazmat as Judge Balthier said.
9. Sadly, this will be a evident brutal win for Bahamut. Tiamat (Final Fantasy VIII) is the female Bahamut. She appears in various games, usually as a multi-headed dragon boss. I like her "story" in FFVIII. She took the opposite path than Bahamut, voluntary G.F., but joined Ultimecia. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 00:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Excalibur vs. Excalipur

I know I have also suggest this last time but again, no result so putting it up again.GRIEVER POWER 04:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. GRIEVER POWER 05:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
2. Power isn't everything...look at Gilgamesh he's a joke and is very popular. He's not that weak actually but still. Anony
3. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 05:54, 14 March 2009 (UTC) I'll support it just cause I like Gil.

Reject

1. -Alarielle- 11:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
2. Excalibur is better in every way imagined. That is why the pur is so funny.--BigCubby 17:13, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
3. Terra_Homing
4. oh come on, this is ridiculous
5. STUPID!!! Cluna 06 02:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
6. "~pur" is a pun on poor meaning that the weapon is inherently useless. The sword deals 1 dmg. no contest
7. the "bur" is clearly better then the "pur" one.Kuzlalala
8. Template:BfDsig
9. Who in this universe would suggest a fight between 'excalibur' and 'excali(pur/poor) User:GabbianiSoul
10. Meta-ZWhile I have to admit that the concept is funny, I honestly don't see how Excalipur would win. It does exactly 1 damage, so I don't think Excalibur would lose unless Excalipur got a pre-emptive strike and Excalibur only had 1 HP.

Comment

The difference between Excalipur and Gilgamesh is that Gilgamesh is at least funny whereas Excalipur is simply a useless weapon.AJ Werefang 21:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Cyan vs Steiner

First of four fights that had reasonable support before the bottom of the list was prematurely archived. - DeadlySlashSword 07:49, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Here I am again. ScatheMote 16:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
2. It was my idea. Thanks for putting this up again. Terra_Homing
3. Of course! - DeadlySlashSword 01:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
4. I like getting Cyan in there because it will hack so many off RowdyCMoore
5. As much as I don't like the characters...it makes sense so I like it.--BigCubby 17:13, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
6. Stiner and Cyan=Best Knights around. Anony
7. I'm actually surprised that this hasn't been done yet. Rydiaofmist
8. Eh...Why not. Cluna 06 02:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
9. This is a must. --- User: Zak Undersn --- 13:52, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
10. if it means i can stomp on rusty's nuts, HELL YEAH! Derum
11. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 13:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. -Alarielle- 11:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
2. never like thos characters GRIEVER POWER 15:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Why doesn't any one erase this. It was just done AJ Werefang 15:45, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Because it isn't time to archive yet. There is a method to the madness, and all will be achieved in its time. //edit by masterConjurer at: 16:13, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Celes vs Ashe

Second of four fights that had reasonable support before the bottom of the list was prematurely archived. - DeadlySlashSword 07:49, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. -Alarielle- 11:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
2. As I said before: General Celes needs to get back in the DNC. RowdyCMoore
3. Terra_Homing
4. Wahey! - DeadlySlashSword 01:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
5. 8bit 01:48, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
6. I'm for it demagox
7. love em both --BigCubby 18:57, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
8. Excellent idea! Rydiaofmist
9. Cluna 06 02:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
10. Kuzlalala
11. I think this is a great idea, two royal women who can really dish out the damage!
12. Template:BfDsig
13. Nice!JudgeMasterKefka 21:06, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
14. sweet!!! Derum

Reject

1. Does this really need to be voted? I think Celes simply rocks. And I've only played about two hours with her. --- User: Zak Undersn --- 13:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Comments

I'll give Zak his due. Outside of Terra, Celes just can't find any decent competition. It's so lonely at the top. RowdyCMoore

Maria vs Rosa

Third of four fights that had reasonable support before the bottom of the list was prematurely archived. - DeadlySlashSword 07:49, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. -Alarielle- 11:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
2. The best part is that Rosa could win. RowdyCMoore
3. DeadlySlashSword 01:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
4. Who will prove to be the least underwhelming? They're not bad characters is the sad thing. Anony
5. I was the first to support this on the talk page. —MasterConjurer 21:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
6. I will Do it to vote for Maria User:Rocking Chair
7. Template:BfDsig
8. Cluna 06 02:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
9. They're classics alright!
10. Philip Mccann 18:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
11. TheBlueDragoon Its a good matchup. Rosa is one of my favorite characters in the series, and so is Maria.

Reject

1. Terra_Homing
2. PaladinCecil 07:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC) Same reason as always; Rosa very likely will not win. People simply do not like her. Plus like last time, I'm not eager to see people who hate her vote for Maria then throw the word "whore" around about Rosa despite how that's the exact opposite of everything the character is like or about.

Comments

PaladinCecil: Stop stirring the goddamn pot and support your favorite character already. This is how debacles like the last one get started. - DeadlySlashSword 17:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I support my favorite character in all things. I do not support situations that will undoubtedly lead to re-stating the obvious (that people don't like her) with some smearing of what she's like thrown in for flavor. PaladinCecil 23:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you seriously think that she'll lose against any character in the DNC? - DeadlySlashSword 23:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

She might have a chance against something people care about even less than her, though I can't think of anything where it wouldn't turn into a case of "LOL let's vote for the Elder Treant because it would be funny to see her lose to a random monster." PaladinCecil 00:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

You have to keep in mind that this is a wiki and not just another fansite. People here actually have common sense, and I highly doubt anything like that would happen. You have to learn to trust people more. No person who has actually contributed a fair amount to this wiki wouldn't stoop that low and actually mean it.- DeadlySlashSword 02:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Read what people said about Rosa in old DNC matches. These matches are biased. All about favoritism, which is governed by how much characters have been overhyped or slandered since they were created. Rosa will lose. It would be nice to be able to trust people. I've only been given reason not to. I'm tired of seeing how much people hate this character because she's "cliche," or "clingy," or "dresses like a super slut," or whatever else about her gets twisted into negatives. Tired of people acting like she doesn't matter and shouldn't have been created. I'm tired of seeing it, so I'm not supporting another chance for people to take potshots. Done. PaladinCecil 02:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Rosa didn't have a chance against Lulu. Against Maria, however, I truly believe that Rosa will win. If this fight makes it to the DNC, you will see for yourself that this is a fair fight. But I know how this will end. If Rosa does win, you'll complain that it was a meaningless victory over a character no one cares about. What you desire can never be obtained. That's why we all want this to be settled once and for all with this fight, and hope that you can be satisfied with that. But deep down, we know you never will, and the eternal struggle will continue. - DeadlySlashSword 03:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

What I desire is Rosa not being in the DNC again at all, and instead given a shot at being on the main page in some way that isn't going to be synonymous with "hey, come check out how we all think this other character's a million times better than Rosa." And you're right. The only section that could accomplish that is Featured Articles, and her article will never be one. What I desire can never be obtained. PaladinCecil 03:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I have tried FFIV lots of times and I only get up to the spoony bard each time and then give up because I don't like the game but from what I remember of Rosa in those 1 or two hours she seems really useless being in bed all the time. I don't like this game.--BigCubby 15:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Up to "spoony bard" isn't enough time to see all of what she's like, and it takes more than merely watching events unfold to see what Rosa offers to the game. Much of what makes her so special and meaningful is subtle and in the gaps of the game, as opposed to more popular characters where their influence is shoved front and center. PaladinCecil 16:35, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

ROSA WOULD BEAT MARIA DEPENDING ON WHAT SPELLS YOU GIVE MARIA ROSA USES SHELL PROTECT REFLECT WALL BLINK YOU NAME IT AND THEN MARIA CAN'T TOUCH HER WITH ANYTHING THEN ROSA JUST CASTS HOLY THE REST OF THE TIME.

TA, if you're reading this, don't let these comments influence your decision. We can be mature, you know. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 03:58, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Meta-Z: I would vote for Rosa. In fact, I'd vote for just about anybody. The only people I would never vote for are Sphiroth and Cloud, simply because I think those two are highly overrated.

Selphie vs Rikku

Fourth of four fights that had reasonable support before the bottom of the list was prematurely archived. - DeadlySlashSword 07:49, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Terra_Homing
2. This was originally my suggestion in the first place! - DeadlySlashSword 01:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
3. These two are disliked enough for it to work. But it should be held off for a few weeks because we need a break from VII and VIII characters. RowdyCMoore
4. Anony
5. Mr_Darkside I love these 2 character Im up for this fight.
6. User:Yojimbo and diagoro if its a naked mud fight itll be a hit with the men lol.
7. I know that a lot of people hate these characters (I only hate that yellow dress wearing idiot), so this fight could turn out interesting. Violetmage
8. Template:BfDsig
9. Munk451 this seems like a good idea, two of the most optimistic characters pitted against each other.
10. Ok! I HATE Selphie and i fatasize over Rikku! (not literally people), Rikku would win so lets battle it to proove it... btw, other then my sister, who does like Selphie? Leonhart178 03:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
11. I'm always up for a good catfight, especially between tweedle ditz and tweedle dumbass Derum
12. User:MechaUltimaZero Rikku's fun.
13. TheBlueDragoon Anyone who knows me will say this is a good fight. I have a thing for the spunky females, especially Rikku and Selphie. Its just a fight of who the people like more.TheBlueDragoon 04:11, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. -Alarielle- 11:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
2. ScatheMote 18:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments

What happened? Just like two weeks ago, this fight had seven support and two reject? - DeadlySlashSword 02:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

After so many VII/VIII fights, people are finally tired of both those games. See what's happening with SOLDIER/Seed below. RowdyCMoore

Kain highwind vs. Cid highwind

support

1. A battle between the best dragoons of the series 1stclasswarrior 11:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
2. A litte disappointed by the lack of Freya Crescent(the REAL best Dragoon) but I think this would be a good one. AnonyMan
3. Kain would win because all the VII haters around there, but they both are kickass enough. --- User: Zak Undersn --- 14:00, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
4. I love both, but Kain more. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 13:35, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

reject

1. GRIEVER POWER 15:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
2. Screw VII. Kuja Tribal
3. Landslide for Kain. Terra_Homing
4. I changed because I realised Kain was involved in it, meaning auto-win in 99% of the cases. -Alarielle- 22:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
5. Eh, I'd vote for Cid. - DeadlySlashSword 01:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
6. anyone who bears the Highwind name needs to go suck those giant penisesthey call weapons.

Derum is unpleased.

comments

About Freya. I am sorry I did not include the character, but I do not have that game and thus, didn't know Freya was a dragoon.

Don't sweat it, I'm just kidding. But if my comment is any indicator Freya's MY favortie dragoon from the series.Anony

SOLDIER vs. SeeD

two fighting organizations, on working for a company, another a mercenary group. (the group overall try not to think of the famous ppl plz)lost-myth

support

1. i want 2 see this fight and the last time this was up there were 8 supports and 0 rejects lost-myth
2. Hey! I wanna see this fight! Kabea
3. SeKaLoYa
4. Mr_Darkside I think this is an interesting battle and different.
5. This has been longcoming.....-Anonymous
6. this will turn into FF8 vs FF7, but then again, i think SeeD should win and would like to see the actual result in the pools.
7. A universe spanning battle against the two most favored military forces in the Final Fantasy (Series)Multiverse!!!!!!

Derum is most pleased! LET THE VIOLENCE AND CHAOS UNFOLD!!!!!!!

1. Hope this doesn't turn out as a Squall vs Cloud fight.JudgeMasterKefka

reject

1. too much ff7 vs ff8 sheesh. GRIEVER POWER 05:27, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
2. exactly. I supported it before and will support it again later. -Alarielle- 18:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
3. NO MORE VII vs VIII for a VERY LONG TIME RowdyCMoore
4. Meta-Z: See the above. 'Nuff said. RowdyCMoore and GRIEVER POWER have the right idea here.

comments

SOLDIER would win any day

Ragnarok vs Lunar Whale

the 2 airship that was able to go to space. which one would be a more ass-whooping space ship?

Support

1. GRIEVER POWER 05:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
2. I like both games and both airships. OK. -Alarielle- 18:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
3. Lunar whale all the way, Kain was on it! User:Last tsurugi 11:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
4. SeKaLoYa11:39, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
5. Yeah this sounds worthwhile. 1stclasswarrior 20:58, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
6. I agree. Kabea
7. Original battle. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 23:01, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Template:BfDsig

Comment

Lunar whale all day

Kimahri vs Umaro

Just to get Umaro in finally.

Support

1. Here's why. —MasterConjurer 21:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
2. Umaro isn't as bad as everyone thinks. RowdyCMoore
3. He sure isn't. Neither is ol' Kimahri. AnonyMan
4. Template:BfDsig

Reject

1. no.--BigCubby 17:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
2. There's a reason Umaro didn't come. Berserker SUCKS.-Alarielle- 18:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
3. Mr_Darkside These 2 characters dont have much in common expect they are both non-human and they come from the mountains.

Comment

Whose idea was it, and why aren't they supporting it? —Master Conjurer 04:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I mainly suggested this as a joke. I know it will never get approved. RowdyCMoore

FF IV Red Wings vs. FF IV Dragoons

just the troops, no cecil/ kain (this is because everyone would vote kain and there would be no competition. this is to see which ORGANIZATION is better) R. Wings get airships, but the slightly bad ones at the beginning of the game w/out guns.User:Last tsurugi

Support

1. Yeah! they didn't fight in the game (besides Cecil and Kain, who aren't in this) and they both rock! User:Last tsurugi
2. Sounds fine to me. -Alarielle- 17:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
3. A friend of mine and I really would like to see the result of this. (Too bad he isn't a Wikian.) —Master Conjurer 21:21, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. … ScatheMote 22:48, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
2. Template:BfDsig

Comments

I wonder if it's possible to temporarily make the words "Cecil" and "Kain" verboten on the DNC. —MasterConjurer 22:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

that and most things from VII/VIII User:Last tsurugi

I only meant those two for this fight's purpose, not because they got annoying or anything. —Master Conjurer 01:11, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

DRAGOONS ALL DAY THEY CAN JUMP HIGH WHAT DO THE RED WINGS HAVE AIRSHIPS DRAGOONS JUMP ON AIRSHIPS AND MURDER.

Freya Crescent versus Mog

A fight between the two animal Dragoons (even though Mog's class isn't specifically Dragoon, he can fight like one, since he wields spears)

Support

1. Two of my favorite characters from my two favorite games. Kuja Tribal 13:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
2. I dont kno why im voting it but oh well
3. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:43, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. -Alarielle- 17:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
2. Mr_Darkside There seems to be too many Dragoons fights - 10:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

"Wark" versus "Kweh"

just to see if there are that many supports, also to see how many people love a good laugh (not making fun of them, just... it seems funny)Last tsurugi 00:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. SeKaLoya
2. Great idea! --JohnnyC 17:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
3. There we go. - DeadlySlashSword 04:36, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
4. Close enough. —MasterConjurer 20:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
5. Kuzlalala
6. This is cute. Rydiaofmist
7. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 08:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC) KWEH!
8. Yes, yes, yes. SonOfAJenova 18:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
9. ArableLadle: Aww cute :3
10. I like it. SilverDragon28 16:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
11. Fun. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 23:02, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
12. This is the best request ever.JudgeMasterKefka
13. Please. Karu

Reject

1. Um...No. --ChiefKakashi 05:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Template:BfDsig
3. Lol? -Alarielle- 23:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
4. Really? this is the most stupidest fight I've seen on here...so far. Mr_Darkside
5. No way. Just a waste of time....-Anonymous

Comment

Make it Kweh vs. Wark and we have a deal. —MasterConjurer 01:12, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the above statement. - DeadlySlashSword 04:31, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Me too! Kuzlalala

Edea vs Adel vs Ultimecia

The three sorceresses that don't really get much attention. SeKaLoYa

Reject

1. JohnnyC 17:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
2. No one likes Adel or Ultimecia...but a character completely manipulated by the latter is "So F'ing endearing"? Anyway nah it won't really be interesting. Anony
3. No. Adel is not allowed to ever appear. ScatheMote 16:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
4. Adel is not important. That ultimate-motherf*****-badass Sorceress is defeated right after being freed. As for Edea and Ultimecia, well I'd like it, but I think VIII and VII are banished from the DNC for a while^^ -Alarielle- 23:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
5. All FFVIII? C'mon...
6. Template:BfDsig

Cecil vs. Celes

Both started out bad but came around in time to save the world.

Support

1. Totally bucks the trend of "Just to See If Anyone Cares About Him/Her/It." Plus good idea. -Visitor
2. Who stole my idea?! RowdyCMoore
3. Well, at least is a new idea...Shinryu
4. -Alarielle- 23:34, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
5. Template:BfDsig

Reject

How was Celes bad?--BigCubby 18:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Maybe change Cecil to Beatrix. SilverDragon28 20:36, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment

She was bad because she used to be a Gestahlian General - you even see her alongside Gestahl in Terra's memories early in the game. That's why Kefka suggests she was a double-agent in the Magitek factory and why he offers to take her back on the Floating Continent. RowdyCMoore

I wouldn't really consider that bad. Just a different side.--BigCubby 19:32, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough, but you can say the same about Cecil. Ultimately, they're both commanders with good hearts forced to do bad things by their rulers (Cecil invades Mysidia, Celes torches Maranda), and their guilt drives them to rebel against those rulers. That's probably a better way to describe these two. Rowdy

Are we talking Paladin Cecil? Or Dark Knight Cecil? User: Kuponutter

Terra vs. Jecht

Esper vs. Aeon They both humans able to transform in to a summon and they both in Dissidia.NeoBahamutZEROX 18:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Terra ftw Terra_Homing
2. Jecht ftw —Master Conjurer
3. NeoBahamutZEROX 22:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
4. I thought it was only for Dissidia and was ready to reject, but good explanation. Too bad you finally mentioned Dissidia. I HATE fighting both of them in Dissidia. Anyway. -Alarielle- 23:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
5. Fonzyboi 11:07, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
6. Mr_Darkside Interesting.

Reject

1. Uhhhhhhhhh.......no. - DeadlySlashSword 03:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Template:BfDsig

Jecht vs. Dr. Cid

Fathers of the main characters, both gone bad! Cluna 06 21:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Supporters

1. Decent idea. —Master Conjurer 23:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
2. It's my suggestion. Cluna 06 02:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Good. -Alarielle- 23:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
4. SeKaLoYa
5. I tried suggesting this fight before, but it somehow got deleted off the marque...oh well. I'm happy that people are supporting yours now. Cheers! Can't wait to see what arguments people will come up with! I'm pretty much undecided right now! Violetmage
6. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 05:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC) Me likey.
7. I like it. SilverDragon28 20:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Rejections

1. Template:BfDsig
2. DeadlySlashSword 19:21, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Mr_Darkside

Shadow vs Jecht

Two fathers who were never able to tell thier kids how they actually felt about them.

Support

1. I supported it once, I'm supporting it again. - DeadlySlashSword 02:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
2. -Alarielle- 23:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. I'm not just going to support everything with Jecht in it. —Master Conjurer 13:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Dude, I already rejected this fight awhile ago. Read the archives. ScatheMote 20:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Mr_Darkside

Faris versus Kuja

The ultimate FF crosdressing fight! On the left side, the lady who makes men question their sexuality, and on the right side, the only male villain to use a thong and a bra!!

Support

1. Gotta love those two. Kuja Tribal 13:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Template:BfDsig
3. Yeah. -Alarielle- 23:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
4. Interesting... Kuzlalala 08:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Even I don't think so. —MasterConjurer 15:40, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Uhhhhhhhhh no. - DeadlySlashSword 15:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Would love to get an FFV character in. But sorry - no more Kuja. RowdyCMoore
4. sorry dude no way user cloud 9000

Terra Branford vs Kuja

Terra had dealt with the Final Fantasy clown (literally). Now, can Terra face the Final Fantasy shakespearean poet/transvesite? Also, well Kuja "destroy" Terra....again (if you know what I mean)? Squallinoa 08 05:27, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Yeah, yeah and yeah. Alarielle
2. Brilliant idea! Terra_Homing
3. I'm only doing this for the pun. —MasterConjurer 06:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. ScatheMote
2. Bad puns = Reject. - DeadlySlashSword 02:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Mr_Darkside A bit random really
4. Devil Breaker 07:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC) Aarrgh I hate puns and also please aren't there many DNC fights with Kuja?
5. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 05:59, 14 March 2009 (UTC) Awful puns lose you my vote. That was just awful.
6. Uh... O_O Don't use puns for nominations. Kuzlalala 10:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Sabin Rene Figaro vs Zell Dincht

Both fight with their fists, two monks of the series.

Support

1. My idea. Terra_Homing
2. Yes...the two best Martial Artists in the series. Anony
3. ooh. these to are like the tank in the team. GRIEVER POWER 03:53, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
4. Tifa isnt in it for a change so Im up for it Mr_Darkside 10:11, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
5. Both are great (and fun) characters. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 00:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Both Sabin and Zell are already on the queue list, and there's also a monk battle queued, too. - DeadlySlashSword 02:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
2. I can't stand Zell. It's almost as deep as for Selphie. -Alarielle- 23:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Terra vs. Faris

These two actually have a lot in common there both contend to a summon (Terra Maduin & Faris Syldra) they have two different hair colors (both blond, Terra green and Faris purple) and Yoshitaka Amano's favorite design.NeoBahamutZEROX 01:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. NeoBahamutZEROX 01:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Template:BfDsig
3. As they are two wonderful female characters and, as mentioned, Yoshitaka Amano's favorites character designs for Final Fantasy, I have to support this.User:Terra_Branford 04:29, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Faris, well, can't win and I still don't see why they are so similar. ScatheMote 02:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
2. -Alarielle- 15:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Lenna vs. Garnet

They are both princesses whose fathers were killed. They're both underrated and Lenna hasn't been featured yet.

Support

1. Template:BfDsig
2. Big Cubby has already stated why this probably won't work out. Lenna is actually ok, too.Anony

Reject

1. Good suggestion! But idk, Lenna would probably lose. Squallinoa 08 02:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Lenna sux--BigCubby 15:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Lenna... Who's that^^ -Alarielle- 15:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Comment

FFV --BigCubby 12:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Archades vs. Lindblum

Hey, cities should get in! Why not a match between these two great cities?! Kabea

Support

1. I don't know either of these, but this is different enough to go for it. RowdyCMoore
2. Lindblum's one of the best cities around. And this is a cool idea.Anony
3. -Alarielle- 15:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
4. See previous edit Derum

Reject

1. I am only rejecting this because I can't find Archades so I am hatin' and Lindblum is too big.--BigCubby 15:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Template:BfDsig

Comment

How can you not find Archades ? You simply have to follow the path, if I remember well. Look for Sohen-something and a false hunt outside, it'll open you the way. -Alarielle- 15:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I can find it , I know the way I just took a wrong turn and haven't found the time to look for it.--BigCubby 18:33, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Auron Vs. Sephiroth

I Think everybody wants to see the match between 2 of the most powerful people in any series

Support

1. I would never be the one to suggest this, but I'm okay with people hating me for supporting it. —Master Conjurer 04:25, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Template:BfDsig
3. Haven't seen much Auron Lately
4. the ultimate Samurai battle. HAI!

Reject

1. NO MORE SEPHIROTH. RowdyCMoore
2. Now, Now...while I agree, let's not discriminate here. NO MORE AURON as well.Anony
3. Sephiroth isn't one of the most powerful.--BigCubby 12:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
4. Definitely. He never really did anything wonderful. Nor did Auron by the way. -Alarielle- 15:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
5. Auron would totally PWN Sephy, just because some users here are generally tired of Sephy. (No offense, Sephy fans.) Cluna 06 02:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
6. I'm rejecting this because a) Too much Sephiroth overflow. b) Too many Sephihaters that would make Auron win (get serious, we're talking about Auron here, that would be sad). c) It's Auron.
7. Has this battle been done before? AJ Werefang 16:46, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment

@Alarielle: Nah, he (spoilers ahead) is just a human experiment who went mad and burned a city down to ashes, killed a man who standed by there, and then almost killed his comrade. Later he just took control over the most destructive alien organism the multiverse had ever known, absorbed all its powers and used them to make it his puppet. With it he killed the president of the organisation that ruled the world. He impaled a giant serpent with this puppet and then he attracted all the alien cells that were scattered all around the world to the place where he was crystalized (that means he did this all without even moving), not to mention he killed a main protagonist. Later gained control over the protagonist's mind so he would give him an artifact to destroy the entire world. Inmediatly after he summoned a giant meteorite to gain even more power and be what normal people calls "god", thus awakening some organisms that could blow the planet away if they tried, and he didn't die even when the protagonist sliced him to death. You're right, that's nothing to be fond of. --- User: Zak Undersn --- 16:12, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

And yet Auron resisted both death and the fate of the undead in exactly the same manner as his game's greatest and second-greatest villains, while using the most destructive force in two or more universes as a mode of travel. And all of that was AFTER he crawled all the way up and all the way down a mountain with a fatal would and was still intelligible enough to convince a less-than-fluent-in-Spiran and extremely stubborn Ronso with childhood issues to change his entire life goal to protecting some toddler all the way across the world. Face it. This is a battle between the hero and villain versions of cool. —MasterConjurer 02:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, whatever, but he's from FFX. Even though Auron might be the character I consider less scum-y from FFX. In fact, when i said "c) It's Auron" I was thinking in "c) It's FFX" --- User: Zak Undersn --- 18:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Did you ever beat FFX? —MasterConjurer 22:51, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Should I? I mean, I watched the whole "final dungeon" (Sin), the lamest final battle ever, the ending and those things. If I stopped playing when Sin used Ultramegadupersupergravija and killed all my party because his e-penis was too big to fit into the game was because I already knew what was going to happen after that and I loved (and still love) too much my eyes and mind to destroy them like that by watching it happen again. Anyway, if I didn't, how would that help? --- User: Zak Undersn --- 22:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

So you didn't finish it because you hate it for beating you?! That is the lamest, saddest, most emo thing I have ever heard! You, sir (or madam), are quite literally (that is, by definition) a loser! Not to mention that I and many, many others won that battle on the first try.

First: sign your edits. Second: I like Sin, I don't want to kill it. He's maybe the most charismatic character on the game. Third: I don't care losing, but if I lose only because the enemy had the caprice of using an attack that would kill me even if I had max HP, I just think the game is even more poor than I thought. Fourth: FFX is lame in almost every way (exclude battle and Aeon systems and the rest is just... amazingly boring). Fifth: Can you read my last edit? I already knew what was going to happen, and I thought that my mind was having enough trouble just accepting Seymour as a character. FFX's ending is just a failure of epic proportions, why would someone want to watch it twice? Why would I bother trying to beat Sin if I just didn't wanted to see again what was going to happen? FFX just doesn't deserve it.

You are entitled to your own opinion. That just doesn't change the fact that Final Fantasy X is—and always will be—the greatest game conceived by a human being. —MasterConjurer 20:18, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

You liked FFX-2 (and what is worse: you enjoyed it), that means your criteria is pretty messed up. And, anyway, did you hear that? It was me loling.--- User: Zak Undersn --- 23:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I've had the rare treat of enjoying every one of the games. There are others here who have, as well. Here's a hint at how to do it: don't cheat by looking up the endings before you've proven yourself worthy. Also, stop jacking off to long haired men in leather. —MasterConjurer 23:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

What are you, some kind of awareness knight of ye olde times? I didn't watched it because I wanted to, you know. I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, two years after FFX was released, everyone knew the FFX ending, and a friend just beat the final dungeon to show me how lame Yu Yevon was. And, in fact, he is, like the entire game. --- User: Zak Undersn --- 00:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Yu Yevon was easy for a reason. It occurs right after a harder battle after which you can't save. I don't even consider it the practical end boss. Also, the ending story was awesome. When it was first reached in my neighborhood, weeping was involved. (There were many people in the room, and of both genders.) It is a more touching scene than any movie ever created could match, and Nobuo Uematsu's favorite ever (He said so). That's actually why people play X (and don't make fun of this reason). It's because it has the best story, supported by the best technology to bring out the story. —MasterConjurer 00:43, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't even know where should I start laughing. --- User: Zak Undersn --- 00:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I started laughing way up there. Were you taking this conversation seriously? I only wanted to humorously mirror your comment above, but you kept replying. To be perfectly honest, I don't really know you well enough to insult you, in my opionion. —MasterConjurer 00:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I never take anything seriously. And less on internet. But boy, if you really believe all those things you said you should look for professional help. And I say this seriously indeed. FFX's story is about a boy who's a dream and whose name isn't even mentioned during the game, a girly who summons things, Booby McBreasts the gothic guardian who gets married with a orange-haired freak, an animal thing without horn, a stupid girl who steals, a dead bodyguard and a gay enemy who looks like a collage of all other FF villains on an emo rage. How would that be good, and how can that be touching? You must be kidding, I refuse to believe someone could take that seriously. The game was entertaining thanks to the ability and battle systems, I dont hate it, it's just the story is awful. I left it unfinished because I didn't have any reason to beat it. And I've been laughing since the first post, why wouldn't I? --- User: Zak Undersn --- 01:08, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Although I was exaggerating some info about it, I did enjoy the game. Please don't let your disliking of it intrude too far upon my liking of it. —MasterConjurer 01:40, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Nah! Kefka RULES! Kabea

Jenova Vs. Sin

Both of these villains possess a mysterious, otherworldly quality and remain generally silent throughout the course of their respective games. Also, they both have a strong, powerful influence over the people in their worlds, and they both can look pretty grotesque (remember Jenova LIFE and Jenova Synthesis?). Rydiaofmist

Support

1. Uh.... I suggested this so... yeah. Rydiaofmist
2. Good one! Terra_Homing
3. Whoa! It would destroy a planet or a game! Kabea
4. SeKaLoYa
5. Template:BfDsig
6. Now, this is interesting.-Alarielle- 22:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
7. Mr_Darkside Kinda like this idea. Plus I cant see anyother fight that Sin would fit into nicely like this one.
8. Most interesting VII vs. X fight I've come across in a while! Violetmage
9. Could be interesting.. could be. SonOfAJenova 18:31, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Midgar vs Esthar

Two technologically advanced cities (let's not add Cocoon to the list cause XIII isn't out yet).

Reject

1. Template:BfDsig
2. Mr_Darkside Zanarkand would have been a better choice...b4 it was destroyed
3. You forgot the anti-VIIvsVIII policy. -Alarielle- 22:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
4. it wasn't my idea... Kabea

Four Fiends vs. Archfiends

Garland's Four Fiends (Lich, Marlith, Kraken, Tiamat) versus Golbez's Archfiends (Scarmiglione, Rubicante, Cagnazzo, Barbarriccia).

Support

1. Why not. Cluna 06 02:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
2. sorry, but i have to make a stupid 8-bit theater refernc. Rubicante vs. Muffin!The Last... sword!? 21:49, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
3. I KNOW I suggested this some time ago. RowdyCMoore
4. 4vs4, why not. -Alarielle- 22:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
5. I actually can't say who would win. ScatheMote 18:13, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
6. What an interesting concept. I'd like to see this fight unfold. -anonymous
7. Yes! Yes! YES! Kuzlalala 01:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
8. Nokareon: I have a feeling that the FFIV fiends would win since they actually have some personality to them, unless enough people have read 8-bit Theater to vote the FFI fiends through.
9. I like the idea. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 00:35, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Blowout. - DeadlySlashSword 02:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
2. nvr liked the fiends except for tiamat

Shadow vs. Laguna

Both father of a child but doesnt know of their kids existence. Now both fighting at this coliseum for the very fame. GRIEVER POWER 03:15, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. -Alarielle- 22:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Reminds me of a certain Shadow vs Jecht fight someone suggest above. Originality, dude. - DeadlySlashSword 04:33, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Mr_Darkside I dont like this fight one bit

Comment

I'm thinking of Supporting, but I forget Laguna is(for some odd reason) an extremely fickle character with fans. He's strictly a love him/hate him character. Anony

People say that about every character in Final Fantasy. Square kinda designs them that way. ~マシタ カンジュウラ 04:03, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Ramuh vs. Leviathan

I know I've done this one before but it kind of got lost back there. We have done fire vs ice(Ifrit vs Shiva) summons now what about lightning vs water summons?

Support

1. I support it. Mr_Darkside
2. I tend to enjoy summon fights. Rydiaofmist
3. Sure that'll be a great idea! Kuzlalala
4. Why not? This was done in FFX! Cluna 06 20:33, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
5. What do you mean by it was done in X? They don't appear in X ^^ Anyway, I'm behind it. -Alarielle- 22:11, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Comments

I believe what was meant was that in the magic system, Lighning and Water were opposed in a similar fashion to Fire and Ice.

Viera vs. Gria

Two pretty female tribes. But which race is better than the other?

Reject

1. Viera would win--BigCubby 15:46, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Agreed with above statement--GRIEVER POWER 09:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Agreed too. Who are the Grias ? I don't know. Anybody does ? -Alarielle- 22:11, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
4. I do, but they're pathetic when it comes to finding good jobs. That's why I let my brother have his little Gria Squad last time we went to Ivalice. ~P.M.
5. Template:BfDsig

Golbez vs ExDeath

Two armored villains. One who wants to destroy all existence, the other who is neither bad nor good. Who will win? Squallinoa 08 06:23, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Wow, a boss vs. boss fight that doesn't have Sephiroth or Kefka. About Time!Xepscern Highwind
2. Mr_Darkside
3. Cluna 06 20:33, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
4. -Alarielle- 22:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
5. 8bit 02:56, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
6. Rydiaofmist: Now this is old school. I like it!
7. Mr. Rojo: Sounds good. 22:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
8. Devil Breaker 01:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC) This is cool coz its the clash of the big armored ones (and hell yeah no faces can be seen.)
9. Decent villains. Some sort of theme for it. I dig it. Anony
10. Cool. Pikmin Master 22:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
11. Template:BfDsig
12. A fight of who looks more badass. I know who I'd vote for, but it would still turn out to be a good fight! -anonymous
13. Get's my approval. ~Anonymous
14. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:34, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
15. Great. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 01:03, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Alright, since no one wants to reject, I will. I really see no difference similarites between these two beside the fact that they both wear armor we can't see thier faces. And do you guys really think Exdeath stands a chance against Golbez? I don't. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 14:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Palom vs. Porom

I know I suggested this fight a while ago, but I want to see it that badly. I mean, a fight with the twins is brilliant, because mostly everyone considers them one character.Xepscern Highwind

Support

1. Since they actually have different personalities, it would be a good battle. --JohnnyC 04:15, 16 February 2009

C,MON Porom would win she can cast Reflect which would send those spell right back at Polom

Reject

1. That's exactly why I wouldn't see the fight each other. -Alarielle- 22:13, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Porom automaticly wins, because she grew sexier in The After. Template:BfDsig

Zorn Vs. Thorn

I'd be suprised this hadn't actually been suggested before, but here goes... SonOfAJenova 18:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Mr_Darkside They're mostly the same thing...there not even twins really...plus I dunno who is who lol
2. They... aren't... even... different... --- User: Zak Undersn --- 14:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
3. @Zak: Zorn is the regular-speaker in blue, and Thorn is the yoda-speaker in red. —Master Conjurer 14:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
4. Come on. ScatheMote 14:30, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
5. Same as Palom vs Porom. -Alarielle- 22:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
6. Not quite the same as Palom vs Parom, because those two at least have separate personalities. Zorn and Thorn have no differing traits save for speech patterns and colour. (And this fight WOULD just come down to colour.)--JohnnyC 04:13, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
7. Zorn and Thorn are the most annoying little shits ever ' i do not know ' 'know i do not' SHUT UP User:Yojimbo and diagoro
8. Template:BfDsig

Aerith Gainsborough vs Zack Fair

Both had emotional deaths in FFVII plus was Aerith and Zack ment to be together? well now they are in a way.

Support

1. Mr_Darkside I like this idea.
2. Yes. -Alarielle- 22:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Hell yes. - DeadlySlashSword 04:20, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
4. Cool, a dead couple's battle now that's interesting Devil Breaker 07:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
5. *nods* Kuzlalala 04:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. I could only see this possible in a mid-Lifestream couple's squabble. —MasterConjurer 21:28, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
2. I don't see much of a fight here. The dead girl who sold flowers vs her dead boyfriend? They are different in any way possible.
3. Template:BfDsig

Cosmos vs Jenova

Useless as they are, they need others to barely help themselves. Good Goddess for one, Bad Goddess for another. You choose. ~P.M.

Support

Cloud 9000 12:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)cloud9000 i guess ill vote yes

Reject

1. Jenova isn't a goddess, and I can't see any way that these two can relate. --JohnnyC 04:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
2. How are they related to each other ? Don't understand. Anyway, Cosmos rocks and is sexy. Jenova is a monstruous woman-like thing with tentacles. Too bad it has to be rejected as Dissidia isn't released outside Japan. -Alarielle- 17:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Setzer vs Shadow

Yea, well this idea sucks, but nowadays we have less ideas in the DNC than fossil fuel on earth. So, lets just settle this "Pirate vs Ninja" crap once and for all. And since the only pirates here are Balthier, Vaan, Bikke and Faris, Setzer is the only "piratety" character who is on the same class as Shadow

Support

1. Meh... Leon5550

Reject

1. Edge>Shadow. Anony
2. Agreed. -Alarielle- 20:52, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Template:BfDsig

Sin vs. The Undying

The two most powerful villains from the latest Final Fantasy game. I think this'll be a good fight. Sin's raw power against the more calculated destructive power of The Undying.

Support

1. I say why not. But they aren't the most powerful, trust me. Sin's last form usually survives for 1 turn. The second one, he dies. -Alarielle- 20:53, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Template:BfDsig
3. Sin93

Comments

By two most powerful i just meant that they were the final bosses/main villains. but thanks, do i put my bit in support too even though i suggested it?

Yes, you can support your own suggestions. By the way, Sin is neither the main villain (Seymour) nor the final boss (Yu Yevon) of its game. —MasterConjurer 20:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

i'd have said that seymour was [I]a[/I] main villain, but Sin was [I]the[/I] main villain. Sin is the thing that the entire world of spira and the plot revolves around. he's the cause of seymour's villainy etc... that to me makes him more of a villain. and he's done far more harm to the world than seymour did, even in the course of the game. more damage to the characters even. and yu yevon doesn't really count as a final boss to me either, even though he technically is, because it's impossible to lose, and BFA isn't as powerful as Sin. I'm actually not even talking about the boss fights, i dunno why i'm rambling on. I meant more like just the movies etc. Like at operation mi'hen for sin, when he beats all the machina and kills all the crusaders, or the bit when vayne becomes the undying, and he destroys an airship easily, but completely by accident. sorry... went on a bit there. lol.

Rydia vs. Terra Branford

Just let's see if Summoning master fights a Magic master? Actually it's about esper vs. esper. Rydia summons espers while Terra is a half esper. What will happen?Red-yellow-striped-apple 16:37, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. RowdyCMoore

Reject

1. Devil Breaker 17:28, 20 February 2009 (UTC) Uhhm I therfore think that this fight was already done if I presume
2. Yep. -Alarielle- 20:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Yuna VS Kaze

Hmm I don't know if this was already done but I think this will be fine. Yuna was a summoner turned gunner; Kaze is summoner who use guns. (Magun)(he uses the SCT to summon) see who will win.

• Ok just to make it clear Kaze was a character from FF-UNLIMITED anime
  • And just to get away from the headaches of VII VS VIII fights
    • SCT= Soil Charge Triad

Support

1. In addition, they are the only two summoners to have called Ixion so far. —MasterConjurer 01:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
2. As the one who suggest, I support this idea. O yeah forgot about Ixion. Also I know that both of them have bahamut as their strongest summon ( well, Kaze has a bahamut-like summon was called Gun Dragon in the series)
3. Yuna will win, but I still think it's an interesting idea. - DeadlySlashSword 20:02, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
4. Anything with Kaze in it is good for me. I've tried to make just about every sort of combination with Kaze in it, but failed each time. Hope this works. Pikmin Master 20:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
5. Yuna will win, but that's enough for me to vote. And voter #2 above, Yuna's most powerful summon is Anima. Because her Overdrives attacks many, many times instead of one. Magus Sisters are the only one who can challenge Anima.-Alarielle- 20:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
6. Template:BfDsig
7. Agree!!! Kuzlalala 13:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. I dunno about this. I found the tv show highly unmemorable. I couldn't even finish it, myself. (Plus, I found Ixion to be a very disappointing replacement for Ramuh.)--JohnnyC 07:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Personally, I'm not interested cuz I think Yuna is a way better summoner than Kaze, and I'm not a big fan of FF Unlimited. ~ Anonymous

Comments

Once again, the founder does not support his or her own idea. —MasterConjurer 01:50, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey its memorable, it's the first FF i saw (im only 14... and i saw the anime when i was in grade 3). but hey, i respect your thoughts. To Master Conjurer what do you mean about what you said? i just don't understand.Devil Breaker 10:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Whenever I support a fight, it seems the person who came up with it hasn't supported it yet. When that happens, I leave a reminder of sorts in the comments. —MasterConjurer 20:22, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Thx 4 reminding em Master Conjurer. to Alarielle sorry about that, i forgot about Anima but of course, they both got bahamut.(well Gun Dragon for Kaze) Devil Breaker 04:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I hope this fight will work coz my first idea but I never put in here was Celes vs Quistis vs Beatrix the three female wielders of Save the Queen (^^.)Devil Breaker 11:19, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Celes already whooped Beatrix, so that wouldn't have worked. Now, Celes-Quistis straight up...RowdyCMoore

Shantotto vs Prishe

Two major heroines from Final Fantasy XI. Black Mage vs White Mage/Monk. And come on, when have we ever had a character from XI in the DNC?

Support

1. Yes. - DeadlySlashSword 20:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
2. It's something different , we need to ease up on the standard fare for a while. These aren't horrible choices.Anony
3. FFXI rarely shows up on the main page. Give it a chance.--Red-yellow-striped-apple 09:18, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Mr_Darkside There is a reason why there are never any FFXI character on here.
2. Er… I don't know Prishe and only know Shatotto because of Dissidia. And she's annoying in it. Really, where did they find such a voice actor !-Alarielle- 20:57, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Template:BfDsig

Comments

It's a shame, not many people are into XI around here, yet it's the most story intensive game of the series. And there are some pretty cool character within it.Anony

It better be the most immense for 15 bux a month.--BigCubby 22:32, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm sick of people rejecting fights and not giving a reason why in general. Just because no one plays FFXI here besides TA doesn't mean you all should hate it. - DeadlySlashSword 19:34, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, people do that on the DNC proper, too. This is just kinda the preliminary popularity contest. Just like with the anons not signing their URLs, this is also a fact about it that isn't changing any time soon. Wenn ich die Chance hätte, würde es, aber ich habe sie nicht. —MasterConjurer 23:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

To think I agree with Deadlyslashsword, if you're voting on the Reject place because you don't know the character, just don't vote or put it on the comments place. I also don't know Prishe and know Shantotto from dissidia, but I would support for it if Anony deserves it.Maybe I'm such a big mouth, but this is the reality I've found before.--Red-yellow-striped-apple 09:16, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Ruby Weapon Vs. Emerald Weapon

Battle of the two hardest bosses in FFVII or maybe in the entire FF series?

Support

1. Mr_Darkside Hell Yes. 11:56, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Template:BfDsig
2. EMERALD's harder, and hardest boss? This guy can rape them all at once without blinking. 00:50, 26 February 2009 (UTC) Leon5550
3. Hahaha... it's what, 3rd or 4th times it pops out ? And hardest bosses in the series... Have you tried ... let's say Yiazmat in XII, Penance in X or things like them ? -Alarielle- 11:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
4. Gundam battle! Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 00:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Lolcakes gundam XD

Chocobo Vs. Airship

Which do people prefer as a mode of transport?

Support

1. Mr_Darkside I kinda like this idea
2. Me too.-Alarielle- 11:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Munk451 This could be quite interesting.
4. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 05:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC) Strange, but could wark. Geddit?
5. I kinda prefer Chocobo vs Moogle (maybe they've already done it) but sure! Kuzlalala 07:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Template:BfDsig

LeonHart(FFII) VS Squall LeonHart

both with the name of Leonhart. GRIEVER POWER 11:16, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. My idea. GRIEVER POWER 11:16, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
2. If Leon's last name is Hart, then yes. Cluna 06 03:46, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Not Leon's last name, Leon's original and Japanese name. -Alarielle- 11:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Template:BfDsig
2. Who's Leon? Just kidding, but you get my point. He's incredibly insignificant compared to Squall.--JohnnyC 06:01, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
3. As it turns out, I think Leon was much more developed than Squall. But whatever. —MasterConjurer 02:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Hey only Ricard Highwind had a last name in FFII... if Leon's last name was hart (And they're all brothers-- That includes Firion) Then their names would turnout Maria Hart Guy Hart and Firion Hart... (Firion and Guy were adopted to their family of course)Devil Breaker 09:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Leon's name in the NES version is called LeonHart, so Hart is not his last name but part of his first name. GRIEVER POWER 10:33, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Minerva vs Cosmos

Template:BfDsig

Support

1. Mah idear. Template:BfDsig
2. OK. -Alarielle- 11:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
3. Two goddess; one causes Dissidia to occur, the other saves Genesis. Might work. AJ Werefang 16:57, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. A minor character against an even more minor character? No thanks. --- User: Zak Undersn --- 15:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Cosmos is many thing, but certainly not minor. She's the reason why during all the story of Dissidia. You fight because she asked you to save the world, and then to avenge her for being killed by Chaos. Of course there are personal reasons, the sake of the world and blah blah blah. But still. -Alarielle- 11:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

You could blow Cosmos away of dissidia and dissidia would still exist without the need of any other character taking her role, that's what I call a minor character.--- User: Zak Undersn --- 16:38, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Black Materia VS White Materia

One calls the ultimate Destructive Magic, Meteor. The other removes all 'threats' to the Planet.

Reject

1. Black Mage VS. White mage...also White is clearly better because it beat meteor.--BigCubby 15:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
2. This fight is meaningless, it will draw anyway... Kabea
3. This match more or less occurred already in the game itself--JohnnyC 06:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC).
4. Mr_Darkside Kinda been done before with the battle Holy Vs. Meteor. 06:48, 26 February 2009 (UTC).
5. Had it been a ultimate spell battle, I'd perhaps have supported it. But always draw everything to VII... No. -Alarielle- 11:26, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
6. Template:BfDsig
7. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 05:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC) Fight is meaningless. Anyway, holy could summon up the weapons, which is insta-win. Anyway VII + VII = no.

Comments

1. Hey --BigCubby... Holy destroied Meteor with the help of the lifestream! Thus Holy its not better... Kabea

Yo (user:Aurongurdian97)... This is my first edit/post so ittl suck a little, they should make a Auron vs. Sin charector battle, that would rule.

1. Marche vs Luso would be a great fight.Kimahri Ronso

Then try suggesting that fight. There are two major reasons to click the link that takes you here. One of them is suggesting fights. The other one is to vote in favor of, or else against, such fights. Actually, Holy never came close to stopping meteor. It was released too late. Lifestream did all of the work.AJ Werefang 15:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Yuffie VS Shadow

The White Rose against the black... er... Shadow...?

Support

1. Will the person who came up with this idea please sign here? —MasterConjurer 02:42, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Whoever created this has more guts than brains. That's enough for me to support. RowdyCMoore
3. Template:BfDsig
4. First off, whoever claims that Yuffie is not a ninja just isn't paying attention. A ninja is in fact a Japanese theif, plain and simple. There is no spirit. Second, though Shadow would obviously win(why does everyone hate Yuffie,anyway?) this is a truly interesting idea.AJ Werefang
5. Okay, "here." (This was my idea, I'm voting for it.)
6. Yuffie is a ninja, how would someone not see that? She's from a Japan-like country off the edge of the world, she steals, she wields a giant shuriken and she hides wherever she can. What else do you need? --- User: Zak Undersn --- 13:27, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
7. Though battle, good idea. I love both. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 23:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Since when in Yuffie a ninja ? Throwing things doesn't make it all. There's a spirit, too. -Alarielle- 11:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Throwing things does make you a ninja. However, that's not why I'm rejecting this fight. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 14:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Yuffie might be a ninja (might) but she is still really anoying. Shadow would win hands down and this poll would not be needed. - Ninja of Wind - 21:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Once again, the person whose idea the fight was is not present under Support. —MasterConjurer 05:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Proof that Yuffie is a ninja can be found on page 10 of the players' manual that comes with Final Fantasy VII. "Yuffie Kisaragi, Job: Materia Hunter, Ninja" //masterConjurer (Talk) 20:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Ultima Weapon VS Lion Heart

Ok first this not VII vs VIII fight the Ultima Weapon has in more Final Fantasy games than jest VII and second both of these blades are powerful weapon that their from.NeoBahamutZEROX 22:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. NeoBahamutZEROX 22:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
2. GRIEVER POWER 23:57, 27 February 2009 (UTC). I'll prtend this is FF9 Ultima weopon vs Lionheart
3. And I'll pretend this is FF6 Ultima Weapon. RowdyCMoore
4. Multiple ways to interpret the Ultima Weapon, I'll pretend it's FFX's. AnonyMan

Reject

1. I like the idea, but find another explanation. I admit you don't mean VII's Ultima Weapon (anyway, for me Ultima Weapon is and always will be Tidus's one). But then, why Lion Heart ? Why not Cecil's Ragnarok for instance ? Lion Heart is still much derived from Ultima Weapon. Plus, I don't see how you can prefer a precise ultimate weapon. It'll go back to Gunblade vs "sword the Ultima weapon is in the game you want it to be". -Alarielle- 11:30, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Template:BfDsig

Comments

Becase the Lion Heart it blue glowing blade like Ultima Weapon in VI.NeoBahamutZEROX 21:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Yoshitaka Amano vs Tetsuya Nomura vs Akihiko Yoshida

This was archived a while ago with 9 to 1 support, but was not queued. Let's give Yoshida a turn on the DNC as well. — Yuan^Saluto!_Acta 23:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. If you could be drawn by one of them, who would you want? —MasterConjurer 02:44, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Haven't had an Artist match up for a while. Anony
3. This is a very interesting fight!--Red-yellow-striped-apple 10:09, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
4. I like how this looks. The 3 main artists of the series.--Otherarrow 23:25, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
5. Its a good idea(I think). GRIEVER POWER 23:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
6. Template:BfDsig
7. ChiefKakashi 05:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC) (._.)
8. Hurray! Kabea
9. I'd vote Yoshida. ScatheMote 21:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
10. I really am against this idea, but whatever. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 21:39, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
11. SeKaLoYa
12. ArableLadle: This is interesting
13. Thumbsup! But I'm not sure about three people competitions... Kuzlalala 02:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. This fight has kinda already happened with Amano vs Nomura Mr_Darkside
2. I agree with this. If you want to give Yoshida a chance, don't make him face those giants. Damn, I can't even say what FF games Yoshida did ! -Alarielle- 11:33, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Comments

This will turn into Nomura vs Yoshida because Amano sucks. RowdyCMoore

Amano is tied for my favorite of the three. —MasterConjurer 05:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Nomura's best was FFVIII, and he's pretty whack. Anony

I think Nomura's best is more Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts. But KH is not admitted here, and Dissidia not released outside Japan. Too bad. -Alarielle- 11:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

@Darkside: that's my point: Yoshida never got a go on the DNC, while the others did. And that fight happened 70 weeks ago, when a lot of the newer users weren't here. — 09:05, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Masamune Vs. Muramasa

the good vs bad sword. GRIEVER POWER 11:57, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. The Masamune is always more powerful than the Muramasa in Final Fantasy games. —MasterConjurer 20:39, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
2. This is just like the stupid fight Excalibur vs. Excalipur someone put on here Mr_Darkside 08:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
3. It is the same person that said the other suggestion. --BigCubby 22:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
4. HA. HA. HA. Enough of this. And give a REASON to your suggested fights. -Alarielle- 17:39, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
5. Template:BfDsig

Comment

Actually this combo is somewhat different than Excalibur and Excalipur. Excalipur very weak(worst weapon actually) while Maramasa is useful until you get a better sword. AJ Werefang 21:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Bolghen VS Gilgamesh

Both evil commanding officers that turned traitor to their superior. They added a bit of humor to their respective game and the series. Acid Snake

Support

1. AJ Werefang 20:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Cloud 9000 11:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)cloud 9000 this battle seems interesting

Comments

Why isn't the writer saying anything.AJ Werefang 20:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Neukhia vs. Jenova

two freakish final bosses (well, Jenova was part of Sephiroth)

Support

it's mineClever name from FF VII 21:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Neukhia would get owned.--JohnnyC 03:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Are they worth this ? -Alarielle- 17:38, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Template:BfDsig

Madeen vs Maduin

Probably been sudgested before, but I really want this fight to happen. Template:BfDsig

Support

1. Template:BfDsig
2. Dunno why, but I like this idea. -Alarielle- 20:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Neat idea! Rydiaofmist
4. Sure, why not...Armageddon11(DANIELSJ14) 00:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
5. Kuzlalala Squee! 09:39, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Selkie vs Zidane Tribal

Let's test two theives that haven't been seen togetherAJ Werfang

Support

1. I know zidane would win but I thought it could be interestingI wrote it

Reject

1. Selkie's blow...then again this is Zidane here. Every other Thief-Character(aside from Tantalus) don't even come close to being able to hang with him. Anony
2. Selkies are awesome, and I would love to see Crystal Chronicles in the DNC, but having Zidane against an entire race? No. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 22:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
3. You say that like it was not good for Zidane, but the real problem is that a race has no personnality. Zidane has, if you haven't noticed. -Alarielle- 20:51, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Does he perhaps mean the as-yet-unnamed character-to-be? —MasterConjurer 23:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I mean the Crystal Chronicals theif race.AJ Werefang 05:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I guess my idea was guided by bias. I liked CC and hated IX(Zidane was never serious until he was misserable). Pay no attention to this suggestion.AJ Werefang 05:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles vs. Chocobos Dungeon

Both are engine pioneers and are usually looked down upon as being bad games. Perhaps we can see what our users feel about these titles and build some support for the games that really shouldn't have been?

Support

1. Gerdat14 I have cast this fight so i pretty much have to support it. Plus, I need some help with the wikias on FFCC and this will draw some attention to the current state of each.

Reject

1. Crystal Chronicles was, from my point of view, a nice game. But it was not good enough for FF. And I won't talk about Ring of Fates. As for Chocobo's Dungeon... I haven't played, but from what I've seen, it looks like a big commercial thing supposed to bring money. -Alarielle- 20:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Game fights are banned. ScatheMote 21:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Template:BfDsig

Yevon vs. Shinra

Both are groups which control their entire worlds unchecked. Which one has more power? 98.206.185.23

Support

1. I was surprised to find that neither Yevon nor Shinra appears in the Yuanchosaan's list of past battles. //masterConjurer (Talk) 03:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Yay... What do you like better ? Al Gore's enemies or the Pope's followers (metaphorical and ironic). -Alarielle- 10:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 08:26, 9 March 2009 (UTC) Very inventive, like it.
4. Template:BfDsig
5. I'm supporting this one all the way, baby! Violetmage
6. sounds good! User:Sin93

Comment

I like to fix things, but please try to do this correctly in the future, 98.206.185.23. //masterConjurer (Talk) 03:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Zack Fair Vs. Vincent Valentine

Both have spin-off games which theY are the main character in, so who was the best character? Zack who we all knew was going to die or Vincent who was control differenly then other FF games.

Support

1. Mr_Darkside My idea. 15:51, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Acid Snake I love the idea!
3. Slightly interesting. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 14:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Template:BfDsig
5. I disapprove most of single-game fights, but why not. -Alarielle- 20:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
6. Both spin-off protaganists against each other? Not a bad idea! Cluna 06 06:01, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
7. What was that? Ninja of Wind is bringing up that stupid crap that we've heard fifty thousand times? What? He incorrectly thinks the game was made by a different part of the company? He doesn't even realize that the games introduced characters like Genesis and the Tsviets that almost everybody likes? What? //masterConjurer (Talk)_ 00:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
8. I must say I enjoyed both Crisis Core and Dirge Of Cerebus, not only that I think Vincent and Zack are probably my two favourite FFVII-related characters. SonOfAJenova 18:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
9. Ooooh... Kuzlalala 07:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
10. I like both characters, (not the sidegames) but Zack is the hero. Ah, if you want something in common, they both are ex-ShinRa members and both was used as experiments by Hojo. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 00:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 08:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Excuse me? What do they have in common again? What? Did I hear spin off games of FFVII? Inexplicably evil little things that are created by a completely separate area of the Final Fantasy company that are just there to make more money and squeeze so much out of the FFVII story that they ruin it at the same time? What? - Ninja of Wind - 23:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Hey you! Big bad Master Conjurer! If you've heard this crap fifty thousand times, then I guess that you've seen this page fifty thousand times when the smarter person proved that what I said was right. They are made from a separate part of the company and several good characters does not a good game make. Hell, they barely have one good character per spin off. - Ninja of Wind - 01:17, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Nemesis Vs. Omega Mk. XII

And ultimate showdown between WEAPON superbosses, who will come out victorious?

Support

1. Erm, my idea. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 06:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Better then rby and emerald--BigCubby 11:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Yes, better than ruby vs emerald. For a single reason. I don't like single-game match. -Alarielle- 20:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Bahamut Vs. Yiazmat

The God of Summons versus the Ruler of Wyrms...My God, what will the outcome be?

Support

1. My idea and this will be my first suggestion!Judge Balthier 17:57, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
2. I'll support this fight as I truly believe Bahamut NEEDS to lose eventually. Plus, Yiazmat probably hasn't beeen featured much. --Gerdat14 19:27, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Unfortunately, nothing will ever beat Bahamut. Maybe if you put Yiazmat against something else. //masterConjurer (Talk) 18:56, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
2. I've gotta agree with Conjurer here, no one has ever beaten Bahamut. Ever. I don't think his streak will get broken by some one I haven't even heard of. AJ Werefang 19:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Instead of Bahamut, choose another Superboss. (Other than Omega Weapon.)
4. No relation. ScatheMote 23:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
5. Template:BfDsig
6. Nothing to add to the votes above. -Alarielle- 20:30, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment

They don't have to be related. Yiazmat is THE superboss to own all other superbosses, IMHO. He is in FFXII I did this because they're both dragons and Bahamut needs a real challenge. Judge Balthier 19:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Bahamut will need a real challenge for a long time to come. That challenge is not coming from XII, and I doubt it's coming from XIII. //masterConjurer (Talk) 00:43, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually Yiazmat is a real challenge, Master Conjurer, and what do you mean it won't come from XII? I'm tired of arguing against your opinions so I think I'll stop now. Judge Balthier 17:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

To quote Bahamut himself in the Book of Brian, Chapter 571, Verse 2, "Though I am the great Dragon God King, I am versed in the manifold weaknesses of things such as yourselves." //masterConjurer (Talk) 22:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

You and your Book are Pure Blasphemy. Judge Balthier 17:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Mog vs Montblanc

I don't really care which Mog, but preferably the one from FFVI. Template:BfDsig

Support

1. Template:BfDsig
2. Even though you shot me in the heart, I will vote for this because I want to see some moogles duke it out.Judge Balthier 15:40, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
3. --JohnnyC 23:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 05:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC) Good, but Stiltzkin from IX > Mog
5. I'd bet that he could beat Mog! (probably not) Kuzlalala 00:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Mog from Final Fantasy IX was pretty awesome too. AnonyMan 18:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

We already had this, some time ago I believe. Drake Clawfang 22:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

We absolutely did. Week 45. //masterConjurer (Talk) 00:42, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Should this be scratched then?Judge Balthier 22:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Hasn't this been already done? Oh well, maybe a rematch would do. Kuzlalala 10:21, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Bahamut vs. Zodiark

Bahamut... must... have a challenge...Clever name from FF VII 00:34, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. I think the idea of "best" summon fight is not that bad (well, that supposes Bahamut is the King of summons and all that stuff). -Alarielle- 20:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Kuzlalala 10:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Schade //masterConjurer (Talk) 00:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Yiazmat is more of a challenge.Judge Balthier 17:30, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Garland vs Ultimecia

Both are villains that created time paradoxes. Imagine if the paradoxes never broke. It would be like the game never ends.

Support

1. Both are unpopular enough for this to work - +DeadlySlashSword+ 14:21, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
2. I have you know I actually like Ultimecia, so I vote for this. Judge Balthier 17:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
3. I also like Ultimecia so Im also gonna vote 4 this Mr_Darkside 18:24, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Yeah, Ulty FTW ! -Alarielle- 20:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Partly because it's a bad idea, partly because the same anon does the same thing wrong again and again. //masterConjurer (Talk) 14:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Vivi Orunitia vs. Auron

Now you might be thinking what do these two characters have in common well mostly nothing but there is one thing and that is that they both have the highest winning streak(4) and are still undefeated on DNC. So which one is more popular and will continue the winning streak, while the other is finally defeated?

Support

1. Mr_Darkside My idea again. 21:37, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. They don't have anything in common besides being popular. ScatheMote 22:13, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
2. The DNC is not a good reason for a DNC battle. //masterConjurer (Talk) 23:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Nope? -Alarielle- 20:12, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Rosa vs. Rydia

Since everyone seems to love using the DNC space to bash characters, let's stop playing around and do the match-up that will bring it out best. PaladinCecil 21:38, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Support

• Well, I like rosa, and her being in the DNC has made me want to vote again. Philip Mccann 21:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. For your sake and mine. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 22:11, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Und meins. //masterConjurer (Talk) 22:23, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Et le mien (couldn't resist). -Alarielle- 20:13, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Rosa vs. Rinoa

Two characters regularly loathed by fans of the series. Which one is hated more? PaladinCecil 21:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 22:12, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
2. I'd rather vote for the character I like more. If you want to go the hated route, you'd be better off putting up Tidus and Vaan. //masterConjurer (Talk) 22:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
3. My head would explode with confusion over who to vote for. :S Philip Mccann 22:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 05:11, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
5. Seeing the comments, I'm afraid I can't be behind this. -Alarielle- 20:15, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
6. Read Master Conjurer's vote. I like Rosa. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 00:57, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Rinoa fans tend to claim Rinoa is the least appreciated character in the entire series. This will reveal the situation for what it really is. Plus it's more opportunity for the DNC to be used for what it does best. PaladinCecil 21:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

You can vote for the one you like more, the point is that Rinoa fans claim Rinoa has it the worst. Once she wins against Rosa, they'll see just how much better she really has it, especially when comparing the hatred that will be leveled at Rosa compared to the praise Rinoa will get. PaladinCecil 22:31, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Dude, STFU!!! Forealz!!!! I'm sick and tired of you comparing Rosa's fanbase and Rinoa's. WHO GIVES A F***!!! Dude, you're just jealous that your favorite character doesn't have much fans and fame than other female characters like Tifa, Aerith, Terra, Rydia, and Yuna. I love Rinoa so much, but you don't see me going to other users pages and beating da s*** outta them saying she's the GREATEST character of all time! I'm not THAT much of a fanboy. You're saying that Rinoa isn't the most unappreciated/underrated character and has a big fanbase. When let you tell you something, how many people in this site loves Rinoa? NOT THAT MANY!!! Look, I'm saying that both Rosa and Rinoa have something in common, they are BOTH unappreciative! No ALL FF females are that popular in today's society, so why don't you just LIVE WITH IT!!!! If you ever talk about Rosa ever again, IMMA BAN YOU FROM THIS SITE FOREVER!!! So why don't you shut up, and enjoy your stay in FF wiki! It isn't just a place for fans, it's also an encyclopedia. Squallinoa 08 06:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Lolz, and by the way, i like Rinoa. Philip Mccann 07:54, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I have responded to this message on my user talkpage. PaladinCecil 10:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Flare VS Shadow Flare

Both are Flare spells, which means that in ANY game they're in, they tend to do a lot of damage and have a cool animation. Which one is better?

Reject

1. Honestly, boring. ScatheMote 20:35, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Before playing as Sephy in Dissidia, I didn't even know there was a Shadow Flare - didn't notice it. Blame me (or the French translator) if you want, but... -Alarielle- 20:18, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Shadow flare can't win because it's just an E.Skill in VII. Flare is in all of the games.AJ Werefang 16:35, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Shadow flare is also a geomancy ability in FF3(DS at least, I'm not sure about the original) and it was almost garenteed 9999 damage at whatever level, but like all geomancy skills, it was completely random. It still beat flare by a long shot. - Ninja of Wind - 22:13, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Flare Star ftw. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 00:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Behemoth Vs. Sephiroth

METEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!

Support

1. Ayakil - Came, saw, didn't quite conquer. 05:46, 14 March 2009 (UTC) Mine.

Reject

1. Good idea but Sephiroth would win no doubt Mr_Darkside
2. Ha, ha, ha... Oh, wait, you weren't joking ? -Alarielle- 20:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Sephiroth would make him rot to death. Bahamut is nothing compared to an epifany like Sephiroth. Acid Snake
4. Behemoth has appeared in most final fantasy games, and in most of the games he appears in, your party can defeat him at a level so low that Sephiroth would chew you up, spit you out, and still have room for desert if you fought him at that point. - Ninja of Wind - 23:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
5. Too many Sephiroth fanboy and a 7 ban. I'd vote for Behemoth (stongest random monster in most cases) but I know he'd never win. AJ Werefang 21:31, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment

@Acid Snake: First off, it's Behemoth, not Bahamut. Second off, that is neither the correct spelling nor the correct use of the word, "epiphany." Third off, if it was Bahamut, Sephiroth wouldn't stand an ice cube's chance in hell. //masterConjurer (Talk)_ 16:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Shadow vs. Amarant

Two ninja mercinaries that permenantly joined our party only after being hired to fight against our party for a time. - Ninja of Wind - 23:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Weird how I would suggest two ninjas to battle it out. - Ninja of Wind - 23:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Amarant is not a ninja, but this sounds really interesting. I wasn't logged in before. --- User: Zak Undersn --- 14:52, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Amarant is part ninja, so this is a good match up (also, because I can)__Armageddon11(DANIELSJ14) 00:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Simply put... Yes.--Gerdat14 18:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
5. I just want Amarant to be in the DNC finally Mr_Darkside 12:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
6. This is the closest the DNC rules allow to Shadow (or any other FF ninja) vs. Snake, so I'm all for it.The.Dreadnought 02:27, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Amarant is weird. He like a Cup of Parts Monk, and a pinch of Ninja AND Samurai. Of course this isn't a bad thing he makes all threw jobs look awesome at the same time. AnonyMan

Warrior of Light vs Onion Knight

Ah, been so long since I suggested a fight. A clash between Dissidia's nameless heroes. Who needs a real name when you have a title?

Support

1. I like the idea. Two knights clashing to see who has the shiniest armor. Acid Likes! Acid Snake
2. Conjurer also likes. //masterConjurer (Talk) 13:49, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Screw Dissidia, it doesn't give us any straight answers. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 01:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Not because of Dissidia, but because I like OK. I mean, the concept of mage-knight powerful only at high levels. -Alarielle- 20:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
5. Yeah pretty cool idea AtmaCrisis 08:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
6. Doubt not the might of the Nameless!!! (Mainly voting for the Hero Referance, but oh well)--Gerdat14 18:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
7. Kuzlalala 11:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
8. Template:BfDsig

Reject

1. Save it for Dissidia to decide.--JohnnyC 04:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Not really interesting. Onion knights are warriors of light as well, just from different games. This is just FFI v.s. FFIII. - Ninja of Wind - 23:47, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments

So any fight between any characters in Dissidia is banned on account you can have that fight in the game? Drake Clawfang 04:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

We did have a Squall vs Sephiroth fight that came out of one of the Dissidia trailers, remember? Short answer, no. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 05:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Cid vs Biggs and Wedge

The clash of recurring character names.

Support

1. Drake Clawfang
2. I just want to see which images get used for this. //masterConjurer (Talk) 00:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
3. I agree! Kuzlalala 06:33, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Because I can__Armageddon11(DANIELSJ14) 00:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
5. Can't be worse than Jenova vs Sin, I guess^^ -Alarielle- 20:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
6. Let the battle of repeats begin!!!--Gerdat14 13:04, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. What chance to Biggs and Wedge have?--JohnnyC 22:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
2. There are too many of the repeating characters. People will get confused about the idea of voting for the generic idea of the characters because there is no standard. They will most likely just vote for the character in the picture. If they pick the FFIV Cid, Biggs and Wedge will have more than enough of a chance to win. - Ninja of Wind - 23:58, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Hang on which cid r we talking about?

Marche vs. Luso

They're both protagonist of final fantasy tactics advance,who do you like more?

Support

1. Time for the over nice guy to step in!!! But really, as i have just been introduced to the FFT style of play, I'm gonna go with Luso because he wants to go home and be the stereotypical vegetable. What's wrong with that?--Gerdat14 18:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Yay! Hero contest! Kuzlalala 08:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. I've rejected this so many times, and still no one checks the archives. ScatheMote 19:14, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Who do I like more ? I can't like people who want to leave a FF universe. Would you do that ? Crazy boys... -Alarielle- 20:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Its kind of hard to get any personal details of a character when the plot of the game is based off of a small list of necessary missions with short cutscenes and a large amount of side missions that have no timeline to them at all.- Ninja of Wind - 22:57, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment

1. I guess Alarielle's right..but when I said who you like more,I meant the personality,and the story of the character.Wich is the better one.
2. Shouldn't there be a Marche vs Ramza one instead?

Excalibur v.s. Ultima Weapon

Sword of fantasy first weilded by King Aurther himself, or the sword of legend gifting power greater than any others. The choice is yours. - Ninja of Wind - 23:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. I don't know if this has already been suggested or used in the DNC, but it was original to me, so I might as well put it down. - Ninja of Wind - 23:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Battle of the Legend Blades, Eh? ...Heck, I'm In! --Gerdat14 00:57, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
3. I've wanted a weapon battle for a while now.
4. OK. -Alarielle- 16:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
5. Kuzlalala 11:56, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

The Judges vs the Turks

Too lazy to describe why, you figure it out.

Support

1. Drake Clawfang
2. I like this proposal. The Elite guards of the Empire should beat the Turks, soldier on the other hand... Not ever!!!
3. This feels suspiciously like the SOLDIERS v.s. SeeDs sugestion above, but I like it anyway. Nice one. - Ninja of Wind - 00:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Yes! The Judge Magistracy against the Turks! Judges FTW! Judge Balthier 15:32, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
5. This idea gets my vote.
6. 8bit 02:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
7. Kuzlalala 00:43, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
8. TURKS. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 00:38, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
9. Template:BfDsig

Reject

I like the idea, but can't help getting the feeling that the Turks would dominate. C'mon, they're the Turks. Anony

Comments

Cloud's Hair vs Seymour's Hair

Not the characters, just their hair. SilverDragon28 19:51, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Blue ftw! //masterConjurer (Talk)_ 22:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Face it: Cloud has already won and this fight would not focus on the characters hair styles...(sigh)--Gerdat14 11:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Being the first main character in a 3-D FF, Cloud has become very well known among fans, while Seymore is only known to the people who have played FFX and have seen him. I agree with Gerdat14 in that this will only turn into everyone voting for the Cloud hair because they can recognise it as his. If it is changed to someone less well known, than the amount of people voting for it just because they recognised it would decrease and you would have a fair fight. - Ninja of Wind - 23:34, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
3. This suggestion is so moronic that I simply cannot let it slide by. ScatheMote 01:28, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Maybe if we photoshopped the characters' faces out and showed only the hair, with a title saying "This Hair vs. That Hair." We'd still know where they're from, but it would get the point across. //masterConjurer (Talk)_ 21:03, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking of weird DNC fights to propose and these were the craziest hair styles that I knew of. I see your point though, let me know if you have a replacement for Cloud's hair. SilverDragon28 21:48, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

All I did to get this list was go through the 3-D games' lists of characters and I think that these might work. You can chose:

• Reno might be recognised, but the chances of people voting for him just for his character are very slim.
• Zack Fair has a very good chance of being recognised and might have the same problem as Cloud, but not as bad.
• Zidane Tribal also might be recognised, but his hair is too crazy to pass up.
• Kuja is a definite option, especially in his tranced form.
• Amarant Coral also has crazy hair.

I hope you can choose from those. - Ninja of Wind - 00:35, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I choose Amarant, am I allowed to just change this fight, or do I have to make a new one? SilverDragon28 20:54, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be best to make a new one and attach a "see below" thing onto this one. I guess you could change this one, but that would mean errassing what people have already wrote. That's either against the rules, or just annoying having to vote a second time. - Ninja of Wind - 23:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Penance Vs Yiazmat

Penance From Final Fantasy X Vs Yiazmat From Final Fantasy XII.? that would be a good battle I think

Support

1. In my opinion this is a wonderful idea! The two most deadly superbosses of the series... and for those of you that don't have any ideas about them, either wiki them, google them, or youtube them.

Reject

1. I haven't seen either of these two in action, so I don't know what to say except that I'll pass. It might be a good idea, but I just want to play it safe.- Ninja of Wind - 23:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments

BTW, It is kind of important to add the "Support; Reject; Comments" sections or people will skip over this suggestion. I almost did, so I added them for you. - Ninja of Wind - 23:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Fencer vs Paladin

Fast and evasive against slow and powerful. (Too bad FF doesn't have Mammoth Tanks.)

Reject

1. I see where your comming from with this, but there isn't much of a gap between characters' evasion in FF gameplay, so in that respect this battle would be based on brute strength only and Paladin would win before the fight started. In a popularity contest, you have another problem. There arn't many fencers out there. Just the ones from FFT and FFTA where the characters literally have no personality, so paladin would win again just based on that some have some depth as characters. - Ninja of Wind - 23:26, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
2. People are gonna see this as Fencer vs Cecil. It's a good idea in the head, but the DNC would make it stupid quick. //masterConjurer (Talk)_ 04:45, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Point taken on lack of Fencer characters. I suggested this fight and can only think of one actual character whose native job is a Fencer. But "Ninja" just wouldn't work. That's not evasiveness, its stealth. (If you aim your attack at the wrong spot, that doesn't make the intended target evasive, it makes you incompetent.) And although this part is totally pointless, because people would go for the characters anyway, the idea was a random-unit Paladin fighting a random-unit Fencer.

I wasn't suggesting "ninja", its just part of my user name. See? - Ninja of Wind - 00:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Isn't it nice to have everyone know your favorite job? (Check my name out →) //masterConjurer (Talk)_ 04:45, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I didn't mean to imply that you were suggesting "ninja." There are just only two real jobs that have high Evasion. (Assassin is really just a copy of being a Ninja that can't get Doublesword in Tactics Advance and is therefore useless.) And this was supposed to be an "evasion vs power" type fight. Also, maybe I should have come up with a different way of saying that, possibly "Skill vs brute force" or something.

Assassin is not the same as ninja. Ninja just gets to throw(and a few elemental magic; that's useless). Assassin can instant KO. Also fencer never seemed that fast to me. AJ Werefang 18:03, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Really? Maybe the units I was using as Fencers just happened to have a really high innate Speed stat, or had Big Boss's genes, or something. (And to those who didn't get the Metal Gear reference, sorry. But I won't explain because it will take too long.) Also, Instant KO in FFTA takes 3 turns, which makes it as annoyingly stupid as "Jump" in some of the numbered games, because by the time it kicks in, the target's already gone down.

I disagree with much of that. 1.Since this is basically FFTA we are talking about here, the ninja's elemental attacks are a lot more useful than the other games they appeared in because of the status effect bonus. Status effects can save your life in that game because of their unusually high hit rate. 2.Speed isn't what we should be talking about here. Speed only defines when each character will attack and that's it. Evasiveness is the real issue, where the fencer can learn the reaction ability Reflex to block all standard "fight" moves. Unfortunately for this conversation, paladins can learn Reflex as well. 3.The thing about the time it takes to instant KO, well that doesn't matter. The assassin is one of the best status effect users in the game, so weakening the opponents is the main goal. There are several moves that will cause an instant KO. You were talking about the effect called Doom when you said 3 turns, but that ability also inflicts sleep which will basically kill them before they can move again. You have to use the status effects in combos to get the full effect of the assassin. - Ninja of Wind - 00:06, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Am I the only one here who remembers Last Breath(at least I think that's the name). I wasn't refering to Doom; I actually meant KO. Werefang 04:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Lightning VS Noctis

The new hot enigmatic girl or the new hot enigmatic guy? -wtdrmfrthwbzn 11:57pm 26 March, 2009

Support

1. Cloud 9000 21:30, 28 March 2009 (UTC)cloud9000 eh ok? a little early
2. ... Template:BfDsig

Reject

1. Please wait until the game is released. ScatheMote 21:32, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
2. I share an opinion with Scathe here. //masterConjurer (Talk)_ 22:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
3. So do I -Alarielle- 16:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
4. "Enigmatic" isn't the right word. How 'bout "no one knows who they are yet." Besides, based on fighting style(which is all we can go by), Noctus would win.

Comments

^^ -wtdrmfrthwbzn
No comment...Cluna 06 01:39, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Aki Ross vs. Lisa Pacifist

The fact that NO ONE has suggested any characters from lower FFs is kinda disappointing, but I am also getting sick of seeing VI thru X characters. The end. Also, an abnormal chick fight with rare characters would probably appeal to a good few.*Cloud Strife 14:04, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. I'll support this, even though everyone knows Chobi is the main character of Final Fantasy: Unlimited. //masterConjurer (Talk)_ 22:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
2. OK, I'll support it too now that I know who everybody is. - Ninja of Wind - 00:12, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
3. I liked TSW. Really. I don't know the other one, but I think both TSW and Unlimited may have their chance in the DNC. -Alarielle- 16:45, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
4. I'll go for this one Mr_Darkside 12:09, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
5. This battle sounds pretty awesome, so I'll support it, but I have a feeling that Aki would beat Lisa any day. ~ Anonymous
6. Pretty much fits well. Kuzlalala 02:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
7. Template:BfDsig

Comments

Can you put the links to your characters here? I have no idea who we are talking about in this fight and I really want to add some comment or something. - Ninja of Wind - 23:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. - Ninja of Wind - 23:59, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Amarant Coral's Hair vs Seymour Guado's Hair

Not the characters, just their hair. SilverDragon28 19:32, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Much better. - Ninja of Wind - 00:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Just because I lol'd when I read this.--BigCubby 14:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
3. I like what they said below! Tifa's boobs vs Aerith's Ass! but this is funny too and i think it should be done, at least for a nice bit of humor Leonhart178 03:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Meh. That "hair" wave of suggestion remembers me a little of Blue's "Tifa's Boobs VS Aeris' Ass". Sorry. -Alarielle- 12:24, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
2. You call that piece of crap Seymour wears hair? It's like a really lame hat. Now Amarant's 'do is badass, he rocks the dread well. AnonyMan

Comments

I just want to see how many votes this actually gets. SilverDragon28 19:32, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe it was Ashes ass =)--BigCubby 11:33, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Vaan vs. Tidus

Two missunderstood heroes. When you vote, say reasons that a particular hero is good, not why the other "sux more" AJ Werefang 17:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. You already know. I guess not. AJ Werefang 17:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Originality aside, this is a good idea. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 23:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Come on, originality please. This fight was just mentioned up with the Rosa v.s. Rinoa suggestion. It was just supposed to be a better way to do a least favorite character's fight. These fights aren't very good to begin with because it's hard to pick someone who you really hate even if you hate the other person too. - Ninja of Wind - 00:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
2. No, I don't know. Judge Balthier 17:22, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Least fav is not really a good plan. -Alarielle- 18:51, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment

If you don't like this idea, don't package opinion as fact AJ Werefang 17:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

This already happened(Week 50 for reference). Also, there's nothing wrong with Vaan, stupid people just hate him because he's not the main focus(Yes, plot relevance always determines how good a character is). Now Tidus, is a different case, though he's not as bad as I remember either. AnonyMan

Sorry, I didn't know it was done.
Just so everyone knows, Balthier is useless too because he is just around as a mercenary. I'm not doing this because they are bad; I suggested it because they are both observers of the plot and unlike previous heroes, the succeed in not overshadowing the story. AJ Werefang 21:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I get ya'. I think we can all agree that XII's whole Main cast was pretty underwhelming, even the more important ones. They're as memorable as FFV's cast, but at least they did stuff. Anony

Actually, Balthier, Ashe and Basch are pretty important to the story. Ashe is one of the main reasons Dalmasca was won back. Basch protects Ashe. Balthier's there because he knows Ashe is a princess, who has money. That's good enough reason for me why this party exists the way it does and I'm sure somebody else would agree with me. Judge Balthier 13:56, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Vaan is in FFXII for the same reason that John McClane is in Die Hard. There, I said it. AJ Werefang 00:03, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Please tell me you did not just insult McClane! lol! BTW "Just so everbody knows Balthiers' useless too." It felt like you were targeting a certain someone

No I was not insulting McClane; I'm simply stating that Vaan (and Tidus if you think about it) is "in the wrong place at the wrong time." As for Balthier, I was simply pointing out that he functions as a mercenary and is not the "leading man" everyone says he is. Werefang 18:32, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Shinryu vs. Yiazmat

Two powerful dragon superbosses but which one is more powerful?  NeoZEROX  17:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. I don't know is this fight be done yet, but I think its good idea.  NeoZEROX  17:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Yiazmat needs to be in a match so I support this. Judge Balthier 15:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Ok for me... -Alarielle- 18:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
4. A lot better than the one below. - Ninja of Wind - 21:29, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Ouch!!! Judge Balthier 14:00, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Emerald, Ruby, Omega Weapon vs. Yiazmat

This is the match that you have been waithing for! Superbosses vs. The Superboss to rule them all.

Support

1. This is it! Judge Balthier 15:41, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. ...I don't think so. Mr_Darkside 18:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
2. No ! -Alarielle- 18:45, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
3. I don't think 3 on 1 fights are allowed. - Ninja of Wind - 21:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment

WHY!!!....Ok, Couldn't the weapons be represented as Ultima? IMO, this is very fair!

Excalibur vs. Masamune

A fight between the two swords-of-awesome.

Support

1. I suggested this, so I might as well vote for it. The.Dreadnought 22:14, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. What the HELL!! That is ripped off from my Excalibur v.s. Ultima Weapon suggestion above. Find something original to ask about. - Ninja of Wind - 22:19, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Just want to say that, for all I care, you can consider the Masamune to be Sephiroth's (if you like,) one that you can get normally, one from a non-numbered game, or even Frog's Masamune from Chrono Trigger.

Ripped off? Damn! I thought this was original. I must have missed the "Excalibur vs Ultima Weapon" suggestion somehow. Sorry about that. (Seriously, I did not mean to rip off that fight.)

That's OK. Actually, I'm not sure if I'm the first one to suggest that either. There are several other weapon battles involving Excalibur or Masamune on this page, but I descided to make one for the two best swords in the series without including the best katana(Masamune). - Ninja of Wind - 02:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Sin vs. Vegnagun

Bevelle's secret weapon dueling the secret weapon of Zanarkand (so to speak).

Support

1. It would be epic... User:Sibyrihl 18:12, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
2. This would be epic! I like the concept of it. Judge Balthier 14:07, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
3. This seems like a good matchup.  Armageddon11!  01:25, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Sin just fought, and I've rejected this already. ScatheMote 23:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Theme of Love vs Eyes on Me

A battle between two songs that symbolize the love between two main protaganists. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 23:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. - +DeadlySlashSword+
2. -Alarielle- 19:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
3. Eyes on me. Love it. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 01:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:09, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Template:BfDsig

Comments

1. What about "Suteki da ne?". I know that a lot of people hate the song (I hate it and love it at the same time), but wouldn't it make more sense to compare the two J-Pop love ballads (Suteki da ne? and Eyes on Me)? Violetmage 22:15, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Mako Technology vs MagiTek

TECH FIGHT!

Support

1. Again, this is my suggestion, so I should probably support it. The.Dreadnought 01:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
2. Two processes of making super-soldiers. Might be interesting. It'll probably turn into SOLDIER vs Magitek Knights but I don't think they've been paired. AJ Werefang 04:15, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Go magitek! Judge Balthier 14:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Fine, fine, I get it. - Ninja of Wind - 21:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
5. Good one but I wished it was a SOLDIER vs Magitek knights like said by Werefang and also not be a Kefka vs Sephiroth fight.JudgeMasterKefk 21:15, 14 April 2009

Reject

1. Very good idea, but sorry, this is gonna be VII vs VI. -Alarielle- 19:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

I will support it only if you can prove to me how these two can acctually fight. - Ninja of Wind - 02:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Umm...They can be used on the soldiers? There. Judge Balthier 14:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

1) You could use the Mako Cannon/Sister Ray to blow a bunch of MagiTek armor or MagiTek knights to bits. 2) You could use MagiTek armor, or MT Knights, to go kill all the Shinra security around a Mako Reactor and blow it up. 3) Mako energy can be used to power things like factories, producing weapons and stuff, while MagiTek can be used to make weapons and stuff (like MagiTek Armor suits) work. You get the idea yet? In case not, 4) Early experiments with the use of both Mako and Jenova cells resulted in a certain Masamune-wielding, Nibelhiem-burning villain, while early experiments in the use of MagiTek on humans resulted in an insane, laughing villain named Kefka. (Not that this is a Kefka-vs-Sephiroth fight; it isn't supposed to be. And I don't want it to be, 'cause then I wouldn't be able to vote; I'd call that a tie.)The.Dreadnought 21:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Rydia vs. Quistis Trepe

Two hot girls with whips.

Support

1. I suggested it User:Last tsurugi
2. yes - Ninja of Wind - 21:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
3. Good idea. Rydiaofmist
4. You get my vote. Judge Balthier 14:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
5. Probably a landslide for Rydia, but I'm in anyway.
6. Rydia would (probably) own, but it would be a pretty interesting battle. -Alarielle- 19:48, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
7. Sure. ~ Anonymous
8. My name is Drake Clawfang, and I approve this message. Drake Clawfang 04:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
9. Definately!!Xlatinsorax 03:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
10. Template:BfDsig

Comments

==Fighters vs. Mages== At the beginning of any game with jobs, you have to choose wheather to use magic or weapons as your main form of attack. which one is preferred?(by "Fighters" i mean weapon users)

Support

1. It's mine. User:Last tsurugi
2. yes - Ninja of Wind - 21:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
3. yup Rydiaofmist
4. OK. -Alarielle- 19:49, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
5. It's cool. AnonyMan
6. This sounds great! I'm just hoping this doesn't turn into something like Cloud and Squall vs. Vivi and Rosa. If its a battle of the classes, I'm all for it! Xlatinsorax 22:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
7. Cool! Kuzlalala 10:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

===Comments===

FF VI vs. FF VII

Support

1. The 2 games with the biggest fanbases here. 1stclasswarrior 21:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Read the rules - No game fights allowed. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 01:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
2. HADOKEN! ScatheMote 22:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

==Ultima vs. Zodiark== The High Seraph vs. The Keeper of Precepts, Holy vs. Dark, Perfect vs. Too Powerful. Judge Balthier 14:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. I don't know if this was already done or not. Judge Balthier 14:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Why not ? -Alarielle- 19:50, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
3. I'm interested. - Ninja of Wind - 01:19, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
4. The Fallen Angel and Rebel Esper against the Esper who even the gods feared would grow too powerful. Sounds like an interesting battle. ~ Anonymous
5. Two summons from XII. This is so original it just might work. Werefang 18:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

===Comment===

Sephiroth vs Genesis

The two one-winged angels duking it out. Project S against Project G. What more could you ask for?

Reject

1. Although I'm dying to see a battle involving Genesis, the truth is that Sephiroth would dominate. ~ Anonymous
2. Queit true anonymous, Genesis will truely get caned by Sephiroth.Sephiroth has the theme song, the long sword and is in Dissidia no contest all out to Sephiroth, although i like Genesis reciting LOVELESS. but Go Sephiroth!!! [User: Zodiarkeclipse1234567]
3. Although I like both of these characters, Sephiroth has more fans and would never lose. And Progect G is named after Angeal's mother, not Genesis. Werefang 18:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
4. Sephiroth has already been clearly shown able to take on both Angeal AND Genesis, at the same time, without breaking a sweat. Genesis on his own is bound to get sliced into so many pieces we won't even bother counting. (SOLDIER1stClass)
5. I thought I had voted on this. People don't like Genesis. Is a bad character, and Sephiroth is Sephiroth. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 01:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Ifrit vs Belias

A clash of the fire Summons. Blackwing11 20:41, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. They're too similar for this fight to be any good. Sorry. - Ninja of Wind - 01:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
2. I'm pretty sure that Ifrit would own. ~ Anonymous
3. This match would be a landslide. Judge Balthier 21:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

The Extreme vs Kurayaminokumo

Two final boss song belong to two Villainess.  NeoZEROX  16:24, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. I just want The Extreme in one fight its one my favorite songs and there needs to be a song fight.  NeoZEROX  16:24, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Definitly THE EXTREMEUser:Zodiarkeclipse1234567/sig
3. The Extreme. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 01:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Toad vs Mini

If you were to have either these cast on you, which would you rather it was??? SonOfAJenova 18:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. My idea... SonOfAJenova 18:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Ah, why not? --JohnnyC 00:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
3. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:33, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Hmmmm Neither Mr_Darkside
2. Status effect spells suck no matter what they do. - Ninja of Wind - 21:23, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Garland v.s. Emperor Mateus

The final bosses of FFI and FFII, Chaos and the Emperor of Hell, both have something in common. Before the glory days of final bossdom, they were just getting their start as the easiest bosses of the game. So who would win in a fight between these wimps? - Ninja of Wind - 21:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Mine - Ninja of Wind - 21:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Interesting:) Judge Balthier 17:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
3. Yes, I would like to see who would win this fight. Sibyrihl 8:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
4. Yeah, I approve this. Pime Taradox vs Death, Disgregation & Resurrection. Who would win? Zak Undersn 19:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Penelo vs Rikku

They're both blonde. They're both spunky. And they both have sibling-like bonds with the main character.

Support

1. It's my idea, so, um, yeah, I support it. ~ Anonymous
2. Seeing as how Rikku owns at being Spunky and how Penelo has no relevance to the story nor is Spunky, I would reject this but, Rikku is one of my favorite characters from FFX. Judge Balthier 17:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
3. Penelo is on the bearable and tolerable side of the "Spunky Girl" spectrum unlike Rikku and the like who are generally just annoying and stupid. A nice twist.
4. Penelo's kinda cute IMHO... Rikku is also cute... They might be irritating, but they made some memorable lines ya know. That's why I'm supporting this fight.Devil Breaker 04:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Penelo and Rikku walk into a bar. The bar explodes from the inabillity to withstand that amount of pure annoyance. I would hate to see what would happen if Penelo and Rikku walk into the DNC. - Ninja of Wind - 17:07, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
2. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 03:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Aw, Cmon! Rikku's not that annoying. -.-

Griever vs. Fenrir

Two symbols that represent different attributes of a person. The Lone Wolf vs. The Courageous Lion. Loneliness & Guilt vs. Strength & Vigilance. Judge Balthier 17:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. These symbols do Not represent the people on which they are worn, but the characteristics of a person. Judge Balthier 17:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
2. I'll support this but will others think of this as a VII vs. VIII fight?  NeoZEROX  20:48, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
3. The Badass Monkey Beats both animals' asses. Anony
4. Template:BfDsig

Comment

THIS IS NOT A FFVII vs. FFVIII match. It's a match between two MOTIFS THAT SYMBOLIZE THE CHARACTERISTICS IN A PERSON!!! NOT 1 SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL!!!....Sorry about that. I have to get this point across as quickly as possible. ^ ^ Judge Balthier 21:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Its ok I suggest a very similar fight up above. The Ultima Weapon vs. Lion Heart and made a point that is not a VII vs VIII fight.  NeoZEROX  21:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Paintbrushes vs. Megaphones

Final Fantasy has had its fair share of... er "imaginative" weapons, but Relm's use a paintbrush in battle and Cait Sith's preferred choice of a megaphone have got to be among the most bizarre. But which is the craziest?

Support

1. I kind of like it. It's pretty original. - Ninja of Wind - 01:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Creative = Vote. The.Dreadnought 20:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
3. Great idea! --JohnnyC 04:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
4. Kuzlalala 06:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
5. Template:BfDsig

Comment

I'm not voting on this since it was my idea, but I don't think we ever had a "weird weapon" battle so I've picked out two of the strangest weapons. You can also have Cards or Dictionaries if you don't like these. Jeppo 01:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

The Bell's got both weapons beat as far as Bizarre go. AnonyMan

Bells are a bizarre choice of weapon, but really weird thing is that instead of using their superpowered terrain effects that cost no MP or have any other limitation, geomancers choose to attack with these bells. It gets even weirder from there. At least in FF3, the weakest bells you can get are the strongest weapons at that point in the game. They would beat paintbrushes and megaphones hands down. - Ninja of Wind - 01:16, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, "Bells" are not really that much of a unique weapon class; though TA2 disagrees with me, a "bell" is a type of percussion-based musical instrument, like drums. Also, the Megaphone, while creative as a weapon, is possible (and I mean other than by smacking people with it.) There are things called "resonant frequencies," and sound, combined with light, is used in many non-lethal weapon systems. Similarly, if the target is ugly enough (ie, Ultros) a painting of it is an effective weapon (though a mirror might be faster, Ultros would have broken one.) Beyond hitting people with a bell, (which could hurt, though it likely wouldn't hurt much if you can hold the bell with your hands,) I can't figure out how a bell is actually a weapon. So for "bizarre," maybe, but "creative" or "imaginative," no. The.Dreadnought just wanted to throw that out there, at 23:00, 12 April 2009 (UTC).

From what I can gather from FFVII, Cait Sith uses its megaphone to tell the Mog underneath to run to the target and smack it on its head, and better megaphones makes the mog hit harder, somehow. While Bells are creative, I've only seen them used as a normal weapon i.e. bonk the enemies on the head with it. I don't know about the Paintbrush, because I have to admit I don't have the game, but whoever this Relm is, she must be mad going into battle armed with nothing more that a small wooden stick with bristles at one end! Jeppo 02:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

The point holds. I didn't specify Cait Sith's megaphone. I can use a megaphone as a weapon too. By smacking you in the head with it. So can anyone with really annoying music, but that is a different way to do so. As for Relm, well, the "Sketch" command is what the Paintbrush is really for, she's better off in the Back Row with some big Espers and magic, and she can (and should) have a Rod equipped, because they're better for stats. Also, Relm happens to be a 10-year-old girl, so, seeing as how little kids aren't likely to be lifting the Buster Sword or anything like that... And you don't really need the game. Click this link. The.DreadnoughT 03:32, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I am surprised no one has said anything about the stupid fork that Quina uses. ScatheMote 22:41, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Forks can impail people. Have you ever tried impailing someone with a paintbrush? No? Didn't think so. - Ninja of Wind - 18:15, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention that in MGS3, Snake uses a fork to, among other things, fight off an undead, invincible boss who sends the people he's killed after him, also as undead, invincible annoyances. Forks are good weapons; the ancient world knew that when they came up with tridents (which are super-sized forks on a spear shaft.) So did Snake when he got captured, and they took away his weapons and Survival Knife. He used the fork for eating, too (I think he cleaned it first...) The.DreadnoughT 22:34, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Kuja vs. Genesis

The two poets of Final Fantasy serenade their way against each other! Who will it be? The failed JENOVA Project or the failed Genome? Xlatinsorax 19:07, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. I'm in, though I think I might know what the outcome will be. Jeppo 18:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
2. I support, no matter what they say! Cluna 06 04:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
3. Sure. SilverDragon28 20:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
4. Template:BfDsig

Comment

Again, Kuja's way too much of a good character to be pitted against scrubs who sound like something from crap Fan Fiction.AnonyMan 19:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Besaid Aurochs vs. Zanarkand Abes

I Hate Blitzball, but, hey, it's something original. Tidus is on the Abes, by the way.Xepscern Highwind

Reject

1. We don't know enough of the Zanarkand Abes to pit them in a fight. Jeppo 18:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
2. I don't know. I liked FFX but blitzball wasn't exactly something a lot of people liked. This fight might alienate the people that haven't played the game. Also, like the person above me said we don't know much about the Zanarkand Abes. We don't even know if they were any good or not. 69.125.31.3 22:47, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Ramuh vs. Adrammelech

Which one would win the traditional thunder summon, Ramuh, or the new guy , Adrammelech ? Unnonymous11:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. I'm out. It will be a one-horse race, and Ixion isn't even fighting! Jeppo 18:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Ok, first of all you spelled anonymous wrong.us second of all this is THE SAME THING as Ifrit vs. Belias. And third of all.....Ixion would be a better choice. B) Judge Balthier 00:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Sabin vs. Edgar

Who deserves to be the true leader of Figaro.Xepscern Highwind

Support

1. OK, I'll support it, even if it is just single game. - Ninja of Wind - 20:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Brother Fight! (Oh I wish there's a Montblanc vs Hurdy one, but it's rejected by a lot of people...) Kuzlalala 23:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
3. I love to see this fight king vs. monk JudgeMasterKefka 17:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
4. The question has been thoroughly answered, but I'd still like to see which twin more people perfer. Anony
5. I don't see why not. They seems like a cool match up. Who do people like more: The ladies man king or the powerhouse monk? jedicam10 98.247.247.163 03:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
6. Template:BfDsig

Comments

Didn't the question of who should rule Figaro kinda get answered already, when Sabin and Edgar flipped the coin? The.DreadnoughT 20:32, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

It was doubly answered when Edgar rigged the coin-toss so that Sabin couldn't "win", thereby preventing him from taking up that kind of responsibility and making sure FF has its paragon Martial Artist. So yeah, you have a point. Anony

They fliped to see who would be king. There can still be a hidden advisor controling the king and the kingdom through him. Sabin still has a fighting chance to win that place after loosing the position of king. Also, don't try to make too much sence out of these fights or you will come up with something as ridiculous as what I just said.- Ninja of Wind - 00:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Quina Quen vs. Kimahri Ronso

Pretty Self-explanatory, battle of the Blue Mages.

Approve

1. I'm definitely one of 9 FF fans on the planet who actually like both character. But it still probaly get denied. Shame... AnonyMan
2. Nokareon: Well, I'm obviously voting for my own suggestion... I really liked Quina in IX, even if I didn't fight much with him. He added a good amount of humor to the game, and was honestly one of the most creative characters in the entire series, in my opinion. I wanted to see him in a fight, and Kimahri was the only other obvious pick for a named Blue Mage (Strago or Gau from VI or Quistis from VIII would be the other ones who could qualify as Blue Mages, but I'm pretty sure any of them would destroy Quina).
3. Template:BfDsig

Reject

1. Not really much of a fight. Quina is not exactly well liked by people and Kimahri is basicaly unknown. He is probably the least memorable character in FFX even when their are characters far worse. (That's probably why he's unknown: he's not the best, not the worst, he doesn't contribute much to the plot because he rarely speaks) - Ninja of Wind - 01:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Hmm... Blue Mage that can't stop eating vs. Blue Mage with Spears? Too much stupidity in one fight for me. The.DreadnoughT 03:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
3. No thanks. ~ Anonymous
4. I don't hate Quina so much as find it a pointless character, but still the food jokes got old fast; and it was useless to me in battle. As for Kimahri, if they're going to make Jump a Limit Break or Overdrive move, they might as well not put it in at all. SilverDragon28 21:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Uh, Ninja of Wind? I'm pretty sure you're supposed to put the number sign (#) before your vote, whether its support or reject. Because if you don't, and everyone else does, then the numbering is off. Which makes counting votes (if anyone does, I don't quite know how these fights actually get chosen) harder. I added it for you, remove it if you don't like the numbering. The.DreadnoughT 03:24, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. It just slipped my mind. Thanks for adding it. - Ninja of Wind - 00:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

The Weapons Vs Sephiroth

The classic batttle between beast and master...WHO WILL WIN Derum

Reject

1. Sephiroth isn't there master. And there not beasts.--Wddownnotup 16:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Technically, they were Sephiroth's enemies. Anyways, no.--JohnnyC 18:07, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Cecil Harvey vs Delita Heiral

Two paladins who are tainted by EVIL

Reject

1. Cecil was never a evil Paladin. He became a Paladin from being a Dark Knight because he couldn't kill the evil with darkness. ScatheMote 12:17, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
2. And Delita isn't really evil, it just he's done some shady as things towards the greater good. Only thing these two have in common is that they didn't start as Paladins. Anony

Lulu vs Tifa

Fine Xepscern Highwind. Magic Boobs vs Not-magic Boobs.

Reject

1. They're not femme fatales. Even funnier when you realize someone like the annoying Yuffie was more of one than either of 'em.Anony
2. Whoever put this, just say what it is: Boobs vs. Boobs Xepscern Highwind

Rosa VS Geezard

The similaritys are that they are both wakk as heck yo.

Approve

I approve--Wddownnotup 16:55, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Firion vs Bartz vs Gilgamesh

Firion carries a large and versatile arsenal.
Bartz copies the weapons of his friends.
Gilgamesh uses six swords simultaneously.
Battle of the weapon masters. SilverDragon28 20:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. ScatheMote 22:37, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

I was talking about their Dissidia incarnations. SilverDragon28 14:20, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, in that case I can't tell you if this is good or not since I don't play Dissidia. I'll just delete my vote now. - Ninja of Wind - 22:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Squall vs Laguna

The VIII version of Tidus vs Jecht, but with much better chracters on both sides.

Ramza Beoulve vs Luso Clemens

Protagonists of two different FFT, they can both learn Ultima in FFT

Reject

1. I don't think people are even very aware of Luso's existence. At least I'm not.--JohnnyC 18:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
2. No-no-no! Kuzlalala Squee! 10:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Sphere Grid vs License Board

Eh. They seem related.

Approve

1. Curious...Kuzlalala 00:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. I am borderlined, but still edging more to reject because neither of these have anything special about them. All they are for is to have a way to choose the abilities characters learn in FFX and FFXII, so in that sense, they are the same. If you are asking which is more liked, don't bother. Licence board is going to win by a landslide. - Ninja of Wind - 03:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Griever vs. Alexander(FFIX)

Two of the most powerful summon in their game that you cannot summon yourself, so why not let them battle it out to see which one is stronger or well more liked?

Support

1. I support it coz its my idea.Mr_Darkside 09:14, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

1. Griever appeared for a brief battle at the end of FF8. And even if Alexander is specified to be from FF9, people aren't going to forget all the other games he's been in. Griever's already lost.--JohnnyC 18:08, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Montblanc vs. Hurdy vs. Nono

Three moogle brothers from Ivalice who had appeared more than one time. Who should be the one who gets more fame, kupo?

Support

1. Since it's my idea. Kuzlalala 10:17, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Well, it's obvious Montiblanc would win, but I'm more curious on how the DNC would deal with a 3-way fight, will they break tradition, or deny the challenge?  Armageddon11!  13:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
3. I want to know if three-way fight would be allowed.JudgeMasterKefka 14:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
4. Template:BfDsig
5. Nice one Kuz, you really want a moogle fight. Count me in!!! Devil Breaker 06:10, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment

I read one of the archives and I saw a three way fight. I think it's that battle system vote or something. Kuzlalala 00:29, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Or maybe you would want to delete one of the moogles above? Kuzlalala Squee! 10:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Genesis vs. Sephiroth

Two crazy superSOLDIERS who are products of weird alien cell experiments

Reject

1. Already been sugested, Sephy would win hands down.  Armageddon11!  13:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Only a extremely little amount of people likes Genesis. And I'm not one of them. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 00:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Odin vs Yojimbo

Man-who-likes-to-cut-things-in-half on a horse vs weird skinny man-who-likes-to-cut-things-in-half for a price

Reject

1. ScatheMote 13:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:35, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Zalera vs Odin

The useless-when-you-need-them-most summon of FFXII and, well, most of the other final fantasies

Reject

1. ScatheMote 13:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Tournesol vs Zodiac Spear

The two mostest ULTIMATEST weapons in FFXII. I don't like wyrmhero blade.

Approve

1. I approve. MY IDEA. I've always debated this within myself.~Anonymous

Reject

1. ScatheMote 13:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
2. - Ninja of Wind - 22:38, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Tournesol has more blocking ability but zodiac spear is a little faster and much stronger but since there's a damage cap anyway...

Vivi vs. Rydia

The link is being Black Mages.

Approve

1. Nokareon: I'm obviously approving my own idea. So I was honestly surprised that of all the characters these two have gone up against, they've never gone up against each other, especially considering the popularity both of them have. I think this would be an interesting fight to see.
2. I like the fight, but it probably won't happen because it is between two of the most overused characters in the DNC (besides Sephiroth) - Ninja of Wind - 22:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
3. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
4. Template:BfDsig

Reject

1. Vivi, always cool. Never get old to see him. Rydia, unfortunately has a bit of a gap between her and the rest of the DNC Titans(Vivi being one). And I believe she lost to all the ones she went against. Anony

Necron vs. Safer Sephiroth

Two of the best final bosses ever.

Reject

1. Sephiroth is OK, but Necron serves no purpose in FF9 and so should be rejected. - Ninja of Wind - 22:25, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Nope Just doesn't go well. AnonyMan
3. Nokareon: Blowout because at least people know what Sephiroth is.

Comments

Safer Sephiroth's a joke of a final boss...actually alot of the Final Bosses are jokes. Necron's sort of a joke because there not much context and detail to his character, then again that just may be part of IX's homage and allusions to previous games. Anony

Rydia vs Garnet Til Alexandros XVII

Two of the greatest and most beautiful summoners in the Final Fantasy series.

Approve

1. Anony

Comment

Primary focus of abilities be damned Eiko>Garnet in Summoning as well as White Magic. AnonyMan

I thought it was Garnet>Ekio in Summoning and Garnet<Eiko in White Magic. - Ninja of Wind - 21:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Technically, yes. Garnet's more focused on summoning she has more of them. But quantity doesn't equal quality in this case. Anony

Still, Garnet gets all the good summons while Eiko gets 4 near useless summons (ignoring the last). Garnet is really the only one who can do real damage.--Werefang 13:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Dealing Damage...in FFIX. Every character can dish out quad-9s very easily(especially the ones people hate most). Eiko's Summons are more versatile; some do damage(and simultaneously revive), some cast buffs, and some just are awesome. She's just a better game play choice once she shows up. Anony

Amarant v.s. Kimahri

Two characters who have their class types mixed between some of the best classes in the series. Amarant: Monk/ Ninja combo. Kimahri: Blue Mage/ Dragoon combo. Which one pulls off their multi-classing better? - Ninja of Wind - 21:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Those happen to be my favorite four classes in the series, by the way. - Ninja of Wind - 21:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
2. They're also fairly silent and are almost an afterthought with their games stories. They also happen to both be awesome as all hell. AnonyMan
3. Template:BfDsig

Eden vs Odin

Two monsters with devostating attacks wich both are pretty much instant kills. 23:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Kingdom of Baron vs Archadian Empire

Two once great kingdoms that eventually resorted to oppression(due to bad leadership).

Dark Messenger vs One-Winged Angel

Two awesome final boss themes (I refuse to call that random tacked-on wierdo the final boss of IX) SilverDragon28 19:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Approve

Mine. SilverDragon28 19:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Brotherhood vs Revolver

Two very very very identifiable swords that have unique design(Buster Sword was like a Zweihander that looked like a kitchen knife.)

Approve

You know that this is gonna be a blowout!...But I'll still vote for Brotherhood. Judge Balthier 15:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Revolver vs Hyperion

The only two gunblades in VIII. Forget the revolver mods, they're just revolver upgrades.

Reject

1. Excuse me sir but you hadn't supported your nominee, and I reject it coz, they have nothing in common other than they're gunblades, and owned by rival gunbladers.

Omega (Final Fantasy VII) vs Necron

Two huge pains in the ass!!!

Reject

This is just another one of those "Who's worse than who?" fights. All of which are lame. - Ninja of Wind - 01:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Yuna vs Aerith

Essentially, this is a fight between the 2 most popular white mages (and summoners, I guess) in the series.

Approve

Well, I did suggest it….

Reject

1. Kuzlalala Squee! 22:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Meh, nothing special here. - Ninja of Wind - 01:42, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Nothing special? You've gotta be kidding me! With how much people bitch about the same old characters (Cloud, Squall, Sephiroth, Auron, etc.) being submitted, someone (that'd be me) decides, "Hey, white mages, heroines, debatably more influential than the main characters, messiah-like, staff chicks, this seems pretty unique," and you honestly think it ISN'T? I also want to see Genesis in a fight, but there's like 3 submissions with him, I don't have an idea for his equal in another game, and I was honestly pretty proud of this idea....Neo Bahamut 20:27, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

When you put it that way, it is pretty original compared to some of the other suggestions, but white mages just don't seem like they can duke it out as well as other characters. It's also because Yuna is kind of pushed out of the way in the plot in the middle of the game. It also happens to Aerith in the form of her being killed, but that actually adds some depth to her story. - Ninja of Wind - 17:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Dark Knight vs Paladin

I know this battle was made before, but I want to make a hue. This is not a dark versus light battle. This is not a black magic versus white magic. This is a battle between two life styles, two ways of protect someone. Dark Knight, the sword, who never hesitates to sacriface himself in a kamikaze battle, destroying himself with the enemies, giving no time for them to damage his allies. Paladin, the shield, who never hesitates to sacriface himself taking all the damage from the enemies and giving no chance for them to damage his allies. "You'll die with me" versus "over my corpse!". "The best defense is a great attack" versus "the best attack is a great defense".

And the first fight was long ago. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 23:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Approve

1. It was my suggestion. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 23:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
2. It's O.K. Even if I don't really get along with these kind of jobs ("I inflict myself damage then you die" & "I can't heal nor fight but god's with me"), they're cool. Zak Undersn 13:35, 24 April 2009 (U#TC)
3. Meh, why not, the paladins will win easily. Cloudofdarkness was [| here]
4. I like your arguments. Karu
5. Hell yes, I think this is an excellent fight! [Anonymous]

Reject

1. I was never a big fan of the ideas of dark knights or paladins. Dark knights are too emo by cutting themselves just to get that little bit more damage. And paladins have to actively cover other people, which takes away their chances to use their incredible strength to destroy the enemy. They are usefull when needed, but are not very good classes to stay as. - Ninja of Wind - 01:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment

==Gilgamesh vs Ultros== The battle of the recurring bosses! One one hand, we have Gilgamesh who has had enough of expository banter and will become the greatest swordsman of Ivalice. On another hand, we have Ultros/Orthros who has more lives than he does arms and thinks you are not worthy to be in the presence of octopus royalty. Both have been in multiple games in the series and have some of the most famous lines. They are some of the most beloved characters and need to step out of the sidelines and fight!

Support

1. I suggested it, and I really think this would be a great fight! Xlatinsorax 03:43, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject

Been done. Gilgamesh won. It wasn't pretty. RowdyCMoore

Comments

Really? I tried checking in the archives but didn't find anything....Xlatinsorax 23:23, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Never MindXlatinsorax 23:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Garnett vs. Ashe

Both princesses who would be Queen (by end of game). Also, both have weird full names.

I know this isn't a lot to go by, but if you think about it, they are very similar.Xepscern Highwind

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Kefka v.s. Hojo

Two psycho who love to torment half-human girls. NeoZEROX  00:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

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1. Yes I am aware that Kefka will destory Hojo, but it is new right.  NeoZEROX  00:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

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1. As much as I don't like to reject fights, I feel this would just be pointless. Hojo would, as you said, be destroyed. The characters aren't that related, & all & all, it would be a waste of a week. One-sided fights sort off piss the wiki-goers off, you know....Neo Bahamut 00:52, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Leo v.s. Angeal

Two honorable warriors, who die with honor.

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Red XIII vs Freya Crescent

They're both red. They're both a non-human species. And they're both wise, taciturn characters. And they're both cool. ^^

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1. OMG FREYA IN THE DNC. <3 Template:BfDsig

Krile vs Eiko

They're both ditzy and live with Moogles...? Shut up. <_< Template:BfDsig

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Ramza vs Basch

They are both considered traitors throughout the entire world but they are actually people with a strong sense of justice. --TenzaZangetsu 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Ragnarok vs Illumina

The strongest weapons in FFVI, but which one will be the strongest? (besides Ultima Weapon) --dornob25, 11:11 AM, April 25, 2009