I'm surprised this fight hasn't been done. Here we have two leading ladies, both White Mages (to a certain extent.) They can both summon one way or another. They're both gentle and generally kind. The similarities go on and on.
I get the Malboro Bad Breath reference, but since when does Behemoths have Breath attacks? Uppfinnarn 19:44, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
What? This has nothing to do with Aerith and Yuna :/ FinalFantasyAerith 15:29, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
You sure? You even smelt their breath? Aerith wouldn't be too bad, but Yuna lives on a tropic island, that hates machinary, thus no breath mints. Be getting fairly bad after a few days...
You know MadHatter, despite the fact you don't like FFX, this fight has gotten some pretty sizable support. What's your beef with FFX? Why even bother saying it? If you don't like it, don't vote. Judging by the number of support votes, a lot of people like this idea. TheBlueDragoon01:42, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
Also, let me clarify what I meant when I said it's one of the few instances where I'd vote for Aerith. Yuna's a better party member, but I like Aerith a bit more as a character. At the same time, however, there are a lot of other characters whom I like more. Don't get me wrong, Aerith isn't bad by a long shot, it's just that there are so many others who are better in one way or another. Also, getting killed about halfway through the game doesn't give you much room for character development, so that's part of it... King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:55, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
I'm still amazed at how much support this fight has garnered. Seriously, thanks everyone. TheBlueDragoon
Barthandelus is a major antagonist (if not the major antagonist) of Final Fantasy XIII. Also, one could mention that Sephiroth, Kefka, Jecht/Braska's Final Aeon, (Zemus/Zeromus is debatable, since he only has one form that you fight, as I recall), and who knows how many other bosses. Oh yeah, and also Gilgamesh. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:32, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
Besides the obvious connection (COUGHBOOBSCOUGH), They're both of the "strong woman" archetype, they care deeply for their friends and loved ones, and they're both very powerful members of their respective parties, but on opposite ends of the Job Class Spectrum. Lulu is a Black Mage and Tifa is a Monk. I could go on and on here, so hopefully you get the idea.
Tifa's more of a shy and demure character who just happen to have a more contrasting way of fighting. I'd say none of the other playable females in VII have a personality similar enough to Lulu to compare. But there are other things to look for like the obvious traits" or their contrasting aspects like their abilities and stats. I don't mean to rant. AnonyMan 01:28, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
Locke would win without a fight. MadHatter1284 07:54, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
Now that I'm playing V and VI, I have to agree with the Hatter.King NothingWhere's your crown? 15:19, May 21, 2010 (UTC) EDIT: I haven't been on VI in a while, but having done almost everything in V Advance (just Omega MKII, Neo Shinryu, Cloister of the Dead, and the Sealed Temple left), I'm not so sure anymore. Faris has actually turned out to be one of the strongest characters I've had in any Final Fantasy, with only Squall, Tidus, Cecil, and my Knight, Red Wizard, and Black Wizard on the original FF being able to top her. But, having recently resumed VI, Locke might stand a decent chance. I'll reserve further judgement for later. King NothingWhere's your crown? 14:29, June 11, 2010 (UTC) EDIT #2: Having played through VI now, I can honestly say that Locke started out well, but by the time I got him again in the World of Ruin, he just wasn't able to hold up against the likes of the Figaro Brothers. Hell, even Umaro actually turned out a bit better -- not that I used him for more than a few fights as a test run, anyway. King NothingWhere's your crown? 01:23, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
Played V, Faris doesn't have a chance.Tonberi Shadou 15:41, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
I believe this should be an interesting fight as they are both Unique in race wise plus they look so similar in there Trance forms they are also super powerfull come on a Angel of Death Vs Half Esper its gotta be close also both are Favourites of the public so it could get interesting....
This would just be really boring. While I can accept the existence of superficial votes (OMG, random character is so hot!) in regular fights, an entire match over that stuff sounds excruciatingly painful. Yrl 05:45, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
The Ultimate Mage This would be boring, cuz is the SAME character and the match over the looks on the same character in two games would be a little stupid (Well... I'm not superficial but I think she looks better with green hair).
Rational: They are both loyal protectors to the person they swear to protect(Garnet and Yuna), though one tends to get kind of goofy at times while the other one stays serious most of the time. Though you could also call it a Warrior VS Samurai fight if you'd like.
Seriously? Are you shitting me? Adelbert doesn't stand a chance, even if he does at least have a cool last name, because his first name completely nullifies it. Adelbert? Honestly.... King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:29, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
Since when does Figaro Castle have a drill? TheBlueDragoon22:29, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
Yea im sure that Figaro Castle dosent have a drillKassandria 21:21, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
A better idea would've been one of the Gardens (Balamb or Galbadia, since Trabia Garden got pwned beyond belief). King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:36, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
How can you say it doesn't have a drill WHEN IT GOES F**KING UNDERGROUND!" TARDISES 15:38, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
Vincent and Squall are both characters from games that did originally make it to the U.S., can both be heavily customized, and don't talk that much in their respective games. (Well, for Squall, it's relative to Rinoa, Irvine, Seifer, and Edea). King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:41, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
OK, this was meant as an April Fool's suggestion, because I've noticed, like many of you "love" these two people :P Let's see now, if it get's more than 1 vote :D MMLNメーマウリアン 07:56, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
I never found these people useless. Heck, Penelo's killed more bosses than the rest of my crew. We just sat there and got spanked. That's what happens when I turn her into a black mage, I suppose.King of Noobs 14:37, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
I didn't use Vaan all that much, but Penelo was usually in my team, along with Basch and Ashe. She wasn't that great, but she was better than Fran for the position of "mage-fighter". King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 12:11, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
Rational: They pretend they're good so you trust them, then they become bad. And they never want to actually die after you've defeated them :/ But who was the better double-crosser and the nastiest boss?
Sound something similar to my suggestion, so yes! Always love Seymour as an enemy, except when he was kicking my @$$! Zeypher 14:53, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
I like this one. The l'Cie, which became a puppet working for the very enemy, he was working for, against the Maester, who was supposed to guide the people, but wanted to become the very monster, that threatened them... - Sounds like an interesting battle to me! MirrorshardSceada 19:16, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
its intresting because they show a striking resemblance when cid turns l'cie and seymours forms
Gahh :O Votes already? Thank-you!! Btw I hope I formatted this right... This is my first time trying to use a formatting do-hickey and I wouldn't call myself the most computer friendly person lol xD FinalFantasyAerith 21:34, April 03, 2010 (UTC)
There are people who are here nearly every hour monitoring this page. XD The formatting is alright, just one piece got cut out, but I'm not complaining. This is a very interesting suggestion. I haven't got to fight Cid Raines yet though. >.< TheBlueDragoon02:01, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
Omg *Is embarrassed* I suggested it too early!! >_< I'm sorry!! I hope I didn't spoil too many people... :S FinalFantasyAerith 20:16, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
Nah, its cool. XD I'm just behind due to sheer laziness. I know the storyline for the game, I'm just too lazy to get off my ass and fight Barthandelus. TheBlueDragoon02:35, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
I actually had more trouble with Barthandelus. Raines was easy. TheBlueDragoon03:40, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
Odd. I beat Barthandelus on my third try, but I've fought Raines 12 times and he kicks my ass every single time. Going to need excessive level grinding... King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:26, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
Barthandelus is kind of a push over every time you fight him. So long as you put a little bit of thought into customizing your team I'm sure he can always be beaten on the second or third try. With Cid, grinding isn't going to save you. I needed 6 attempts, I think. You might want to have all your characters fully mastered in their primary roles (for that point in the game), but any additional grinding in their other recently obtained roles would be a horrible waste of time. At that point, you need to carefully think out a strategy, and adjust accordingly each time if and when you get a Game Over. Shift characters around as needed, and if necessary adjust/add paradigms to your chosen team of 3. You'll need to do a decent amount of this paradigm shuffling later on in the game especially if you want to go after the superbosses. That having been said, either Seymour's second or third form gave me a decent amount of trouble when I was playing X for the first time. Yrl 06:18, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
While I like both characters (or, well, think they're both well done) Seymour is fought 4 times, Cid once. Seymour is a true villain who wants to destroy the world for the better part of the game; Cid (in my humble opinion) is an anti-hero and ultimately a good guy who sacrifices himself with the hope the world can be saved. Yrl 05:54, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
You would think right, it is better. Why is Genesis vs. Sephiroth suggested all the time when it's obvious who will win? Tonberi Shadou 14:01, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
But then, what would be a SOLDIER fight that isn't quite so obvious? If we include Deepground, then the first choices I can think of are: Rosso vs. Angeal, Genesis vs. Weiss, Weiss vs. Nero, and Angeal vs. Azul. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:19, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
I would have to say Genesis vs. Weiss, Weiss would easily beat Nero. you could also do Azul vs. Nero, or Azul vs. Angeal. Tonberi Shadou 13:28, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Rational: Well since we already did an Amano Nomura fight i thought it would be kind of cool to put two pretty good music composers together. And BTW the reason i didn't put Uematsu here is because i just know that it would be a landslide. Ishimoto did the music for pretty much every installment to the Compilation of FFVII except for AC, DoC and FFVII itself, he also did Dissidia and Agito XIII. Hamauzu did DoC, FFXIII and a some of FFX. Just so you'd know.
This was inspired by Drake's Icebrand versus Flametongue. Here we have the two most recurring swords in the series. Both were introduced in the original Final Fantasy, and they've become a series staple since then. They appear in almost every main series game, and in most of the spin offs in one form or another.
Rational: Long story short, both have had more than one hair color, at least one of which was unusual (Terra's green hair; Ritz' hair is white, dyed pink) have a lot of red in their artwork, and a bit of a lack of self-control (in the areas of "not resorting to violence to solve every problem" and "not turning into an Esper and going insane" respectively.) Also, it would be the first time Ritz is in the DNC.
A long time ago, when I came here, I started the Dissidia Dream Characters thread in the Blackjack, so that we could create our own fan based Dissidia movesets of characters. Pikmin Master, Mangaartist, Exdeath65 and myself, Mask no Oni spent hours of time having fun creating these movesets.
And last month, Pikmin Master and Mangaartist had a contest to see which of our fanwanks were better. It then came down to Razma and Chocobo....
Now, here in the Dragon's Neck, I want to know: Who is the best nominee!?
No connection between the characters. What's the relationship here besides some long-forgotten Dissidia char thread no one cares about? We've all done that, but you don't see me nominating Gilgamesh vs Seifer. DoreikuKuroofangu 00:36, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
On that same thread, it says that Chocobo already won anyway.Shadou! 13:48, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
Rational: The two black dudes of Final Fantasy. They each use guns, are in a game where they can both use magic or physicals, and are in the two best selling games of the series. Which one is better, or at least better suited to be Mr. T? Also, Sazh has never been in the DNC before.
Shadow Lord? FFXI? Shadou! 17:37, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
Half of the users here don't like Vaan and the other half don't even know who Shadow Lord is. Doubt this would be interesting I can see SL getting a few spite votes for him due to Vaan's unwarranted hate. AnonyMan
XI would be killed in this fight (even if the users hate Vaan) FinalFantasyAerith 23:29, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
I don't like Vaan, and I'm sure this would be a landslide. Not worth it, sorry. Zeypher 14:44, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
I don't get it... So I vote NOOOOOe BboyMog 02:23, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
I see your reasoning, and I even told myself these two would be in Dissidia 2 (if it ever comes out) to represent XI and XII. But there was a reason these two weren't in the first Dissidia... -highonhastega 11:54, July 2, 2010
Note: There is no FF character worse than Vaan or a game worse than FFXI. TheBlueDragoon03:55, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
Note: All of FFII, III and most of FFV's charcters are worse,but there is no game worse than XI Shadou! 13:49, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
I happen to like Bartz and Firion's party. TheBlueDragoon16:50, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
Not actually bad, they were just forgettable, and Bartz was the only good that was from FFV. If they were from a more recent game then they would be better than Vaan. Tonberi Shadou 13:49, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Bartz? only good from FF5? what the HELL are you on!? Unless you're talking about party members only, you're forgetting Gilgamesh, and that is unforgivable. TARDISES 07:29, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
Party members. Duh. and if you count the ones that aren't part of the party, , there is Exdeath. there was really nothing great about Gilgamesh besides knowing that every time you fight him you get an easy win.Tonberi
I can't remember his name, but the turtle sage was awesome, Gilgamesh was funny, Exdeath was (in my opinion) among the greatest FF Final Bosses ever, along with Chaos (FFI), Ultimecia (clearly VIII. Understand me here: the battle was awesome, not the character), Braska's Final Aeon (obviously X), and Omega Weiss (Dirge of Cerberus.). Granted, the Death Penalty makes it a lot easier, but.... hey, there's an idea! Try killing him WITHOUT the Death Penalty.... Safer Sephiroth wasn't that great in my opinion as far as bosses go, and I only just started the World of Ruin on VI. I've also only just started II, so I can't judge Emperor Mateus, either. Anyway, back to V. Bartz, Lenna, and Faris have actually been among my most powerful FF characters ever, almost on the same level as Cloud, Squall, Vincent, Tidus, and Auron. Also, I liked all FFV playable characters except Krile. They should've let her die instead and keep Galuf. He was better, but not by much. King NothingWhere's your crown? 12:50, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Because I suggested it. Cluna06 00:14, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
I thought they were useful....JudgeBalthier 16:47, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
This could be fairly interesting to see. TheBlueDragoon19:22, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
I had zero chance against Brynhildr until I had Sazh start spamming Haste, Faith, and Vigilance. It actually improved the Gestalt gauge a fair bit for me. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 12:24, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
Might be more open to make it buffs vs debuffs in general. 8bit 15:03, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
A location fight, really? ShadouTonberi 15:30, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
A location fight would be cool, but not this one. Sorry. ShirubaKurono 22:24, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
If you want a location fight in-game then why not Balamb Garden vs. Galbadia Garden, for instance? Or how about the Calm Lands vs. Mi'ihen Highroad? Heck, even Dalmasca vs. Archadia! I seriously would avoid a XIII location fight until people are much, much more familiar with that game's universe. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:55, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
Not even worth it, sorry. Zeypher 14:43, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
Shadow, we've done weapons, we've done enemies, we've done summons - what's wrong with a location fight? A.J.two(Smashboards)
Enemies and summons are different, How would either side get an advantage in a location fight? ShadouTonberi 14:02, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
Nothing wrong with the fight, I just don't know very much about XIII. ShadouTonberi 14:12, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
How could locations get an advantage? The difficulty of the enemies there, the BQ (Badass Quotient) of the inhabitants, relevance to the plot, background music, design... need I go on? Good idea, but the wrong areas at the wrong time. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:52, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
imo very onesided fight, from what i read, Fang is everybody's dream lover, so she would crush Lightning like an eggshell :) MMLNメーマウリアン 22:10, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I'm not so sure about that. Remember Lightning V Terra? Lightning fought Terra to a tie. I think this would be a VERY close and interesting match. TheBlueDragoon02:15, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
And who was Terra now? Terra has been forgotten, and that's why Lightning managed to fight to that draw TonberiThe Shadou 13:51, April 23, 2010 (UTC
No please, don;t make me choose! The abandoned one.
I voted for this. I'm a little afraid that Lightning will win in a landslide since she's (ostensibly) the main character of their game, but it sounds like a lot of people agree that Fang is incredible. Not sure about the dream lover comment, it seems like there's an awful lot of people fantasizing about Lightning too. At least I hope the hormone-driven votes should balance out well enough. They're both two of the most badass female characters in FF history along with Celes and Beatrix. Fang is stronger, but Lightning's more well-rounded. I also think Fang's got the better personality. Yrl 06:43, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
I'ts good in theory, but I can somehow see it being tilted in Omega's favour. After all, in 4 of the games I have access to (1 DoS, FF5, FF6A and FF8) Omega appears, and has an overpowered attack in half if not 3 of them. (Circle is EVIL in FF5, and Terra Break is even worse from what I've seen. I reserve judgement on FF6's Omega's attacks since I haven't faced ihm or remmeber videos of his attacks that much, but I wouldn't put it past him to have Ultima. Worst FF1's had was Wave Cannon.), and Shinryu in only 3! (FF1 DoS, FF5, FF9.), although to Shinryu's benefit, he IS a story boss in FF9, whereas Omega's jsut an obstacle to get round in FF5. Had pretty impressive attacks, too. I haven't even killed FF1's yet. TARDISES 00:04, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
Shinryu was also in FF10 and he was way overpowered compared to FFX's Omega. FFV's Shinryu would kill me before I was able to damage it, though most versons of Omega are overpowered except the FF1 and FFX versions ShadouTonberi 15:36, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, but Shinryu's nothing next to Nemesis. I've played through the only game with TIDUS-ONLY, and I've done everything EXCEPT kill Nemesis.... Mostly because I need about another 6000 HP. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:43, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
Nemesis is by far the most difficult in FFX, but Shinryu was annoying since you only have Tidus who can seriously attack it. Tonberi Shadou 13:51, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I knew this one guy who beat Shinryu using only Rikku. Something about 20,000 damage per hit and seven hits in-between each of the boss's. Also, one might say that Omega got some revenge in terms of over-poweredness thanks to Nemesis, who's basically a golden Omega on steroids from God. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:46, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
I was stuck using Tidus,Shinryu kept killing the other two because I never used them . also,in tn overpowered terms don't forget Omega Mk.II,(FFXII) It was supposed to have more power than what it had in the game. Speaking of Nemesis, are you trying to beat Nemesis with tidus alone? Tonberi Shadou 13:48, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
I haven't tried recently, but yes, I took a Tidus-only challenge, and I've done EVERYTHING but kill Nemesis (which I haven't done on any of my normal playthroughs, either). As for the Omega Mk.II, I never got far enough in XII to see/fight him, so I wouldn't know (I lost interest around 1/2-way through). At present, Tidus has ALL of his stats over 230, if not 255 (and yes, that's including Luck). He's got around 29000 or so HP, and at least 5000-6000 MP. Since I gave him a weapon with One MP Cost, Break Damage Limit, Magic Booster, and... I forget what the last ability was, but I think it's Triple Overdrive... anyway, since that's his weapon, I'm going start getting rid of MP Nodes and swap 'em out for HP Nodes. It's not as if I can't get enough spheres for the job... King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:54, May 10, 2010 (UTC) EDIT: YES!!! Just last night, I finally managed to defeat Nemesis, and using ONLY TIDUS!!! His stats, or at least a rough approximation, were as follows:
Everything else: 255
Weapon: Excalibur (Break Damage Limit, Magic Booster, One MP Cost, Magic +20%)
Armor: Endless Road (Break HP Limit, Break MP Limit, Auto-Haste, Deathproof).
Main Abilities that I used: Auto-Life, Protect, Doublecast, Drain, Ultima, Curaga, Esuna.
I do not have patience for something like that, I have beaten Nemesis before, but never with just Tidus. I have the high enough stats but only 10,000 Hp because Hp is useless. Tonberi Shadou 13:55, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
The HP is not useless in this fight, because at full, I could survive anything except for Armageddon (which you can't survive anyway). And now that I think about it, if I were to swap Break MP Limit for Poisonproof, then I wouldn't need Esuna... anyway, I was dealing between 140000-170000 damage per turn with Doublecast Ultima, and usually 100000 damage on the turns I used Doublecast Ultima + Drain. Anyhow, soon I plan to try it without using Ultima, and just with Quick Hit, which is going to mean a physical weapon instead of a magic weapon. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:25, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Quick hit is the easiest way to win the fight, and I switched for an Aeon to avoid armageddon (automatic 99,999). Nemesis counters everything else I used with ultima, Including Overdrives. The first time I fought it I thought I could kill it with blitz ace. Not knowing that it had 10 Million hp, it killed me with Ultima and that other attack that it uses. Tonberi Shadou 13:41, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Let me guess... Ultra Spark? Yeah, that one's a bitch. And while Quick Hit is probably faster, it depends on the weaponry that you're using. After I kill 'im with Tidus using a physical weapon, I'll go ahead and let everyone else get some stat gains. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 15:45, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Yes Ultra Spark, if you don't have all the extra HP, ultra spark hits for about 23000-30000, a one hit kill.Tonberi Shadou 16:26, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, I thought so. Since I only hit it with Ultima/Ultima and Ultima/Drain, it never used Ultima on me, I used Protect so that his physicals only dealt around 7,000 damage (instead of 14,000). Ultra Spark always hit me between 29,500 and 32,000 but I had those extra 4K HP, so it wasn't too much trouble. I could pretty much safely ignore Ethereal Canon, the most annoying things were Armageddon and the fact that Ultra Spark also inflicts the Poison ailment. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:24, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
if you know how to avoid the stronger attacks then Nemesis is an easy boss. It's also possible to survive ethereal cannon without extra hp if you have auto-protect, auto-shell And auto-haste.Tonberi II 14:16, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, and I've killed him about six times or so now. I still like all those extra HP, since they make other Pain in the Ass bosses like Earth Eater and Shinryu easier too. Wings to Discovery and Fortune Spheres. *sigh* At least Ultima Buster is relatively easy. Also, having fought Omega and Shinryu on V, I think I might be leaning towards Shinryu. Omega was a lot easier. Still hard, but not as hard. King NothingWhere's your crown? 12:55, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Futile. Long Gui steps on Vercingetorix. Vercingetorix = Dead -- SorcerorNobody 13:14, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
How about superbosses that people know a little better? Tonberi Shadou 15:32, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
This will turn into votes for Long Gui (because he's tougher) vs. votes against Long Gui (couldn't beat it). The trick with Vercingetorix is getting 5 stars. Defeating him is simple enough. Yrl 06:49, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
I suggested this once before and it got fairly high support, so here it is again. Two non-human party members who rarely speak, and if properly trained/equipped, can be devastatingly strong party members. Plus it would be Umaro's first time in the DNC.
As much as I like Umaro and believe that the Wiki's users will have obtained him, Kimahri is a non-secret, controllable character that plays an actual role in X's storyline. Yrl 06:52, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Rational: I was surprised that this hasn't been done yet but... I think they are arguably the too most popular protagonists from arguably the too most popular games. Well theres also the thing that these characters don't really know who they are and often get confused(too often maybe?) with issues about the past.
Edit: They also both get manipulated by the antagonist.
Rational: I noticed this one hasn't been suggested yet. Here we have two main antagonists that are both highly skilled mages, yet are also proficient with swords. They both wear full body armor that covers their faces. Both are fought in game as a boss and they both have some relationship to the protagonists. Golbez is Cecil's brother and Exdeath was first fought by Dorgann, who was Bartz's father from another world. They were also the first two villains to have their own theme songs.
Can anyone smell family feud? They're catfighting over Hope. Is it a crack explanation of why they're fighting? Yes. Can I actually see it happening for that reason? Have Hope age another few years, and then I certainly can. King Nothing 11:56, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
The only good thing Vanille has going for her is her Death spell. Consequently, I support this just for the opportunity to vote for Fang to gouge Vanille's annoying voice right out of her throat with 1337 Uber-Str-stat Kain's Lance pwnage. Vanille can still cast Death with no larynx, so there's no downside to that outcome XD-- SorcerorNobody 13:12, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
The best characters from FFXIII, Lightning a very close third. Why are the females in XIII all so amazing, while the males are either annoying (Snow: arrogant and stupid; Hope: whiny and angry) or useless (Sazh: the man has horrific physical and magical strength, and his high HP is useless because he can't mediguard like Snow or Fang)? I'll admit Sazh is helpful when your team is stuck as him and Vanille. Yrl 07:23, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Rational: Now "Cid" being a recurring character/theme in Final Fantasy gives me the idea of seeing two Cid in a showdown! Now when thinking of a famous Cid, One can't help but think of the foul-mouthed Cid Highwind! Oh and he becomes an invaluable asset for the Final Fantasy VII team! Now for the second "Cid". I just finished FFXIII and I can't help but think of Cid Raines! He's awesome [spoilers removed :D]. I think it would be great to see the response and results to this face-off!! CID vs CID let's get it on!!
I suggested something like this months ago and it got nailed. You want to think of more connections than just them both being Cid characters. Doctor Cid would be better as they're both antagonistic. Other people might like this, but I just don't see this as a very interesting matchup. TheBlueDragoon05:50, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
Apart from the Cid reference how else are they connected really? I don't think this would work very well.... FinalFantasyAerith 07:33, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
Apart from antagonists Doctor Cid wouldn't make any better connection than any other Cid. Shadou! 17:42, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
a Highwind fight is good, and makes a little more sense than random cid fights, but it already happened and those two are the only Highwinds. Tonberi Shadou 14:49, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Wasn't there a Ricard Highwind at one point or another? Also, since Fang has an attack called Highwind, maybe she could be considered an honorary member... King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 15:47, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
There was Kain vs. ricard (Ricard was destroyed), and if you put Cid vs Ricard, you would have a shutout. why not do Fang vs. Kain even though Fang isn't a highwind,they are both dragoons so that would still work. Tonberi Shadou 14:13, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
Silver, you are the first person to actualy vote yes on one of my suggestions. I had several other good ideas too, but they were all used - on the first archive page. It is very hard to come up with an original fight when everything has already been done. --A.J. two 18:06, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
Someone suggested this before. I am neutral, I just think Shiva will be the clear winner, as she's been a series staple since FFIII. TheBlueDragoon18:35, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, this sounds cool. I just think of what sounds cool and wasn't used yet, it isn't hard but happens occasionally. ME making a suggestion, I mean. ShirubaKurono 18:52, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
Just because Shiva has been here longer doesn't nessisarily mean that she/they is/are going to win. There are always going to be supporters for both fighters, but the question is: who is going to get more votes? A.J.two(Smashboards)
I honestly have NO IDEA what's with the rational for this one past 'summons in multiple games.' I can only think of one motorcycle of note in the series, but I don't care for that one much due to the character who used it. TARDISES 23:58, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
Fenrir is the name of Cloud's motorcycle. I'm not sure about anything in the compilation, but it's shown quite a bit in Advent Children. In XIII, Shiva (or, rather, the Shiva Sisters) form into a motorcycle as part of Snow's Gestalt mode. And what motorcycle are you talking about? A.J.two(Smashboards)
The one from thev FF7 minigame. TARDISES 06:47, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
@SilverCrono: Seifer is not made of win. He's a stuck-up fantasist who claims to be a gunblade specialist but uses his weapon exclusively as a sword. He is kinda cool in his own way, and has some awesome lines, but overall... not made of win -- 08:23, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
It was good, wasn't it? And now that I think about it, they can both summon Shiva, and they're both capable of filling any role in the party (although the role of a physical attacker does suit them best, of course). King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:18, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
Rational:The spiky haired moody hero vs. the original brooding hero who, "wears a helmet with four eyes to emote double the ennui". "The Pretty Boy" vs "The Bad#%S" Large fanbase vs. Large fanbase, you get the idea.
I picked Rufus instead of his father because Rufus is in much more FFVII >.<
I actually think Shinra Sr. would have been a better pick, just because Rufus is a much more major antagonist than his father was, and that wouldn't be fair to Deling, as he's probably on par with the older Shinra. JohnnyC 04:37, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
Sure. I never heard of Born Anew though, so I'm guessing it'll be a landslide in favor OWA. TheBlueDragoon03:31, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
Born Anew...? Please excuse my ignorance... ShirubaKurono 20:08, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
Haven't got to Orphan yet, but with how awesome the rest of Final Fantasy XIII is, I bet it is an aweseom theme. And, if not, then OWA will probably get my vote. 13:43, April 22, 2010 (UTC) A.J.two(Smashboards)
One Winged Angel is actually my ringtone >.< FinalFantasyAerith 19:38, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
Sound interesting. I think it would be a landslide though. Zeypher 14:37, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
In theory 10000 needles should win. Right? Just a guess... FinalFantasyAerith 10:21, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
You're forgetting the Cactuar King, who has 99,999 needles - OHKO no matter your stats and equipment. But seriously, let me paraphrase the Blue Dragoon: "What. The. Fucking. Hell. Are. You. THINKING?!!?" King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:57, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
Everything regarding this suggestion has been said above. Shadou! 13:52, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
One Word NO Kassandria 18:15, April 30, 2010 (UTC) 18:15, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
You sure about that? there has been a lot of DNC suggestions that have not made sense, but This one was actually so bad that the suggestor wouldn't even sign it. Tonberi Shadou 15:10, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
This fight will be epic. Hopefully, it won't be done too soon though after the current Aerith v. Yuna fight. Yrl 07:33, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Very intriguing. It's almost impossible to predict who would win. AND it'd start a fan-war, and those are always fun. ^^ user:wtdrmfrthwbzn00:50, June 2, 2010
Definitely do this one. beano93
Probably lead to a cloud argument but I still love the idea User:Kassandria
Even though we all know it has no hope of ever reaching the DNC. Let's be honest, the sheer scale of flamewar would probably crash the wiki – nay, the internet! XD -- 16:04, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
If we do this, Ifrit will call, asking for his flames back. -highonhastega, 08:33, July 7, 2010
Against my better judgment, I'm voting for this. But the moment someone brings up that BLOODY LOVE TRIANGLE! I'll personally see to it they are neutered, and I'll flame to my heart's content. Likeacupcake 02:52, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
Not done, nominated many times. Shadou! 13:38, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
I hope not :S I did look in the archives but they weren't there.... FinalFantasyAerith 17:59, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
Not recently , but in older archives. It needs to be done, but some of the comments above that make sound like a landslide before it even starts are the reason why it has been rejected before. Besides if it is, then it's going to eventually be suggested again. Shadou! 18:08, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
I hope it is a landslide :P Just as long as it is in my favour lol xD FinalFantasyAerith 18:15, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
It's been suggested twice,but that was 2009. Also by "your favor" what do you mean? Shadou! 18:33, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
I've seen this suggested countless times but its never been done... yet. And I think by her favor, I think she means Aerith, hence her username. I don't even know who I'd vote for in this fight. A very good suggestion. TheBlueDragoon18:44, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
My name xD I wouldn't want Tifa winning lol. I was really surprised that it wasn't already there :S I thought it would cause a bit of an uproar >.< But I enjoy a flame war sometimes! Thanks BD :D FinalFantasyAerith 18:47, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
That makes a lot more sense, I should have known. Afterall, It is your user name. Anyway, I wouldn't want Tifa to win either. Shadou! 13:49, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
I'd be pissed if Tifa won this fight. I love Aerith. TheBlueDragoon16:54, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
Aerith is just a Mary Sue to me, I've always hated her, so if this is a fight I know who I'm voting for. ShirubaKurono
As I previously said, I love both Aerith and Tifa, but to be perfectly honest, I love Yuffie far more than either of the other two. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 12:36, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
I think we should do this once and for all. Landslide or not, it's completed and it won't need to be sugguested again. My vote is for Tifa! :) Zeypher 16:31, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
This fight should be done, but please leave Aerith as "Aerith" not "Aeris." Yrl 07:35, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Rational: Yes yes, I know, I know, Joker's not from Final Fantasy. But screw Kefka vs Sephiroth, screw Kefka vs Kuja and screw Kefka with Sephiroth (you sick bastards). We're running out of characters to put in the DNC, how many times did Squall end up there? This is a contest of two seemingly invincible mad clowns, Kefka is Joker, Joker is Kefka, but we're wanna know who's better. We wanna know who's the true "Agent of Chaos."
What the Hell???? There are RULES here! Tonberi Shadou 14:06, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
This shouldn't even be considered a nomination; it breaks a rule. ShirubaKurono
You sir, should be stabbed with an Imp's fork! What the fuck were you thinking? Right there at the top of the fucking page! FF characters only! Sorry, but this is as stupid as Cloud versus Chuck Norris. TheBlueDragoon
Hahahahahahahahah Bjarnster 17:59, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
One, this is dumb, rules are rules, and two, of course the Final Fantasy character would win PinkAye 07:41, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
If this happens, i'm outta here!! lmao xD BboyMog 02:16, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
I get the similarity, but the DNC would lose any and all credibility/reason to exist if this fight occurred. Maybe the following week it could be Yunalesca v. Tom Cruise v. Spiderman v. the Titanic. Yrl 07:40, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Dont tell me you guys never had this in your minds Leon5550 05:36, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
1)It may have been on some people's minds , but this cant be done. 2)there are many characters that have never been in the DNC. Mostly from XIII but many characters are available to use. 3)don't complain about characters being overused unless you know how many times that Kefka has been in the DNC, he has been used as much as Squall. Tonberi Shadou 14:06, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
I know that it can't be done (except on April Fool's Day or as a joke fight), but if you think that rationality is enough to keep me from voting for Batman's arch-nemesis, think again. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 15:28, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
I can't stop you from supporting , just don't expect it to work unless there is a joke fight week or something like that. Besides, It's likely already one sided for Kefka. Also, did you know this is not the first time this was posted here. Tonberi Shadou 17:17, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
No, I did not know that, and I don't expect it to work. But neither of these contestants are anywhere near sane/rational, so why must I be so? King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:59, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
I managed to in my first fight suggestion land a character who hadn't bene in one before. I am referring to Syldra, OFC.
That's just the thing though Mecha: It was a joke fight. There's no way in hell TA will approve this as a regular fight. And if he does, by some odd chance, may I be stabbed with the fork of an imp from Dragon Quest. TheBlueDragoon22:24, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
Myself excluded, just about everybody's going to vote for Cid Highwind, simply because they either don't remember or don't care about Cid the Al Bhed. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 12:32, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
There are some Al Bhed that are remembered. Cid is Not one of them. Same thing goes for Cids, nobody cares about Cid the Al Bhed , as he was just an excuse to put another cid into another FF game Tonberi Shadou 14:12, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
Generally speaking, Rikku and Yuna are pretty much the only Al Bhed who are remembered (and sometimes Brother), and even then, most people hate on Rikku almost as much as they do on Vaan. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 15:26, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
Now that is an exaggeration. Rikku doesn't get half of the hate that I've seen toward Vaan, though Brother is more of a nuisance than Vaan and Rikku combined. Tonberi Shadou
I just thought it was obvious. If Vaan and Rikku were in the same fight, Vaan would have no chance of winning. Tonberi Shadou 17:27, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Hate Rikku! You big meanies! I know Rikku's a good person. She's just Rikku. Seriously though, Rikku's awesome (easily top 10 FF character), and I remember Cid, and Brother, and Shinra (the Al Bhed), and Nhadala, and even Benzo. Remember Benzo? Then again, I really like FFX and even like X-2 (gasp), and I think the Al Bhed are pretty cool. They're essentially a race of scientists and engineers. She's a master-thief, a strong swimmer, a free-thinker, and if you fought robots in X and didn't use Rikku your game strategy is severely lacking. Also, in a world that generally despises her entire race, she's an energetic and cheerful person, which is quite nice especially juxtaposed with the stoic badasses of Auron, Lulu, and Kimahri. Yrl 08:24, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Hate Rikku? Rikku is one of the only Al Bhed that isn't hated. Even though there is no use for rikku in X since robots can be easily destroyed with thunder .Tonberi II 18:26, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
Some people are scrooges with their MP. Also, I must admit that my main experience with Rikku haters was on BlueHighwind's X walkthrough. Sue me. Actually, don't, because I can't afford it. King NothingWhere's your crown? 12:59, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
And stealing Al Bhed potions from the robots in Bikanel around Home is helpful (1000 HP to each of the three active party members) since you don't have Yuna to heal the party. Why waste the MP when you can swap in Rikku, steal something potentially quite helpful, and not waste any MP? I can only see an upside. Yrl 07:45, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
And if you're NOT fighting robots? Mp is there for a reason. Kill the enemy before you have to heal. Tonberi
Rational: the lightning elemental summons that replaced Ramuh in their respective games, i had doubt's about suggesting this since i thought it might get nailed through the ground but anyway, heres the suggestion.
I don't think Zell or Wakka was all that annoying. In fact both of which are in my main party. So I'm going to vote against this one. Sorry. Zeypher 10:09, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
Wakka wasn't usually in my main party, but I did use him now and then. In VIII, my main party was usually Squall and Rinoa, and then the third spot was Irvine, or if he was unavailable, Zell. Not quite as awesome as the sharpshooter, but he wasn't that bad. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:30, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
Most annoying,? And you left out Vaan, and Edward?Tonberi Shadou 18:17, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
Even though Auron's already won. Tonberi Shadou 14:02, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
This is quite possibly the greatest idea ever! Hilariously huge flamewar commence! Moocowisi 22:44, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I'm not sure who would win. Banishing Blade, or Sin Harvest Angel (also called "Descend Heartless Angel")? Shooting Star, or Octoslash? Crushing power, or awe-inspiring precision? King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:42, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
Rational: Both of these teens seem hell-bent on revenge against an older male member for quite sometime. That is until they find that the oppressing armies were the ones responsible for those closest to the boys, who just want their lives back.
Rational: One manipulated others for his own gain. One was manipulated by others but gained his own power. Will the Holy Knight best the Riskbreaker? Or will the top Riskbreaker from the VKP continue to beat the odds?
Suggestor:HereticRamza 00:57, May 13, 2010 (UTC)HereticRamza
I know they don't have much in common, but they're kinda similar in the fact that Vivi is a black mage and Auron was dead which made them different from their party, i basically wanted to see if we matched them up who would win, because they waste whoever they've gone up against in past dragon's neck colosseum and a match up with vivi and zidane didn't seem like the best cuz they're from the same game.
An interesting idea, but their fighting styles are so completely different that there's no real way to tell who could win. King NothingSpeak now, vermin! 11:37, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
As much as I want to see it, it's not easy to get a fight like this into the DNC because they are so different. Auron vs. Zidane might work though ,since their styles of fighting are closer to each other than Vivi's. plus, Vivi Always wins, there's no point in doing this. Tonberi Shadou 13:55, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
They're too different. Yrl 08:32, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Well I thought since Vivi faced both Tifa and Cain, with nothing in common other than all characters being popular, so he could face off with Auron (who also always wins in DNC) and i tried finding a similarity for them kinda like the leon and lightning hair thing :P. But if that doesn't work, the Auron v. Zidane could be given a try. [[user:gamerguy50]
Vivi faced them because that was the Magicite Madness tournament final, and he wasted them too. And have I mentioned, vivi does not lose.Tonberi Shadou 18:24, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
I still fail to see what makes Vivi so cool. Zidane was ten times cooler than Vivi. TheBlueDragoon01:53, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
I think that zidane is better now, but when I first had the game, I hated Zidane. Tonberi Shadou 13:34, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
I love Vivi and all but there right Zindane is soooooooo much better User:Kassandria
Both consist of four beings that represent fire, wind, water, and earth. Both have appeared in more than one game in the main series. Both were summons in Dissidia. Which group of Fiends do you think is best?
Rational: These two are recurring summons throughout the series. Leviathan first appeared in FFIII as a summon, while Alexander has been around since FFVI. Plus these two don't get nearly enough screen time. Before FFXIII, Alexander hadn't been summon able since FFVIII. Leviathan also was not summonable since FFIX. They don't get enough attention, so hopefully this fight will change that.
I've always wanted to suggest this match-up!! Now's my chance so here goes nothing! which one of these oddballs and comedic reliefs is the most badass?? Who will win in an all out battle to the death LoL. But most importantly, it's all about which of the two made you laugh so hard it's ridunculous HAHAHAHA p.s. hope this gets picked? ^^
Why not? Although I suspect it may descend into a "most hated", which is kind of not what the DNC is supposed to be for -- SorcerorNobody 21:09, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
Hasn't this been suggested before... Well i don't think its been done before so i'm on board. Bjarnster 21:19, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
Oh i forgot to vote for my own suggestion haha... Anyways I've always liked these two characters I don't get all the hate they're getting but i dont care. They deviate from the "too serious i'd like to kill myself moments of the game" which at times could be a lot. BboyMog 21:31, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
I've seen this suggested before, and I supported it. I hate Cait Sith, and I have a love/hate relationship with Quina. S/he's a Blue Mage, which means I have to like her. TheBlueDragoon22:22, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
I actually found CS to be a somewhat decent party member... certainly no match for the characters with multiple hit limits though, which is like, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE OTHER PARTY MEMBER. TARDISES 07:14, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
i found both CS and QQ to be dependable party members... When it comes to their background story, i feel like CS; being a major part of the storyline, is more interesting... QQ on the other hand has his/her blue magic extremely extremely handy everytime!! Feltor 00:23, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it hasn't, i scrolled down the list very slowly(twice) and i didn't see it, you may be referring to Irvine v. Barret.BjarnsterEDIT: no wait i'm sorry, after looking at the list carefully one more time i noticed that it actually has been done, sorry for the inconvenience.
Could be pretty interesting to see this one, so I'm voting for it MirrorshardSceada 13:14, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
One of the only fights that are actually interesting in this giant list of uninteresting suggestions (really not trying to be offensive tho)... AND it's something from FFXIII. Lightning has only been in a few polls... and Fang has been in none. WTF. Jiswizzle5
I still fail to see why just about everyone gushes over Kain like he's God's gift to Video Games. He's okay but sheesh he's not that special. AnonyMan 13:02, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
but he's still more special than Fang or the other dragoons. Tonberi Shadou 13:43, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Richard is more special than he is. Not trying to make fun of him but even compared to other Dragoon-ish characters in the series Kain not the paragon of the style. AnonyMan 14:33, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Richard was a joke. What did he ever do? There are a lot of characters better than Kain in general, but What Dragoon is better than Kain? Tonberi Shadou 15:26, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Sacrificed himself to save the protagonists' asses, he's also more interesting the they are all the temps were. Freya is also a better Dragoon. Kain really just codified the classes aesthetics doesn't make him the best. AnonyMan 16:19, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
freya was the only other great dragoon. And about Richard, didn't 3 other temps do that.? Tonberi Shadou 17:20, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Freya was also the last character to actually be called a Dragoon. Cid Highwind, Kimahri and Fang just had Jump attacks. Doesn't make them Dragoons. TheBlueDragoon20:08, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Pfff!! Oh please, we all know Dart was the best Dragoon. JudgeBalthier 20:11, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Bartz and Faris both make better Dragoons than Kain could ever hope to be, 'nuff said.
I highly disagree with the above statement. May you be stabbed by the fork of an imp. TheBlueDragoon21:00, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
I've played IV and V, and every time, Bartz and Faris have been more powerful than Kain was. Granted, that's partially because of how I distrubute abilities and equipment in V (Dual-Wield, Mimic, Summon, etc.) King NothingWhere's your crown? 15:00, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
Instruments have harps (first appeared in FF4 to my knowledge) and bells (first appeared in FF5 to my knowledge). Forks are a weapon only used by 1 party member in FF9. and s/he isn't exactly the most popular... TARDISES 21:42, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
No prob Blue, this is a good fight. (I wish more people would vote for Kuja vs Mateus though, now THAT I wanna see!) SilverCrono 21:53, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
That would be interesting to see, although I can see it turning into a Dissidia discussion.. TheBlueDragoon22:47, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
You know Tard, you point is invalid. I never said they were recurring weapons. Yes, only Quina wields a fork. The rationale, stated above, was weird weaponry. So what if harps have been around since FFIII? (Get your damn facts straight before you reject.) And I specifically stated WHACKED with. How many harps in the main series were used as melee weapons? None. I was going for instruments as a class of weapons such as the bells, the violins and stuff like that from the FFTA series. So yeah, not to be an asshole, but get your facts straight before you call me out. TheBlueDragoon21:07, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Rationale: The legendary summon Bahamut and its different genetic strains. Who would take who in this fight of flares? (For those who don't know, Bahamut Variations are those like Neo Bahamut, Bahamut SIN, Dark Bahamut etc.)
Keep it to Bahamut and one of its variations.Tonberi Shadou 13:32, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
And even then, it would still be a landslide for Bahamut. Bjarnster 15:03, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
In theory at least, the Bahamut variations are intended to be improvements/upgrades on the original Bahamut. Not really fair to compare them. Although the vote above me seems to disagree strongly. Yrl 08:47, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
I don't know about anyone else, but both of these women belong in UFC, not in Final Fantasy. So this to me is a true battle, not a popularity contest. Who would win in a streetfight? I give it to Adel by a a hair due to the fact that Irga has the reach, but Adel is built like Tyson and if she connects, it's over. And she wins the manly contest as well. (It's the chest.) "Feel My Pain... Come Anima!" 04:43, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
Rational: The most notable lyrical love themes of Final Fantasy; evocative and heartrending on their own merit, irrespective of the fact that, when combined with scenes of Squall and Rinoa in space or Yuna singing on the airship, your controller probably broke from all those tears you were shedding on it. Unless I'm wrong, there hasn't been a music battle since week thirty-three, and some would argue that two pieces of music couldn't actually fight one another, but those people are cowards.
Rational: Two have big oversized swords (though one actually has the strength to wield it), both are insanely popular FF characters for whatever reasons, and yada yada yada (originally I was a complete asshole and insulted a lot of people and for that I'm sorry)
Anywhoo, Auron V Sephykins was doing well last time I checked, but we know Auron would win, Auron v Vivi was a GREAT suggestion but was found unfavourable.
This on the other hand would make Kefka proud as it should inspire enough hate to give us a much needed all out flame WAR!!! Yes, let the anarchy commence!!! Possibly two of FF's most remembered male characters, (not counting Kain) go head to head, who will win????
I'd rather stab my eye with a needle... 184.108.40.206 05:20, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
This is a good suggestion but I don't like how you suggested it. Insulting people is rude FinalFantasyAerith 11:24, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
Insults were not neccesary... But in all seriousness, this is a flame war. SilverCrono 14:09, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
You know, if you want people to vote FOR your suggestion, perhaps you shouldn't be rude and call them cowards. And as SC said, this fight will just be a flame war worse than Kefka versus Sephiroth. TheBlueDragoon16:20, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
The First "vote against" made me say ouch!! xD anyway, NO! BboyMog 16:34, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
You don't have to insult people just because they may not support your suggetion. they have their own reason, so you don't need to call them cowards or anything else.,Tonberi II 13:53, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
Is this your famous Tonberi's grudge attack!!!, Sorry about the insult :(
. This is a good idea. those comments weren't needed that's all and now It got rejected because of a single comment.Tonberi II 17:35, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
Yep, you were right Tonberi so regardless if any of you change your vote or not, I'll say sorry to Tonberi, Silver Crono, Blue Dragoon, Naruto Detective, FFAerith and the needle in the eye guy, as well as anybody else that I insulted I was being an asshole, yours faithfully King Auron
It obviously was not intentional, and i have supported this idea from the beginning. don't make a deal out of it, we all make mistakes sometimes. and those who speak of a flamewar should have seen the words FLAME WAR right in the rational
.Tonberi II 17:27, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
1. I did say that the fights would probably be different for each person. I also said that the Elder Wyrm would be more difficult. I'm not going to lie. That dragon was rather difficult, but the end result was rewarding. Becides, I heard that you don't even have to fight it, if you know where to go.Thunderbird30 14:41, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Rational: Ladies men. They both have silver tongues. A genome and a machinist king. Although Zidane actually succeeds in getting the girl, Edgar was a very memorable character. I also suggested this a long time ago.
The iconic piece that has become a video game legend, or the remix? One Winged Angel versus Advent Children's remix. Surprised to see this hasn't even been suggested. So, do we want to see which people TRULY prefer? Will the injured angel or the Christmas angel win? (If you get that joke; you can be pathetic with me!) So, shall we? Ya or nay? Did I put too many questions in here? Or am I just writing to make it look like a more complex fight?
As good as the actual theme for AC was and not the lyrics, i dont think it stands a chance. I liked that they tried to put a little metalish backround into it but the original was just better and more memorable. Bjarnster 17:56, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
Game fights aren't allowed. JohnnyC 03:34, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
even if they were allowed, this is not good idea, because NTSC version of anthology was FFV and FFVI, and PAL version was FFIV and FFV, which would make many people confused MMLNメーマウリアン 06:29, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Really PAL version is different from NTSC... didn't know that. But yea, no to this one. Zeypher 12:17, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
Rational: I know neither of these have anything to do with Final Fantasy, but they are (to the best of my knowledge) the two longest-running Fin-Fics on this Wiki. I figure this will only get rejected, but it is here nonetheless.
For the purpose of argument, I'm an author myself, and my best stories have won Story of the Year twice from various people hosting various competitions. As a fellow writer, this makes me smile. TheBlueDragoon02:59, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
As I am the suggestor i'm going to vote for. And answering o you JohnnyC that is exacly why I wanted to nominate someone from DoC, it don't get any respect as you said most of people think that play it is a bother.--Xabryn 15:10, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
Not really a good connection. Besides, not many people have bothered playing DoC.JohnnyC 03:26, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
.....Because DoC can be completed in two hours. Tonberi II 13:45, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
Since when the hell does Shelke use a gunblade? That's Weiss you're talkin' about. She fights with LIGHTSABERS, moron. Kudos for trying to get her into the DNC, though. King NothingWhere's your crown? 15:04, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
I don't get why people hate DoC, it isn't my fav game but it also isn't bad, I sure liked the story and the fact of Vincent being the main character, the gameplay not so much but it isn't that bad EDIT @MechaUltimaZero: And who said anything about Shelke using any gunblade? you're the one acting like a moron here, so read before saying crap--Xabryn 02:30, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
My sincere apologies. My browser is acting up, and at about this point down the page, it's showing both this and the rationale of another fight much higher up. Had I noticed that error sooner, I would have left out the Gunblade remark. Just for future reference, I did read before speaking, but my computer had me reading the wrong thing. Again, I apologize. I can be quite reasonable when the mood suits me. King NothingWhere's your crown? 13:05, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
I think the reason people hate DoC is because they never played it. The look at the title "Dirge of Cerberus" and think "that's an interesting title." Then they see "Final Fantasy VII" and they think "screw Cloud!" and dismiss it, without knowing Vincent is the main character this time. --220.127.116.11 13:25, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
I'm wondering, how much (if any) support this will get... Haven't seen neither Ozma nor Chronodia in the DNC yet, so I'm rather curious what you guys will say... MirrorshardSceada 18:26, June 3, 2010 (UTC)