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Gilgamesh vs. Sephiroth Edit

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You're supposed to put new suggestions at the bottom of the page. Jeppo (Talk) 00:44, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

You're also meant to sign your own posts. *sigh* Bangaa Red Mage 02:25, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

WHACK! Follow the damned rules, right there at the top of the page: DON'T PUT NEW SUGGESTIONS AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE! The.DreadnoughT fired this annoyance-seeking comment at 03:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Richard Highwind V Shadow Edit

On one hand you have Richard Highwind the original 

dark character to first be introduced and on the other there is Shadow who is one of the coolest characters in FF6, both have complicated pasts and both are shrouded in there own dark natures, both have complex ways of fighting styles. Oddly enough they have some resemblences to Batman?

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Tiamat vs. Bahamut Edit

Mega Flare vs. Dark Flare!!!

Support Edit

"#Rinoa leonheart 16:34, 20 June 2009 (UTC)" so cool!!!!!!!! o ya

Reject Edit

  1. Two reject reasons. First is...well, see the flame comment below? That's the first one. The second one: apparently its happened three times before, with Bahamut winning each time. As Bahamut always does, and as Bahamut certainly will if this happens again. The last time this was suggested can be found in DNC Suggestion Archives Number 14 (that box on the top right of the page.) The.DreadnoughT 13:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Bahamut will destroy Tiamat. Do we really need to say any more than that? TheBlueDragoon 23:19, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Everything is pretty much said up above be. Come on you have Tiamat and you have Bahamut, who has appeared in EVERY SINGLE FINAL FANTASY MAIN TITLE (except II and XII I believe) The beating would be so bad that Tiamat's name will be Mega-Flared out of existence! Xlatinsorax 12:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

The very first rule says, "Place new suggestions at the bottom of the page. If you place them at the top, they will be lost when we archive the page. You have been warned." The.DreadnoughT 02:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

You beat me to it Dreadnought. I was about to flame as well. TheBlueDragoon 04:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

<s> Shinryu vs. Yiazmat Edit

Two powerful dragon superbosses but which one is more powerful?  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 17:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

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  1. I don't know is this fight be done yet, but I think its good idea.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 17:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. Yiazmat needs to be in a match so I support this. Judge Balthier 15:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  3. Ok for me... -Alarielle- 18:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  4. A lot better than the one below. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:29, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  5. Two superbosses. Now this will be a fight. TheBlueDragoon 19:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  6. Two hyper dragon bosses. Support.

i like it so cool i like the idea ok --a17280fdec998b452275c942c7dfe2cb 21:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. this fight already done --Ltfabretti Dragoon 20:45, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Ouch!!! Judge Balthier 14:00, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Emerald, Ruby, Omega Weapon vs. Yiazmat Edit

This is the match that you have been waithing for! Superbosses vs. The Superboss to rule them all.

Support Edit

  1. This is it! Judge Balthier 15:41, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. Meh, why not.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 12:51, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. All three of those are not as bad as Yizamat. Exdeath64 05:34, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. ...I don't think so. Mr_Darkside 18:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. No ! -Alarielle- 18:45, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  3. I don't think 3 on 1 fights are allowed. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  4. Sorry man. Not happening. TheBlueDragoon 19:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. 3 for 1. No fair.
  6. I don't like the 3 to 1 element of it. Rivenous 02:10, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Ws!!!....Ok, Couldn't the weapons be represented as Ultima? IMO, this is very fair!

Ninja of Wind, of course three-on-one is allowed! How the hell else would anyone ever have taken Sephiroth down?

Excalibur vs. Masamune Edit

A fight between the two swords-of-awesome.

Support Edit

  1. I suggested this, so I might as well vote for it. The.Dreadnought 22:14, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. Supported for two reasons. One, I love both weapons. Two, you supported my fight. TheBlueDragoon 18:44, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. "Rinoa leonheart 16:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)" O YA
  4. The Man In The Black Cape 19:56, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
  5. Makes sense, you know? Yzz 02:45, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
  6. Two of the most famous swords in existence. Awesome! I love swords! XD SonofIvalice 04:19, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. What the HELL!! That is ripped off from my Excalibur v.s. Ultima Weapon suggestion above. Find something original to ask about. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 22:19, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. i don't think so.......please use your heads! can weapons fight? ....duh! and besides i don't want rip-offs, this was probably copied from - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- {{{1}}}'s battle! -anonymous

Comment Edit

Just want to say that, for all I care, you can consider the Masamune to be Sephiroth's (if you like,) one that you can get normally, one from a non-numbered game, or even Frog's Masamune from Chrono Trigger.

Ripped off? Damn! I thought this was original. I must have missed the "Excalibur vs Ultima Weapon" suggestion somehow. Sorry about that. (Seriously, I did not mean to rip off that fight.)

That's OK. Actually, I'm not sure if I'm the first one to suggest that either. There are several other weapon battles involving Excalibur or Masamune on this page, but I descided to make one for the two best swords in the series without including the best katana(Masamune). - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 02:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Sin vs. Vegnagun Edit

Bevelle's secret weapon dueling the secret weapon of Zanarkand (so to speak).

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  1. It would be epic... User:Sibyrihl 18:12, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. This would be epic! I like the concept of it. Judge Balthier 14:07, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
  3. This seems like a good matchup.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 01:25, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Final Cannon 06:05, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Rinoa leonheart 16:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)" go for it O YA
  6. Sounds cool.
  7. This would be a great fight Destriker73 06:20, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  8. It would be pretty asome the biggest bosses of FFX however I would have to go with Vegnagun on this one because he it was designed to destroy everything at once while Sin destroys things one at a time.-Mistbrawler101 July 22 09
  9. Why not? Mako Angel

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  1. Sin just fought, and I've rejected this already. ScatheMote 23:25, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. Already done.Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Theme of Love vs Eyes on Me Edit

A battle between two songs that symbolize the love between two main protaganists. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 23:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. - +DeadlySlashSword+
  2. -Alarielle- 19:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Eyes on me. Love it. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 01:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Okay Terra_Homing 11:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. Munk451 Yeah, this could be quite amusing.
  6. This is an interesting idea. I like it^^ Yzz 14:03, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
  7. I do find it very amusing to have songs about love fighting each other. MisfitAirship

Reject Edit

  1. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:09, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Exdeath64 05:30, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

1. What about "Suteki da ne?". I know that a lot of people hate the song (I hate it and love it at the same time), but wouldn't it make more sense to compare the two J-Pop love ballads (Suteki da ne? and Eyes on Me)? Violetmage 22:15, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

If you don't like Suteki Da Ne, you should probably listen to Kate Covington's arrange of the song on Youtube. -Alarielle- 22:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Try "Real Emotion" vs. "1000 words" next time.Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

I think "1000 Words" vs. "Eyes On Me" is a better fit. Both are about distant love and the desire for someone else to love one back.SonofIvalice 20:55, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Mako Technology vs MagiTek Edit

TECH FIGHT!

Support Edit

  1. Again, this is my suggestion, so I should probably support it. The.Dreadnought 01:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. Two processes of making super-soldiers. Might be interesting. It'll probably turn into SOLDIER vs Magitek Knights but I don't think they've been paired. AJ Werefang 04:15, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
  3. Go magitek! Judge Balthier 14:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
  4. Fine, fine, I get it. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
  5. Good one but I wished it was a SOLDIER vs Magitek knights like said by Werefang and also not be a Kefka vs Sephiroth fight.JudgeMasterKefk 21:15, 14 April 2009
  6. I was mindfucked and voted against. Now I think this could turn out pretty well. Zak Undersn 14:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
  7. Why have I not supported this already? This is brilliant! TheBlueDragoon 04:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
  8. I think mako will win, but why not? Final Cannon 06:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  9. I think it will be a pretty interesting fight. MisfitAirship

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  1. Very good idea, but sorry, this is gonna be VII vs VI. -Alarielle- 19:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. See above Theentertainer

Comments Edit

I will support it only if you can prove to me how these two can acctually fight. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 02:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I have no desire to either support or reject this. However, MakoTech IS really developed. It's used for the mako cannon, materia, to run vehicles, and actually only has a small role in SOLDIER production. The entire point of the Mako Reactors is that they provide power for Midgar. I don't know anything about magitek, & am not trying to say that it's underdevelped. I'm just saying that it's a false fact that mako technology was never expanded upon.Neo Bahamut 03:14, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree with you, NB, but I think Zak Undersen meant "plot development." (Although he'd still be wrong. Mako is explained to be the life-force in everybody, the reason why Materia allows people to use magic, (Materia being solidified Mako, and Mako containing the knowledge or whatever of the Ancients,) the stuff that powers Midgar, Junon Harbor, Kalm, Nibelheim, and presumably Costa del Sol, the Gold Saucer, Mideel, and those two settlements on the Northern Continent, neither of whose names I remember. It also happens to be a plot element when Cloud falls into the Lifestream, and also allows the whole "Cloud's Subconscious" area to happen, allows the Mako Cannon to work (in VII, technology is often part of the plot, it seems. When, that is, one can find what the plot is supposed to be, but this is common to FF games...) and is the thing that Sephiroth is trying to "near-fatally-wound the planet" with Meteor in order to merge himself with. It also helped Holy, (which Aeris would otherwise have died to cast, then failed epically because it failed) to stop Meteor, but only after it destroyed Midgar first. ) The.DreadnoughT 22:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Umm...They can be used on the soldiers? There. Judge Balthier 14:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow, you said a mouthfull. I only have 2 things to add: 1, it taught Sephiroth about Jenova, and 2, Aerith guided it to repel Meteor. The Lifestream, that is. And this is, of course, ignoring any further developments made in the Compilation.Neo Bahamut 23:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
A) You're wrong; Seeing the stuff inside the Nibelheim Mako Reactor, being injected with Jenova cells (which share information or some shit like that) and reading about it taught Sephiroth about Jenova. B) I did mention that, it's repetition, not addition. And Aerith didn't guide it; Aeris may or may not have guided it; all we actually know is that a slightly-translucent Aeris-face opens its eyes in the FFVII ending cinematic, and we are then left wondering, WHAT THE F--- IS HAPPENING, a question all the spinoffs completely fail to answer, I understand. C) The what-i-lation? Oh, the "mutiliation." Right. Well, Ninja of Wind said most of what I had on my mind about it, but did it a long time ago, in a suggestion far, far above (I think) talking at Master Conjurer about a link called "this crap." The.DreadnoughT 02:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
No, I'm not wrong. Sephiroth didn't know how to control Jenova cells until he fell into the Lifestream. Additionally, that's when he found out the TRUTH about Jenova. Until then, he'd just thought she was a Cetra. And Aerith did guide it. If that wasn't enough of a clue, it's sort of in the Ultimania Omega guide. There's a difference between "completely failing to answer" a question and when the aaudience is just genuinely not looking for an answer Especially...y'know...considering that Maiden Who Travels the Planet is considered part of the Compilation...which is not, by the way, a mutilation. There is nothing about the games that damages the plot of the original in any way. The only thing that even comes close is the emphesis on technology, which as you pointed out, was a pretty common theme in the original, anyway.Neo Bahamut 02:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Aren't you the one who's supposed to go after bad grammar? Yet you spell "audience" with two "a"'s. Interesting.... Fine, you can have the points about Jenova and what happens to Aeris; the Lifestream, as far as I can tell, guides itself (maybe Aeris helped it by casting Holy, but the lifestream might have noticed the Planet being on the verge of destruction.) And I more meant it mutilated the game itself the way Whiny Dumbshit mutilated FFVI; greatness is damaged by association with crap. The.DreadnoughT 21:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I don't go after obvious typos. I edit a lot, but considering how often this page freezes for me, if I see a typo after I've already exited the editing window, I'm probably just going to leave it there, if it's not too hard to understand what I mean. And as for the Lifestream guiding itself, the exact mechanisms that move the Lifestream, besides responding to injury, are left unexplained. However, if the Lifestream could just leave the planet at its own free will, that would completely void the need for the Weapons or Holy. A point they keep trying to make is that the Lifestream is not an omniscient, omnipotent force. It was easily tricked by Hojo, and it doesn't exactly steer itself away from the mako reactors, until they're finally shut off...and even that may have been because of Sephiroth, rather than the Lifestream itself. Despite its healing powers being held back, it's still flowing to the Northern Crater, only to be used by Sephiroth. In Maiden Who Travels the Planet, it communicates with Aerith mostly with vague ideas, rather than direct, thought-out answers coming from a disembodied, godlike voice. It's all over the place, really: The Lifestream is a barely-conscious entity. And I know what you meant by "mutilating" the game. I've seen much worse. (Ivalice Alliance.) I don't see anything wrong with the new additions, besides being unable to live up to the expectations of what is, in my opinion, the best the series has to offer, and the best RPG I've ever played. How, exactly, is it fair of me to expect the Compilation to meet or exceed what I thought of VII? Would I even really WANT that?Neo Bahamut 00:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
1) You could use the Mako Cannon/Sister Ray to blow a bunch of MagiTek armor or MagiTek knights to bits. 2) You could use MagiTek armor, or MT Knights, to go kill all the Shinra security around a Mako Reactor and blow it up. 3) Mako energy can be used to power things like factories, producing weapons and stuff, while MagiTek can be used to make weapons and stuff (like MagiTek Armor suits) work. You get the idea yet? In case not, 4) Early experiments with the use of both Mako and Jenova cells resulted in a certain Masamune-wielding, Nibelhiem-burning villain, while early experiments in the use of MagiTek on humans resulted in an insane, laughing villain named Kefka. (Not that this is a Kefka-vs-Sephiroth fight; it isn't supposed to be. And I don't want it to be, 'cause then I wouldn't be able to vote; I'd call that a tie.)The.Dreadnought 21:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I meant more developement as a war-tech. It powers Midgar, yeah, but Magitech is a tech developed more specifically for war (as long as I know, I didn't end FFVI), and the only war uses that include mako technology (I did not include materia because it's more of a "natural phenomenon", but now I realise it should be included) are Materia, SOLDIER and the bigass Sister Ray (an one-shot cannon that almost destroys the city and infrastructure it is built into). Mako is more like electricity in real world with some combat-specific uses, while Magitech is more focused on war (Magitech armors, Celes, etc...). But I'm probably wrong, as I stated: I didn't end FFVI and don't know all the uses of Magitech. Zak Undersn 14:32, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I really don't see the point here...even if you were right, technology is usually not just for one purpose.Neo Bahamut 02:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, I just think that they should have more in common to have a fight or, at least, have a similar developement in similar fields. If they are for completely different purposes I see no reason to make them fight, it's just like a game between a basketball team and a soccer one. Or have an argument to see what's better: A telephone or a microwave. Zak Undersn 15:27, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
As for your example, that's something of my point: Both of those technologies were originally developed for the army, but also ended up having civilian uses. Also, I think the analogy is bad. Mako tech did have a lot of wartime uses, and from what I hear, magicite and materia were remarkably similar. Really, I still don't see the point.Neo Bahamut 23:56, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Maybe I just had a very unconvenient lapsus, as I stop and think it I see more points in common between them and see no point on saying they're unrelated. I think I'll change my vote when I arrive home. Zak Undersn 11:46, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
By the way, I vote for the microwave. Telephones can't reheat pizza. The.DreadnoughT 21:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Yuck, reheated pizza is gross.Neo Bahamut 00:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah...and, shit, I just realized I can order fresh pizza with the phone....but, then again, the phone can't cook food. Or be used to start minor electrical shorts in tinfoil. (Without disassembling the cable.)

Oh, and electricity also has combat uses; you need only two words: Tesla Coil. (If you don't play C&C, that's why they're linked.) The.DreadnoughT 21:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Rydia vs. Quistis Trepe Edit

Two hot girls with whips.

Support Edit

  1. I suggested it User:Last tsurugi
  2. yes - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
  3. Good idea. Rydiaofmist
  4. You get my vote. Judge Balthier 14:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. Probably a landslide for Rydia, but I'm in anyway.
  6. Rydia would (probably) own, but it would be a pretty interesting battle. -Alarielle- 19:48, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
  7. Sure. ~ Anonymous
  8. My name is Drake Clawfang, and I approve this message. Drake Clawfang 04:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
  9. Definately!!Xlatinsorax 03:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  10. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  11. prepare to get whipped.JudgeMasterKefka 14:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
  12. Whoop. Terra_Homing 11:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
  13. I think this is a great idea Bruntie2 17:58, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Hell, this is way too late, but I'm gonna reject anyway. The.DreadnoughT 01:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Sign your posts so I can know who the fucking pervert is!!! FUCK NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Fighters vs. Mages Edit

At the beginning of any game with jobs, you have to choose wheather to use magic or weapons as your main form of attack. which one is preferred?(by "Fighters" i mean weapon users)

Support Edit

  1. It's mine. User:Last tsurugi
  2. yes - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
  3. yup Rydiaofmist
  4. OK. -Alarielle- 19:49, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. It's cool. AnonyMan
  6. This sounds great! I'm just hoping this doesn't turn into something like Cloud and Squall vs. Vivi and Rosa. If its a battle of the classes, I'm all for it! Xlatinsorax 22:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  7. Cool! Kuzlalala 10:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

FF VI vs. FF VII Edit

Support Edit

  1. The 2 games with the biggest fanbases here. 1stclasswarrior 21:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Read the rules - No game fights allowed. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 01:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. HADOKEN! ScatheMote 22:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Ultima vs. Zodiark Edit

The High Seraph vs. The Keeper of Precepts, Holy vs. Dark, Perfect vs. Too Powerful. Judge Balthier 14:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. I don't know if this was already done or not. Judge Balthier 14:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Why not ? -Alarielle- 19:50, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. I'm interested. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 01:19, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. The Fallen Angel and Rebel Esper against the Esper who even the gods feared would grow too powerful. Sounds like an interesting battle. ~ Anonymous
  5. Two summons from XII. This is so original it just might work. Werefang 18:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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Comment Edit

Sephiroth vs Genesis Edit

The two one-winged angels duking it out. Project S against Project G. What more could you ask for?

Support Edit

  1. I would love to see this because Genesis is my personal favorite FF character ever. But I would only want a full powered Genesis to fight him not a weakened one like in Crisis Core. And although Sephiroth looked like he wasn't breaking sweat always looks like that in a fight. And with Genesis being weakened he still went toe to toe with him. 74.193.194.64 07:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. "Rinoa leonheart 16:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)"so cool go genesis O YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  1. Although I'm dying to see a battle involving Genesis, the truth is that Sephiroth would dominate. ~ Anonymous
  2. Queit true anonymous, Genesis will truely get caned by Sephiroth.Sephiroth has the theme song, the long sword and is in Dissidia no contest all out to Sephiroth, although i like Genesis reciting LOVELESS. but Go Sephiroth!!! Zodiarkeclipse1234567
  3. Although I like both of these characters, Sephiroth has more fans and would never lose. And Progect G is named after Angeal's mother, not Genesis. Werefang 18:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Sephiroth has already been clearly shown able to take on both Angeal AND Genesis, at the same time, without breaking a sweat. Genesis on his own is bound to get sliced into so many pieces we won't even bother counting. (SOLDIER1stClass)
  5. I thought I had voted on this. People don't like Genesis. Is a bad character, and Sephiroth is Sephiroth. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 01:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  6. GTFO of my FFVII, Genesis. Zak Undersn 20:03, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
  7. It would be a runaway landslide in favor of Sephiroth. Sorry, but no.
  8. What more could I ask for? Not much, except Sephiroth vs Kefka, which is supposedly not allowed or something. (as though that battle would work. There'd probably be so much awesome in the same place that the whole universe would implode.) The.DreadnoughT 03:26, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
  9. Don't get me wrong, I kinda like Genesis, but I'm afraid, as my predecessors have said, he'll get completely owned. The Man In The Black Cape 20:04, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
  10. Defiantly agree, it's only a good fight when there's contest. Otherwise it's hardly a fight, really just instant KO, and that's no fun. MisfitAirship

Comment Edit

To Anonymous: Genesis was at peak physical condition when he fought Sephiroth. The degredation started AFTER he was wounded. He lost to Zack, and Zack couldn't even TOUCH Sephiroth. The problems with this fight are much too numerous to approve it. There is no comparison between the combatants, the game itself proves that Sephiroth would win, it would be a landslide for him because he's much more liked, and just--no. I don't see why this fight wasn't archived, come to think of it. It had zero support before the archive, and it just now got 1 anonymous vote which isn't even signed properly. Even as a somewhat manic FFVII fan, I can see that this fight is stupid, pointless, and a waste of everyone's time, and therefore should not be approved. (No offense to whoever suggested it.)Neo Bahamut 05:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

To poster above: It is never stated that he was in "peak physical condition" he may have already been degrading and the wound merely speed up the degrading, and there was no clear cut winner. And Zack beat Genesis AFTER Zack was experimented on with Jenova cells, while Zack was beaten by Sephiroth BEFORE said experiments occurred.

What's with this idea that everything needs to be flatly stated? Genesis was being tossed around like a rag doll. None of his attacks affected Sephiroth, but he was clearly fighting with all his strength. If the fight continued, Genesis would have died. And I know he's at peak physical condition because he fights the same way he does after the degredation is reversed. Plus, you know, there were no signs of him weakening at the time. Even if he was already going through the degredation process, it clearly wasn't enough to hinder his performance to the point where he could have beaten Sephiroth before, but not afterwards. Not only that, there's really no point in even counting the experiments done to Zack. It's implied at one point that it hiders his performance, that it makes him super strong at other times, and in any case, the same procedure was done to Cloud, & Cloud only manages to beat Sephiroth because Sephiroth's too busy gloating to just kill him. The fact that Zack was in SOLDIER is meaningless, as it's obvious by Cloud's performance in AC that he's worked his way up to being just as tough as Zack was, perhaps even tougher.Neo Bahamut 05:56, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Something both you idiots missed is that all of this was before Genises recieved the gift of the goddes and arguably could be just as if not more powerful than Sephiroth.The6thangel

Ifrit vs Belias Edit

A clash of the fire Summons. Blackwing11 20:41, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

1. I would Like to see this to see who would be the better...fire demon thing. ~ Anonymous "#Rinoa leonheart 16:45, 20 June 2009 (UTC)" cool O YA

Reject Edit

  1. They're too similar for this fight to be any good. Sorry. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 01:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. I'm pretty sure that Ifrit would own. ~ Anonymous
  3. This match would be a landslide. Judge Balthier 21:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Belias doesn't stand a chance, Ifrit is a major summon. Instant KO. MisfitAirship

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The Extreme vs Kurayaminokumo Edit

Two final boss song belong to two Villainess.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 16:24, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. I just want The Extreme in one fight its one my favorite songs and there needs to be a song fight.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 16:24, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Definitly THE EXTREME Zodiarkeclipse1234567
  3. The Extreme. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 01:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Very interesting choice. -Alarielle- 23:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Hmm, classic, awesome final battle music vs more modern, awesome final battle music. I must say I like this one. MisfitAirship

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Toad vs Mini Edit

If you were to have either these cast on you, which would you rather it was??? SonOfAJenova 18:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. My idea... SonOfAJenova 18:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Ah, why not? --JohnnyC 00:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:33, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Final Cannon 06:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Why not? I think it's a passable idea of which would you rather if you had to. MisfitAirship

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  1. Hmmmm Neither Mr_Darkside
  2. Status effect spells suck no matter what they do. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:23, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Both. If I have to get turned into a frog, at least then I won't be noticed, and if I get shrunken, then at least I won't be recognizable. But Ninja of Wind is right: status effect spells suck. The.DreadnoughT 03:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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Garland v.s. Emperor Mateus Edit

The final bosses of FFI and FFII, Chaos and the Emperor of Hell, both have something in common. Before the glory days of final bossdom, they were just getting their start as the easiest bosses of the game. So who would win in a fight between these wimps? - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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  1. Mine - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Interesting:) Judge Balthier 17:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Yes, I would like to see who would win this fight. Sibyrihl 8:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yeah, I approve this. Pime Taradox vs Death, Disgregation & Resurrection. Who would win? Zak Undersn 19:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. I like them both :) Hamfruitcake 09 21:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

You know something about Time Paradoxes and death? No? Go play Metal Gear Solid 3. Let Snake die. The screen that says "Snake Is Dead." Sit there for a while. Wait. See the letters morph? When you get a total game over (ie, if you just used the Fake Death Pill, Snake has now really died) it has changed to say "Time Paradox!" The.DreadnoughT 03:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Penelo vs Rikku Edit

They're both blonde. They're both spunky. And they both have sibling-like bonds with the main character.

Support Edit

  1. It's my idea, so, um, yeah, I support it. ~ Anonymous
  2. Seeing as how Rikku owns at being Spunky and how Penelo has no relevance to the story nor is Spunky, I would reject this but, Rikku is one of my favorite characters from FFX. Judge Balthier 17:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Penelo is on the bearable and tolerable side of the "Spunky Girl" spectrum unlike Rikku and the like who are generally just annoying and stupid. A nice twist.
  4. Penelo's kinda cute IMHO... Rikku is also cute... They might be irritating, but they made some memorable lines ya know. That's why I'm supporting this fight.Devil Breaker 04:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. Kuzlalala Squee! 05:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  6. Munk451 - Of course this would be a good idea! Two of the most "Useless" Characters to the story, In My own opinion. This could be really nice to see how it could go.
  7. I love both characters so I would love this BoAKaNRikkusmallsig 02:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  8. Rikku... Penelo... Heaven. Two of my fave "Spunky Girls." It probably won't make it into the DNC, but I support it anyway. TheBlueDragoon 04:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
  9. I am for this fight. Rikku would win of course, but Penelo is also good. in my expert proffesional opinion they are both blondes and both girls... so they are both AWESOME! (Rikku is better though)
  10. Simply so I can take the shit out of Penelo. Finally, bitch, YOU WILL KNOW MY WRATH!!! The Man In The Black Cape 20:09, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

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  1. Penelo and Rikku walk into a bar. The bar explodes from the inabillity to withstand that amount of pure annoyance. I would hate to see what would happen if Penelo and Rikku walk into the DNC. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 17:07, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 03:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Ninja of Wind said it all. The.DreadnoughT 21:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Penelo has no purpose or power, Rikku is less powerful, it's a case of two blondes scrabbling, not really a fight. Hamfruitcake 09 21:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Already done!!!Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

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Aw, Cmon! Rikku's not that annoying. -.- "That?" Rikku is awesome. I'm sorry, people. ~~ Auron

A character can be "awesome" AND annoying at the same time. She breaks the fourth wall (if watch carefully, she seems to be listening to the battle music) but she's still annoying. "Stop beating up the machina you don't know I'm in, meanie;" "did you hit your head...?" (immediately after seeing Tidus get knocked over;) On the other hand, though...regardless of how annoying Rikku is or is not, even just Penelo alone walking into a bar would make it explode from inability to withstand that much pure annoyance. The.DreadnoughT 22:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Griever vs. Fenrir Edit

Two symbols that represent different attributes of a person. The Lone Wolf vs. The Courageous Lion. Loneliness & Guilt vs. Strength & Vigilance. Judge Balthier 17:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. These symbols do Not represent the people on which they are worn, but the characteristics of a person. Judge Balthier 17:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. I'll support this but will others think of this as a VII vs. VIII fight?  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 20:48, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. The Badass Monkey Beats both animals' asses. Anony
  4. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. Rinoa leonheart 11:11, 25 August 2009 (UTC)good idia
  6. A Really good Idea. I approve --CLOUD 17:30, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
  7. An excellent idea with good meaning and reasoning behind it, well done! MisfitAirship
  8. I approve.FaythOfFenrir 03:24, October 14, 2009 (UTC)
  9. YES! Because Griever is Awesome! XD SonofIvalice 03:46, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

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Comment Edit

THIS IS NOT A FFVII vs. FFVIII match. It's a match between two MOTIFS THAT SYMBOLIZE THE CHARACTERISTICS IN A PERSON!!! NOT 1 SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL!!!....Sorry about that. I have to get this point across as quickly as possible. ^ ^ Judge Balthier 21:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Its ok I suggest a very similar fight up above. The Ultima Weapon vs. Lion Heart and made a point that is not a VII vs VIII fight.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 21:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Like it's not going to be taken that way anyway. But for precising it in the comment, I won't reject this. Because you intentions are pure. -Alarielle- 23:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, this is about characteristics? And here I was hoping for a showdown between a motorcycle and a gigantic flying lion summon. *sulk* --Saethori 06:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Paintbrushes vs. Megaphones Edit

Final Fantasy has had its fair share of... er "imaginative" weapons, but Relm's use a paintbrush in battle and Cait Sith's preferred choice of a megaphone have got to be among the most bizarre. But which is the craziest?

Support Edit

  1. I kind of like it. It's pretty original. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 01:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Creative = Vote. The.Dreadnought 20:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Great idea! --JohnnyC 04:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Kuzlalala 06:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  6. Different, so I like it. Terra_Homing 17:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
  7. Win. I hope this gets picked for next week's fight. TheBlueDragoon 19:21, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
  8. It's a unique idea :) Hamfruitcake 09 21:04, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  9. I agree with everyone who supports, it's very original. MisfitAirship
  10. Violetmage♥23:13, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

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I'm not voting on this since it was my idea, but I don't think we ever had a "weird weapon" battle so I've picked out two of the strangest weapons. You can also have Cards or Dictionaries if you don't like these. Jeppo 01:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

The Bell's got both weapons beat as far as Bizarre go. AnonyMan

Bells are a bizarre choice of weapon, but really weird thing is that instead of using their superpowered terrain effects that cost no MP or have any other limitation, geomancers choose to attack with these bells. It gets even weirder from there. At least in FF3, the weakest bells you can get are the strongest weapons at that point in the game. They would beat paintbrushes and megaphones hands down. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 01:16, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Also, "Bells" are not really that much of a unique weapon class; though TA2 disagrees with me, a "bell" is a type of percussion-based musical instrument, like drums. Also, the Megaphone, while creative as a weapon, is possible (and I mean other than by smacking people with it.) There are things called "resonant frequencies," and sound, combined with light, is used in many non-lethal weapon systems. Similarly, if the target is ugly enough (ie, Ultros) a painting of it is an effective weapon (though a mirror might be faster, Ultros would have broken one.) Beyond hitting people with a bell, (which could hurt, though it likely wouldn't hurt much if you can hold the bell with your hands,) I can't figure out how a bell is actually a weapon. So for "bizarre," maybe, but "creative" or "imaginative," no. The.Dreadnought just wanted to throw that out there, at 23:00, 12 April 2009 (UTC).
From what I can gather from FFVII, Cait Sith uses its megaphone to tell the Mog underneath to run to the target and smack it on its head, and better megaphones makes the mog hit harder, somehow. While Bells are creative, I've only seen them used as a normal weapon i.e. bonk the enemies on the head with it. I don't know about the Paintbrush, because I have to admit I don't have the game, but whoever this Relm is, she must be mad going into battle armed with nothing more that a small wooden stick with bristles at one end! Jeppo 02:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
The point holds. I didn't specify Cait Sith's megaphone. I can use a megaphone as a weapon too. By smacking you in the head with it. So can anyone with really annoying music, but that is a different way to do so. As for Relm, well, the "Sketch" command is what the Paintbrush is really for, she's better off in the Back Row with some big Espers and magic, and she can (and should) have a Rod equipped, because they're better for stats. Also, Relm happens to be a 10-year-old girl, so, seeing as how little kids aren't likely to be lifting the Buster Sword or anything like that... And you don't really need the game. Click this link. The.DreadnoughT 03:32, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I am surprised no one has said anything about the stupid fork that Quina uses. ScatheMote 22:41, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Forks can impail people. Have you ever tried impailing someone with a paintbrush? No? Didn't think so. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 18:15, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Not to mention that in MGS3, Snake uses a fork to, among other things, fight off an undead, invincible boss who sends the people he's killed after him, also as undead, invincible annoyances. Forks are good weapons; the ancient world knew that when they came up with tridents (which are super-sized forks on a spear shaft.) So did Snake when he got captured, and they took away his weapons and Survival Knife. He used the fork for eating, too (I think he cleaned it first...) The.DreadnoughT 22:34, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

I just found out that Red XIII uses hairpins! That beats Cait Sith's megaphone by a mile in wierd weaponry. I also found out that if it is equipped with several other things like materia or accessories, he can do 9999 damage multiple times with his limit breaks! - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 02:13, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Umm...essentially, he does use hair ornaments. But they're usually some kind of blade (he has no hands), and he really uses his fangs more. The weapon basically gives him something to put materia on, and to modify his attack attribute. Also, the way FFVII's equipment system works, you can only put one accessory on, and most materia will actually decrease your attack stat. In any case, all characters can do 9999 damage multiple times with limit breaks. Sorry to spoil your revelation.Neo Bahamut 02:27, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
So very true. (Omnislash, Catastrophe, Highwind, Cosmo Memory, All of Tifa's limits together (Final Heaven only hits once.) ) But also false. All Creation only hits once, but hits everything at once and ignores split damage. Actually, the only limit break Yuffie has that hits multiple times is whatever the Level 1 one was called. (She throws the Shuriken, runs up, catches it, and hits the enemy a second time, from what I can tell.) Cait Sith's limit break only hits once, and the second one is morphing, which, like Vincent with Chaos, isn't really an attack. And Aeris' ultimate limit break does something like make you invincible for a while; also not an attack (This is the only Limit I never got, so I don't remember its effects well.) The.DreadnoughT 00:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Cait Sith has the random summon thing, and yeah, Aerith had no attacking limit breaks. But it's the principle that's important. Great Gospel, a truly awesome Limit Break that I wish they'd let you use for a LITTLE bit longer heals all of your wounds, revives any fallen party members, restores any negative status effects, and makes everyone temporarily invincible. Then you have Fury Brand, which fills everyone else's limit guages, Seal Evil (which even works on most bosses!), and the multitude of healing Limit Breaks. Essentially, you could just let her get her ass handed to her, & save her MP for attacks. A pox on anyone who calls Aerith useless!Neo Bahamut 00:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Neo Bahamut, 1) I do not call Aeris useless, I call her "Aeris" 2)those limit breaks, not materia, are why Aeris is a white mage, despite you saying otherwise back in the last DNC fight's comments. Now go play VI, its a better use of your time than arguing with me. The.DreadnoughT 00:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I didn't say you did, and you can call her whatever you want. And technically speaking, she's a mage in general. Although her limit breaks lean towards white magic, that isn't all she's confined to.Neo Bahamut 02:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Okay, Neo Bahamut...Obviously you have totally failed to grasp what I've spent a week and a half trying to tell you, so I'll put it out here in plain, no-analysis-needed (Your userpage, I checked it an hour ago, still says "en-5") english: IGNORE THE FOOKING MATERIA. And I will mention that it was only her Level 3/Level 4 Limit Breaks that I never got; Seal Evil blows, because it may work on bosses, but doesn't seem to stop any of them from using magic in the PC version; Also, if you wish my vote to stay in "support," you will a) stop spelling it "Aertih," you will spell it "AERIS" with a terminal S, or B) go vote in favor of something I suggested.
Ugh...I did not "fail" to grasp it. You make the classic mistake of assuming that, because I'm not arguing on your terms, I'm failing to get your point. I get it. You are simply wrong. The materia IS the game's system. This makes her a competent white mage, black mage, and summoner. The way her stats are configured prevents her from being a fighter. She is predominanantly a white mage in terms of limit breaks...that's about it. None of these factors can be ignored in the decision of what class she is. I use a single definition. I don't say, "The character is using X weapon so they must be Y" in one instance, and then go by the Limit Breaks the next. And I thought you were joking earlier, which is why I let it go, but dude, seriously, get over yourself. Am I demanding that you call her Aerith? No, you can use whatever pronunciating you want. I, for one, prefer to stick with the official. And is it the Limit Break's fault your game is glitched? Not really. And, lastly, while I appreciate the support, I'm not being bribed. Why bother? The fight won't get approved, anyway.Neo Bahamut 03:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Ok. Keep the vote you don't care about; neither do I. (I was talking about YOUR suggestion, NB- "Yuna vs. Aeris" This fight has my support unconditionally.) Now have you played VI yet? No? That's why you don't get my point about the fooking Materia! Everybody in VI can use any "magic" command in VI. While this makes distinction between red, black, and white mages impossible, we still know Strago is a blue mage. We still know Shadow's a ninja. We still know Captain Whiny Dumbshit is a samurai, though he insults that job class, and the weapons he uses, just by existing. Locke is still a [kickass] thief. Gau is still a combination morphist/beserker (and that combination really doesn't work very well- like chocolate on pizza.) Edgar is still a dragoon/(in a sense) Gadgeteer (the Tools.) Umaro is still a Piece Of Shit. Gogo is still a Mime (but that doesn't count, because Umaro's only command is Mimic; he can't even have Espers equipped, just like Umaro.) Sabin is still a Monk. This isn't FFTA where a person basically has two jobs, because they can have all the abilities for that race, then have two sets of them at a time; someone who is a Soldier wirh Black Magic secondary abilities in FFTA is a "soldier/black mage" the wey I see it. So maybe we can just consider everyone in VI and VII to be a "whatever/Everything Mage." But the first part is determined by everything BUT the materia. Cloud is a SOLDIER (if you play Tactics) or a semi-intelligent human, with a badly messed up memory and a cool sword (otherwise.) Tifa is a monk. Barret is...uh, what the hell IS Barret? He's not quite a gunner... Vincent, a gunner. Yuffie is a Ninja. Aeris is a White Mage. Cid is a Dragoon. But does this argument belong here? I say it belongs where it started, but that fight ended... Because I'm psychic (or Neo Bahamut is really, really, really predictable...) I know you're going to respond anyway, so you come up with where this needs to go. The.DreadnoughT 22:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I know you were talking about the Yuna vs. Aerith fight, which only proves my point that you are not reading these posts properly. I've read somewhere that Barret is a ranger. I'm not sure, either. And I hardly see how my not playing VI makes me unable to see your point about the "fooking materia." You think that, because it is equippable, it does not reflect the character's natural abilities, & there is no real distinction between white black magic, & blah, blah, blah. But please, READ WHAT I AM SAYING. I've mentioned the stat configurations over and over again. THAT is what really counts as far as "fighter/mage" goes. Getting into specifics, obviously, Tifa is a monk if she attacks. If she attacks and does like 200 damage, then uses magic and does 2000...you get my point. Basically, it boils down to them being a monk, or a dragoon, or whatever if their stats aim towards physical abilities, but a general mage if not. And you can't tell me I'm "wrong" because this is a compltely arbitrary distinction--THERE ARE NO CLASSES IN FFVII! Decide what everyone is however you want, I don't care, but what is the point in fighting about it when there isn't even a job system in place?Neo Bahamut 00:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually, there are. Just not mentioned or changeable in-game. Sephiroth (which is who this essentially started over) is listed by the manual as having the job "Top Ranking SOLDIER Officer." (As though that meant something that we can define AND agree on.) Then again, it says Aeris is a Flower Merchant, not the white mage we all know she is. It also says Sephiroth's weapon is a "Long Sword," which, while more helpfully descriptive than his job (if you consider a seven-foot-not-accounting-for-blade-curvature katana 'long') we also all know Sephiroth only has one weapon: The (with a capital T, that's not an error) Masamune. Screw Chrono Trigger's lame Shit-A-Mune; it blows next to this (splitting a cliff in two be damned. It never permanently killed a playable character.) The.DreadnoughT 00:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh my God, yes. I should totally describe them in those terms just to avoid another argument like this. The Masamune is 6'6". <_< Anyway, I rather like KH2's interpretation of Sephiroth's attitude regarding swords: He just HAS to have the one that's the most special. And, uhh, could you do me a favor & respond in my talk page if you have something to say to this? My computer gets really, REALLY slow when I try to type anything on this page....Neo Bahamut 02:08, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Kuja vs. Genesis Edit

The two poets of Final Fantasy serenade their way against each other! Who will it be? The failed JENOVA Project or the failed Genome? Xlatinsorax 19:07, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. I'm in, though I think I might know what the outcome will be. Jeppo 18:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. I support, no matter what they say! Cluna 06 04:56, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Sure. SilverDragon28 20:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. Kuzlalala Squee! 08:46, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
  6. From what little I know about Kuja, he sounds right for the role. Wants to destroy the world because he's upset about his fate, apparently pretty good at magic, (attempts to) cater to fangirls. The one thing I'm worried about is a one-sided fight. Kuja is much more popular than Genesis.Neo Bahamut 02:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
  7. I never voted for my own suggestion! *Gasp* Xlatinsorax 04:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
  8. I normally dont like fights probably destined to be a landslide, but i wanna see Kuja destroy him :) Gyromite 17:42, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
  9. Since I think they're both pretty awesome, I approve, or support or whatever it is nowadays. :S However I do think Genesis has a good chance against Kuja. SonOfAJenova 10:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
  10. Why not? I would like to see someone kicking Genesis' ass. And Kuja rocks. Zak Undersn 16:36, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
  11. I'm in favor of this. I think it'll be a landslide in Kuja's favor, but hell, anything to see Genesis getting his ass kickedTheBlueDragoon 00:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  12. Hm I like both these Characters, but I think id pull for Genesis. This would be a most interesting fight. 74.193.194.64 02:49, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
  13. Good idea. Final Cannon 06:08, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  14. Yes. -Alarielle- 23:23, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  15. Because I would love to see Genesis get his butt kicked by an effeminate male in a thong. Mako Angel
  16. Rinoa leonheart 11:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC) go genesis lol O YA:)
  17. Hell Yeah that would be an Epic battle! --98.202.29.147 03:06, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
  18. That sounds like an Awesome idea, and it would get Genesis in the DNC. I approve --CLOUD 17:26, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
  19. The Man In The Black Cape 20:12, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Nyet. The.DreadnoughT 03:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. No Hamfruitcake 09 21:06, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Again, Kuja's way too much of a good character to be pitted against scrubs who sound like something from crap Fan Fiction.AnonyMan 19:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Noone tries Genesis.Noone!!! So don't speak blasphemy.

"Scrubs who sound like something from crap Fan Fiction"? Kuja recites poetry, wears a thong, & is convinced by the good guy to stop being such a douche. Sounds like he got Mary Sued to me. I'm not sure what your criteria is, but Genesis is a perfectly good candidate for the DNC, & I want to see this fight. Hell, I'm not even entirely sure if it'll be in Kuja's favor anymore.Neo Bahamut 05:19, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Geeze, don't cross out the guy for having an opinion. I hope it's alright that I did away with the cross out. Anyway, about the fight I was going to reject it thinking that Kuja is awesome and part of the mainstream games whereas I really didn't think many people knew about Genesis (including me). By the way, I'm not against Genesis, I just don't know about him. But seeing so many people in his favor (even crossing out anyone against him) and that the reasoning that they're both "failed" is very interesting, I don't think I'll take a side for this one. MisfitAirship

Besaid Aurochs vs. Zanarkand Abes Edit

I Hate Blitzball, but, hey, it's something original. Tidus is on the Abes, by the way.Xepscern Highwind

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  1. We don't know enough of the Zanarkand Abes to pit them in a fight. Jeppo 18:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. I don't know. I liked FFX but blitzball wasn't exactly something a lot of people liked. This fight might alienate the people that haven't played the game. Also, like the person above me said we don't know much about the Zanarkand Abes. We don't even know if they were any good or not. 69.125.31.3 22:47, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. No contest. The Aurochs would probs lose even if Tidus was on their side. -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 22:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Anything that keeps Blitzball out of the DNC works for me. The Man In The Black Cape 20:15, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Actually a game called Blitzball appears in a book called A Seperate Peace. But it has absolutely nothing to do with the Final Fantasy series.

How can we decide which team Tidus is on, since he actually plays on both teams at least once? Just wondering... The.DreadnoughT 22:46, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Ramuh vs. Adrammelech Edit

Which one would win the traditional thunder summon, Ramuh, or the new guy , Adrammelech ? Unnonymous11:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

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  1. I'm out. It will be a one-horse race, and Ixion isn't even fighting! Jeppo 18:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Ok, first of all you spelled anonymous wrong.us second of all this is THE SAME THING as Ifrit vs. Belias. And third of all.....Ixion would be a better choice. B) Judge Balthier 00:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. I agree two lesser and not in more than half the games summons would be a better choice to go at it. At least then there would be some of a fight going on. MisfitAirship

Comments Edit

Sabin vs. Edgar Edit

Who deserves to be the true leader of Figaro.Xepscern Highwind

Support Edit

  1. OK, I'll support it, even if it is just single game. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 20:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Brother Fight! (Oh I wish there's a Montblanc vs Hurdy one, but it's rejected by a lot of people...) Kuzlalala 23:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. I love to see this fight king vs. monk JudgeMasterKefka 17:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. The question has been thoroughly answered, but I'd still like to see which twin more people perfer. Anony
  5. I don't see why not. They seems like a cool match up. Who do people like more: The ladies man king or the powerhouse monk? jedicam10 98.247.247.163 03:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  6. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  7. bum rush vs. chain saw..
  8. Eh? I coulda sworn I'd voted for this :P Bangaa Red Mage 06:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
  9. They did work together in the twins fight a while ago. And if I'm not mistaken they won too, so pitting them against each other would be cool. MisfitAirship

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Comments Edit

Didn't the question of who should rule Figaro kinda get answered already, when Sabin and Edgar flipped the coin? The.DreadnoughT 20:32, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

It was doubly answered when Edgar rigged the coin-toss so that Sabin couldn't "win", thereby preventing him from taking up that kind of responsibility and making sure FF has its paragon Martial Artist. So yeah, you have a point. Anony
They fliped to see who would be king. There can still be a hidden advisor controling the king and the kingdom through him. Sabin still has a fighting chance to win that place after loosing the position of king. Also, don't try to make too much sence out of these fights or you will come up with something as ridiculous as what I just said.- Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 00:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually, Edgar rigged it so that Sabin would win, so that Edgar ruled the kingdom and his brother would go into the wilderness. Bangaa Red Mage 08:50, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for clearing that up, I was getting confused. It makes more sense now. MisfitAirship

Quina Quen vs. Kimahri Ronso Edit

Pretty Self-explanatory, battle of the Blue Mages.

Approve Edit

  1. I'm definitely one of 9 FF fans on the planet who actually like both character. But it still probaly get denied. Shame... AnonyMan
  2. Nokareon: Well, I'm obviously voting for my own suggestion... I really liked Quina in IX, even if I didn't fight much with him. He added a good amount of humor to the game, and was honestly one of the most creative characters in the entire series, in my opinion. I wanted to see him in a fight, and Kimahri was the only other obvious pick for a named Blue Mage (Strago or Gau from VI or Quistis from VIII would be the other ones who could qualify as Blue Mages, but I'm pretty sure any of them would destroy Quina).
  3. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Why not? It's a fight where not a lot of the people like either of the contenders...could be a close match (but I'd place my bets on Quina).Violet mage17:32, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Eh, why not? Yath13:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. I don't mind either, plus it'd be nice to see Quina in a fight he might win... Hamfruitcake 09 22:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  7. This seems interesting. Kuzlalala 09:10, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Not really much of a fight. Quina is not exactly well liked by people and Kimahri is basicaly unknown. He is probably the least memorable character in FFX even when their are characters far worse. (That's probably why he's unknown: he's not the best, not the worst, he doesn't contribute much to the plot because he rarely speaks) - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 01:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Hmm... Blue Mage that can't stop eating vs. Blue Mage with Spears? Too much stupidity in one fight for me. The.DreadnoughT 03:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. No thanks. ~ Anonymous
  4. I don't hate Quina so much as find it a pointless character, but still the food jokes got old fast; and it was useless to me in battle. As for Kimahri, if they're going to make Jump a Limit Break or Overdrive move, they might as well not put it in at all. SilverDragon28 21:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Uh, Ninja of Wind? I'm pretty sure you're supposed to put the number sign (#) before your vote, whether its support or reject. Because if you don't, and everyone else does, then the numbering is off. Which makes counting votes (if anyone does, I don't quite know how these fights actually get chosen) harder. I added it for you, remove it if you don't like the numbering. The.DreadnoughT 03:24, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. It just slipped my mind. Thanks for adding it. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 00:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

The Weapons Vs Sephiroth Edit

The classic batttle between beast and master...WHO WILL WIN Derum

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Reject Edit

  1. Sephiroth isn't there master. And there not beasts.--Wddownnotup 16:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Technically, they were Sephiroth's enemies. Anyways, no.--JohnnyC 18:07, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Kuzlalala Squee! 09:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yeah, didn't the weapons from VII try to kill Sephiroth? I thought that was their job. MisfitAirship

Comments Edit

Cecil Harvey vs Delita Heiral Edit

Two paladins who are tainted by EVIL

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Reject Edit

  1. Cecil was never a evil Paladin. He became a Paladin from being a Dark Knight because he couldn't kill the evil with darkness. ScatheMote 12:17, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. And Delita isn't really evil, it just he's done some shady as things towards the greater good. Only thing these two have in common is that they didn't start as Paladins. Anony
  3. Good points against. MisfitAirship

Comments Edit

Lulu vs Tifa Edit

Fine Xepscern Highwind. Magic Boobs vs Not-magic Boobs.

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Reject Edit

  1. They're not femme fatales. Even funnier when you realize someone like the annoying Yuffie was more of one than either of 'em.Anony
  2. Whoever put this, just say what it is: Boobs vs. Boobs Xepscern Highwind
  3. PPEERRVVEERRTT!!Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yeah, don't encourage the perverts with a fight like this. MisfitAirship
  5. I have to agree with the Aerith Hater on this one.FaythOfFenrir 03:27, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Who is this AerithHater you're talking about??Sephiroth66 18:18, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Rosa VS Geezard Edit

The similaritys are that they are both wakk as heck yo.

Approve Edit

  1. I approve--Wddownnotup 16:55, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. I'm sorry, but I can't think of a reason to support this fight. You're comparing Rosa to the enemy? Am I missing something? MisfitAirship

Comments Edit

Firion vs Bartz vs Gilgamesh Edit

Firion carries a large and versatile arsenal.
Bartz copies the weapons of his friends.
Gilgamesh uses six swords simultaneously.
Battle of the weapon masters. SilverDragon28 20:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Approve Edit

Reject Edit

  1. ScatheMote 22:37, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Aren't three way fights not allowed? TheBlueDragoon 01:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. I don't think they are allowed either, they always get rejected anyway. MisfitAirship

Comments Edit

I was talking about their Dissidia incarnations. SilverDragon28 14:20, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, in that case I can't tell you if this is good or not since I don't play Dissidia. I'll just delete my vote now. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 22:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Gilgamesh is a bit out-of-place in here, if we're talking about Dissidia. Zak Undersn 16:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Squall vs Laguna Edit

The VIII version of Tidus vs Jecht, but with much better chracters on both sides.

Approve Edit

  1. Rinoa leonheart 11:20, 25 August 2009 (UTC) i say go for it(but i am wiht squall will win)O YA
  2. APPROVED!User:NeoTrigger
  3. I don't think they're being compared, they're just beating each other up. And if that isn't father/son love, I don't know what is. MisfitAirship

Reject Edit

  1. As much as i'm an VIII fanboy, it's a no contest cos these two were NEVER MEANT TO BE COMPARED. I mean, like, the contrast is way too purposeful for there to be a meaningful contest.

Comments Edit

Ramza Beoulve vs Luso Clemens Edit

Protagonists of two different FFT, they can both learn Ultima in FFT

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Reject Edit

  1. I don't think people are even very aware of Luso's existence. At least I'm not.--JohnnyC 18:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. No-no-no! Kuzlalala Squee! 10:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Ramza would destroy Luso. Sorry, but I even hated Luso, and I like Quina and Relm.
  4. Luso is to be burnt. Many times. And if he dies, I'll call WM to Life him to burn him again. -Alarielle- 23:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Luso...ugh. Well, go past the ploofy pants, the strange hat, the giant sword in his artwork...nope, still got an awful character. Ramza would crush him. Bangaa Red Mage 06:34, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
  6. Not much of a fight...more of another instant KO if you ask me... MisfitAirship

Comments Edit

Sphere Grid vs License Board Edit

Eh. They seem related.

Approve Edit

  1. Curious...Kuzlalala 00:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Great idea.Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. I am borderlined, but still edging more to reject because neither of these have anything special about them. All they are for is to have a way to choose the abilities characters learn in FFX and FFXII, so in that sense, they are the same. If you are asking which is more liked, don't bother. Licence board is going to win by a landslide. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 03:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Actually it might not. (I'm pretty sure I can figure out how to wear a <expletive deleted> hat without a license to.) But I'm going to imitate you, Ninja of Wind: When you can prove how these two can fight, I might vote in favor of it. Possibly. But very unlikely. The.DreadnoughT 00:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Griever vs. Alexander(FFIX) Edit

Two of the most powerful summon in their game that you cannot summon yourself, so why not let them battle it out to see which one is stronger or well more liked?

Support Edit

  1. I support it coz its my idea.Mr_Darkside 09:14, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


Reject Edit

  1. Griever appeared for a brief battle at the end of FF8. And even if Alexander is specified to be from FF9, people aren't going to forget all the other games he's been in. Griever's already lost.--JohnnyC 18:08, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. I agree, no contest. Try avoiding the main, reoccurring summons because they tend to beat everything without trying. MisfitAirship

Comment Edit

Montblanc vs. Hurdy vs. Nono Edit

Three moogle brothers from Ivalice who had appeared more than one time. Who should be the one who gets more fame, kupo?

Support Edit

  1. Since it's my idea. Kuzlalala 10:17, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Well, it's obvious Montiblanc would win, but I'm more curious on how the DNC would deal with a 3-way fight, will they break tradition, or deny the challenge?  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 13:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. I want to know if three-way fight would be allowed.JudgeMasterKefka 14:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. Nice one Kuz, you really want a moogle fight. Count me in!!! Devil Breaker 06:10, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  6. Kupo! TheBlueDragoon 04:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
  7. A new twist on a family fight, I like it! MisfitAirship

Reject Edit

  1. Ivalice moogles gave me herpes Zak Undersn 20:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Agreed. -Alarielle- 23:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

I read one of the archives and I saw a three way fight. I think it's that battle system vote or something. Kuzlalala 00:29, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Or maybe you would want to delete one of the moogles above? Kuzlalala Squee! 10:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

<-corny joke-> People now get STD from Ivalician Moogles?weird</-corny joke->

Mind herpes, if you wish Zak Undersn 11:39, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
There are worse moogles out there. Three ways are allowed? Huh, that changes some stuff... MisfitAirship

Genesis vs. Sephiroth Edit

Two crazy superSOLDIERS who are products of weird alien cell experiments

Approve Edit

  1. Rinoa leonheart 17:02, October 9, 2009 (UTC) Genesis O YA

Reject Edit

  1. Already been sugested, Sephy would win hands down.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 13:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Only a extremely little amount of people likes Genesis. And I'm not one of them. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 00:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. I am but like above it's already been done.ProGen
  4. No contest MisfitAirship

Comments Edit

Er... this fight is also near the top of the page. Zak Undersn 16:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

In an actual fight it would be close but because this is just voting Sephiroth wins.the6thangel

Odin vs Yojimbo Edit

Man-who-likes-to-cut-things-in-half on a horse vs weird skinny man-who-likes-to-cut-things-in-half for a price

Approve Edit

  1. I like your comparison so I'll vote
  2. You have my vote. Final Cannon 06:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Yojimbo wins in my mind, but I guess it'll be a landslide for Odin. Anyway, let's see it. -Alarielle- 23:31, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. I approve --CLOUD 17:32, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
  5. As much as I think Odin will be the undisputed champ of this fight, I still want to see it happen. MisfitAirship

Reject Edit

  1. ScatheMote 13:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:35, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Zalera vs Odin Edit

The useless-when-you-need-them-most summon of FFXII and, well, most of the other final fantasies

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Reject Edit

  1. ScatheMote 13:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Even were it not a stupid idea, I'd reject it just on the grounds of the suggester having called Odin useless. <Insert insulting string of curse words here.> The.DreadnoughT 02:31, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Instant KO, no point in a fight that we know the outcome to. MisfitAirship

Comments Edit

Tournesol vs Zodiac Spear Edit

The two mostest ULTIMATEST weapons in FFXII. I don't like wyrmhero blade.

Approve Edit

  1. I approve. MY IDEA. I've always debated this within myself.~Anonymous

Reject Edit

  1. ScatheMote 13:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 22:38, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. This is awful
  4. I don't think so. I can see weapon battles if its classic weapons such as the Excalibur, Ragnarok and the Masamune, but these two weapons only appeared in FFXII, so no. It just doesn't make sense to me. Look above if you want a weapon battle. There's a good one. Excalibur versus another weapon. TheBlueDragoon 18:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Tournesol has more blocking ability but zodiac spear is a little faster and much stronger but since there's a damage cap anyway...

Well, there's that and the fact that the Tournesol is annoying to make whereas the Zodiac Spear is more powerful and easy to get. MisfitAirship

Vivi vs. Rydia Edit

The link is being Black Mages.

Approve Edit

  1. Nokareon: I'm obviously approving my own idea. So I was honestly surprised that of all the characters these two have gone up against, they've never gone up against each other, especially considering the popularity both of them have. I think this would be an interesting fight to see.
  2. I like the fight, but it probably won't happen because it is between two of the most overused characters in the DNC (besides Sephiroth) - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 22:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. -Alarielle- 23:33, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Vivi, always cool. Never get old to see him. Rydia, unfortunately has a bit of a gap between her and the rest of the DNC Titans(Vivi being one). And I believe she lost to all the ones she went against. Anony
  2. I love Rydia but Vivi would Mutilate her.

Necron vs. Safer Sephiroth Edit

Two of the best final bosses ever.

Approve Edit

Reject Edit

  1. Sephiroth is OK, but Necron serves no purpose in FF9 and so should be rejected. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 22:25, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Nope Just doesn't go well. AnonyMan
  3. Nokareon: Blowout because at least people know what Sephiroth is.
  4. Think about it. Sephiroth versus Necron? Even in Safer form, it's to lopsided. -Visitor
  5. I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate Necron! Silver Dragon XXVIII 14:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. Necron= EPIC FAIL --CLOUD 17:37, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
  7. No way Necron could stand a chance. MisfitAirship

Comments Edit

Safer Sephiroth's a joke of a final boss...actually alot of the Final Bosses are jokes. Necron's sort of a joke because there not much context and detail to his character, then again that just may be part of IX's homage and allusions to previous games. Anony

Rydia vs Garnet Til Alexandros XVII Edit

Two of the greatest and most beautiful summoners in the Final Fantasy series.

Approve Edit

  1. Anony
  2. Hell, I'm game, even if Rydia was just in a fight last week. TheBlueDragoon 19:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Although as TheBlueDragoon says, it's too soon for more Rydia atm -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 20:07, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Yeah! Go Rydia! Final Cannon 06:12, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. In my mind Yuna overpowers them, but hey, they indeed are great and beautiful. -Alarielle- 23:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  6.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 18:18, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. You are a pervert.Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Primary focus of abilities be damned Eiko>Garnet in Summoning as well as White Magic. AnonyMan

I thought it was Garnet>Ekio in Summoning and Garnet<Eiko in White Magic. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Technically, yes. Garnet's more focused on summoning she has more of them. But quantity doesn't equal quality in this case. Anony
Still, Garnet gets all the good summons while Eiko gets 4 near useless summons (ignoring the last). Garnet is really the only one who can do real damage.--Werefang 13:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Dealing Damage...in FFIX. Every character can dish out quad-9s very easily(especially the ones people hate most). Eiko's Summons are more versatile; some do damage(and simultaneously revive), some cast buffs, and some just are awesome. She's just a better game play choice once she shows up. Anony
On the other hand, if Garnet Trances, summon both Ark and Bahamut, then leave her in Trance. The repeated auto-summoning of the two Eidolons dishes out major hurt -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 20:07, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Amarant v.s. Kimahri Edit

Two characters who have their class types mixed between some of the best classes in the series. Amarant: Monk/ Ninja combo. Kimahri: Blue Mage/ Dragoon combo. Which one pulls off their multi-classing better? - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Those happen to be my favorite four classes in the series, by the way. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. They're also fairly silent and are almost an afterthought with their games stories. They also happen to both be awesome as all hell. AnonyMan
  3. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. If we're talking generally, Amarant's abilities may give him the advantage. Once we hit Limits, Amarant is unimproved (since Kimahri is only one target), whereas Kimahri gets to use Ronso Rage. -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 22:33, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. I would like to see Amarant on the DNC. Zak Undersn 14:16, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
  6. I approve, Amarant would be an awesome contender in the DNC and this is a good matchup --CLOUD 17:39, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
  7. You voted for mine! Yay! Khimari would totally win. XDSonofIvalice 20:32, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
  8. Very original fight, I love the reasoning and never would have thought of it before. MisfitAirship

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Comment Edit

Eden vs Odin Edit

Two monsters with devostating attacks wich both are pretty much instant kills. 23:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Approve Edit

Reject Edit

  1. Odin is a recurrent and loved summon, and Eden only appears in FFVIII. This would be a landslide. If you want to put Eden in the DNC, try versus Arc (FFIX). They both are the most powerful summons in their games, optionals, not easy to obtain and only appears in their games. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 23:39, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Kingdom of Baron vs Archadian Empire Edit

Two once great kingdoms that eventually resorted to oppression(due to bad leadership).

Approve Edit

  1. Kuzlalala Squee! 09:40, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

Comment Edit

Dark Messenger vs One-Winged Angel Edit

Two awesome final boss themes (I refuse to call that random tacked-on wierdo the final boss of IX) SilverDragon28 19:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Approve Edit

  1. Mine. SilverDragon28 19:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. One-Winged Angel takes the victory with an insta-kill!!!
  3. *Opening bars of One Winged Angel* Enough said. The.DreadnoughT 03:18, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Uematsu proved his unrivaled and supreme musical genius with One-Winged Angel.- Saraija Merinas
  5. I Approve but i predict a landslide for one-winged-angel. Nothing can compare with the first time you ever heard those three bars while watching Advent Children for the first time --CLOUD 17:46, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

Comment Edit

@SilverDragon28: Number Sign (#) before your vote. Just a friendly reminder. (I've been fixing this page too long and its getting annoying.) The.DreadnoughT 02:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Silver Dragon XXVIII 21:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Brotherhood vs Revolver Edit

Two very very very identifiable swords that have unique design(Buster Sword was like a Zweihander that looked like a kitchen knife.)

Approve Edit

  1. You know that this is gonna be a blowout!...But I'll still vote for Brotherhood. Judge Balthier 15:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Hell yes! The Revolver is my favorite weapon! XDSonofIvalice 02:03, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. There is only one Brotherhood worth bothering with, and only one such Revolver as well. I linked them. The.DreadnoughT 03:15, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

In fact, Brotherhood is just a falcata that looks like a hook and Revolver is just a gun that looks like a design knife.

A falcata doesn't have water in it with floating bubbles, nor is the Revolver a gun, as it doesn't actually shoot. It's more a sword with a razor effect than anything.SonofIvalice 02:01, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Revolver vs Hyperion Edit

The only two gunblades in VIII. Forget the revolver mods, they're just revolver upgrades.

Approve Edit

Reject Edit

  1. Excuse me sir but you hadn't supported your nominee, and I reject it coz, they have nothing in common other than they're gunblades, and owned by rival gunbladers.

Comment Edit

  1. Excuse me sir, but you haven't signed your vote with four tildes (~~~~) like you're supposed to. The.DreadnoughT 17:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Omega (VII) vs Necron Edit

Two huge pains in the ass!!!

Approve Edit

Reject Edit

This is just another one of those "Who's worse than who?" fights. All of which are lame. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 01:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

They may be lame but at least their not the popularity contest that most of these battles turn into.

It will be a reverse-popularity contest. The less hated would win Zak Undersn 21:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
That's still a popularity contest, just between two people nobody likes. A reverse popularity contest means the most hated wins. That'd be why it's reverse. It's like this: -1 is greater than -2. However, | -1| = 1, and | -2| = 2, so | -2| > | -1|. (the |number| means "absolute value" or ignore the sign.) The.DreadnoughT 02:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Yuna vs Aerith Edit

  1. Essentially, this is a fight between the 2 most popular white mages (and summoners, I guess) in the series.Neo Bahamut 02:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Approve Edit

  1. Well, I did suggest it….Neo Bahamut 02:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. I vote for this on the condition that someone stops spelling it "Aerith." I even created a userbox over that! (Seriously, I did. Go check my userpage.) And whoever created this, put in the NUMBER SIGN before you vote! The.DreadnoughT 00:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. BritPenance: I third the above provided you call her Aeris as well
  4. I am TheBlueDragoon, and I approve and support this fight. TheBlueDragoon 01:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. Finally! This is a fight among equals! Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes! Xlatinsorax 16:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. I like it ....and Aerith is her real name dickwads The6thangel 15:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  7. Good idea. ClixPsi
  8. Judge Balthier 00:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  9. -Alarielle- 23:37, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  10. I see it more as a battle between two women willing to give their life to save the world myself, but regardless it's still the same characters so you have my vote. "Riven" 89.195.65.97 03:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  11. It's pretty much a tie "PING" double KO [ [Mistbrawler101] ]
  12. I Approve and believe it or not, Yuna has my vote --CLOUD 17:48, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Kuzlalala Squee! 22:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Meh, nothing special here. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 01:42, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. I don't feel like seeing the VII fanboys powervoting Aerith for an unimportant fight BoAKaNRikkusmallsig 02:09, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Aerith is no more a summoner or white mage than anyone else in 7--Werefang 21:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Two things. One, the fight is too one-sided. Yuna would beat the fuck out of that slut. And two, NO MORE FIGHTS INVOLVING A SLUT!!! Yeah, you know who I'm talking about.Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Nothing special? You've gotta be kidding me! With how much people bitch about the same old characters (Cloud, Squall, Sephiroth, Auron, etc.) being submitted, someone (that'd be me) decides, "Hey, white mages, heroines, debatably more influential than the main characters, messiah-like, staff chicks, this seems pretty unique," and you honestly think it ISN'T? I also want to see Genesis in a fight, but there's like 3 submissions with him, I don't have an idea for his equal in another game, and I was honestly pretty proud of this idea....Neo Bahamut 20:27, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

When you put it that way, it is pretty original compared to some of the other suggestions, but white mages just don't seem like they can duke it out as well as other characters. It's also because Yuna is kind of pushed out of the way in the plot in the middle of the game. It also happens to Aerith in the form of her being killed, but that actually adds some depth to her story. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 17:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Yay, you saw my logic, afterall! I don't feel that Yuna was pushed out of the plot, but you're right, her story didn't deepen as much after the big revelation of the Final Summoning. Turns out there was actually a white mage fight ages ago, but that's the point: It hasn't happened in a looooong time, & they're not really "fighting" characters, so it's original. Either way, the suggestion is here, but it doesn't look like it'll get much attention, so I'll probably just leave things up to TacticAngel. I'm working on a new suggestion, anyway. It's...starting to look like an all-FFVII thing, but don't hold that against it, as I assure you, I'm taking plenty of time to try to find a proper pairing for Genesis. (I want his first time to be an actual debate, not him just squashing/being squashed by a much less/more popular character.Neo Bahamut 21:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Umm...Ninja of Wind, are you gonna change your vote? I'm guessing "no...."
I'm not changing my vote because even though I understand why you want the fight, it is still just two white mages swinging staffs around. And everyone else on the DNC is thinking, "Wow, popularity contest. I know who Aerith is, but I don't know who Yuna is, so I pick Aerith," or they will think, "Yuna's summons could crush Aerith without trying," which defeats the white mage aspect, and there will always be an idiot out there who thinks, "(Aerith/Yuna) is HOT, I vote her." Even though it makes perfect sense in your mind doesn't mean it will make sense in everyone else's minds. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Really not seeing the cause for concern. I mean, the logic a person goes to to reach their vote is their own choice. Really, most of the problems you outlined are just a fact of the DNC, are prevelent in every or almost every fight. As for the fighting aspect: White Mages swinging staves around...yeah? So? Yuna's summons crushing Aerith...as indicated by this battle's description, she DOES have access to materia.Neo Bahamut 02:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Isn't this description slightly inaccurate? Aeris is just a White Mage. (One can only get something like four Summon materias before Aeris dies, and she doesn't need to be equipped with, or have much use for, any of them, because none of them are very useful until after she dies.) And you know what would be a White Mage fight I'd pay to watch? Two white mages with all the White Magic spells and equipped with Cure Rods. The.DreadnoughT 00:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

The way I worded that was supposed to suggest that Aerith was technically a summoner, but not much of one. Now, then...I can has reject or approve vote plz...?Neo Bahamut 00:46, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Sure. Why not. You, after all, argue that Materia prevents someone from being a fighter... but I'll leave that argument resting where it does- the Fighters vs Mages DNC battle's Peanut Gallery. The.DreadnoughT 22:54, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I didn't argue that materia prevented someone from being a fighter. It was argued to me that materia prevented anyone in FFVII from being a mage, which was just ludicrous. But, like you said, that argument is passed. I created this, I simply forgot to sign my name. I normally rely on text boxes. And "Aerith" is the proper spelling. Quite frankly, "Aeris" sounds like you're trying to say "air" with a lisp.Neo Bahamut 02:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
And your name tempts me to call you "B***h Mutt, the Neo-Nazi of Grammar." (F---, Drake Clawfang and BlueHighwind are right- her name IS starting a war! (just an edit "skirmish" right now, but...) But don't worry, now I've got that out of my system and will probably never repeat it. I apologize if that really annoys you; I had to get it out of my system to avoid screaming this The.DreadnoughT 22:00, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
It'd have to be a very peculiar lisp. Especially since the typical lisp is the replacement of "s" with "th", so actually it's the opposite way round: "Aerith" sounds like you're saying "Aeris" with a "lithp". Your argument just got Pwnd. Have a nice day! -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 22:08, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
No it didn't. A lisp is a general term for a speach impediment. And The Dreadnought: It does bother me a bit, but whatever, it's just a spelling. No big deal.Neo Bahamut 00:25, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I know, that's why I said "typical lisp", although I suppose "stereotypical" would have been a better choice of word. I'd still like to see this weird impediment you suggested that adds an entire extra syllable to the end of "air", and I'd also like to know how, with this peculiar lisp, "Aerith" is any different to "Aeris"! -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 18:00, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
It's not supposed to mean that you add an extra syllable, just that you have an "s" sound at the end of your words. Sort of a whistley thing. It's actually fairly common among kids.Neo Bahamut 21:44, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
So her name is now apparently "Aers"? If you don't want to add a syllable, you have to lose the "i", and that goes for "Aerth" too. ANYWAY, this argument is getting a bit out of hand (also fairly common among kids), so this is my last word on the matter (here, at least) -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 22:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Back on-topic, I agree with The.Dreadnought's suggestion back near the top of this comments section:

Two white mages with all the White Magic spells and equipped with Cure Rods.

-- Sorceror Nobody Flan 22:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to continue to call her by her proper name! Shit, what is WITH you people? Oh, & it's called a "pound sign." >_< Now, I wasn't going to respond to the "lisp" argument, but since I had to comment anyway...there's going to be a natural "i" sound just before the "s." I SAID it was whistely, didn't I? If it dropped off at the end with just an "s," it would sound unnatural. Roughly, it would sound like "arse," only with a softer "a" sound. The "i" sound isn't very strong, but it is there. It would have to be, if it wasn't deliberate.Neo Bahamut 02:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Wait, what's this about a Pound Sign? #1 isn't called "Pound One," it's called "Number One." I always thought a pound sign looked something like this: ₤ The.DreadnoughT 21:21, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
And pot is both a drug and a sculpture. Look it up, if you don't believe me. It's called a pound sign. I never said it was used as the abbreviation for the unit of weight.Neo Bahamut 00:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Wrong again, NB. That is the British currency symbol. They (used to? Did the UK switch to the Euro? I can't remember...) use pounds as their money. Beats the hell out of me why, ask someone from the UK. The abbreviation for a pound (of mass! WEIGHT IS A FORCE, MEASURED IN NEWTONS [DOWN], created by GRAVITY!) is "lb," Neo Bahamut. And, I do understand that the Number Sign is also the Pound Sign. Its also used by chat filters as one of the replacement characters if you swear. And if you want, I could go look up the ASCII code for it, too. Oh, and pot isn't a drug, it's slang for a kind of drug. And a pot is also a container, actually; you cook with pots, too. Or use them as cheap helmets when your army can't afford proper ones. The.DreadnoughT 02:52, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Stop. Taking. Speed.Neo Bahamut 04:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

@Boakan: You realize you're voting it down soley because Aerith is from FFVII, right? If fanboyism of a game is something that should be despised, what about overly obsessive hatred of a game?Neo Bahamut 06:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Obsessive hatred of what game? (other than VII, which just can't be hated. I tried imagining that once; it didn't work.) Some games, you see, really deserve hatred. CoughVIIIcoughcough, wheeze, word, onomatopoeia. Of course, obsessively hating VII is wrong. (No, I'm not a hypocrite. On a similar note, I'm also not in denial.) The.DreadnoughT 03:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I'm not bitching you out, don't worry. I think what I'm getting at is--arlight, most people should know by now that I absolutely HATE XII. But I do not look at every suggestion here that has Balthier or Basch in it & vote it down, with some shitty excuse like, "I don't like the fanboys." I judge based on the matches. IThat's why I voted for Ramza vs. Basch a while back. Whilest I hate Basch, I admit that the connection was good. In other words: I don't ruin it for the rest of you, so don't ruin it for me. You know who you are.Neo Bahamut 05:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
I completely agree I hate it when people refer to these elusive, completely unreasonable fanboys (that I'm not even sure exist) as a reason not to do something... FF VII is by far my favourite FF so I suppose I am one of these "Fanboys" but I actually think I would side with Yuna in this fight for various reasons, people should give things more of a chance! "Riven" 89.195.65.97 03:23, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Dark Knight vs Paladin Edit

I know this battle was made before, but I want to make a hue. This is not a dark versus light battle. This is not a black magic versus white magic. This is a battle between two life styles, two ways of protect someone. Dark Knight, the sword, who never hesitates to sacriface himself in a kamikaze battle, destroying himself with the enemies, giving no time for them to damage his allies. Paladin, the shield, who never hesitates to sacriface himself taking all the damage from the enemies and giving no chance for them to damage his allies. "You'll die with me" versus "over my corpse!". "The best defense is a great attack" versus "the best attack is a great defense".

And the first fight was long ago. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 23:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Approve Edit

  1. It was my suggestion. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 23:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. It's O.K. Even if I don't really get along with these kind of jobs ("I inflict myself damage then you die" & "I can't heal nor fight but god's with me"), they're cool. Zak Undersn 13:35, 24 April 2009 (U#TC)
  3. Meh, why not, the paladins will win easily. Cloudofdarkness was here
  4. I like your arguments. Karu
  5. Hell yes, I think this is an excellent fight! [Anonymous]
  6. Kuzlalala Squee! 23:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
  7. Because I bought IV recently. Terra_Homing 00:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
  8. Emo Ownage vs Excessively Religious Ownage.(disclaimer: The.Dreadnought has nothing against emos, religious people, ownage, dark knights, paladins, Cecil or even emus.) Why not? The.DreadnoughT 01:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
  9. Yes. Yath 13:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  10. Great idea. I support.
  11. I like it Hamfruitcake 09 22:04, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  12. Protect someone by making sure there's nothing left to hurt them, or by making sure that nothing gets near enough to hurt them. Interesting choice. "Riven" 89.195.65.97 03:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  13. The Man In The Black Cape 20:20, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. I was never a big fan of the ideas of dark knights or paladins. Dark knights are too emo by cutting themselves just to get that little bit more damage. And paladins have to actively cover other people, which takes away their chances to use their incredible strength to destroy the enemy. They are usefull when needed, but are not very good classes to stay as. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 01:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

  1. I always seen dark knights as expending their soul to do damage, nothing 'emo' about that. anon

Garnett vs. Ashe Edit

Both princesses who would be Queen (by end of game). Also, both have weird full names.

I know this isn't a lot to go by, but if you think about it, they are very similar.Xepscern Highwind

Support Edit

  1. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Deny Edit

Commets Edit

It's also already been done. It was in the same week as the Hojo v.s. Dr. Cid suggestion that you struck through. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 22:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC) </s>

Kefka v.s. Hojo Edit

Two psycho who love to torment half-human girls. NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 00:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Yes I am aware that Kefka will destory Hojo, but it is new right.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 00:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. As much as I don't like to reject fights, I feel this would just be pointless. Hojo would, as you said, be destroyed. The characters aren't that related, & all & all, it would be a waste of a week. One-sided fights sort off piss the wiki-goers off, you know....Neo Bahamut 00:52, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Leo v.s. Angeal Edit

Two honorable warriors, who die with honor.

Support Edit

 NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 00:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC) Pity vote.Neo Bahamut 05:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

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Comment Edit

Red XIII vs Freya Crescent Edit

They're both red. They're both a non-human species. And they're both wise, taciturn characters. And they're both cool. ^^

Support Edit

  1. OMG FREYA IN THE DNC. <3 —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Love both chars Zak Undersn 20:00, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Cranequin This'll be a tough one 15:38, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. I would like to see Red in the DNC. TheBlueDragoon 00:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. I'd Love to see both these Characters in the DNC --CLOUD 17:50, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

Krile vs Eiko Edit

They're both ditzy and live with Moogles...? Shut up. <_< —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Supporting just for the chance to vote for Krile. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 17:17, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Eiko would win easily. From my knowledge, very few people like Krile, or any of the main cast of V, really.

Comments Edit

Ramza vs Basch Edit

They are both considered traitors throughout the entire world but they are actually people with a strong sense of justice. --TenzaZangetsu 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Good idea. Rai Balmung, the gargoyle 23:33, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. As much as I hate Basch, that's a pretty solid foundation for a comparison between the 2 characters. Tres bien.Neo Bahamut 04:31, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. My idea. --TenzaZangetsu 26 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Nice. The connection is pretty original too. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 01:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. It is a pretty good connection. A-Man
  6. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
  7. One of the few things that makes sense here. Leon5550 04:16, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
  8. I like it Silver Dragon XXVIII 21:47, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
  9. It's good. Judge Balthier 17:36, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
  10. JudgeMasterKefka
  11. I support it. Good matchup. TheBlueDragoon 01:36, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
  12. This is kinda a good one.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 09:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  13. --Muchomas35 13:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  14. Unfortunately, we just had Basch fight, but I'll still support it for the future. -Nokareon
  15. supportfestplz. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 06:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
  16. Definately! Xlatinsorax 03:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
  17. Finally! A great, actually hard to chose between fight!- Saraija Merinas

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Comments Edit

Ragnarok vs Illumina Edit

The strongest weapons in FFVI, but which one will be the strongest? (besides Ultima Weapon) --dornob25, 11:11 AM, April 25, 2009

Support Edit

  1. Why not? It will settle whether random-casting Holy or Flare is better, at least. Seeing as how we already know that the Illumina is better, stat-wise. But what about those retards ...ahem, people... who take the Esper Ragnarok? (And, before people start judging me, I'd better sign the one vote I forgot to, before someone realizes unsigned votes are supposed to be effing DELETED.) The.DreadnoughT 16:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Because looking at the stats, they're basically the same weapon save for the Random-Casting. 13:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Angeal vs. Sephiroth Edit

Support Edit

  1. Rinoa leonheart 17:13, October 9, 2009 (UTC) it would BE FUN!!!! O YA

Reject Edit

  1. They're from the same game, plus Sephie would win in a landslide Jeppo 09:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. For the same reason as Jeppo. Sephiroth is much more popular, and i never liked Angeal. He is just some Zack rip-off, like Cloud. Gyromite 17:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Too easy. But how is Cloud the Zack rip-off? He came before Zack.--Werefang 14:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. This wouldn't even be a challenge. But to contribute to this argument, how the Hell is Angeal a Zack ripoff? He wasn't nearly as hyper, & Zack didn't say jack shit about honor until he finds out more about Angeal. Just because they all use the same sword & are influenced by each other, that doesn't make them ripoffs...it's part of the story that they're alike, dude. That's how mentoring typically works.Neo Bahamut 23:52, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. GTFO of my FFVII too, Angeal. Zak Undersn 21:08, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

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Professor Hojo v.s. Dr. Cid Edit

Two mad scientists working for the bad guys. Who's done the more evil in their scientific career? - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 02:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. As you can see, it is mine. You can probably tell because I signed my name. I feel sorry for those of you who can't tell. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 02:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Kuzlalala Squee! 06:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. You know, I was thinking Angeal Hojo & Hollander a while back, but this is a much better idea!Neo Bahamut 00:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. I think that's a newer approach to the arena fights, well, since I've been here, at least. I like the idea. Battle of the brainiacs! Whose smarts caused the most damage!? User:Sera89
  5. Cool idea, both good villains. Hojo is the mad scientist with no morals type, and Dr. Cid is the villain-who-thinks-he's-a-good-guy type. Silver Dragon XXVIII 21:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
  6. Because I would vote for Cid (but can't untill this is actully used as a match-up).  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 21:04, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

Fight's already happened. Read those little rules up there to find out if a fight's already been done. Crossed out. —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|20:05, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Faris Scherwiz V.S. Adel Edit

Two manly women, trying to do their best to pass off as the opposite sex. - Blazelord

Support Edit

  1. I support because I suggested it. Blazelord
  2. Sure curious, even though there's an obvious win here. Kuzlalala Squee! 00:13, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Bad joke. And how is Adel trying to pass as a man?--Werefang 14:11, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

If Adel's not trying to pass for a man, she's sure as hell not trying to look more like a woman.Random

Reno & Rude vs. Zorn & Thorn Edit

I'm not sure whether matches like this are allowed, or whether its been done before, but each group of two appears together so often that they practically count as the same person, besides, I'd like to see two groups of "Comic Relief" villains fighting each other, and they seem pretty evenly matched in my book The Man In The Black Cape 18:30, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Support

See above. The Man In The Black Cape 18:39, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Seriously?. There's no contest, although I think T&T funny and have a good music theme NO one likeS them. Plus, R&R are Turks everyone knows how awesome they are. Anony
  2. I'm not opposed to the idea of comic relief battle, but I've never even HEARD of Zorn & Thorn. And the Turks were comic relief in Advent Children. I seem to remember that Reno destroyed all of Sector 7 in the original game....Neo Bahamut 04:53, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Kuzlalala Squee! 07:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. I don't like to, but I reject.

Diablos vs. Hades Edit

The two infrequent summons of darkness. One uses gravity, the other uses poison. --JohnnyC 16:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

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Luso+Adelle vs. Marche+Ritz Edit

I didn't see it before, but Luso vs Marche has been suggested above, so I'm now changing this to the tag team
Reason? To see who pwnz better! Marche & Ritz never truly went to Ivalice, but got more fighting practise in (clans fought for turf), whereas Luso actually went to Ivalice, but had less fighting practise (auctions an' all) -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 21:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Obviously, I (still) support it -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 21:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Meh, why not.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 20:56, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. I rejected Marche vs. Luso. Since this, on the other hand, would get one of my favorite characters in the DNC (for, I believe, the first time...) the result is that I vote for it. And at least two people are here now who aren't idiots trying to get out of an FF world. The.DreadnoughT 01:13, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Looks cool. But I'll vote for the non-androgynous one. Zak Undersn 23:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Sure. I'll support. TheBlueDragoon 02:20, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit



I've separated these out unless the respective users want to transfer their support/reject to the new tag team version.
Support for Luso vs Marche

  1. Now this is what I'm waiting for! Kuzlalala Squee! 09:49, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Reject for Luso vs Marche

  1. This was suggested about half-way up the page.--JohnnyC 02:31, 4 May 2009 (UTC) This rejection is now negated -- SN
  2. Fie. ScatheMote 21:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


Comments Edit

So, Zak Undersn. Which group was the "non-androgynous" one? You know, seeing as how both groups have one male and one female character? The.DreadnoughT 18:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

sky fortress bahamut vs. bahamut Edit

I want to see wich is better, king of the summons or king of the airships as both are pretty poweful and sometimes a plot element.

Support Edit

  1. Interesting. I support.
  2. Beast versus machine...a really big machine...

Reject Edit

  1. I think they're prety unrelated. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 20:45, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Coments Edit

Zeromus v. Diabolos Edit

Description: Battle of the two strong gravity-based summons. Who will crush the other? Will Diablos be able to deliver his Dark Message, or will Zeromus make everything go "Big Bang!"?Devil Breaker 14:40, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. My Idea, so I'll support it
  2. That makes a whole heck of a lot more sense than half these fights. -Visitor

Reject Edit

Comments Edit

Please leave your comments, suggestions, and violent reactions below this sentence. Thank You for your support or reject or comments. Looks like my nomination got doubled, good thing I checked it out.

Neither would crush the other, according to the laws of Physics- technically, they would both crush each other. Two objects with equal gravity have no effect on one another, regardless of how far apart they are, other than accelerating the other object at 9.8m/s2 * (n G's). They would eventually have a really big collision, probably have enough energy to make E=mc2 kick in, generate a shitload of mass, creating the Meteor Sephiroth summons, and also cause an error in time making this same meteor appear in 65,000,000 BC in Chrono Trigger containing the remains, Lavos, dooming two planets at the same time, yet at different times, from a third time, also at the same time...f---, my head hurts! The.DreadnoughT 18:23, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

The Lesson here is that, never use Math with these 2 Summons or else, your head will hurt, or explode... but I still like my idea though, Devil Breaker 02:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, what happens if you try using Math with these two summons is the following: S.E.H.S. The.DreadnoughT 15:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Ritz vs Cecil Edit

A more refined version of "Fencer vs Paladin." (Fencer Character vs. Everything-Knight.) The.DreadnoughT

Support Edit

  1. No, I'm not supporting this because I came up with it.. Yeah, let's go with that... The.DreadnoughT 02:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. No chance for Ritz, but it's something. AnonyMan
  3. Hey, an actual character to relate the class to. Even though fencer is still a FFTactics only job, I can't reject the character v.s. character part you've brought up. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 04:23, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Kuzlalala Squee! 07:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

Thank you, MasterCojugater. Way, way, way, way, way, way, way up there so far I think I might need either an Airship to reach it, in that "Fencer vs Paladin" suggestion (which was me before I registered as a user here,) you mentioned Cecil. Since only giving the Palies a character is unfair, I refined the idea. The.DreadnoughT 02:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Triple Triad vs. Tetra Master Edit

Epic card battle. Ignore the fact that VIII let you mod cards. Which one was a better game? One of them you had to figure out half the rules on your own, but is simple once you do. The other one starts off simple and tells you how to play, but would change the rules on you if you played against too many of the wrong people, and then not tell you what the new rules are. Both relied on the same basic principle.

Support Edit

  1. My idea. Dragonszfriend 12:56, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Well, I support that. Both card games, both important mini-games.
  3. 97.117.184.126 17:25, October 9, 2009 (UTC) cool one from 8 and one from 9

Reject Edit

  1. I think this has already been suggested on another page. It wasn't well supported there either. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. You see, the problem is that these games are Final Fantasy's answer to Pokemon, which failed horribly (at least as a card game) It died, years ago. The.DreadnoughT 02:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Cid Highwind vs. Freya Crescent Edit

Two dragoons with baggage, no airships allowed (except for Cid's Highwind Limit, cheers Dreadnought)... FIGHT!!

Support Edit

  1. Because I put it up Ammyissun 13:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Sounds OK. I havn't seen a dragoon fight yet, so why not? - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 04:18, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Ah, finally a place to use this that fits: "Death from Above!" The.DreadnoughT 20:52, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Ok, Dragoons. As my user name will tell you, I support this matchup. And as Dreadnought put it "Death from Above" How can you not like Dragoons. TheBlueDragoon 03:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. I support. Two famous dragoons.

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Does "No Airships Allowed" mean Cid can't use his final Limit Break, Highwind (where the airship flies over and bombs the enemy back to the Stone Age?) Just checking... The.DreadnoughT 22:19, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

To be honest I forgot about that, so firstly oops and secondly I think I'll have to let him use Highwind otherwise I'd have to start docking Freya abilities too which would kinda nutur the fight a bit really. Ammyissun 10:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Uh...I'm not quite sure how, but I used to dislike Dragoons. I think it had something to do with FFTA limiting an otherwise decent job to the lizards, and the fact that in numbered games, by the time they came down again, I'd killed all the enemies anyway. Just pointing that out; I do like dragoons these days. Though they still are one of the Failed Jobs. The.DreadnoughT 03:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Sephiroth vs Yiazmat Edit

I just get the feeling that this is one time when he can't do his usual "cut into pieces with a single swipe of Masamune"...

Support Edit

  1. I think Sephy'd win, but I'm not sure, and I'd like to find out! -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 21:50, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. On the other hand, Yiazmat's Video-Game-Geneva-Convention-violating amount of HP probably won't work there, either (Supernova just does 48,546,246 damage.) The.DreadnoughT 03:01, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

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  1. This is (probably) as stupid as if there's a Cloud vs. Montblanc fight. Kuzlalala Squee! 23:52, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Yiazmat can beat anything. There's no point in this fight!Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

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@Kuzlalala, why's it stupid? Besides, I wouldn't mind seeing Cloud v Montblanc tbh... -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 20:27, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh really? Then I'll suggest one then. (I still don't like Sephiroth v Yiazmat though.) Kuzlalala Squee! 00:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Vincent Valentine vs Balthier Edit

Well lets see who help the speed and fire power... this is gonna be a one hell of a party!!Well maybe this fight will give be a cowboy fight?? who knows?? ^^

Support Edit

  1. A gun battle between 2 gun-toting characters I know and love (amazingly, considering Balthier is from XII...)? I officially care about this match enough to suppport it. And I think there is a contest. Vincent got a mega popularity boost from AC & Dirge, & is probably more popular than Cloud by now.Neo Bahamut 21:46, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Tricky one. I'd have thought it's one-sided in favour of Vincent, given his Limits, but if it's a straight gunfight (and something is done to allow for Vince's immortality) then I'm all for it! -- Sorceror Nobody Flan who forgot to sign this vote oh so long ago
  3. NB, I think Vincent may well have started off more popular than Cloud. It's not very hard for a VII character (except Yuffie and Cait Sith) to be more popular than Cloud, whose only redeeming quality is swinging around a giant sword. (Just my opinion; he's a useful character, but still an idiot.) Anyway, this should be interesting. The.DreadnoughT 03:17, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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  1. Balthier would win. There really is no contest here at all. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Check the list. It's been done. — YuanSaluto!Acta 11:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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Ninja vs Samurai Edit

Battle of Japanese origin job class. Throw vs Gil Toss. Double Wield vs One Hit KO. Speed vs Power.

Support Edit

  1. Kuzlalala Squee! 11:27, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. I sort of have an idea of who would win, but I still like this fight. ^^--JohnnyC 06:37, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Onion Knight is cool when he's in Ninja mode.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 11:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Ninja would probably win, but it's a good idea. Yzz 02:46, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

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  1. Normally I would be all for a ninja fight, but only half of the samari in the series have had any use, while ninja is one of the best jobs in almost every game. I don't think this will be much of a fight. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 03:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Speed vs. Power, hmm? Sounds something like the idea behind a rather familiar suggestion...Good idea anyway, though. The.DreadnoughT 20:54, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Quistis vs. Freya Edit

they're both the mature woman type of the party. but I guess their charm lies in being tough ladies. let's find out if it's gonna be a battle of looks, race or personalities! :D

Support Edit

  1. Quistis is an Idiot who thinks she's mature and collected. But I like this idea. Anony
  2. I like it!--JohnnyC 06:35, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Yeah, I like both these characters. Terra_Homing 17:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. My idea. thanks for the supports. hope it gets approved. 122.2.195.188 14:32, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. Sure, why not? TheBlueDragoon 05:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
  6. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|02:01, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

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I wouldn't really consider Quistis an idiot. She's just sort of the quirky big sister type of FF8.--JohnnyC 06:36, 10 May 2009 (UTC) Well I just have this idea that they're like the same person reincarnated into very different worlds. don't you think?

Hm, Blue Mage versus Dragoon. Interesting. Just glad its not Kimahri. TheBlueDragoon 18:51, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Cloud Strife vs Montblanc Edit

(I have no idea what should be the description.) Kuzlalala Squee! 00:14, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. In the other hand, I think this vote would come in handy. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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  1. This is a fight between one of the icons of Final Fantasy with a huge ass sword against a little moogle who's only purpose in his game is for Marche's emotional support. For some reason, I don't think this fight will work out that well. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 00:58, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Like I said, Sephiroth vs. Yiazmat is as stupid as this. Kuzlalala Squee! 12:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

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Ninja of Wind, you forgot his other purpose: providing a single brief moment of comic relief when the player lets him die (or in my case, causes a friendly-fire..."accident"...oops...) in a Jagd. The.DreadnoughT 17:46, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

See, that will only happen once and after that, you can't repay him for all the times he's ruined the plot for you. I like to get him to level 50 by having him and another moogle cast the smile ability on each other over and over again, then have fun kicking his ass with all my other characters and gaining levels at the same time. After I am happy with the party I have, then I will "accidentally" look the other way when my meteor spell misfires. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 22:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
It's really just too unfortunate that Montblanc isn't a character in Chrono Trigger as well, or, even better, if the Time Gates would appear in FFTA; you could go "blue-on-blue" Montblanc, go back in time, reach the time when you killed him, stop whoever from killing Montblanc, then kill Montblanc, and continually repeat this cycle, for endless comedy. This is even better than your method- only yours actually works. Hell, they even have Time Magic in FFTA; time travel in CT was possible WITHOUT MAGIC AT ALL. (other than whatever was left in Schala's pendant from when it was used with the Mammon Machine in 12000 BC.) The.DreadnoughT 22:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I still don't see how Seph v Yiaz is similar to (I disagree with "as bad as") this... -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 13:03, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I fail to see the similarity too. Well, Kuzlala, you brought this up. You have an answer? If so, please, let us know. The.DreadnoughT 02:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I think it has something to do with the fact that both Suggestions have a character who are Colossal Giants of Popularity in one corner against another whose lucky enough to even be heard of... at least that's what I see is wrong with both. Anony
OK, Sephiroth is Cloud's enemy, while Yiazmat is Montblanc's enemy. To make it more sense, Cloud wanted revenge on Sephiroth because he killed Aeris/th. While Montblanc wanted revenge on Yiazmat because he killed Montblanc's master. OK, maybe Sephiroth vs. Yiazmat isn't as bad after all. Kuzlalala Squee! 09:55, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Cloud wanted revenge on Sephiroth long before that. The Nibelheim Incident, to be precise. And Sephiroth vs. Yiazmat doesn't make much sense. I mean, Yiazmat is a superboss, but otherwise, it's just a generic monster. Sephiroth is an actual villain, with motives, storyline significance, and a personality. Besides, he's much more popular (due in a large part to those reasons), so he'll blow Yiazmat away.Neo Bahamut 21:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
You're forgetting that a lot of people are fed up with seeing Sephiroth in the DNC, so they might vote against him for that very reason! XD -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 22:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Which is, if anything, even more of a point to not do this. You shouldn't rely on "hate votes," regardless of whether or not they would work, which I don't think they would. Why not just pair Yiazmat up with another superboss, like a weapon, or Nemesis?Neo Bahamut 00:30, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey, there's another connection: Chocobo-Hair vs Chocobo-Hair! The.DreadnoughT 21:02, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Did you got that idea from my userpage? Anyway, it makes me feel like i wanna support this suggestion. Kuzlalala Squee! 12:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Go ahead. At this rate, by next week, this will look genius compared to the ideas some people have been coming up with. *CoughSuperbossCoughFightsCough*? "Sony vs. Nintendo" and "Cid v Cid v Cid v Cid...v Al-Cid" are two other examples. (If it gets chosen I'm voting in advance: Montblanc, on account of at least I can permanently kill him off. Cloud, on the other hand, just keeps coming back, the stupid [continues just below audibility]...) The.DreadnoughT 18:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Kain Highwind vs. Auron Edit

Two of the most popular, coolest, and best characters created by Square.

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  1. My idea User:FFKnight01

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I dunno. Seems a little one-sided due to Auron's winning streak. --Teletroid

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Ultimecia-Griever vs The Undying Edit

Two main villians fusion together with another being to make then stronger.

Support Edit

  1. My idea Mr_Darkside 10:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Sounds good to me.Neo Bahamut 00:31, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Yeah, I'm for this one. George B. (talk) 04:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. I like. Good matchup TheBlueDragoon 18:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. I think this is a cool idea :) BoAKaNRikkusmallsig 02:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

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General Leo vs. Captain Lucil Edit

I think this could be an unusual but interesting battle. Both are strong leaders in their own way. George B. (talk) 04:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

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Palom vs. Kytes Edit

Two young Black Mages, with very diffrent personalities. (Plus, this would be the first fight with a Revenat Wings only char.)Xepscern Highwind

Support Edit

  1. I support! Cluna 06 00:43, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

The "Support, Reject, and Comments" sections are somewhat important, Xepscern Highwind. Just thought I'd mention it. The.DreadnoughT 14:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I spaced out and forgot them.Xepscern Highwind

Dr. Cid V.S. Judgemaster Cid Edit

They both are Cids, they both are antagonists for most of the game if not all of it, and they both have a son that is a main character. Who will win? - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 20:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Well, when I found out my Dr. Hojo V.S. Dr. Cid idea had already been done, this was the next best thing. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 20:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. A Cid battle! You got my support on this Ninja, for what that's worth. TheBlueDragoon 04:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. I'll support it...but since when was Judgemaster Cid an antagonist? The.DreadnoughT 00:18, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

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job vs. Unique Character vs. Free Growth Edit

Description Edit

  1. job system: See job system article: Basically a character selects a job (whether temporarily or permanently) where each job has its own strengths and weaknesses and learns its own skillsets. The games that use this system are listed in the article.
  2. Unique Character System: Games where each character is unique and brings unique strengths, weaknesses, and abilities to the table. Often these characters are certain archetypes similar to classes, such as Garnet/Yuna/Rosa/Porom being similar to the White Mage class, etc. Take for example the casts of IV, IX, X, and to a lesser extent VI (unique character abilities).
  3. Free Growth System: Games where the character growth is relatively free of restrictions and basically up to the player to dictate. Take, for example, the Materia system of VII, the Draw and Junction systems of VIII, the License Board of XII, and to a lesser extent the Esper (Final Fantasy VI) system of VI. The stat growth system of II might also be considered in this category.

Support Edit

  1. Nokareon: Supporting my own idea. I felt like bringing a new idea to the table. I know in the past we had a three way battle between the battle systems (Turn based, ATB, Real Time) so I know that 3-way fights are possible and that there is precedent for broad topics such as these. So, I thought, why not do a battle of the best type of character growth system?
  2. This is actually a really good idea. Thoughtful, original, ubiquitious...you have my support.Neo Bahamut 06:27, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Sweet idea! Free growth FTW (except for Junctioning, which sucks) -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 18:27, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|16:29, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. Well, if everyone else can support it...- Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 21:58, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
  6. If I'm going to bother having all these opinions about even just one instance of two of these being combined, well, I guess that means I support it, right? The.DreadnoughT 02:19, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
  7. Sounds like a good idea to me. TheBlueDragoon 04:03, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
  8. AnonyMan 22:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

  • Sure, the FFX characters start with their individual conformity to a job archetype, but once they've gone round the Sphere Grid they're all basically the same apart from their Overdrives (and Yuna's Aeons). So while I don't disagree that it's "Unique Character"-type, I think it's rather closer to "Free Growth"-type overall. -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 18:27, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Nokareon - Yeah, I know that. I would still say that for all practical purposes it's Unique Character type for a few reasons. 1) Most people will probably finish the game without going into the other character's areas 2) Stat and Equip-wise they tend to be geared towards their respective roles anyway and 3)for the large majority of the game they will be unique characters, unless you do massive power-leveling. If enough people want me to classify FFX as Free Growth (or a split between the two), I'll switch it, but I really don't think it ought to be.
  • Actually, the unique character system is actually an unchangable job system. In 9, Zidane was officially a theif and in 4, Rose was officially a White mage. This battle should just be Job versus Free growth.--Werefang 15:59, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Nokareon - That may be true, but the very unchanging nature of it makes it completely different from a job selecting system. Whereas in V I could make all my characters, say, Freelancer + Dual Wield + X-fight, or in FFTA2 all Fighter + Parivir, in a game like IV or IX I have to make use of each character's unique strengths and weaknesses to win. All in all, I still think the Unique Character System is different enough from the job system to deserve its own place.

[Prepares for Neo Bahamut rearing his Grammar-Nazi-istic head about this] Wouldn't most of the characters from VII be more the "Unique Character System" than Free-whatchamacallit? The Materia doesn't define people's Jobs, because anyone can use any piece of Materia (though some are better at it than others) You could give Cid the Mega-Summon materia (if you ever manage to get that much AP, that is...) but he'd still be a Dragoon, not a Summoner. The.DreadnoughT 20:37, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The only one who would be unique character is Aerith. Because no matter what you do, you cannot make her a good hysical attacker. On the other hand, even she can become a black mage, or a white mage, or whatever. Cid would, in fact, be a summoner, because that's what his abilities do. So what if he can jump? There's a jump materia in Crisis Core, but Zack definately is NOT a Dragoon. He also has several different types of Limit Breaks, ranging from magic-like attacks to summons. I don't even see how you can argue that they're bound by classes. They just...aren't. The fact that anyone can use any materia is WHY this is free development. They aren't all fighters/chemists because they only have "attack" and "item," naturally. I fail to see why their limits should factor into this any differently.Neo Bahamut 23:06, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Nokareon - Neo Bahamut pretty much covered it. Although the limits do give the characters in VII some measure of uniqueness, the prevailing materia system is still free development. For example, although Yuffie may be a "ninja", she won't have the Throw command unless you give her the materia for it. Someone like Cloud may be physical attack oriented, but if you load him with magic materia the increase of magic stats and decrease in physical stats will make even Cloud better suited to be a mage. Basically, although limits do offer slight differences between the characters, the freedom that the materia system offers goes far beyond jobs or unique characters.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Since the stats aren't hugely different for any character, and the limits aren't really their traditional mode of attack, neither can be counted. 'Sides, when does Yuffie have ninja, or even thief-like limits? And what the Hell does that make Vincent? Not trying to be a douche, just hammer home the point that the ability system determines class, & in this case, the ability system is materia, thusly free development. Do have to be a BIT of a douche, though: Cloud's physical & magical stats are BOTH really high.Neo Bahamut 00:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Let's see...Cloud is a failed Sephiroth-Clone-After-Birth-Because-Hojo's-A-Jackass (explaining the high phyiscal and magical stats;) Vincent is a Gunner-Who-Can-Morph-Because-Hojo's-A-Douche, Yuffie's stats force her in that direction (Highest innate Speed, 2nd or 3rd best Luck and an overall lack of physical defense; her physical stats imply "Fighter" (not the generic group, the specific job- "all offense and no defense melee combatant" type) but she's too fast (and, in fact, has too little physical defense) for it, and since when have non-Ninjas used Shuriken? And the manual specifically says Yuffie's a Ninja, so Yuffie is therefore a Ninja, unless you want to debate whether or not the FFVII manual is a trustable source of information. Aeris' strength is Magic overall and White Magic (we all do know she's a White Mage, right?) specifically; Tifa's is her Limit Breaks and physical attack with balanced everything else; Vincent's strength is, well, he's f***ing Vincent; Cloud has the strength of being a Primary Protagonist (which is almost a job of its own;) Barret has some Long Range abilities and decent stats except Speed and Evasion (ie, the closest thing a human got in VII to being a Bangaa was Barret;) Cait Sith doesn't really have any strengths (well, Luck, to some extent, and a shitload of HP, but he's like Cyan- regardless of strengths, he still sucks in battle.) Red XIII's strength was that his Limits tend to heal him while damaging them, and decent Magic stats...and I told you I was prepared for your Grammar-Nazi-istic presence, by the way. You should have expected this. And what, by the way, is a "hysical"? If I knew what that was, I'd go play through VII again, and make Aeris good at it just to prove you wrong. The.DreadnoughT 02:17, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Physical. The "P" key stuck. I'm sure you COULD make her somewhat competent with physical attacks, but she'll always be leaning towards magic, so meh. And the problem is that you're bouncing all around with your standards, here. Cid can be called a dragoon because his limits include jump attacks, while Yuffie is decided by her weapon. Some, like Vincent, you don't even name an actual class for. And occupation=/=job class. Vincent is "unemployed." I'm pretty sure that doesn't have anything to do with his fighting style. And then there are the Turks. Their jobs are all "Turk," yet they have multiple different fighting styles & weapons. Like I said before: Even with the wildest stretches of the imagination, there is just NO way to argue that FFVII has distinct classes, at least not effectively.Neo Bahamut 03:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
So Vincent isn't a Gunner? Being Vincent is basically a job in and of itself; same with being the Main Character (who generally has the best overall stats of playable characters in a game) And I judge Yuffie by Yuffie's limits less because only one of them is a direct physical attack (whereas all of Cloud's are direct attacks with his weapon, for example; then his limits are fair game.) The one Limit Break Yuffie has that directly involves her weapon is her first one, and its very ninjalike. Her stats scream "ninja," her weapon and the way she uses it in her first Level 1 limit break scresm "Ninja," the way she falls from the ceiling of the airship Highwind's cockpit screams "ninja..." Not everyone in VII really fits into any one class, except Vincent and maybe Aeris, but that doesn't affect everything. When I judge by limits, its when the limit-break is really more how their fighting style is than their physical attacks. Dragoons don't need to jump. They can but don't have to, it just makes them more effective. (Except in FFVI, where Jump replaces Fight, and so Dragoons actually do need to jump, but VII doesn't give you an item to allow Jumping.) Cid fits reasonably well into the Dragoon class, and Vincent (obviously) is a Gunner. Barret usually acts like a Gunner, but sometimes more like a Warrior. Yuffie is a Ninja, and sometimes acts like a Red Mage. Tifa is a Monk, but at least once got called a Gambler (though I don't agree at all; VII's Gambler was Cait Sith; Tifa's limit break system was VII's version of the Blitz command in VI.) So, no, only Aeris really, really fits into a single job class, but only Red XIII can't really be defined at all. Yuffie is a Ninja, Vincent and Barret are gunners, the Turks are whatever their fighting style implies (I've only played the main game, no spinoffs; I have watched AC, but that isn't a game,) even if that implies that Elena is a Juggler. It's close enough (all she really does in VII is throw things at you and cause Confusion, which accurately describes a Juggler.) Cloud is some form of Warrior. (I'm almost tempted to say Paladin, but he's not a Paladin. He's a Main Character (Sword).) Tifa is a Monk, Cait Sith is a Gambler (mostly;) Cid is a Dragoon, and Aeris is a White Mage. Oh, and it's a good thing you can Morph Heavy Tanks into Power Sources, because when I start my second from-the-start-playthrough of VII, I'm going to make Aeris a physical fighter in the front row. Just to prove that I can. The.DreadnoughT 21:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Nokareon- If that's the case, then Squall in VIII should only be a physical attacker, since he uses a sword, has physically-geared limits, and is a "main protagonist"; Quistis should be a mage since her limits are blue magic. Never mind that the Junction system lets you craft your characters however you see fit, stat and ability-wise. In VII many of my team went against what you just said their "class" entailed their primary use to be. For example? I used Yuffie mostly as a mage, since she could be in the back rank without getting any damage reduction, and mages belong in the back row already, so it worked quite well. Contrary to what your definitions of them are, my final party included both Cloud and Cid as mages; actually, my only physical attacker for the latter half of the game (post-Ultima/Comet) was Vincent, due to Deathblow/Sniper/Added Cut combos. And also, out of curiosity, just how often are you getting limit breaks since they seem to be so important that they define the uses of a character for you? I was getting limits maybe once, twice maximum, per character in any particular boss battle, and almost never in the battles in between. Even if you put Fury on your characters, limits aren't going to make that much of a difference, especially in the later battles of the game.
Nokareon, there's a status effect called "Fury." It doubles how fast your Limit breaks. And you can go Manipulate an enemy to attack a specific character to make them Limit Break faster (a very useful trick when trying to get more of them, because half the limit breaks are learned by using the previous one X times) and I tend to put everyone in the Front Row who's not Long Range (Vincent, Yuffie, and Aeris while she lives.) Coincidentally, my main party is Cloud, Yuffie and Tifa, so with everyone but Yuffie in the Front Row, and everyone Furious, I get limit breaks about once every 15 minutes per character (the Dreadnought never runs, even from Master Tonberries, and not even from the Midgar Zolom when only one character is still alive, and with only 1 HP. And I tend to have the Encount. Up materia on someone, because the Experience, Limit Meter filling, and awesome music is worth the annoyance of stupid shits with 20HP trying to stop a level 85+ party) I separate the Materia from the fighting style in a character's job; it's a relic of the first FF game I played having been FFTA. I really associate two jobs, and not one, with most characters, and in VII I consider whatever the setup for Materia you gave them to be their secondary job. Maybe now you and Grammar Fascist will know where I'm coming from. (And you should probably sign at the end of the edit, like everyone else; the name at the start, like I just used yours, often means who you're talking to. I understand what you're doing, but it may confuse a few people into at first thinking you just replied to your own comment.) The.DreadnoughT 21:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
You can consider them however you want. The fact is that you have no uniform way of judging classes, thereby making your point moot. If the categorization is arguable, then it's arguable. If it's not, then there has to be some single, unbiased way of sorting everyone into a class that works every time. The ONLY way to accomplish that is with what materia they have equipped.Neo Bahamut 02:14, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I thought I made it clear that I did judge them uniformly- on fighting style. I only count Limit Breaks that directly involve using the character's weapon (I'm no longer arguing the point about Aeris, because we have all agreed Aeris is, in fact, a white mage.) Materia doesn't count, because it can be removed. Limit Breaks and the specific class of weapon they use can't be, and those more or less define their fighting style. (How they implement a Deathblow or Slash-All attack requires materia, so I won't count it, but it still doesn't change what I think. All those attacks seem to match, too.) Now, before we fill this whole page with another debate over this, if you are going to reply, NB, then use my talk page. I get tired of the ten minutes it takes to process clicking Preview. The.DreadnoughT 03:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Negatory. I'm actually quite tired of this argument. I find it ridiculous. Materia is the primary gameplay element, you can't just "throw it away." ESPECIALLY not if you account for their fighting styles which, in the game, are decided by YOU. And again, they aren't all chemists because they can use items, or whatever. This argument was over whether or not FFVII was a free development system. We've more than proven that. The stats are just not that diverse. Yes, Yuffie has the highest speed & luck. Not by much. One Speed Plus materia, and she's out of the running. Sure, you can argue that the FF VII characters are INTENDED to have class X or Y, but this is an argument about gameplay. And the gameplay is determined by the player. Ergo, this is a free development system. I legitimately do not care whether or not you consider materia to be the deciding factor in whether or not Tifa is a monk. It's very obvious to me that you're not budging on this. But the fact remains that she's a monk in appearance only--what she actually does is decided by the player, via materia. Therefore, the gameplay system is free development.[/argument]Neo Bahamut 03:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Look what I found!: Aerith being "hysical" (a.k.a. physical) I would say case in point here since I don't think anyone would dispute the fact that Aerith's not made to be a physical character, and yet here she is. However, I myself also grow somewhat weary of the debate, and I'll probably be keeping things how they are now unless others support changing the classification. One final point though: Let's try looking at this from another angle. The way I see it, the development system is less derived from how the character is used and more from how the character gains new abilities (and to a lesser extent stats). For instance, in Unique character system the characters more or less each have their own sets of skills, while in a job system the skillsets the character gains is dictated on what job they are currently in. In free development, the way I'm seeing it, the player has full control over the skillsets that the characters get. In VII's case, Materia granted that measure of full control. So that's my reasoning. -Nokareon
Okay, NB, I'll agree to disagree. Though Sephiroth, at least, can actually just throw materia away (and hit Cloud in the head with it, which was a pretty good throw, since finding his head and hitting that, rather than his gravity-defying hair is difficult.) Actually, anyone playing FFVII can - if you really want, you can throw away materia (though there's no point, as the limit of pieces of it you can have is ridiculous, especially given that you can sell it, and a mastered piece of Deathblow materia is worth 700000 gil.) And, Nokareon, you have me there, though the Materia doesn't affect which stats they gain when they level up. Jobs usually also affect how stats change on level-up. The.DreadnoughT 20:07, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
He hit Cloud in the stomach. But I'm glad we're agreeing to disagree, as this is really quite tedious.Neo Bahamut 03:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Though the camera angle makes it hard to tell, from the way Cloud Genesi recoils (edited; who the fuck changed my wording?), in the PC version Sephiroth apparently has a better throw. He hit Cloud in the face, though unfortunately he forgot to impale Cloud with the Masamune on the way out. The.DreadnoughT 22:54, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Though I haven't seen the cutscene in forever, I'm pretty sure I remember Cloud grabbing his stomach after being hit.Neo Bahamut 01:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Though I don't want to get in an argument over whether the PC or PS versions of VII are considered correct, which one do you have, NB? They fixed some of the Engrish Transfuckups [English Translations Error] in VII's PC version, so they might have altered a cutscene, too. The.DreadnoughT 01:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
PS. I won't get ito an argument either, I'll just say that, overall they're the same game, but sometimes one does something better, and sometimes the other does something better. These are usually just over errors, such as Engrish and glitches.Neo Bahamut 02:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
The PC version corrects the Engrish? But the Engrish is great! Aeris's "This guy are sick" is one of the all time classic lines from the game! P.S. can't we just say that Sephiroth, in an act of pure reality-bending awesomeness, hits Cloud both in the head and the stomach? That solves the debate, and is a really cool image to boot -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 21:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, unfortunately, they corrected "This guy are sick," but not most of the important ones: "Attack when its tail's up! [...] *Game Over*"; "Midgar Zolom [...] Beta [...] *Game Over*"; "Typhon". One of the useful corrections was in the Battle Square: "Off Course" (which leads to a WTF!?) became "Of course" (which made sense.) The.DreadnoughT 03:14, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Midgar vs. Zanarkand Edit

Two hugh, high tech cities that have been destroyed (also were you first start off when playing FFVII & FFX)

Support Edit

  1. My Idea. Mr_Darkside 16:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. This is an okay idea, but really, Midgar had more in common with Bevelle. Zanarkand didn't have as many secrets (underground, no less), and they didn't use machina for weapons. Still, the cities are architectually similar, and both very interesting setting-wise, so supported, nonetheless.Neo Bahamut 23:56, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

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I vote against this fight solely because it would most likely be one sided, because there are way more FFVII fans than FFX. TheBlueDragoon 05:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Why is everyone so quick to reject anything on the grounds that there are a lot of FFVII fans? Seriously, in Jenova vs. Sin, Sin was doing very well. In Yevon vs. Shinra, a lot of people liked Yevon, and the only way that became a landslide is because there was just no comparison between them--Shinra was way more developed, and encompassed a larger amount of fields. There are a lot of FFX fans, as well. And a lot of people who either dislike FFVII, or don't like to see it in the DNC. And, since this is against the cities, maybe people like the look or idea of Zanarkand, more? I know I do. It has freakin' waterfalls goin' down its buildings! Who WOULDN'T want that? And it is ruled by summoners, which are notorious for being awesome. In conclusion: Maybe a fight WILL be a landslide in VII's favor. But you shouldn't be so quick to assume that it'll be JUST because the winner was from VII. Remember Sephiroth vs. Kefka? Hojo vs. Dr. Cid? Cloud vs. Balthier? All losses for VII.Neo Bahamut 03:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

You make very valid points. I'm somewhat new here, so I don't really know all the past fights. Sure I could dig up the archives. I mean, my username is based on Kain Highwind, but I like Tidus more. I despise VII with a passion, I just know how rabid the fanboys and fangirls can get. TheBlueDragoon 05:55, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
To be completely honest, I've never seen a VII fan that was rabid, unless it was to another VII fan shipping an opposing couple. VII fans seem to keep to their selves but annoy those around them, at their extreme. Other FF games have fans who are a bit more rabid, and still others, I doubt the existance of extremist fans for them. Anyway, just please tell me you don't despise VII BECAUSE of the fanbase....Neo Bahamut 20:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I just dislike it because it I'm not too fond of most of the characters. I couldn't connect with them the way I can most other FF games. 71.106.152.201 15:30, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough.Neo Bahamut 00:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
  1. Hey! Tell it to all VII fans! Aerith Gainsborough is a slut!!!Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Illua vs. the Neukhia Edit

Judging by her comments at the beginning of the last storyline quest, her intention was to summon the Neukhia in order to defeat it and be practically worshipped as a result. Since Clan Gully doesn't give her the chance to fight it, I find myself wondering how well she'd have done -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 19:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

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  1. I think she'd win. I found her to be a much harder boss than the Neukhia. Then again, she had an endless supply of lackeys in the last fight against her, so she may not be so tough -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 19:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. You get my vote because of the above average reason why, I'm not pure evil.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 09:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

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Kain Highwind versus Auron Edit

Two of the biggest badasses in the entire series. One jumps high into the air and one cleaves through armor with a gigantic sword. TheBlueDragoon 02:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


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  1. It's not like I don't like the characters, it's that the characters have been overused in the DNC. I think Auron has been fully covered for now and forever and shall be banned from all future DNC matchups because people are tired of seeing him kick so much ass. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 00:46, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. I still don't see what's so badass about Kain...he's cool, but he's not Sliced Bread. Auron's real lame anyway. AnonyMan 22:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Hey...just a second here. That's the second time I passed this suggestion (and identically worded, too. Not like the previous one was even "Auron vs Kain", they have the exact same title.) Should we move one into the other, or what? The.DreadnoughT 03:37, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I don't know why that happened. When I originally checked the suggestions, that one wasn't there. There's been a dupe in the suggestionsg box I believe. TheBlueDragoon 02:48, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Irvine vs Barret Edit

Showing some love for the least loved gunners.

Support Edit

  1. -+DeadlySlashSword+ 17:21, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Damn it, I was going to suggest something like this. Oh well. At least someone put it up. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 23:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. How could you not like Irvine? =O Anyways, I like this. --JohnnyC 23:34, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Wow, i can vote on games that i've actually played this time?... Does Toad still work in this universe? --Gerdat14 22:24, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
  5. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|16:29, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
  6. Only because I like the Mr. T lookalike and the cocky cowboy gunner. TheBlueDragoon 03:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

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Diablos vs. Hades Edit

I suggested this further up, a while back, but I'm pretty sure it just got overlooked among everything else, so I'm reposting it. Anyways, they're the the two infrequent summons of darkness. One uses gravity, the other uses poison.--JohnnyC 01:41, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|16:29, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Sure, as long as they can find a good picture of Hades.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 16:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. Terra_Homing 22:48, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

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Squall Leonhart Vs. Cloud Srife Edit

Both Characters are Famous, boh are memorable, both introverts, but who will prevail?

Comments Edit

Okay, first, format your suggestions right. Second, there is NO way this hasn't been done before. And, while you're at it, check the one below, 'cause I think it's great, but I don't want to support it if it's been done already, for obvious reasons.Neo Bahamut 08:40, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Chocobo vs. Moogle Edit

Both are Final Fantasy Staples, both cut and charming, both have had their time to shine in the series but the real question is, who is more preferred, the multi-tasking support of moogles or the no random encounter of the chocobos???

Adelle vs Sherlotta Edit

Kitty girls! Rawr. >:3 —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|16:29, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Kuzlalala Squee! 13:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
  2.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 12:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

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  1. -+DeadlySlashSword+ 06:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Sorry, but I don't think a lot of people know who Adelle is, and I sure don't even know the other person. Plus, Adelle isn't a "kitty girl." Her nickname is Adelle the Cat. TheBlueDragoon 01:56, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Though Adelle isn't really a kitty girl, at least she has some traits with a cat. Like a pink strand of cloth as her "tail" and her ribbon as her "ears". She also has great agility (like a cat), cat-like eyes and a black cat face on her clothing. Kuzlalala Squee! 11:44, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

This I know. My rejection was because they're too obscure. I like the game, I just never even heard of the other person until I saw this fight. TheBlueDragoon 22:19, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Er, they're female Zidanes? As in they both have tails...? Tails are cool...BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Mog Vs. Red XIII Edit

Battle of the non-human playable characters! TheBlueDragoon 00:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Might as well support my own, if no one else will. TheBlueDragoon 19:13, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. Ah, what the Hell, all things considered, this is a pretty good match. But since you checked the archives, if you could please tell me approximately when that fight took place, it would be very much appreiated. Thanks.Neo Bahamut 23:55, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. I vote for this. If it gets chosen, I vote for the playable character I never got to use in VI, because I gave up looking for him. Go kick dog-whacko's tail, Mog! (and preferably by jumping with a Pearl Lance.) The.DreadnoughT 03:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. Why is there pigs flying outside my window?  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 09:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

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  1. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Kimahri seems like a better choice than Mog. Entirely up too you, I just don't see how a Moogle is much like a cat/dog thing with a flaming tail and unusually high intellect.Neo Bahamut 01:24, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I was considering Kimarhi, but decided against it as I don't really like him. TheBlueDragoon 03:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I don't really like him either, the point is that he makes more sense.Neo Bahamut 07:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Point taken. I'll suggest another fight then. TheBlueDragoon 18:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
May as well not put Kimahri into whatever it is, since he's this week's fight.Neo Bahamut 22:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I just checked the archives. Red versus Kimahri has already been done anyway. TheBlueDragoon 19:14, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Wait. How is a Ronso more like a talking cat/dog thign with a flaming tail and unusually high intellect than a Moogle? They're all sentient, talking animals. Hell, Red isn't even Biped like the other. AnonyMan

Morphological similarities, ferocious fighting style, portrayed as being unusually intelligent, out-of-place structure (the horn/flaming tail), etc. As for the bipedal remark, humans are considered apes, and most apes are technically quadrapeds. When you compare a moogle to either of them, it looks like something they would EAT.Neo Bahamut 00:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure how he's more like Red. I just like the fight. Mog has no real story value in FFVI, and Kimarhi isn't a front runner either. The Ronso rarely speaks in FFX. TheBlueDragoon 00:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


Hey, I've just edited your support, rejects, comments header because you should only use the two equals for your nomination, and three equals for support reject comment etc. hope you'll understand. Devil Breaker 04:34, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

My mistake. I'm still relatively new, but thanks all the same TheBlueDragoon 05:39, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

It says week 86 Neo. I wasn't around then, nor was I even aware of the FFWiki's existence TheBlueDragoon 00:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

That isn't why I asked. I just want to hunt it down & read it.Neo Bahamut 01:15, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, that I wouldn't know where to find it. I'm still trying to learn about this site.TheBlueDragoon 01:19, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
DNC. Page bottom. Archives. Can't miss 'em.Neo Bahamut 02:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, there. Duh. Thanks.TheBlueDragoon 03:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
No prob.Neo Bahamut 05:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Funny how this fight is actually getting support. TheBlueDragoon 18:01, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

The pigs are flying because Kane dies in life. Wait, what? I mean hell caught fire. No, that can't be right... The.DreadnoughT 23:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Haha. Is this fight really that strange? TheBlueDragoon 23:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Maybe. Do you know who Kane is? Because I don't mean the Dragoon. The.DreadnoughT 03:00, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
There are a lot of Kain/Kane/Cain/Caines. If I had to guess, the wrestler. But I could be way off. TheBlueDragoon 04:31, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Right you are (about being way off. I don't watch scripted shit that pretends to be a real sport - the last one is the non-sarcastic link.) I meant this Kane, the seemingly-immortal leader of the Brotherhood of Nod. He's been "killed" three times, and yet still refuses to ...be a memory. If you've ever seen my talk bubble, I quoted this Kane when I said "who controls the present, commands the past. Who commands the past, conquers the future." Kane lives! <Insert Nod Slogan Here>! The.DreadnoughT 02:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
That was my second guess honestly. Command and Conquer. TheBlueDragoon 02:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Shinryu Versus Omega Edit

Battle of the Final Fantasy V superbosses. Dragon versus Machine. TheBlueDragoon 00:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Two big baddies goin at it, hell yeah74.193.194.64 02:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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Necron vs. Cloud of Darkness Edit

The two most pointless (story-wise) final bosses in FF history collide. (I know this is late but I just realized this fight would be fanboy/fangirl-proof.)

Support Edit

  1. Because Square should have done better with these charcters.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 12:46, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. But NoW, you could in turn say the same thing with Necron. Necron is a seraph of death (At least in my opinion) who decided to wipe out the world and start over because of the incident that just happened. He also, couldn't die. (P.S. 'That guy' was Xandes.) -Visitor
  3. I don't think there are pointless, but i suggested that battle too oce, so I give support.

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  1. Cloud of Darkness did so have some point in being the final boss. That guy who summoned her(whose name i forget) was given the "gift" of mortality by his master, so the final boss couldn't be anyone who you know can die, it had to be someone who you had almost no chance of beating, but would still have to fight anyway just to save your world. Thus, the Cloud of Darkness was needed. By the way, I am rejecting because this is just another "battle of the most hated". - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 23:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. The bosses weren't pointless, as Ninja of Wind put it. I think this fight is kinda pointless, but hey, it may get some support. TheBlueDragoon 00:44, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

  1. "Most pointless" is what it says. -Visitor

Yuffie vs. Shadow Edit

How's that saying go..."If at first you don't succeed..."
then get Sephiroth to help you The.DreadnoughT 03:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. "Once again, the person who suggested this fight is not present under Support" The.DreadnoughT 03:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
  2. You got my support on this Dreadnought. Two ninjas. I'm down with that. TheBlueDragoon 03:40, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
  3. (Sigh...)I'll give you my support for the ninja battle, but I still wish my Shadow v.s. Amarant battle had been used instead of sitting in the archives right now. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 22:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
  4. I'll give it my support.. -Visitor
  5. I can't see Yuffie winning if people think about it, but there'll likely be a ton of people who're just like "ZOMG FFVII!!!!!" -Nokareon
  6. Two not entirely likeable ninjas, it's a good idea :) Hamfruitcake 09 22:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  7. Both selfish and arrogant, but have a softer side if you look hard enough. "Riven" 89.195.65.97 02:53, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 09:36, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

(The reason for the subtitle involves my having suggested this before the last archiving. It didn't get chosen, but had some decent support, so...) The.DreadnoughT 03:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

How can you not like Shadow? He's FFVI's Resident Badass. TheBlueDragoon 05:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Nokareon: I have never seen anyone, and I include myself, seriously vote "ZOMG! FFVII!" (or anything along those lines.) I do, however, see quite a few people who continually complain about these elusive "VII fanboys." Not, of course, that they aren't out there; just that if they are, I have never encountered one. The.DreadnoughT 02:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Ashe vs. Beatrix Edit

Both are hardened warriors that grow softer as time passes on, and both, in the end, grow respect for the other main characters. Wee187 01:12, 03 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. I wouldn't call Ashe a "hardened warrior" as such, but the rest is a good idea -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 12:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Sure, why not. It will give me an excuse to vote against Beatrix. TheBlueDragoon 17:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Beatrix's buzz has died out over the years, Ashe might have a chance...not that I'll vote for her. I can't stand her. AnonyMan 22:07, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Kuzlalala Squee! 02:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Beatrix, w00t Zak Undersn 20:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. I LOVE BEATRIX!!!!!!!!!!! NeoExdeath 07:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
  7. 8bit 22:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  8. I was going to reject because I really don't see enough of a connection between the two, but this is a prime example of why rejecting something because it'll be a "Landslide" is a bad idea. People on both sides are saying their girl would win hands down... They can't both be right! "Riven" 89.195.65.97 02:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

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  1. Ashe would win.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 09:36, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. The strange one is right. Master Conjurer 08:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Beatrix is too awesome to be paired up with that mini-skirt wearing skank. (Yayz, I'mma starting a flame war nao! :D) —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. i dont think so, well, in my opinion, i don't like a battle between a playable character and a non-playable character. -deathripper17

Comments Edit

I was kinda tempted to reject because Beatrix will probably win hands down -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 12:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Not if I have my say xD I love Ashe soo much =3 though Beatrix is amazing too, she can't beat Ashe. - wee187


If this fight gets chosen, I'm gonna have one hell of a time choosing who to vote for. Two of my fave characters. TheBlueDragoon 03:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Beatrix beat 100 enemies hands-down. Ashe... bitchslapped Vaan? Zak Undersn 15:05, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Odin vs Kain Highwind Edit

"Divide [in half] and Conquer" vs "Death from Above." The.DreadnoughT 01:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Well, I came up with it. The.DreadnoughT 01:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Why do I think this is actually a good matchup? TheBlueDragoon 01:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  3.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 09:34, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Interesting...- Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 16:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Well I like it, even if you do want to crap in my magic pot.Immune to stop 03:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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  1. Pretty sure that's gonna be slaughter. If actual characters can't even beat Kain most of the time, I doubt Odin will be able to. -Nokareon
  2. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Just guessing...Kain Highwind? or maybe that Odin is the closest Summons get to being a Dragoon...? The.DreadnoughT 01:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Odin is one of my favorite summons, and as you guessed, Kain. You got it right. TheBlueDragoon 18:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Chaos,Omega Weiss VS. Sephiroth,Genesis Edit

Who do you think would win in a fight in this strange and devastating Tag team match up? No real connection just an all out tag team brawl.74.193.194.64 07:06, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Unorthodox teams. Still, I'd like to see this. Why not?205.242.95.142 07:12, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. im the one who suggested it74.193.194.64 01:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Terra_Homing 06:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  2.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 09:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. ... I don't see this fight happening. TheBlueDragoon 18:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. It has both Omega Weiss and Genesis, I can't approve this Zak Undersn 20:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Comments section is TL;DR. :D —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

I'm...not sure how to vote for this one...maybe if you could make more of a connection, I could decide based upon that...? Oh, & since this was apparently missed last time, I'm going to put it in all caps. Sorry for the rest of you, but: SIGN YOUR FUCKING COMMENTS! Just type "~ ~ ~ ~" without spaces at the end of whatever you want to say! It's not that hard! If you don't do this, nothing you say on the Wiki will count for anything. This won't get approved, your DNC votes won't be counted, you get the idea. I'm fgeeling helpful for a change. Take advantage of it.Neo Bahamut 06:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Now that the (lack of a) link has been established, I'm afraid I cannot support this (but I won't reject it, as it's unnecessary effort on my part, considering all the other rejections). Sorry. It's a fight where the characters have nothing in common besides being awesome characters from the Compilation of FFVII. It certainly isn't good enough to be a precedent for the (as far as I know) first tag-team match in DNC history. However, I must stress the REASON I do not support this, rather than the FACT that I do not. Some would do well to learn that "It has X character in it, & I do not like X character" is NOT a valid justification for voting down a fight. I don't like ANY of the characters from XII. I don't even LIKE XII. The simple fact is that the wiki is a FINAL FANTASY Wiki, not a "Neo Bahamut's Favorite Characters" Wiki. If you don't like the characters involved, but cannot find a decent reason to either support or reject the fight, then don't do anything. It does not concern you. If the fight gets voted in, sit that week out. Don't be a baby about it.Neo Bahamut 08:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Genesis and Weiss don't exist. Reason enough to reject it. And Chaos is just a limit break, what means that Chaos vs Sephiroth is like suggesting a fight between Ultima and OzmaZak Undersn 11:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah. They do. Discontinuitying characters you don't like is even more bullshit than voting down characters you don't like. And Chaos IS a character. Dirge of Cerberus established that Chaos had a feral personality & a mind of its own, which qualifies it as a character. Moreover, not all of the fights are between characters. Remember Shinra vs. Yevon? They also don't have to be equal in status, as Sin vs. Bahamut SIN has been queued, and the only thing they really have in common is having "Sin" in their names. Which is a mistranslation on the dragon's part, anyway. Yeah, they're both summons, but in FFX terms, Zanarkand was a summon. They are 2 totally different classes of beings.Neo Bahamut 00:20, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Dirge of what? That doesn't even qualify as a game, let alone as something to take info from. At least since Genesis' and UNDERGROUND's bullshit started to screw off the storyline of FFVII placing a gay man on a red cloak with a stupid book where everything made a bit of sense just to excite Nomura's fappers. The retcons made by CC are just impossible to believe (a village swallowed by the lifestream and nobody ever knew about it? WHAT? Cissnei? WHAT?) and only exist to make DC events clearier while selling thanks to FFVII's name. I just like to think that nothing like a compilation has ever existed because it would mean that FFVII is pure crap, and FFVII is not pure crap, it could be better, but it's not pure crap. The crap is the whatever-i-lation that someone made just to take a lot of money without any effort on characters and/or storylines that fit with the original story. But hey! It's FFVII, it must be good!
Bahamut SIN and Sin are both creatures on their own, the first is summonable and dissapears, but has a corporeal body while he's summoned and those things that barely qualify something as a creature. Chaos is a transformation ability and a Limit Break, against Sephiroth, who is a character. As an ability and Limit Break, the fight would be as All Creation vs Sephiroth, or Firaja vs Addramelech, or Rage vs Kefka, or Jump vs Golbeza, et cetera. Zak Undersn 14:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh great, a massive word wall. Alright, learn what "continuity" and "character" mean, then get back to me. Until then, and even after then, stop trumpeting your opinion as fact. I liked CC & Dirge, & the fact that you think they don't make sense only shows that you weren't paying attention. Hardly anyone brought up Mideel in FFVII, & Sephiroth was all but forgotten, despite only having disappeared 5 years ago. Ugh! Bottomline: This is the FINAL FANTASY Wiki, not the Games Zak Undersn Likes Wiki. And yeah, they ARE Final Fantasy games, even if you don't like them. Nomura was involved in the conceptualizing of FFVII, so it's not like this is some random fan work. Since you more-or-less implied that I was a fanboy, let's ask who's being more irrational here: Me, for asking you to put your personal opinion aside when judging fights, or you, for pretending an entire mini-series doesn't exist just because you don't like the direction it's going? Suck it up & quit being such a douchebag! All I'm asking is for you to squeeze out some God damn objectivity, is that REALLY too hard for you to do? If the answer is "yes," then don't even bother responding to this message. I have no interest in arguing with stubborn anti-fanboys. If you don't want to listen to reason, that's your choice. All I'm asking is for you to not ruin it for the fans of the games, even though you aren't one yourself.Neo Bahamut 22:30, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
It's funny because I've read pieces of naruto fanfiction that are tons better than that enormous pile of junk called the compilation. Nomura is a man who ought to be dead and buried in 4 different places just because of his work on the compilation. Anyway, Mideel left a hugenormous crater on the map, what did people do with Banora? Why should Genesis appear on the scenes that we have already seen on the original game just to read a goddamn book? Why does Genesis even exist? I can look at UNDERGROUND and think "well, you could have existed before because you dont violate the original story", but Genesis? Admitting his backstory would just destroy everything on FFVII, making him the true villain/whatever, earning him the respect for making Sephiroth mad, etc. Just because someone thought that FFVII's name could make him earn some money! That's desecration. And even if Genesis didn't exist and/or the story was better the games are cheapish (Limit Break is now an item, oh, yeah. Now Limit Break is just random and all you can do is watch and keep pressing X, that's a great improvement on the battle system, of course it is) and Advent Children is just a music video clip with lots of money and effort put into it (a music video clip that I like, but it doesn't explain or add anything). BC is not the target of my rage because I know nothing about it.
Now about the fight and my subjectivity: I've seen people vote for characters they hate just because they don't know the other or they hate them even more. Since I don't see any rule regarding that, I don't complain. And since I don't see any rule regarding when or why you can or you can't vote for or against a fight, I vote for or against when it comes out of my penis. Genesis is just a lame character that appears out of nowhere to quote a book, and Weiss is just a reincarnation of Hojo on a body of a super-SOLDIER with 0 transcendance as a character. Sephiroth is way too much overused and hated (and that would mean that the other party would be voted just because he isn't on it) and Chaos is... well, it will still be a Limit Break until it gets out of Vincent's body and blows the shit off The Planet, the Promised Land, WEAPON, Omega and their holy mother. Aside from that, except for the fact that they are part of the same compilation of games, they have very little connection or similarities as the one who proposed the fight stated. If you don't like these reasons, I have others, but you surely won't like them. Zak Undersn 16:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
What did I just tell you? If you don't have any real arguments, then stop talking to me. I mean, for Christ's sake, you just tried to counter Mideel not being mentioned, which is an obvious prallel to Banora with a CRATER. Um, so what? Everyone in the game STILL forgets Mideel. It was the exact same situation. Literally. Up to & including the crater. I know you'll do whatever the Hell you want, because you just can't seem to understand that this isn't your personal blog. These are legitimate games, with plenty of fans. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they're bad. But explaining objectivity to you is as big a waste of time as explaining Genesis's character, which you clearly don't understand. So if you want to vote down fights because you don't like the games or characters, go ahead, but do so quietly, because you have no point to prove, & I've given up on my own.Neo Bahamut 03:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Al-Cid Vs Cid Vs Cid, etc. Edit

I Just had to ask. Which Cid would win?......lolAnother-x 12:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. I love it!!  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 16:37, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Errr... no -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 13:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Just pick two of 'em next time. -Nokareon
  3. No. TheBlueDragoon 18:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Too. Fucking. Many. Sides. Also, too many Cids for one fight. As Nokareon said, pick two Cids next time. Or say "The Cids" vs "Al-Cid." (which still won't get chosen, as its an 18-on-1 fight, which is definitely not fair.) The.DreadnoughT 19:34, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. SN- Al-CID is a Cid. But yeah, this isn't a duel.--Werefang 20:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. How in hell did you think we could fit this into a DNC box? - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 16:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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  8. don't think so..i think no one's gonna vote, the cid i only loved was Cid Highwind from FF7. -deathripper17

Comments Edit

Al-Cid isn't a Cid, so it'd be Cid I VS Cid II VS Cid III VS Cid IV VS Cid V VS Cid VI VS Cid VII VS Cid VIII VS Cid IX VS Cid X VS Cid XI VS Cid XII VS Count Cid VS Judge Cid VS Revgaji Cid VS Unlimited Cid VS Choco Cid VS Doctor Sid, and there's no way in hell a 18-way fight would ever be approved -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 13:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

  • No, Werefang, Al-Cid really isn't a Cid, because the Cid of FFXII was Doctor Cid. I quote from the Cid page: "[Al-Cid] isn't officially the Cid of Final Fantasy XII, as only Doctor Cid has been confirmed by Akitoshi Kawazu and Yasumi Matsuno in interviews as being the official Cid of the game." - Nokareon

Ok, Shorten up this title or I'll shorten it up, its destroying the page!!!DB36

Good... DB36

Lulu vs. Squall Edit

These two, are the sternest people I've ever known. And if you don't know the meaning of sternest, use a dictionary. It's a Fighter-Mage battle. Well a Black-donned Fighter vs. "Black-Belter" Black Mage. Who's gonna win? DB36

Additional information: An odd thing is that these two like belts (I wonder why?) and these two battles with a very cool but odd weapons (Gunblade & Dolls). Also, because of them hiding in their shells (a metaphor), they may look insensitive, as Squall cares for his friends deep down, and Lulu has a gentle side (I'm not talking about her boobs). Again, who's gonna win? DB36 06:19, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Me! Me! Me! DB36
  2. Me second! Cluna 06 04:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. I love it, it's original, and it would be a pretty good fightImmune to stop 19:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Stupid rule in the way of Crono or not, it's still a good idea. The.DreadnoughT 21:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. Battle of the borderline bondage brooders. I like it. Better still, I actually don't know who I'd side with. "Riven" 89.195.65.97 02:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

Comments Edit

-Please put your comments, suggestions, violent reactions, below this sentence and after the ring. "riiiing" DB36

I'm borderline on this fight. Maybe if you can give a better reason, I'll support it. TheBlueDragoon 22:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't think of any, much like a Fighter-Mage fight, the quiet vs the quiet, can't think of any... If i think of one, I'll add it... DB36 06:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Amarant Coral is sterner than both of them. Anony

Does he wear black???, if he does, then I should put him, but he doesn't. For these two, black is the new black... (what???) DB36 06:04, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
I was just saying. Stating these two are the sternest like Amarant doesn't exist. I know he doesn't wear black. Green is the new old Black and looks cooler. AnonyMan 01:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
OK before I unleash my Pyroclasm on you, if you want to reject, just reject. Just because someone is sterner than them doesn't mean that he/she should be put on the fight. They're stern because 1)Squall at first, was cold and only thinks of his mission. 2)Lulu is stern in a behavioral way, almost everything she could say could hurt like an ice pick. 3)Even though I know Amarant is stern, how would I fit him in? 4) As far as I know, Amarant is a ruthless and mindless mercenary. 5)Why would you block my opinions, if this is my opinion that I know that they're stern and Amarant is ruthless? DB36 12:50, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought of your quite Fighter: Crono, but Chrono Trigger's not admissible here. (Crono really does define quiet, though: in the entirety of Chrono Trigger, he speaks once in one of ten possible endings, and says about four words.) The.DreadnoughT 01:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking, using Crono, but this is DNC, means no Crono. So I ended up with Squall. DB36 02:08, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
You know, I understand the "FF only" rule, but sometimes it just seems retarded. Like right now. The.DreadnoughT 02:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
What d'you mean retarded? In a good way, or a bad way? DB36 04:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Seeing as how I'm unaware of there being a "good" retarded, the bad way. Because it means "no Chrono Trigger" more than anything else. It may be a separate series, but really, how different are CT and FF? Not very. Am I not right? I mean, sure, it makes sense that things non-FF aren't admissible. But sometimes, maybe, if the rule is in the way of a really good idea, there should be an exception. It would, in fact, be the second time Crono got himself into the DNC, so the link is already established. That's what I meant. The.DreadnoughT 20:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Cool, gues it really is retarded... DB36 03:52, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Yuna vs Ashe Edit

Yuna is a very conflicted character, initially following the teachings of Yevon until Tidus steps in and gradually begins to question her own faith but is willing to give herself to others all the same. Ashe is a very conflicted character who must choose between restoring her kingdom to its former glory and taking revenge upon the Empire for taking away all she has held dear. Despite the differences, the two are very strong characters in the face of danger and can adapt in any situation whether its a Sphere Grid or a License Board. Cluna 06 04:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Because I suggested this. Cluna 06 04:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Not enough in common Mr_Darkside 10:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. I had a problem somewhere way, way above here with a Yuna v.s. Arith fight. This seems too similar.- Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 14:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. No, I don't think so. They're too different, aside from being the leading female main character. TheBlueDragoon 18:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Pervert!!!Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Weapon (Final Fantasy VII) vs. Dark Aeons Edit

kinda speaks for it self

Support Edit

  1. Mr_Darkside My suggestion. 10:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. I guess this would be pretty interesting. I'll go for it.Neo Bahamut 10:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. This is good. I'll support this. TheBlueDragoon 18:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Wow. This actually makes sense. Good job. -Nokareon
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  6. I vote.- Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 14:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

Comments Edit

Just going to clarify what I believe this guy means, since it took me a few seconds to figure it out: When he says "Weapons,"I don't think he means like Buster Sword, Apocalypse, Scimitar, Godhand, Missing Score, etc. I'm fairly certain he's referring to the monster Weapons created by the Planet & all that jazz.Neo Bahamut 10:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, that makes a lot more sense. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 14:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Fran vs. Firion Edit

This is actually a back-up plan, just in case my Squall vs. Lulu won't work. Viera's Master of Weapons vs. Warriors of Cosmos's Weapon Master. Who will win? DB36 12:30, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. I'll vote mine... DB36 12:30, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Fran needs to buy a silly license to use weapons. Firion has no restriction therefore he's proven his superiority. Anyway, no one played FFII for this to be a decent match anyway and Fran is miraculously fairly popular. Anony
  2. No similarities between the two at all. —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Ok, as always, put your everything else below this line... DB36 12:30, 6 June 2009 (UTC) I don't get it. Explain better.- Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2- 14:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Um, apart from the weapons thing, what else do they really have in common... at all? Wee187 17:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there another connection you can make? Because they really have no similarities that I can see. TheBlueDragoon 18:15, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

For those of us that are tired of having their suggested fights repeatedly rejected, go here! This is where similarities don't matter! Cluna 06 04:17, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Me no likey. No offense. Although, Genesis vs. X would be good, given the subject. My suggestion: Genesis vs. Yuna.Neo Bahamut 04:51, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Omega and Shinryu vs. Ruby and Emerald Weapon Edit

The battle between superboss duos: The WEAPONs can be consistently beaten with ardous and careful planning, but less powerful Omega and Shinryu are in a game with less HP characters, and no multihit summon. *cough* *Knights of the Round* *cough* Heck, I only managed to beat Shinryu with savestates and lucky finishers, not to mention intense AP grinding. So who wins, the million-HP WEAPONs or the party slaughtering Omega and Shinryu. Note: Sorry if any of you feel I ripped you off, but this is a cool idea nonethelss.

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. TheBlueDragoon 18:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

The description is kind of biased towards Omega & Shinryu.Neo Bahamut 04:51, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but I had to edit your suggestion. You forgot the support, comment and rejections. It would also be nice if you signed your username. And this is a combination of my Omega and Shinryu and the other fights. TheBlueDragoon 23:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Snow vs. Sabin Edit

My first of the three fights, in honor of XIII's release.

Both aren't afraid to run up to anything, and give it a pounding. Very similar personalities, too.Xepscern Highwind

Support Edit

Deny Edit

  1. I'm sorry Xepscern...but the three fights you suggested won't work right now...we don't know too much about Snow, Lightning, or Vanille so far. Your fights will definitely work next year, though. Or possibly in December, when FFXIII will be released in Japan. Violet mage 17:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. At least wait until it comes out. -Nokareon

Comment Edit

These are meant for when XIII comes out.Xepscern Highwind

Lightning vs. Terra Edit

My second of the three XIII fights.

They have the honor of being the only female leads in the main series (unless you count Ashe, but XII lead was obviously Balthier).Xepscern Highwind

Support Edit

Deny Edit

  1. Lightning not ready for DNC, especially against Terra.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 15:49, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. At least wait until the game comes out. -Nokareon

Comments Edit

These are for when XIII comes out.Xepscern Highwind

Oerba Dia Vanille vs. Rosa Farrel Edit

My third XIII fight

Both are archers. What? That's as profound as Irvine vs. Barret.Xepscern Highwind

Support Edit

Deny Edit

  1. We don't know enough about Vanille.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 15:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. At least wait until the game comes out. -Nokareon
  3. In the age of gunpowder, Nighthawk and Jumping, archery blows. The.DreadnoughT 02:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. We all know Rosa will lose. BADLY. There's no reason to pretend otherwise by actually holding this fight. PaladinCecil 06:51, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

These are for when XIII comes out.Xepscern Highwind

Kadaj, Yazoo, and Loz vs. Genesis, Weiss, Nero Edit

3 Brothers vs 3 Brothers

Both from the Final Fantasy VII compilations.

Support Edit

  1. eh why not 74.193.194.64 21:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. I like it --CLOUD 17:58, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

Comments Edit

You need to put a Support Reject Comments part. It won't pop out by itself DB36 02:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Tifa vs Yuna Edit

In case Yuna vs Ashe phails...

These two strong women are willing to sacrifice themselves for the sake of others. But who comes out the strongest? Cluna 06 01:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. I suggested it. Cluna 06 01:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. I vote it. I understood the nomination. the simple description says it all DB36 06:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. I think it would be a good idea,-deathripper17

Reject Edit

  1. Its a bad suggestion overall. They may be strong willed, but they don't have enough in common in my book, TheBlueDragoon 21:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Pervert!!!!!!!!!!Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

I'm once again borderlined on this fight. I'll think on it before I support or reject it. Tifa and Yuna... They're just too dissimilar. TheBlueDragoon 01:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

How dissimilar? Cluna 06 01:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I just don't see a connection here. That's all. TheBlueDragoon 02:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Well, I do! They're both strong-willed and they put their lives on the line! Now tell me that's not enough! Cluna 06 02:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
-sighs- C'est la vie. Its not enough in my book. TheBlueDragoon 02:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay. You asked for it...*Omnislashes BlueDragoon* Cluna 06 06:53, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Don't you think you're being a bit childish? I just gave my opinion, and you're taking it the wrong way. In my opinion, this is a bad matchup. TheBlueDragoon 16:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Appearently, if Krystal disagrees with someone, they get "Omnislashed". How this helps the situation in any shape or form, I don't know.
Yeah, neither do I. Its a real mystery. TheBlueDragoon 17:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
How Tifa and Yuna are alike? Every character in the series puts their life on the line. You see a connection, big whoop. Takes more than that, sweet pea. —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you! Someone else sees the point I made. TheBlueDragoon 17:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Rude vs Reno vs Elena vs Tseng Edit

Which of the original four Turks is the best? (Vincent quit, unfortunately for Shinra.) Really, that's all there is to this one. The.DreadnoughT 02:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. <Insert sarcastic comment on why I support my own fights here, because I'm too lazy and someone else can edit this> The.DreadnoughT 02:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. We did Rude vs. Reno, and this is just an expanded version of this. And, I don't really think Elena or Tseng would over take the Turks' dynamic duo. -Nokareon
  2. Much as I love the Turks, I think this isn't a good idea. Sorry. TheBlueDragoon 02:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Leviathan versus Bahamut Edit

King of the Dragons versus Lord of All Waters. Two recurring summons in the series, but which one is the true king? TheBlueDragoon 06:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Supporting my own, if no one else will. TheBlueDragoon 06:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Master Conjurer 08:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. You do have a sort-of good idea here, but the DNC will kill it. Bahamut will own Leviathan, because Bahamut has owned everything he's come up against so far in the DNC. As a battle, this works. As a DNC fight, it doesn't. Sorry. The.DreadnoughT 21:00, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Puh-lease. —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Well, it was worth a shot. I just like these two summons. Maybe someone else besides Bahamut would work? I would like to see Leviathan in the DNC TheBlueDragoon 21:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I can give you a recent fight with Leviathan: L'than vs Ramuh, around five weeks ago (highest numbered DNC archive, I think it's 12) L'than owned Ramuh. The.DreadnoughT 21:53, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Ah ok. so maybe its not a good idea to have Leviathan again so soon. I'll just stick to my Red versus Mog fight. Thanks anyway. TheBlueDragoon 22:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Zalbaag vs Golbez Edit

Two elder brothers of heroes, both corrupted by the powers of darkness. Both able fighters in their own, and both redeemed in death (or sleep, in Golbez's case). Inquisitorone 04:58, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Eh, why not?Neo Bahamut 06:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. A nice suggestion. The suggester should vote for his nomination. DB36 07:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. DNC needs moar FFT. —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Voting because it was suggested. Inquisitorone 16:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Wouldn't Dycedarg be a better choice rather than Zalbaag? After all, Dycedarg and Golbez were both corrupted (you could say that both Zalbaag and Golbez were "controlled", but even then Zalbaag didn't strike me as evil at all). It is true that Ramza gets more emotional pull out of fighting Zalbaag rather than Dycedarg, though, so I can see why Zalbaag would be chosen as well. -Nokareon

Reject Edit

Comment Edit

At first, I thought Dycedarg was a better suggestion too, but then I realized that he was going for redeemable brothers. Dycedarg was pure evil, through-&-through. It would be like pitting Necron against Cosmos, & saying that they both speak to the protagonists.Neo Bahamut 23:31, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Cloud of Darkness vs Necron Edit

Two final bosses with similiar purpose of life (to return everything to the nothingness). What do you think? Final_Blaster (unregistered yet) Put second by mistake. Please delete.

Support Edit

BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|15:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

Comment Edit

Already suggested further up the page -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 17:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Flare vs Holy Edit

Two ultimate spells in the many Final Fantasy (before Ultima). Black vs White. Which will won?

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. Flare v. Holy is just as dumb as my own pre-registering Flare v. Shadow Flare and Meteor vs Holy; Black Magic v White Magic has already been done, Flare isn't even really black magic, and finally, sorry, but this wasn't even a good idea. The.DreadnoughT 20:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Dreadnought said it all. TheBlueDragoon 00:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

1, you should only use the two-equals heading for the fight itself, three-equals headings for the S/R/C section; 2, this fight is remarkably similar to my old Meteor vs Holy and Flare vs Shadow Flare. Both were rejected, and for good reason. The.DreadnoughT 20:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

ATB vs CTB Edit

Which will win? Conditional Turn Battle, or Active Time Battle? Quick and effective or slow, but tactical? I just registered. That suggestion is mine. Final Cannon 01:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. Sorry, but I don't think this would be a good matchup. TheBlueDragoon 03:02, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. We already had a battle system fight, ATB vs. Turn based vs. Real Time. -Nokareon
  3. Not only did it already happen, but ATB will win by a landslide. ATB was the mainstay battle system of Final Fantasy, as it was used for IV through IX, which is 6 of 12 numbered games. Three of them used the old Turn Based system, and XII used the "new" (except for existing since Chrono Trigger as Active Time Battle version 2.0) Real Time Battle system. Only one game, X, had CTB and at least six had ATB, so CTB has no chance. (As good as FFX is, CTB is screwed as it's really just a hybrid of ATB and the old Turn-Based style.) The.DreadnoughT 21:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. No. CTB would win outright!Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Hey, I edited your fight suggestion. Hope you don't mind and could you sign your username so we know whose suggestion belongs to who? TheBlueDragoon 00:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Zidane vs Bartz Edit

Why? Because two of them are young travelers and treasure hunters. Besides... Their comrades in Dissidia! Final Cannon 01:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. They're both pimps. Ash Crimson 17:19, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. This is a much better idea than your other suggestion, but since the DNC is a popularity contest, I think Zidane would destroy Bartz. As far as I know, I may be the only person I know who likes Bartz as a character. Not very many people like the FFV cast if I remember correctly. TheBlueDragoon 03:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. As a fellow Bartz fan, I don't want to see what will actually happen if this fight goes through: A blowout. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 06:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

I have edited your suggestion. You need to use three equals for your S/R/C headers. Also, you missed the comments box, which I have added. Sign your username as well please. TheBlueDragoon 00:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ifrit Versus Ramuh Edit

Two summons that usually appear together, except in the case of FFVIII, X and XII. Which one is better? TheBlueDragoon 04:57, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. TheBlueDragoon 15:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

Atomos vs Pandemona Edit

Who SUCKS more? Get it?

Support Edit

  1. Yeah, I get it XD Support.
  2. Yay for puns. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 15:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Good pun. Consider this supported. TheBlueDragoon 15:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. It's not going to get chosen, but whatever. -Nokareon
  5. I can't decide whether the pun is epic win or epic fail XD -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 09:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. Im liking this match up for some reason Mr_Darkside 18:07, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

Okay, I just saw that clearly offensive vote. You aren't supposed to be calling people "asshole," unsigning asshole. (Can I delete that vote now?) The.DreadnoughT 17:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Nah, leave it there so that we can mock their idiotic hypocrisy -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 17:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Famed Mimic Gogo vs Phantom Train Edit

Two overly ridiculous boss battles.

Support Edit

  1. What the hey. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 00:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Why not? TheBlueDragoon 04:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

I don't really like the premise of this fight, though I'd probably support it for being original. However, I'd suggest the GI Nattak, instead of the Mimic whatever. Both Undead, can be killed in a single hit with a Phoenix Down, but otherwise are at least decently difficult, and...an FFVI vs. FFVII fight...but that's not the point! Evrae Altana would also work, but the Phantom Train & the GI Nattak are also a lot more closely related, seeing as they are fights in the "good old days" of Final Fantasy. But not the "good old old" days. :PNeo Bahamut 20:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I also agree with Gi Nattak. The Gogo fight was from Final Fantasy V, which not a lot of people liked. Two undead bosses would be nice to see. TheBlueDragoon 20:44, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
The go suggest it instead of suggesting that this one be changed. I for one don't haven't even heard of Gi Nattak, nor have I heard anyone talk about him. That isn't the case with these two bosses. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 00:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
No, I think you're missing the point. If you change this one, I'll vote for it. If not, I ain't doin' shit. Why would I suggest a fight unless I really, really wanted to see it?Neo Bahamut 01:30, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
I miss those good old old days, before everything went super graphics and voice acting. Hell, maybe I'll suggest the fight then. TheBlueDragoon 02:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
No, I think you're missing the point. I'm not changing the fight just to get one vote for it. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 03:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
It would be pointless, if you put it that way. TheBlueDragoon 04:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I got the point. He missed mine. I'm not going to suggest a fight when there's one that's already really close to it, especially when I don't care THAT much about it. He can change it or not (although, one vote would be more than he currently has), I don't care. But either way, I'm not going to vote for a fight where I neither know nor care enough about one of the combatants. I gave my suggestion. There was no need to get pissy about it.Neo Bahamut 18:54, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Mateus vs. Gestahl vs. Solidor Edit

Three rulers, which one deserves to be the ultimate emperor? YamiNoBahamut 13:57, 11 June 2009 (GMT)

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. Rejected for the fact that its a three way fight and that Gesthal would probably dominate them both. TheBlueDragoon 15:32, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Three way fights have been done before, but Emperor Solidor does nothing and nobody cares about FFII. -Nokareon
  3. Even though Mateus is easily the most accomplished and successful of the three, the first two rejections nailed why this won't work. AnonyMan

Comments Edit

  1. I was just thinking about a fight between the emperors before i came down to this area. But i doubt it would work because of the difference in fanbase sizes. I equally support all of those three games though, as i'm one of the few that loves XII and II as much as the rest in the series. Fanbase differences have really harmed the series. -MadHatter1284

Ashley Riot vs. Vaan Edit

The fight between 2 protagonists of Ivalice

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. FF fights only. Ashley is from Vagrant Story. TheBlueDragoon 20:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Technically speaking, Vagrant Story does have a page on this FF Wiki, and is included on the front page under "The Final Fantasy Series" tab. But it's still not a good idea. -Nokareon.
  3. Blue Dragoon is right! Final Fantasy only! Vagrant Story, Kingdom Hearts and other shit like that is strictly prohibited.Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Garland (FF1) vs Garland (FFIX) Edit

OK, so my last idea wasn't very good. I'll accept that. Which game has the better Garland? The ex-knight, princess-kidnapper, time-warping Garland of FFI; or the genome-creating, deceiving creator of Zidane and Kuja from FFIX? YamiNoBahamut 22:16, 11 June 2009 (GMT)

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. TheBlueDragoon 23:20, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Learn to edit better. I'm sick of fixing this page already. TheBlueDragoon 23:00, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Edgar Roni Figaro vs. Balthier Edit

Who will win: the young ruler or the sky pirate? The pedophile or the one into bestiality?Xlatinsorax 04:03, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Xlatinsorax 04:03, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Sure, why not. I'd still like to see your Kuja V Genesis though. TheBlueDragoon 04:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Kuzlalala Squee! 11:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Let the leading man's coolness overwhelm the young monarch! Muahahahaa!!! -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 20:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Interesting...how would Balthier stack against a "smooth" guy who's actually cool? AnonyMan 20:35, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. Could get interesting. Edgar pulls out the Chainsaw, but Balthier has a gun... The.DreadnoughT 14:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  7. Very Funny.Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

Comment Edit

@BlueDragon Yeah I really want to see it too. Not because I made it, but because I just want to see the results of that conflict. How long does it normally take and how many votes does it need? Xlatinsorax 15:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I know what you mean. Its been sitting there for weeks on end, getting support and it still hasn't been picked. TheBlueDragoon 21:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Viera are sentient, so I'd say it's not the same as bestaility. Besides, Hume/Viera couples seem reasonably commonplace in Ivalice... then again, there's a Seeq-Viera couple in RW, which is just... scary -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 20:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Yea I know what you mean I was just going for a Newgrounds reference. Xlatinsorax 13:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Uh, aren't we supposed to be striking through the fights that have either been done already or which have been chosen and used? The.DreadnoughT 16:21, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Mog vs. Vivi Orunitia Edit

Hmmmm.....It's the battle of the cuddliest and cutest FF characters....hmmm..who do you think will win? The moogle or the black mage? I don't know whose side i'm in, but i personally love this dudes. deathripper17 7:37, 13 June 2009

Support Edit

  1. Why wont i support? I was the one who suggested it.....-deathripper17
  2. hey! this battle would be great! -visitor
  3. cute vs cute....

Reject Edit

  1. Landslide. If anyone can beat Vivi, it sure isn't going to be Mog. -Nokareon
  2. I wish this battle wasn't so one-sided, because it really is a good idea. But for reasons already stated, I have to reject.--JohnnyC 00:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Xlatinsorax 03:16, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Vivi would destroy Mog. No one can beat Vivi for some reason. Much as I like the moogle, Vivi would own. Sorry. TheBlueDragoon 17:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Any attempt to defeat Vivi is futile. End of discussion -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 20:13, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Always add your Support/Reject/Comments so others don't have to do it for you. -Nokareon

@SorcerorNobody: Didn't Vivi get matched up against Kain in the Magicite Madness? I still don't get what's so great about the little guy. TheBlueDragoon 05:34, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Kefka vs. Ultimecia Edit

A duel with the biggest magic-oriented enemies in the FF series.

Support Edit

  1. Why not? At least it makes sense... -Visitor

Reject Edit

  1. Ultimecia was very insignificant for the majority of her game. Kefka actually had backstory and succeeded in his plot. Ultimecia wouldn't have a chance. --JohnnyC 21:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Ultimecia is inexplicably one of the most hated villains 'round here. Kefka is inexplicably about her polar opposite. For what it's worth I like this idea the circumstances just wouldn't mesh well. Anony
  3. Sorry as much as I might be one of the few people on the planet who like Ultimecia, Kefka will dominate. Xlatinsorax 03:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Kefka has one of the biggest fanbases in the world, and Ultimecia is a villain who doesn't even make an appearance until the very end of the game. She was a hell of a fight, but not even close to being able to face Kefka, especially in the DNC. Sorry. TheBlueDragoon 18:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Anyone who actually played FFVIII pay attention to it's plot? Ultimecia drove the entire thing, yes, she was behind the scenes most of it but she was very present if you will. AnonyMan 00:03, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but her overall appearances in the game make her highly unmemorable. Most people would probably name villains such as Seifer to have been better antagonists during the storyline.--JohnnyC 00:58, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Which is also very foolish and ignorant of them, seeing as how they were nothing but Ulti's patsies. Then again the same people think stale Kefka is such a compelling character. Evil and crazy? Alert the press. Ther's a villain who did crazy better. AnonyMan 02:15, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't really say it's foolish. It's just that Ultimecia is down there with Cloud of Darkness and Necron. Sure, she actually did have involvement with the storyline, but the fact that she doesn't make an actual appearance until the last battle makes her hardly worth mentioning in my opinion. Also, I have to admit that as much as I like other villains better than Kefka, he actually DID succeed with his plot more than others did.--JohnnyC 03:05, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Cut Ulti some slack, she was operating from a completely different period of time until the end. I can think of a few FF baddies who baring getting beat by the Heroes(or life expectancy in one case)were pretty successful before and after Kefka. And besides how successful is a God of Magic who gets beat...by Magic? AnonyMan 03:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm not saying she was a bad villain, all I'm saying is that she wasn't nearly memorable enough of a character to stand a chance against Kefka. Despite any of the facts that say what she did may or may not have been worth that memory, it doesn't change the fact that she has a small fanbase.--JohnnyC 05:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Locke vs. Vaan Edit

It's a stretch, but just throwing this out there. A battle between characters who played the male leads of their games, but weren't the focus of the plots.--JohnnyC 01:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Final Cannon 06:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. I like it. Vaan has generated a lot of hate for some reason, but on the other hand Locke doesn't exactly have a legion of dedicated fans. It might be quite even. "Riven" 89.195.65.97 02:20, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Good thing I saw this. I was about to suggest Locke versus Vaan myself. TheBlueDragoon 23:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. It'll be good to see Locke in a scrap...and I don't hate Vaan, either. His vest is strange, but he's just...mediocre, not awful. Bangaa Red Mage 06:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. I'd like to Support. Both are cool, and fairly similar in design. It's just that Vaan has a staggering amount of flak for some reason, too much for this to be interesting. A-to-the-Mizzle

Comments Edit

Final Fantasy couples Edit

Cloud+Aerith v. Squall+Rinoa v. Ashe+Basch v. Rosa+Cecil. Which Couple is more powerful?

Support Edit

I like it but it will just be a one sided fight of ff7 fanboys

Reject Edit

  1. Way to many Mr_Darkside 11:25, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. To the idiot in the Support column with the unsigned vote: I see comments like yours all the time. I never see anyone sign a vote going, "WOOT! FFVII rocks!" just something to think about. As to why I put this in "reject" & not "comments," well, it should be obvious that this fight is ridiculous. DNC is mostly a one-on-one thing. That's 4 pairings. And some of them are debatable (why not Cloud+Tifa, for example). And some (Yuna+Tidus, for example) are missing. Besides, what are we comparing them for? What does "more powerful" MEAN? Are they fighting together? If so, why does it have to be romantic? Is it which couple is better? In which case, why hould we cater to the shippers? This fight is just riddled with problems.Neo Bahamut 02:24, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. You also missed Locke and Celes (but that one too is debatable, thanks to Terra. Damn excessive amount of playable characters complicating VI.) In other words, the problem is similar to the "All The Cids FFA" fight- too many sides, and if you don't include all of them, somebody or other will probably complain about being left out. Worse yet, its paired sides, and worse still, probably half or more of those pairings are debatable. The.DreadnoughT 04:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Ashe and Basch?!, hell no.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 11:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. No. All I can say is no. TheBlueDragoon 04:17, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. Try Tidus and Yuna. Maybe then you could get more supporting votes.Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
  7. FAIL. It Cloud ends up with Tifa. It was always Zack and Aeris

Comment Edit

Only two of those pairs are real actual couples. Switch the weird "pairs" out with more official ones, Zidane+Dagger is a good one to switch for. AMan

Hey, NB, thank you for bringing that up. Next time something from VII hits the DNC, just to see what happens, my vote (if its for whatever from VII) will include "w00t! FF7!" The.DreadnoughT 02:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Ifrit Vs. Bahamut Edit

Battle of the two most recurring summons

Support Edit

  1. My idea Mr_Darkside 11:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. Bahamut would destroy Ifrit. I suggest Leviathan versus Bahamut and it got rejected on the same grounds. TheBlueDragoon 04:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment Edit

Ifrit vs. Titan Edit

Battle of the two giant-like recurring summons.

Support Edit

  1. A Titan fight!? Finally, he's probably the most underrated summons. -Visitor

Reject Edit

Comments Edit

I'm seeing a lot of Ifrit battles here. While they're not necessarily bad matchups, they are sort of getting unoriginal. For that note, I won't accept nor reject. Just pointing out that once one or two Ifrit battles are done (which I'm sure already have been) it gets a little old.--JohnnyC 01:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Highwind vs Ragnarok Edit

Two famous, powerfull airships. Which will win? And:this is not FFVII vs FFVIII battle. This is battle between airships! Final Blaster 19:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

1. go Ragnarok!!! 2. Good idea, i can't decide which is better though Marty Mcfly 3rd

Reject Edit

Comments Edit

I've never heard of the Ragnarok. Just sayin'.Neo Bahamut 00:06, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I've heard of the sword, and the summon that teaches Ultima at a rate of x1, and the mythological Norse battle, but the Airship...neither have I. The.DreadnoughT 04:18, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Ragnarok is the airship from FF8. Personally, I love the look of it.--JohnnyC 04:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Never heard? Look here: Ragnarok (Final Fantasy VIII)
From the first line in the article, I quote "...space shuttle..." (Granted, I can't say much without being extremely hypocritical, as I consider the Epoch from Chrono Trigger to be an airship...and it's a time machine.) However, within the context of Final Fantasy only, airships are not space-capable (except maybe in VIII, but one game does not define a series.) And we already know that "Shin-Ra Type 27 (VII's space vehicle) v. Ragnarok" is dumb as hell. The.DreadnoughT 14:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Personally the Invincible(FFIX) works alot better than Highwind. It has more similarities to the Ragnarok...and it's cooler. But Airship bouts are always cool anyway. AnonyMan 11:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll still stick by my opinion of Ragnarok's greatness. It might not be as functional as the Invincible, but I always liked the thin, sleek looking ships in the series better than the larger, bulky ones. Pretty much the same opinion I have with cars.--JohnnyC 01:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I can't reject or support this. So I just hope it doesn't turn into another VII versus VIII discussion. TheBlueDragoon 01:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Laguna vs. Zack Edit

battle of the main character body/mind switchees or whatever you want to call it

support Edit

  1. my ideaImmune to stop 04:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

reject Edit

  1. Once again, we have a FFVII vs FFVIII suggestion...  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 11:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

comments Edit

by the way I was hoping that people didn't see this as a VII vs VIII fight but I now see that thats not going to happen thanks to the guy in the rejection column, so I hope youre happy for ruining any faith i had left in humanityImmune to stop 19:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Dude, it happens to me all the time. "This has FFVII in it, no fair, fanboys!" Ugh. The day I see, "It has no FFVII characters!" in a rejection column, & NOTHING ELSE, I'll believe in these infamous fanboys.Neo Bahamut 21:38, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Yuri and Chelinka vs. Yu and Ai Edit

The twins that are way too young to be the main protagonists of their rather unknown games/anime. Honestly, I would like to make this a three-way with Palom and Porom, but I can foresee teh fanwars of doom. —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|23:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. I'll support it. TheBlueDragoon 01:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Could be interesting (but Yuri+Chelinka = killer win) -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 20:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

Blue Mage vs. Beastmaster Edit

A duel with the two most monster-dependent classes in the FF universe. Who will win? The one who copies or the one who controls?

Support Edit

  1. I like it. -Visitor

Reject Edit

  1. The one who stops needing animals and pulls out knuckles, a staff, a rod, a knife, a katana, a rapier, a sword, a bow, a greatbow, or a gun. Who the f*** did you think was going to win? The.DreadnoughT 02:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Beastmasters are sort of one of those classes that just sit on the sidelines for the few games that they're in. They were never really very useful. Everyone uses Blue Mages, though, and there's actually a Blue Mage in every game.--JohnnyC 01:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Blue mage... How many can I name? Strago, Kimahri, Quistis, Quina... How many beastmasters? None that I can think of. TheBlueDragoon 06:04, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

The only Beastmaster is Relm, and I only know that because I just happened to notice the relic that turns Sketch into Control. Relm sucks anyway, though. :S JohnnyC

I guess you can say that, but officially she's a Pictomancer, but like you said, Relm sucks, aside from her incredibly magic stats. TheBlueDragoon 23:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
I can name one Beastmaster. He's a Nu Mou, named "Major" with 99/126/147/147/123 - 4/3/55 - 71/95 (W Atk/W Def/M Pow/M Res/Speed - Move/Jump/Evade - HP/MP at level 8 with no Experience and no A-Abilities (or other Abilities.) Don't remember when he joined my clan in TA, don't remember why I haven't fired him yet. And, to quote the Chocobo Master (FFVII) or whatever... "I think that's all I'm gonna remember..." (or something.) The.DreadnoughT 03:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I was saying in the main series Dreadnought. Tactics Advance and A2 were filled with Beastmasters. Just get a Nu Mou and change jobs. Its a good class to get Blue Magic with, ironically, considering this fight is Beastmaster versus Blue Mage TheBlueDragoon 05:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I hated the FFTA Beastmasters too. It was a little fun to capture the monsters, but that was using the ranger, and the one time I tried using the Beastmaster's ability, I didn't like it, so I fired him. JohnnyC
The only reason I used the Beastmaster Job was to get Blue Magic and get a Sage. other than that, they're useless in my book. TheBlueDragoon 23:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Limit Breaks vs Overdrives Edit

Two systems of powerfull finishers. In which game it was better? Final Cannon 16:42, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. Overdrives were just the name for limit breaks in FFX. They've been in the system since FF6 anyway, so it's pretty much a battle system match of FFX vs. FF's VI-IX.--JohnnyC 18:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. I have to go with JohnnyC on this one... They are just two names for the same thing essentially. "Riven" 89.195.65.97 02:02, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

I suppose you could alter this slightly to be which type of limit is better. "Desperation" limits, where you can use them repetedly as long as you are near death like in FF 6 and 8. Or "Regular" limits, where a bar charges over time and you can use them whenever you wish so long as the bar is full like FF 7,9 and 10. "Riven" 89.195.65.97 02:08, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Quezacotl vs. Ixion Edit

Two lightening-elemental summons that took Ramuh's place for a few games.--JohnnyC 01:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

1.sure, not exactly original but why not.Immune to stop 02:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC) 2.Interesting, and i don´t like Ramuh, he is too much human for a summon.189.110.59.242 19:54, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. These two summons exist only because when their respective games were released, Ramuh called in sick. The.DreadnoughT 17:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

I was just thinking about how awesome it would be if there was artwork showing Ramuh riding Ixion as a steed.--JohnnyC 01:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. I'd like to see that as well, since you brought it up. Unfortunately, I'm not an artist. TheBlueDragoon 23:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Well, a couple days later, I decided to make an attempt at drawing it. I'm not a great artist either, but I hope it'll look decent... It should be done in just a bit. Edit: I finished it. It's on my deviantArt account linked from my userpage.JohnnyC

Pupu vs. Magic Pot Edit

Hmm... when short on elixirs..Immune to stop 02:59, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. When short on Elixers, one craps into the Magic Pot, or else one leaves, steals Elixers, and finds the Magic Pot again. The.DreadnoughT 02:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

comments Edit

Ok,this is like 86% a joke, but I want to see reactions.Immune to stop 02:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Vincent Valentine VS. Auron Edit

Although people say Val would kill, remember Auron's massive strength, defense, and the fact he's UNSENT. The correlation is that they were both twisted and broken for their beliefs, but they used those changes as strength. And BTW, both at max HP, strength, with Ultimate (celestial) weapons, but with no Overdrive/ Limit. And lastly, They'd unite to take down Seymour.

Support Edit

Umm,... awesome!! Two half-dead guys kikcing the living daylights from each other. Not to mention the fans: Tidus and Sin, and Sephiroth and Cloud. (sorry. That was bad)

Rejects Edit

  1. No. That's all I can say. TheBlueDragoon 23:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. It's been done already. Check the archives. JohnnyC

Comments Edit

Use three equals for the S/R/C. I'm sick of fixing this damn page and I'm not even a mod TheBlueDragoon 22:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't really understand why they'd unite to just take Seymour down. JohnnyC

Yuna + Anima VS. Seymour + Anima Edit

The connection is Anima and they're both awesome summoners on either end of the 'good-bad' spectrum.

Support Edit

Rejects Edit

  1. Since Anima is on both sides, I just have to say this. It will just turn into Yuna V Seymour. TheBlueDragoon 23:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. No matter what you say, it's still going to be a Yuna vs. Seymour fight in which Seymour would get owned. JohnnyC
  3. Actually, he'd get Sent, not owned. Either way, he's going to the Farplane. The.DreadnoughT 01:22, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

The one thing is that Anima was MADE for Seymour by mummy-dearest, while Yuna gained her aid only when Seymour went officially psycho. No other aeons allowed, and only their summoning skills. No slug-fests when the aeons leave. And also, if this does get included in the DNC, then they can be as strong as you want, but without added abilities. Pain, Oblivion, and the given black and white magics. Naught else. THNK U

Use three equals for the S/R/C. I'm sick of fixing this damn page and I'm not even a mod TheBlueDragoon 22:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC) Jonny C. It's ajoke

I find it humorous that you give them all these super abilities, like the DNC is some magical arena where you can watch them fight with superb graphics. Its a popularity contest! TheBlueDragoon 04:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Locke vs. Seymour Edit

OK, since nobody cared about my real fight or my stupid fight, here's a generic fight.Immune to stop 02:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

support Edit

reject Edit

  1. Sorry. No. Just no.
  2. I don't see the relationship. JohnnyC
  3. This is just two names thrown together. And Seymour would get owned anyways... Xlatinsorax 03:43, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Let's see... No relationship, most likely one-sided... No! TheBlueDragoon 04:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

comments Edit

I'm noticing a lot of fights using Seymour and Ifrit lately. You should try and keep it original. TheBlueDragoon 06:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Sabin+Edgar Vs. Porom+Palom Edit

Twin Battle!!! -deathripper17

Support Edit

  1. I suggested the battle, so i'll support!! Why wont I? -deathripper17
  2. I love twin battles! -visitor
  3. Not a bad idea. Physical twins vs. the magical twins. JohnnyC

Reject Edit

  1. TheBlueDragoon 18:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Uhhm, where's the reasoning for the rejection, TheBlueDragon? 62.252.178.158 16:20, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Bahamut versus Vivi Edit

Since they're undefeated, I'd like to see which one wins. TheBlueDragoon 18:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Though I believe I've seen something like "the DNC alone is not reason enough for a battle" somewhere, I disagree. Good idea. The.DreadnoughT 17:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. No. Hardly a fair fight, because of teh levels on which their undefeated.
  2. Sorry, but I'm not quite sure what the relationship between the two are. I guess that they can both cast Flare, but all Black Mages can do that. Violetmage♥ 23:03, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Jeez, format your rejection properly. You didn't sign and you didn't put the number sign. TheBlueDragoon 23:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Rikku VS. Shalua Rui Edit

Both warriors/technicians, and they have virtually the same hair.

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. Not even aware of the latter's existence. JohnnyC
  2. TheBlueDragoon 20:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Rikku is soooo out of Shalua's league. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 02:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Dedicated fighters, and popular mentions in the DNC. ~~Nobody

Shalua's not even playable, so how do you figure she's a technician? Just because she has a metal arm? So wrong, dude. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 02:32, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


Aeons VS. Eidolons VS. Espers Edit

Which group of summons reigns superior, and why do you think so?

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. The first and lesser reason is that it's a 3-way. The second and greater reason is that Aeons will sweep the board. Controllability + Oblivion + Zanmato + Delta Attack = Epic Win -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 22:25, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. If you really wanted to do this, you'd have to include GF's too, and potentially Yarhi/Scions/FFVII's materia summons, etc... simply too much. And really, is there that much difference between them all? -Nokareon
  3. There all names for the same thing. Also, can everyone quit it with the 3 way battles? JohnnyC
  4. SN and Nokareon said everything I was going to say, and beat me to it. TheBlueDragoon 01:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. WTF? 3-way seriousily! I'm gonna have to reject what about GF's (VIII) vs. Aeons (X)? that would be alrite. User:Mistbrawler101 July 22 09

Comments Edit

SOLDIER VS. SeeD Edit

Humans injected with mako to make them stronger that works for a company or humans who train for most of their life and is a mercenary group.

Support Edit

  1. I seriously want to see I don't care if it is a ff7 vs ff8 I still want to see it.Lost-myth
  2. I really Like this idea --CLOUD 18:11, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
  3. Soldier would crush SeeD in terms of combat(you remember that army Zack obliterated in Crisis Core), But in terms of popularity, I think this is a good idea.Mysidian Nomad 03:00, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

  1. TheBlueDragoon 03:28, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Last time I summitted this idea it got more supports than rejects, and there has not been any ff7 vs ff8 for a while so don't bring up that. Lost-myth

What, Irvine v Barret wasn't VII v VIII? The.DreadnoughT 17:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

This is pretty similar to the MagiTek versus Mako technology suggestion further up. Plus it will be just another FFVII versus FFVIII TheBlueDragoon 02:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Edgar vs. Vaan Edit

The great king vs. the orphaned thief of the slums.Immune to stop 03:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

support Edit

reject Edit

  1. Sorry Vaan will just be destroyed. He needs to go against someone who isn't from a game that a lot of people like. Maybe if he were to against someone from Spirits Within he might have a..... no wait maybe not. Xlatinsorax 16:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. The vote above mine said it all. I may be one of the few people who like Vaan, but against Edgar? He'll be destroyed. TheBlueDragoon 17:56, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. What exactly do they have in common? JohnnyC
  4. Vaan just isn't popular enough to be in anything. He's not a bad character, I don't get it. AnonyMan 21:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

comments Edit

So pitting characters up or are aesthetically opposites isn't a theme? The only probably I see here is the name Vaan, not only is he not very popular he's very much hated. I'll never understand it. Anony

I find it odd too. Vaan isn't as black as people paint him, and the only thing I really have against Vaan is probably his bad graphics abs in XII. I mean, there are a few other things, but none are significant considering that all characters have some flaws... apart from the likes of Sephiroth, Auron, etc. who are just cool. Although admittedly I've done my bit to perpetuate the Vaan-bashing, as can be seen in the "Random Links" section on my userpage -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 22:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, if I change Vaan to somebody else but keep the basic idea would that be acceptable?Immune to stop 00:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

If you can find someone else who's similar (but who is also not Vaan) then yes. And bashing Vaan is okay, the spineless Cactoid deserves it. It's kind of like bashing the Whiny Dumbshit from VI, some characters really are that bad, which, considering that I didn't mind Relm, Yuffie, or Rikku, is saying something. The.DreadnoughT 21:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I never liked Cyan. this fight is just flawed. Vaan could be destroyed by the most unpopular character in the entire series. I like Vaan, but most people hate him. Besides, he has nothing in common with Edgar, but he does fit Locke, as they're both thieves. However, it will be one-sided against Vaan, no matter who he's up against. TheBlueDragoon 03:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Then maybe Cyan v Vaan would be fair, only very few people would want to see that much of Square's worst characters in one DNC battle. Technically, there's nothing actually wrong with Vaan; he is useful at times, especially when it comes to Stealing. He's just really stupid (in my opinion) far more often. Especially "How's this...I'M CAPTAIN BASCH!" (Retard, get Basch to run around yelling that, it'll work better.) Oh, did I mention, "But Penelo is still out there!" (And......?) See, it's things like that which make me hate Vaan, no matter how useful he might occasionally be in battle. The.DreadnoughT 21:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Vaan is stupid, I'll agree. I actually love the fact that he's the main character of XII, because we get a part of the story we wouldn't have received if it was from Ashe or Basch's point of view. Maybe I'll suggest Cyan versus Vaan then. Or maybe Rosa versus Vaan. Actually, now that I think on it, Vaan would be better as a supporting role and Basch should have been the main character. I dunno, I just know that Vaan is one of my favorite characters in the series. Yeah, I said it. You can flame if you wish. TheBlueDragoon 04:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Y'know, if we really want to get unoriginal...we could pull a "Seymour versus Vaan" and see who wins. (Seeing as how there are several fights with Seymour and several with Vaan, all of which have the problem of being one-sided against Seymour or Vaan...) The.DreadnoughT 14:41, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
That would be interesting to see. But wouldn't it just be a battle of the most hated? Those never work out. TheBlueDragoon 18:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Vivi Orunitia vs Zack Fair Edit

I think these dudes are both famous. And i think trying to beat these dudes is futile. I just want to know who will win. - anonymous

support Edit

  1. i support! -anonymous
  2. Rinoa leonheart 16:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)" go ZACK O YA

reject Edit

  1. No connection, no support - +DeadlySlashSword+ 17:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. TheBlueDragoon 17:53, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. JohnnyC

comments Edit

I stand divided on this. While they are two of my favorite characters, there is no connection. Give me a good reason, and I'll support! Xlatinsorax 17:03, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Tifa vs. Lulu vs. Rydia Edit

Not a battle, but more of a hot contest.

Support Edit

Rejects Edit

  1. NO NO NO! Firstly, no more 3-way battles. Second, sign your name. Third, I'm more than sure something like this battle has already been done. JohnnyC
  2. Silly rabbit Mr_Darkside 19:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. YOU FUCKING PERVERT!!!!!!!!!!Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Interesting. I won't support or reject, but three of FFs hottest? Its just everyone is doing three way battles and its starting to lose originality now. TheBlueDragoon 22:41, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Any complaints, tell me what I can do to improve it/ sway your opinion.

I don't think you can sway me. I've abstained from this fight, but could you sign your username or IP address so we know who it belongs to? TheBlueDragoon 23:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
There's really no improvement. The main thing is that no 3-ways are accepted. And as I said, even if you narrow it down to two, there's already been a Tifa vs. Rydia match, and Lulu versus either one won't stand a chance. JohnnyC

Larsa Ferrinas Solidor vs. Vayne Carudas Solidor Edit

The good brother vs the evil brother

Support Edit

  1. My idea Mr_Darkside 19:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Sure. I like both characters. TheBlueDragoon 19:37, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Reject Edit

Comments Edit

Black Mage vs. Vivi Edit

Can the new guy hold a candle to the origional? Or will the past dominate the present? --Teletroid

Support Edit

Rejects Edit

  1. Generic player vs. one of the most popular characters in the series? I don't think it will work. JohnnyC
  2. No. TheBlueDragoon 23:23, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

No Chance Mr_Darkside 15:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Oh, well. To tell ya the truth, I just wanted to see how people would react. --Teletroid

Fran vs. Rosa Farrell Edit

Battle of the Archers

Support Edit

  1. Why not Mr_Darkside 15:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. I think this could work. Fran isn't all that great, either she's about as underwhelming as Rosa. No to be offensive.The A-Manz

Reject Edit

  1. You know Rosa will lose badly. Even though I like Rosa. TheBlueDragoon 21:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Rosa has absolutely zero chance of winning. Same as with pretty much ANY possible match-up that involves Rosa. Too many people either hate her or vastly prefer anyone not her. PaladinCecil 22:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Rosa Would lose for the same reason that Balthier Wins all his match ups. Too Many New people like newer characters and not enough of the fan base is here for the older ones. Rosa even lost in her primary Job battle. This would just be a massacre.Theentertainer

Comments Edit

Grrrrr fran pwns all wiv sagitarius

The user base here has proven in the past that there isn't enough respect toward Rosa for her to have any sort of chance against anyone created post-FF4, and pre-FF4 is iffy. PaladinCecil 22:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Then what about spinoffs or FF4 itself? The.DreadnoughT 17:32, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Its kind of a shame. I don't think anyone who be a good matchup for Rosa. I love Rosa honestly, and I still don't see why everyone hates her. She's a good healer, even if her DS voice is a tad annoying. But overall, I don't think anyone but me likes Rosa. TheBlueDragoon 21:23, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
You seem to have missed PaladinCecil. You know what, though? At least Rosa has been in the DNC before. Ritz Malheur (probably due to bad luck) hasn't. The.DreadnoughT 02:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I saw him. And that was a good pun. If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Malhuer mean bad luck in French? TheBlueDragoon 05:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Mithra vs. Viera Edit

Both are female races. Which one will win?

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. Just so you know...this has been done. DNC Archives, number four. The Viera won. Nineteen to five. End of story, it will be a repeat with even more of a giant landslide lead for the Viera this time. I do get the idea, but its been done and was too one-sided to have again. And don't even try the Gria, that suggestion was put out of its misery at least one archiving ago. The.DreadnoughT 01:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Since its been done, shouldn't it be crossed out Dread? TheBlueDragoon 05:31, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Good point. The.DreadnoughT 17:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Tifa Lockhart vs. Aerith Gainsborough Edit

hmmmm.... was this fight suggested earlier? b'coz i want this battle to happen:

  1. first, i REALLY want to know who is MORE famous,
  2. second, i want to know who is Cloud's Love Interest or Leading Lady....
  3. third-hmmmm,,i'm gonna think more reasons........-deathripper17

support Edit

  1. Would be a good fight marty mcfly 3rd

reject Edit

  1. This fight is just pointless. It will just cause pointless arguments by stupid fans. No offense.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 17:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. It actually hasn't been done. I agree it would probably pointless though. JohnnyC
  3. Well, at least its not FFVII versus FFVIII. But this fight has probably been suggested countless times. It will turn into fanboy wars. TheBlueDragoon 21:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. IT is pointless, who could not see the outcome. Atherserpens

comments Edit

  1. if this battle was suggested or has been in the DNC, then i want to know who won..... - deathripper17
Not to be rude, but you could look for yourself. The.DreadnoughT 16:55, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


I highly doubt it hasn't been done. Even if it hasn't, it'll still probs not go through. It's too inflammatory. As for the other questions:

  1. More famous? Probably Aeris, since she's the subject of an infamous spoiler
  2. Love interest? I would say Aeris, many people disagree. Go here for analysis of the evidence
  3. More reasons? Please, don't. Quit while you're not too far behind

-- Sorceror Nobody Flan 17:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Aeris was only attracted to Cloud because Cloud inherited Zack's traits through the mako...stuff. JohnnyC
Technically, "Cloud's love interest" means "the person that Cloud loves". Whether Aeris loves Cloud is therefore a fundamentally different question -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 20:28, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I just don't like this fight, because the Peanut Gallery is going to be full of pointless arguments by stupid fans.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 20:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
As we already seem to have started? =P JohnnyC
Burn. We started a Peanut gallery for a fight that hasn't even been selected. Why do I have a strange feeling this will be next week's fight? TheBlueDragoon 06:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
And this is why I hate this fight. All it is a pointless fanboy war. Now this is my final comment for this fight, I'm not going to get invole with this stupid fanboy war.  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4 17:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Right behind you on that. TheBlueDragoon 00:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
This is exactly what I meant by "too inflammatory" :P -- SN
Well, i wasn't really expecting that this fight would be in the DNC, i'm just a little bit confused. And The Blue Dragoon's opinion was right. I both love Aerith and Tifa. And quit?? what do you mean? -deathripper17
By "quit" I meant "don't try to come up with more reasons". Especially since of the two reasons you put forward already, only the first is even remotely relevant to whether it goes in the DNC. I assure you, I didn't mean it unkindly -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 16:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh ok........i wasn't really that mad, Sorceror Nobody -deathripper17

Seifer vs. Seymour Edit

Both recurring bosses, both important characters, both playable at some point, both on the "good" side at the beginning of their games, etc. (and I know someone already told me not to suggest Seymour as it's becoming generic but I honestly think this is a good idea).Immune to stop 21:03, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. Seymour would get owned. Neither of them are recurring either. (Unless you could call Seifer's appearance in Kingdom Hearts a recurrence, but that was barely more than a cameo.) JohnnyC
  2. Well, for one, Seymour would get owned. Two, Seymour has never appeared outside of FFX. Seifer is a very well loved character as far as I know. Seymour... Doesn't have a very big fanbase as far as I know. I like both characters, don't get me wrong, but they just don't have enough in common for it to be an interesting fight. TheBlueDragoon 23:10, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

by recurring I meant in their respective games and how would seymour get owned, from what I've seen they're both loved and hated equallyImmune to stop 22:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

No, Seymour doesn't have a very big fanbase at all. Furthermore, by your definition of "recurring", that doesn't make them very original, as then a lot of character bosses in the series would be considered recurring. JohnnyC
I thought so. This was overall just a bad matchup. TheBlueDragoon 03:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Fine wrong word and my mistakeImmune to stop 01:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Celes Chere Vs. Cloud Strife Edit

My first battle to get General Celes Back at the DNC. These Two have high positions in their own companies(or what ever you call them), but ends up realizing that what they're doing is wrong and ends up saving the world from crazy, power-hungry, and insane antagonists that wants to either destroy or rule the world. - deathripper17

Support Edit

  1. Ok, I'll support this. Celes versus Cloud. It will probably be a landslide in Cloud's favor, but I like this idea. A lot better than some of your other ideas. TheBlueDragoon 19:11, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. I support! It's my idea - deathripper17
  3. It might not be a landslide for Cloud. If I am a workable example of a VII fan, that is; I'd vote for Celes on account of "at least her brain's not f*cked up." The.DreadnoughT 02:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Rejects Edit

Comments Edit

  1. I really want to see General Celes at the DNC. Is it right that i chose Cloud over Zack to fight General Celes?
Thank you for the compliment, The blue dragoon! At least THIS idea has a chance unlike the others....... - deathripper17
No problem. I just want to see some FFVI in the DNC. Celes was my second favorite character in FFVI, after Mog. TheBlueDragoon 20:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Mm, maybe you're right Dreadnought. Celes is fairly popular. Of course, if this gets chosen, I'm voting for the General. TheBlueDragoon 06:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

There is just one other thing I have to say about this: You aren't really getting Celes back into the DNC, considering that she was in it not very long ago: Celes v. Ashe. The.DreadnoughT 17:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

==Gilgamesh Vs. Orthros== The two recurring comic-relief bosses! JohnnyC

Support Edit

  1. Since they're both incompetent half the time, and since they're both endowed with extra limbs, this seems like a decent matchup. Then again, Gilgamesh has swords... and lots of them, too -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 21:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Lol -Visitor

===Rejects===

Comments Edit

Um, sorry to point this out, but this has been done already... TheBlueDragoon 02:49, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah, darn. It's spelled different on the battles list so it didn't come up when I searched it. >.< JohnnyC
Its a shame too. It looked like such a good fight. TheBlueDragoon 05:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Cecil vs. Ceodore Edit

WIth the After Years finally in America (On WiiWare), I thought this would be appropriate: Father vs. Son.

Support Edit

  1. I'm guessing it's too early to do this, but I'll support it. -Visitor

Reject Edit

  1. This Ceodore person wouldn't stand a chance. The After-Years still hasn't made it to a whole lot of players, and it wasn't a very big hit for those it did. Even so, this is still just a battle between the original character versus his son from the spinoff. JohnnyC
  2. Paladin versus Paladin Junior. That what this basically is. Cecil has been around forever, and we all know and love him. Ceodore is a newcomer and frankly is nowhere near as awesome as his father. TheBlueDragoon 22:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

Terra Branford Vs. Zidane Tribal Edit

So who's the strongest Trance inducing powerhouses of Final Fantasy? For years it has been the consensius that these two vouch for the top spot of strongest Final Fantasy hero, now you decide who gets 1st place.

Support Edit

  1. This could work. Two characters who came from different worlds (more or less) and have strange powers. JohnnyC
  2. An interesting suggestion. I also would like to point out that as an interesting side note, I find this suggestion to be humorous, as Zidane was born on planet Terra. TheBlueDragoon 05:39, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Let's go for this one. AnonyMan
  4. Honestly, when I saw this, I thought the link was going to say "Zidane was born on Terra". -Nokareon
  5. Difficult to Decide on and 2 good characters. I like it. Theentertainer
  6. Violetmage♥ 13:27, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
  7. Two of my favorite Dissidia characters. Silver Dragon XXVIII 11:29, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Rejects Edit

Comments Edit

Ultimecia vs. Exdeath Edit

Two evil mages. Two main villains. Both considered the pinnacle of magical prowess in their respective worlds. Both work behind the scenes for the first part of their games. Both had their roles (i.e them being villains) chosen largely by fate rather then themselves. Both quite underrated for no real reason. "Riven" 89.195.135.123 07:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Since everybody else seems to support their own ideas I might as well. "Riven" 89.195.65.97 23:09, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. AnonyMan
  3. I support this one mostly because I do believe they both are deeply underrated.

Reject Edit

  1. Ultimecia would get owned. Exdeath at least had backstory and made real appearances in his game. JohnnyC

Comments Edit

Ultimecia had a backstory, in fact the entire plot line from the creation of SeeD to the final battle, takes place because of her, and I really don't understand when people use the fact that she didn't make an appearance as an argument against her, just because you don't physically see her doesn't mean she's not there! She's present in the game from Timber onwards. That's Squalls first SeeD mission! And while you may have a point about how she'll do in the fight, I personally don't think "one of them will lose" is enough reason to not do it... That's kind of the point isn't it? "Riven" 89.195.65.97 22:31, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Ultimecia had no backstory. The player knows nothing about her aside from the fact that she's there. Plus, landslide fights are generally avoided, with closer/unpredictable battles being preferred. (IE: Cloud vs. Firion would be a bad fight.)JohnnyC
She simply did have a backstory. Granted it's never made overly clear and you have to piece most of it together yourself, but it is there. She suffered a life of hatred and descrimination. Vilified from the word go for something she wasn't even aware of, and at that point had no control over. That's part of the reason I suggested the fight, I see both of them as victims of fate for the most part. To a large extent the path of antagonist was forced upon them. "Riven" 89.195.65.97 01:51, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. VIII is pretty subtle when it comes it's plot develoment, just becuase important facts aren't blatantly fed to you doesn't mean it isn't there. There's enough things in-game to understand Ultimecia's character you just need to pay a little more attention than other games.AnonyMan 03:13, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Sphere grid vs. License grid Edit

Two different ways of stat gaining, each with pros and cons, but which one is better?

AARGH! TWO RULES BROKEN!!!

  1. SIGN YOUR DAMN PROPOSALS AND PUT THE SUBHEADINGS IN!!!
  2. It's already been done. Check for dups, dumbass. I won't apologise for calling you that, for the reason below

Is it really that difficult to follow the extremely simple and clearly stated rules? I'm not the only one getting f*cking fed up with fixing this page when people do this sort of thing -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 00:13, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

It is a problem, but I think there's a calmer way of going about these things you know. (Especially for new users.) JohnnyC
I was calm. I only give the impression of spluttering outrage in an attempt to convey the message somewhat more emphatically and noticeably. Plus this is why I added the "put the subheadings" rule... although quite why I ended up doing it when it should really have already been there is another question... -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 22:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
"Category:Users getting tired of fixing the DNC nomination page" needs creation? The.DreadnoughT 02:30, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I think so too. I haven't even been a registered member for long and I'm already sick of fixing this page. TheBlueDragoon 22:00, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Does this work? The.DreadnoughT 04:29, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
That just made my night. Once I get to fixing up my userpage, I'm using that. TheBlueDragoon 04:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Genius! I'll use it too -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 09:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm a new user too and I don't think I've screwed up yet. The rules are simple, not asking of much, and easy to follow. I've been editing this page for not even a day and I've already been fixing mistakes. That userbox is hilarious btw! MisfitAirship

J-E-N-O-V-A(music) vs. Force your way Edit

2 of the best battle music in the whole series, which is better? Anon

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. I don't know, I just have a feeling this is going to be another no contest kind of fight. MisfitAirship

Comments Edit

I will accept on the term that you find space for "Otherworld".Sephiroth66 00:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Comments aren't supposed to be numbered, right? I'm going to go ahead and fix it, if I'm wrong I'll just change it back. As for the fight, if you add Otherworld it will be three way which I don't tend to make it on the list of approved fights anyway. Besides, the fight will probably be a landslide in JENOVA's favor.

Lightning vs. Cloud Edit

Lightning is described as the female equivilant of cloud but who would win in a brawl? Halioneo-fuvey

Support Edit

Reject Edit

  1. Like above, Lightning isn't ready for the DNC yet, especially against Cloud. At least wait until FFXIII hits Japan. TheBlueDragoon 21:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

You can have DNC's using just one character?! Loll. Anony

No, a better example of that is "Zack Fair versus Mindf***ed Cloud" The.DreadnoughT 01:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Cait sith vs. Quina Edit

I consider both these characters annoying. but who is least annoying? marty mcfly 3rd

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  1. I support because I genuinely like both characters. They're not that bad, rather hang with them than someone like a Terra, Cloud or Squall. Anony
  2. I was swayed. JohnnyC
  3. I ended up swaying myself into supporting this. Good idea. TheBlueDragoon 00:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

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I'm not quite sure whether to reject or support. On one hand, they're two oddball, irritating characters, which works. On the other hand, it would most likely be a landslide victory for Cait Sith, since everyone just plain hates Quina. JohnnyC

...but Quina is about ten billion times more useful. Blue Magic = win -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 22:39, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
And yet, I somehow feel compelled to support this. I hate both characters, but Quina would get my vote for being one of the few Blue Mages who don't have their Blue Magic restricted to Limit Breaks/Overdrives. Yes I'm looking at you, Kimahri and Quistis. TheBlueDragoon 02:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Why do you dislike Kimahri so much? He's a blue dragoon, whether you're judging by skin color or his job. (I agree that he sucks.) The.DreadnoughT 15:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Khimari was just useless in general. He was a wimp at the start of the game, and he had a bad sphere grid, so a lot of people never develop him to use. (Just pointing that out.) JohnnyC
I don't like or dislike Kimahri. I just think he's a bad dragoon and a bad Blue Mage. His Jump attack is limited to Overdrive, as are most of his best abilities. He just doesn't have enough to make my final team. I develop all my characters evenly in FFX, but Kimahri just isn't good enough for me. If you want a kickass dragoon, get Kain or Freya, whose Jump is brutal and doesn't take forever to use just once. If you want a Blue Mage, there's Strago and Quina. Kimahri was just a failed attempt at two of the sickest classes in FF. The only reason I don't like him is because I'm biased to Dragoons. TheBlueDragoon 19:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Archers vs. Gunners Edit

Battle of the ranged classes! Because shooting things from a range is better than hitting things in melee. In theory. Bangaa Red Mage 06:47, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

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  1. Not a bad idea. Guns would win in terms of which is more useful realistically thinking, but if it's a contest of popularity, that's a good contest. JohnnyC
  2. I'll support this one. If its a popularity contest, like the DNC is supposed to be, it will be an interesting matchup. TheBlueDragoon 01:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Though I think it should be fairly obvious which side I support, I also like this idea in general. The.DreadnoughT 15:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. Milk!  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 01:02, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. Kuzlalala Squee!10:17, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. I'm going to vote for my own suggestion about 3 weeks late. Bangaa Red Mage 06:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

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  1. um bows vs pistols essentially... no contest guns would win every time sorry. marty mcfly 3rd

Comments Edit

As an aside, yeah it's just a popularity contest...although, the bow somehow holds its own (in my view, at least) against the gun in Ivalice, if not in real life.

For a long time, in real life, bows were better than guns; until sometime in the 1600s (maybe even 1700s), a good user of a longbow could fire faster and more accurately across a larger distance than someone with a gunpowder weapon; the difference was skill: the gunner needed a few weeks of familiarization, the bowman a lifetime of training. (The other difference was power: armor stopped an arrow; to protect one from a shot from a gun, plate armor was needed and would have to be so heavy as to crush you.) Just pointing that out. The.DreadnoughT 15:47, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Water vs. Ground Edit

Both spell types are scarce in the series when compared to fire lightning and ice. Weakness and resistance aside, which spells are better? Marty mcfly 3rd

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  1. Not even gonna bother giving a reason here. TheBlueDragoon 02:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. JohnnyC
  3. Air, Fire, Water and Earth be damned, this user is of the Lightning element. The.DreadnoughT 03:26, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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Dancer vs. Bard Edit

Battle of the performers-- A fight for center stage! -Dozmare

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  1. A good idea anon
  2. Sure, why not? Bangaa Red Mage 09:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Kuzlalala Squee! 10:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. Supporting myself (I didn't know I could do that! :O lol) ~Dozmare

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Be like a 'final fantasy's got talent' show Marty mcfly 3rd

Job system vs. 'Normal' system Edit

The job system in V vs the 'normal' everyone is what they are system like in VII Marty mcfly 3rd

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Comment Edit

This has, effectively, been suggested further up the page: job system v Free Growth System v Unique Character System. You just removed a side. The.DreadnoughT 15:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Kuja vs. Jenova Edit

Two of the baddest people in the seriesAtherserpens

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  1. Jenova is ugly as hell (formaly something I only said about BlueHighwind, so it must be true ^_^)  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 00:55, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

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Jenova's a PERSON!? Since when!? -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 09:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Far as I can remember, Jenova's an alien. TheBlueDragoon 18:59, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I suppose if you wanted to get technical, you could say that Kuja's an alien too. That way, it's an Alien vs Predator Alien fight, so there'd be a tangible connection... But Kuja'd deffo win IMO -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 19:22, 9 July 2009 (UTC))
Ok, I'll agree with you on that. My whole point was that its a fight between Kuja, who is well loved, and Jenova, which is just a headless beast. I think you're right when you say Kuja is a definite winner. TheBlueDragoon 20:15, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Um, Armegeddon, aren't you supposed to put the number sign before your vote? TheBlueDragoon 04:27, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Did I forget again? sorry.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 20:00, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Its alright. You're nowhere near as bad as some people on here. We added it for you, no worries. TheBlueDragoon 21:09, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Anima vs. Griever Edit

Two main villians summons against each other, Seymour's mother's fayth Anima against Ultimecia's GF Griever. Mr_Darkside

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  1. My Idea.Mr_Darkside 01:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
  2.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 00:56, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. You've earned my support. But could you please sign your username so we can tell whose suggested this fight, because I really like this idea. TheBlueDragoon 05:31, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

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Comments Edit

Interesting suggestion. I have to think on this one. TheBlueDragoon 00:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Chocobo vs. Orthros Edit

Two of Final Fantasy's longest running creatures, but which one is better? Which is more popular?

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  1. Chocobos would dominate. Othros has only appeared in two games in the main series as far as I know. (FFVI and FFXII) Chocobos are present in every main series game besides the original. TheBlueDragoon 22:12, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

Ok, now I'm pissed. Sign your damn proposals! I don't know who suggested this, and its a bad suggestion anyway. Also, to the user in the support box, put the damn pound sign! Is it that hard to hit SHIFT+3 on the keyboard? Or are you just illiterate or just plain lazy? I swear, the other users of this wikia have influenced me. TheBlueDragoon 03:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, don't sign your votes in such a way as to pretend to be a registered user. If you were, you'd be doing it with a template (such as NoWSig, Ninja of Wind's signature), or the way most of us do, which is to put ~~~~ in. It automatically puts in the UTC time, 24-Hour-Clock style, and makes your name a link, not text. And signing the way you did doesn't really count, anyway. The.DreadnoughT 01:27, 12 July 2009 (UTC).
By the Goddess of Dragon Quest, thank you. You said it all better than I ever could. TheBlueDragoon 04:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Cidolfus Demen Bunansa vs. Seymour Guado Edit

Both are main antagonists whose sanity is highly questionable. Both believe that what they do is for the best. Together, we would need a psycho ward to hold them.

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  1. I suggested this one, so I support it 100%.--Lordxehanort 00:21, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Milk!  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 00:51, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Congrats. You've earned my support. I rarely support fights these days. I believe you have a good fight with this suggestion. TheBlueDragoon 04:32, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. Silver Mage 13:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. Bangaa Red Mage 00:21, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. Nice one! - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2-

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Comments Edit

Let me make a few things clear before you state your opinion:

1. I did not suggest this based on the character's fanbases. I suggested it based on the similarities they share. 2. Don't vote based solely on popularity, or fanbase, or lack of power, or plot importance. Give an unbiased reason. 3. Don't overanalyze or underestimate the characters.

By the way, I came up with the Yevon vs. Shinra idea. I didn't have an account back then.--Lordxehanort 00:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, let me make one thing perfectly clear. I'm borderline on this fight. Functionally, the DNC is a popularity contest. I got that straight from the DNC homepage. You have to realize that characters like Kefka, Sephiroth, Cloud, Auron, Kain, Vivi and the other DNC titans will usually win, no matter who they're paired against. But you have a good suggestion, and it will likely earn my support. However, just keep in mind what the DNC really is. TheBlueDragoon 01:44, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Death Corps vs The Turks Edit

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Ramza vs. Terra Edit

Both main characters in two of the best stories of the series, both lack a love interest, both have strong, unique abilities for the most part (Mettle and Esper form). Essentially a knight vs. mage fight (even though they can both be much more).Immune to stop 20:00, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

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  1. Interesting. A lot better of an idea than this week's current fight. Ramza and Terra. This will be a good battle. TheBlueDragoon 21:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Bangaa Red Mage 07:52, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

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Rosa Farrell Versus Rinoa Heartilly Edit

Two leading ladies from two of the better games in the series. Both could be considered as mages, given Rinoa's second Limit Break. Who would win in a fight? TheBlueDragoon 22:56, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. I'm supporting my own. TheBlueDragoon 23:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. I don't know much about Rosa other than the concept of her character, which is cool, but I'll support since you finally supported one of mine.Immune to stop 15:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Rivenous

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Rinoa's popular, therefore Rosa will lose. We know this. No reason to make it apparent by running this contest. PaladinCecil 16:58, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments Edit

I was actually going to suggest this myself! Only I was going to say that they both use long range weapons and both get into situations where they need a big strong man to come and save them a little to often (I hate damsels in distress!). But when with their teammates they are willing to put up a fight. How can I not support it? Rivenous

Thanks for the support. I like both characters, and they fit so well together, I couldn't not pair them. I just hope this fight goes through. I suggested several other fights, but I think this may be my best suggestion yet. TheBlueDragoon 05:07, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
The only two times that you need to help Rosa are of no fault of her own. The first time, she got sick with an illness ANYONE could contract out in the desert, and the second time was specifically because Cecil was too weak to protect her. When all the fighters in the kingdom are either dead or defeated from the attack, it's silly to hold being abducted against Rosa. Despite claims of her being "the worst DiD," Rosa is actually the least DiD of all definite female leads. PaladinCecil 17:02, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
In all fairness none of the situations Rinoa gets herself into are particularly her fault (except maybe the one in Deling city), I guess I have more of an issue with distressed damsels as a plot device then the characters themselves, so I guess my anger is somewhat misguided. But hey we all have hang-ups. Rivenous
You know, I really didn't want to say this, but Rosa and Rinoa have a lot in common. So what if no one likes Rosa. I'll vote for her and I know a few other people will. Rejecting a fight solely because it has Rosa is really stupid and pointless. TheBlueDragoon 01:50, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Rosa will lose, guaranteed, and I'd rather not see the same old "Rosa sucks so I'll vote for the one I like more" or "Rosa sucks, but I'll vote for her because she's connected to things I like" diatribe for a fourth time. All these fights ever do is reiterate that people don't like Rosa, the only question being to what extent. The votes are never for HER when she's voted for, and in general people are incapable of casting a vote without being hateful or condescending about her. In this specific case, all I see coming out of it is character bashing on both sides with Rinoa the winner because more people started on the series after FF4, and so have a stronger personal tie to FF8. PaladinCecil 21:52, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Relm Arrowny vs. Krile Mayer Baldesion Edit

Two granddaughters. Both being idiotic. So who would be less idiotic? I rest my case. Finalfreakfantasy 10:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

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  1. Two reasons: First, Relm isn't idiotic, she's one of the best bubbly ditzes (both character- and stats-wise. ULTIMA!!). Second, VI >>>> V, so it'd probs be a landslide in Relm's favour. I rest my case -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 13:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
    EDIT: Two more reasons... we've had several Ditz v Ditz battles lately, and also it's been done already.

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Delita Heiral vs. Vossler York Azelas Edit

Two antihero-type characters whose motivation and alignment often seem ambiguous. They aren't afraid to manipulate and kill to achieve their goals. They believe (or at least claim to believe) that what they are doing is right, although many disagree with them. Do they have the right idea and simply use the wrong methods? Or are their ideals wrong altogether? Should we label them as heroes, or villains? Should we label them at all? Such is the complexity of the antihero.

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  1. Mine -Nokareon
  2. I'll support, if only to see an interesting fight between antiheroes. TheBlueDragoon 19:45, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. I have yet to see a Vossler fight (that I remember), and I think it's about time he's in one.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2 20:12, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. Rivenous 23:52, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. They're both from Ivalice. Auto-win. --wee187 05:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. Bangaa Red Mage 00:20, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
  7. That's odd. Did I actually vote in support? I do that rather rarely these days... The.DreadnoughT 13:40, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

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  • I didn't want to use Seymour, because in my opinion he's not much of an antihero compared to Delita. In my opinion, he's nowhere near as complex or believable as Delita, and much easier to simply condemn. In fact, it's a little bit of a stretch to even call him an antihero. But I couldn't think of any other antiheros more like Delita in FF (If you can, I'd be glad to replace Seymour). If you couldn't tell by now, I like antiheros. -Nokareon
Another Seymour fight... I don't know much about Delita. I know she's from Tactics, so I'll have to research her character before I decide on whether to support or reject it. TheBlueDragoon 02:21, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Delita's a he. But no, this fight's not for Seymour. This fight is for being an antihero, and thus mostly for Delita. Seymour was just the other one closest to fitting the antihero bill (which is not as close as Delita, unfortunately). -Nokareon
How about Vossler? He's also a traitor from the Ivalice-alliance. JohnnyC
That's, umm... hmm, not bad. Actually, that's rather interesting. I kinda like it. Anyone else second Delita vs. Vossler? (I like it a whole lot more than Delita vs. Seymour in any case). -Nokareon
Vossler is a good choice. And my mistake Nokareon. I never played Tactics or heard of Delita before. TheBlueDragoon 05:05, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
If you're gonna choose an antihero, go with Genesis. He needs his time to shine.--Lordxehanort 16:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't see Genesis as much of an antihero... He was more of a villain whose motivation was survival. To me, anyway. Changing to Vossler, although I'm worried about whether Vossler can stack up to Delita (although with the way it was I was

worried about whether Delita could stack up to Seymour, so meh). -Nokareon

  • Lol, I just had a hilarious thought. Marche fits the bill of antihero pretty well, don't ya think? But I probably won't change it, because not enough people buy into the Marche Villain theory in general. They insist on seeing him as a true and true hero.-Nokareon
I generally think of Marche's defining characteristic as stupidity; but, he does want his brother crippled! Sort of!Bangaa Red Mage 00:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Safer Sephiroth vs. God Kefka Edit

Battle of the Villainous Angels. The.JonnyLeonhartT 19:43, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Support Edit

  1. Yes, has been done. But that was 101 weeks ago (which is three weeks short of two years.) One Winged Angel v Dancing Mad has also been done, also a long time ago (and that isn't really the same.) And since it was close the last time, and certainly will be interesting, I'm supporting it. The.DreadnoughT 20:57, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Even though Kefka vs Sephiroth has already been done, like the Dreadnought pointed out, it was forever ago. I'd like to see the fight with my own eyes. TheBlueDragoon 21:03, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

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  1. No more Sephiroth, no more Kefka, no more VI vs. VII. And One Winged Angel vs. Dancing Mad would be better than their respective bosses, but we've either already done it or it's already been suggested (I don't remember which). -Nokareon

Comments Edit

Fucking hell! Two rules broken! Sign your damn proposal, and I had to add you subheadings dumbass! Plus, haven't we already had Sephiroth versus Kekfa in the past? TheBlueDragoon 19:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Possibly three rules, actually. I'm not certain in any way, but I think I've run across something saying that Kefka versus Sephiroth fights aren't allowed (presumably because the Peanut Gallery would get so massive as to actually make the page unloadable.) Also, yes, it was done; it's in Archive 3 (Week 25- it was another of the Bad Fight Weeks-) I see no reason why not to support it, though. The.DreadnoughT 20:53, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Hm, if it was that long ago, I'll support it too, I'm just pissed about the rules being broken. It was almost blatant disregard, but you're right, it was a good suggestion. TheBlueDragoon 21:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Freya Crescent VS. Kimahri Ronso Edit

Two races that were both defeated leading to huge numbers of their race dying. Seymour killed a huge number of Ronso's and Queen Brahne killed loads of Burmecians plus their homes of course with the help of Odin. Mr_Darkside

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  1. My idea Mr_Darkside 18:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. JohnnyC
  3. Good idea. Both use spears, are dragoons, so Dreadnought's line fits here. "Death From Above!" I'm supporting this. TheBlueDragoon 19:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. I always wanted to see Freya win a fight! :P -Nokareon
  5. I like the comparasion, though if TheBlueDragoon really means my "Death from Above," he is partially incorrect; it does not include Kimhari's Jump, only useful variants of Jump (i.e., Cid's or Kain's, for example,) or other such attacks, get to use "Death from Above!" The.DreadnoughT 00:43, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. i like it--a17280fdec998b452275c942c7dfe2cb 03:07, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
  7. BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|02:01, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

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Hi, I've only just joined the website after looking at it for so long. Apologies for editing the God Kefka vs Safer Sephiroth fight before I joined, I just had to clear that out of the way before being fully commited.

Hehe, sorry about that Dreadnought, I just couldn't help myself. I love that line. TheBlueDragoon 01:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Moogle Wars Edit

How bizarre for me to suggest a Fight these days. Anyway, this was the other idea I had for Fight 126, but eventually decided upon Biggs v. Wedge. I still like it, and actually hope to see it. I'm leaving in a month, and so doubt I'll ever get a chance to make a Fight again (I got to make three, that's enough for anybody). So here it is: Classic Moogles v. the Bunny Moogles from Ivalice v. Fat Moogles from Crystal Chronicles. Which is the cutest? And that is the last Fight I will ever submit for approval from you DNC Space Monkies (because for the most part you have terrible taste and love to whine). --BlueHighwind 20:23, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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  1. Moogles, we all know and love them, for the most part. This would be a good fight. I'll support it. TheBlueDragoon 22:13, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Cool idea. I'd have to really think about who to vote for -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 22:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. I'd say take out the fat moogles myself, but I suppose CC may have its fans. The Ivalice moogles are best in my book though, and I want to see how many people would agree with me. -Nokareon
  4. This is a great idea! I love moogles :3 ~Dozmare
  5. If I vote for myself, people might be fooled to think that more people like this idea. --BlueHighwind 02:26, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
  6. This. Is. A. MUST!!! Kuzlalala Squee! 13:51, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  7. Me likes this Celythia

i like it --a17280fdec998b452275c942c7dfe2cb 23:33, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

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Reject (Don't Edit this Section) Edit

Oh, come on. Forbidding it is the surest way to guarantee it -- SN

  1. Never, ever, EVER say "Don't Edit this Section" where my presence is at all likely: it's the surest way to guarantee that I will. The.DreadnoughT 22:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

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Did I mention Kupo? TheBlueDragoon 04:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Zell Dincht vs. Amarant Coral Edit

Both these guys are both monks. Zell is known for his crazy attitude and Mike Tyson tattoo while Amarant has big crazy red hair (scarlet hair) and Wolverine/Vega claws The.JonnyLeonhartT 23:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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  1. I don't like the idea, TBH. Too vague, but hey. --wee187 06:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Bad suggestion. Plus Amarant was in the DNC recently. TheBlueDragoon 23:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Rule broken, bad suggestion, Amarant in DNC recently, and you ripped off my signature (or so it would appear.) Now, when someone used <span class="insertusername>User</span> in a signature, that was funny. This isn't. You did sign, at least: good job! The.DreadnoughT 23:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. Everyone hates Zell. In my opinion, it seems too one-sided.- Mako Angel

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One rule broken man. You have to put the subheadings ass. TheBlueDragoon 01:10, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

What's the this about Amarant being in the DNC? What's the DNC anyway? JonnyLeonhart 22:48, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
That place that this is the suggestions/nominations page for. Dragon's Neck Colosseum. The.DreadnoughT 19:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Fool. What do you think you're suggesting fights for? TheBlueDragoon 02:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Crisis Core vs. Advent Children vs. Dirge of Cerberus Edit

Ok,let's face it, all of us want to know what's the best game or movie in the compilation right.Each of them have their own aspects: CC is an rpg, DC is shooter game, and AC is a movie. But which one is the best of them all?

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  1. No game fights and I also reject because its a three way. TheBlueDragoon 20:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Ok, let's face it. No one wants to see this fight. JohnnyC
  3. No three way fights, only one on one. JonnyLeonhart 22:45, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

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Flan VS Bomb Edit

Well, you should know what lines I'm thinking along. Two elemental enemy veterans who come in a lot of different names, shapes, and colours. JohnnyC

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  1. Good suggestion. This one made me smile. Well done. TheBlueDragoon 15:42, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Did you know that Veteran is another of the veteran recurring enemies, too? (Just noting something funny about your wording.) The.DreadnoughT 03:25, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Bangaa Red Mage 08:08, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
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Ok, that was funny Dreadnought. That comment made me laugh. TheBlueDragoon 04:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Haha! Yeah, I thought of the Veteran/Ahriman enemy when I typed that too. xD JohnnyC
Haha. XD I also thought of the Veteran when I saw this suggestion. Another one that came to mind is the Cactuar. TheBlueDragoon 22:34, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, Cactuar vs Tonberry has already been done, and those two are only fair matches if they're against each other, in my opinion. =P JohnnyC
I know. Its just not fair without both against each other. xD TheBlueDragoon 00:10, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Sephiroth vs Golbez Edit

As you know, these are the most infamous of the Final Fantasy Villains. These two are very manipulative and powerful, but who would be the last one standing in a clash of strength and ability.

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I find it slightly hard to believe that any other villain can be as infamous as Sephiroth. To say that Golbez is jointly the most infamous is probably not true. I'm not sure even Kefka is as infamous as Sephiroth.

P.S. Sign your damn proposals! -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 18:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Ok, Golbez is nowhere near as infamous as Sephiroth, even if he did come before Sephiroth. Second, sign your goddamn username and then drink your goddamn tea! TheBlueDragoon 20:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
If you remember, Golbez even turned out to be a good guy after he was released from that pesky mind control. He can't be a villain if he is doing evil against his will. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2-

Bartz vs. Gogo Edit

The two most known mimics/mimes in FF history (Bartz was a mimic in Dissidia). -Visitor

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  1. I'm gonna sign my own, you gotta a problem with that!?
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You're supposed to sign with four tildes, not by putting visitor!

Says the one who doesn't sign. Hypocritical dumbass. (You're right, though. "-visitor" doesn't count. "~~~~" does.) The.DreadnoughT 01:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Indeed. We need the full signature. Putting visitor doesn't cut it. TheBlueDragoon 02:16, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
How's this, then? The.DreadnoughT 03:16, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Perfect. I'll use that too. TheBlueDragoon 03:41, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
You know something? I think we could use a new Welcoming Box. Like this one, for instance. The.DreadnoughT 19:42, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
That's pure gold right there. TheBlueDragoon 21:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and, yes, I do have a problem: you didn't sign, actually, you voted. The.DreadnoughT 04:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. Sign your name username of IP address! I'm sick of looking at that eyesore! TheBlueDragoon 19:09, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Church of Yevon vs. Church of Glabados Edit

Battle of the corrupt Churches!

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  1. Mine -Nokareon
  2. Zak Undersn 20:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. It's nice someone started another organization fight, and seeing as I came up with yevon vs shinra, it would be wrong if I didn't support this.--Lordxehanort 19:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
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  • Obviously the concern here is that Church of Yevon would win, but I don't think it would be a landslide. Still, it's a main vs. spinoff, so meh... -Nokareon

Kefka Palazzo vs. Ultros Edit

Both awesome bosses. Both FFVI. Both crazy! But who is the best? YamiNoBahamut 14:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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1. Might as well support my own idea. Why not? YamiNoBahamut

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  1. First, Ultros wasn't crazy, just self-obsessed, with delusions (particularly of grandeur, but probably not just those;) second, Ultros is nowhere near being in Kefka's class: he ran away from a pictue of himself, has not characteristic cool laugh, isn't a final boss, or a main villain. This battle would have to be ended before it started by mercy rule. The.DreadnoughT 16:02, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. How the hell can you even compare these two? Kefka is a well loved villain and Ultros was a cowardly octopus who ran away from Relm's Sketch! You must be insane to think this would be a good fight. TheBlueDragoon 18:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Picture the scene: Ultros swaggers (as much as an octopus can do so) up to Kekfa and cracks a few pathetic puns. Kefka just stares at him for a few seconds, then does his Laugh™ and immediately carves Ultros into ten billion fragments with Light of Judgement. Methinks that's an easy victory for Kekfa, yes? -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 20:47, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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Johnny vs Weimar Edit

Both are NPC, both are mostly forgotten after their dialog box collapses, both are useless story-wise and both are ladies' men.

What, if Biggs vs. Wedge is a valid fight I don't see why this one wouldn't be. Zak Undersn 20:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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  1. Zak Undersn 20:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Eh, why not? At least there are tangible connections/similarities between the two, which is more than some proposals seem to bother with. Plus I know who I'd vote for, for a change -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 20:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Interesting concept for a fight. I support because its original. TheBlueDragoon 21:35, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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  1. See, there's a reason no one remembers those guys. Why would you vote for any of them ? -Alarielle- 22:16, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

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Bangaa Versus Viera Edit

A battle between two of the distinguishing races of Ivalice. The liza- er I mean Bangaa, and the bunn- er Viera. TheBlueDragoon 17:48, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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  1. I'm supporting my own. TheBlueDragoon 17:48, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
  2. Something new, how interesting Zak Undersn 11:56, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
  3. Interesting... The.DreadnoughT 22:08, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
  4. I'll support my adopted race. Bangaa Red Mage 07:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
  5. Neither have ninjas, but I like it. - Ninja of Wind Ninja of Wind2-
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