Week 210: Last Man Standing Round 17: Kuja v. Yuna[]
DEFENDING CHAMPION KUJA FINAL FANTASY IX Victor - 28½ to 19 |
LAST MAN STANDING |
CHALLENGER YUNA FINAL FANTASY X Defeat - 28½ to 19 | |||
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Peanut Gallery[]Having gotten to a certain point in Duodecim, I learned that Kuja was at least partially responsible for sabotaging Kefka's control over Terra, so that she eventually broke free of Chaos's ranks. Very well, I suppose I can fork over a few respect points for that. (But I'm still not going to vote in his favor. Certainly not when he's against beautiful, kind, and oh-so-caring Yuna, because of everyone who's stood against the silver wizard thus far, I really do consider Yuna to be my favorite.) SelkieMaiden267 04:52, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
I really hope we can get through this week without another ridiculous argument breaking out. The Peanut Gallery from the last LMS is just... ugh. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 05:38, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
Hey, maybe if Yuna wins this fight, her next LMS bout will force her to face off against one of her or her father's former guardians...or a much more dangerous foe. I've seen Jecht v. Golbez, Jecht v. Kefka, and Auron v. Sephiroth all on the current shortlist. How would that be if Yuna had to face Jecht or Auron, or maybe someone decidedly more sinister? EdgarXTerra4ever 18:51, August 19, 2012 (UTC) Even Garland (ff9) knew Kuja was a failure, which is why he created Zidane. Kuja was also too weak to muster any physical attacks at all, so he was forced to rely on the supposedly "inferior" Zidane to retrieve the Gulug stone of Oeilvert. Also, a mere frog was able to undo the "inescapable" traps at his desert palace. I've stood against Kuja every step of the way, and will continue to do so, until he has been purged from existence (or the DNC I suppose.) --Time Master (talk) 21:29, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
Well, I was simply arguing why he is a weak character (which he is). However, I can step away from that issue for now. I do not find him compelling at all. His flawed character isn't interesting or unique. He commits numerous hackneyed atrocities; including his desire for ultimate power (trance in this case) and his fear of his mortality, (reminds me too much of Xande's goal is ff3.) Thus, I conclude that no matter what way you look at it, Kuja is little more than a tragic character whose final fate in unknown; all too similar to many other characters in literature. --Time Master (talk) 22:15, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
I don't understand. After reading the votes for Yuna, what's with all this hate for Kuja? Where's the basis of this hate? Apart from Time Master who is actually the only person who manages to give valid reasons for his dislike, the rest of them seem as though they hate Kuja simply because he's winning these DNC fights. Cloudn 09:13, August 20, 2012 (UTC)
I think if Kuja wins the Last Man Standing, he should go up against the other LMS winner, Cecil Harvey. Now that would be a good fight. Who's with me? MATEUS 05:05, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
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Week 209: Yuna v. Serah[]
VICTOR Yuna 34 to 15 |
Now they get to run around in more and more revealing clothing, go through tons of strange sidequests and minigames, and are thrown into circumstances that less than sensible. But hey, at least there's a jump button now. |
VICTOR Yuna 34 to 15 | |||
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Peanut Gallery[]So... assuming Yuna wins, are we gonna have her in her X-2 Gunner picture next week? Skimpy mini-skirt vs Man Thong? King of Noobs 01:15, August 13, 2012 (UTC) In all fairness, SirLaguna, I think the only reason Serah wasn't messed up in the second game was because her part in the first was next to non-existant outside of "in the past" cut-scenes. King of Noobs 02:04, August 14, 2012 (UTC)
It's funny that you should say that Serah had barely any part in her first game. It's because of her Lightning highjacked a train in search of her, Sazh follows Lightning just to make it out alive, Snow turns the whole place into a battlefield to save her, which in turn causes Hope to get caught up in all of it, and makes them all turn into L'Cie, gaining uber-magical powers and starting most of the plotline. Lol. Meanwhile, Vanille and Fang are on their own agenda, which would be unaffected by the other's actions anyway. --UntoldSarcasm (talk) 07:00, August 14, 2012 (UTC)
Serah's White Mage costume is so much better than Yuna's.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 00:18, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
There's a lot of similarities in the girls as well. Say both of of them wear more revealing clothing in the sequels, and are quite soft-spoken. What's more, they have been kissed by their respective 'boyfriends' (though I doubt Tidus is considered Yuna's hun) --Nerdy geek bk (talk) 12:15, August 17, 2012 (UTC) |
Week 208: Last Man Standing Round 16: Kuja v. Cloud[]
DEFENDING CHAMPION KUJA FINAL FANTASY IX Victor - 37½ to 31½ |
LAST MAN STANDING |
CHALLENGER CLOUD STRIFE FINAL FANTASY VII Defeat - 37½ to 31½ | |||
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Peanut Gallery[]Scathe's currently incapable of accessing the internet, and so here I am, updating the DNC. Like this. Updating. Yeah. Anyways. Um. So. There's a, uh... fight. Yeah. A fight. And it's all up and stuff for you guys to vote on. Yup. Jimcloud 19:25, August 5, 2012 (UTC) Go on, Cloud. Finish what Zack started. (Again.) SelkieMaiden267 20:05, August 5, 2012 (UTC)
@Tetraninja: it's way, waaay too early to say that. Kuja's only down by four votes right now, by my reckoning. Now, if the lead was more like ten votes, then I might be inclined to agree. Wait until more votes start coming in. Jimcloud 20:14, August 5, 2012 (UTC) @Selkie: And being a pretentious twit is a bad thing because ... C A T U S E 22:29, August 5, 2012 (UTC)
@Kuja and @Sorceror: "You're annoying." (Sephiroth to Kefka) SelkieMaiden267 18:10, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
(From my earlier post) I have played and replayed FF9 all the way through, and I still do not like Kuja. A good villain does not leave the protagonist on another planet to prove his supposed "superiority" rather than outright killing him. Kuja's enormous ego (and hubris) is best noted in the (paraphrased) quote, "the world shouldn't be allowed to exist without me". What is meant to be "artistic" and "cool" comes off as snobbish, childish, and arrogant. That (among other reasons) is why I will (almost) always vote against Kuja. --Time Master (talk) 19:11, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
@92.237.204.12 - Dissidia 012. Cloud gets his butt kicked by Chaos. Then again, I think the way he defeated Sephiroth at the Nibelheim reactor proves one of two things: Either Cloud is exceptionally powerful, or Sephiroth is weak enough to be mortally wounded by a 14 year old rookie. MATEUS 04:13, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
Erm... I have the feeling that the three votes for Cloud by Cloudfan1998, Cloti4ever and Bagrisks98 are sockpuppets. All three accounts were made at the same time purely to vote at DNC within a short time frame, all three usernames are somewhat related (two include the date 1998, and two are related to VII), and the message "Cloud 4ever" is the same for two votes. Methinks it's another attempt to ruin poor ol' Kuja's chances in the vote. MATEUS 08:48, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
I would like to point out that Kuja is the only villain in the entire franchise that you never beat. In every single battle he fights you, he wins and knocks you out; he then kills you which shows that even killing the god of death won't make you powerful enough to kill Kuja who then saves you before you die again where he tells Zidane that all he really wanted was a chance to live. He has manipulated a world into complete chaos and disorder causing war after war and the destruction of two kingdoms, created an entire race of beings and a new specie of monster, destroyed a world out of pure anger and came quite close to destroying the crystal of another world.Sutebenukun 15:32, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
MORE CHEATING? For the love of Jenova... C A T U S E 01:24, August 9, 2012 (UTC) Huh. Was kinda hoping Lightning would have won the last one. Cloud's had enough time in the spotlight... Wonder if Caius will show up in here, and how he'll do. Caius is a boss, but I respect your opinion if you'd like to try and hate on me. --UntoldSarcasm (talk) 06:28, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
I guess you're right. Maybe you should look up a playthrough on youtube, or check his page on this wiki, lol. Kinda unrelated, but I'm still kind of angry about a post I saw a while ago on this site, about how FFXIII fans are getting grouped in with the FFVII fans. That's just not cool in doing that, give us a break lol. But yea, just out of personal curiosity, I'd like to see how he does. He'll probably lose, because everyone seems to hate the XIII's. Honestly, I started my FF fan-ness with XIII, just because it looked like an interesting game when it came out, and I heard good things about it. And they were right, it was awesome. Then there were OTHER final fantasys, and the rest is history. Can't we just like and respect ALL the games? --UntoldSarcasm (talk) 07:20, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
Um...why was my comment deleted? There wasn't anything offensive in the comment unless someone decided me saying that Kuja was the only villain in the series that was not at any point defeated by the party was offending them somehow... Sutebenukun 10:55, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
@Selkie: "He-Who-Doesn't-Deserve-To-Be-Named"? Okay, apparently you hate Kuja's pixelated guts and all, but isn't that a bit harsh even for a planet-destroyer? EdgarXTerra4ever 03:42, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
Heh, I don't even need to vote. It's pretty one-sided. Cloud's getting quite the beatdown here. --UntoldSarcasm (talk) 02:30, August 11, 2012 (UTC) |
Week 207: Cloud Strife v. Lightning[]
VICTOR Cloud 29½ to 23 |
VICTOR Cloud 29½ to 23 | ||||
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Peanut Gallery[]I would please ask that hateful/flame/spam comments be kept to a minimum. This also includes who may or who may not be overrated. It's a DNC fight, guys.- +DeadlySlashSword+ 05:09, July 29, 2012 (UTC) Wait, are we voting for the more overrated character, or is that just a joke...? MATEUS 05:48, July 29, 2012 (UTC) Good post Drake. The way Cloud was in FFVII has transformed into something odd, like a stereotype of himself, the nuances to his character lost along the way. I just wonder if Lightning is going along the same path. She currently is one of the bigger FF mascots, and the "badssness" is her signature trait. It started as her using it as a way to cope for hardships in her life, and I wonder if she will be robbed of the character development where she realises the extent this behaviour affects those around her or if it will just forever be "Lightning is badass and that's awesome". I suppose since that has become her image it would be hard to develop her to another direction and have her grow into a more mature way of dealing with hardship, lest fans will reject the change.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 13:12, July 29, 2012 (UTC)
I think I'll recuse myself from this match. I can feel the eyes of all haters of whomever I would have voted for on me. Besides, gives me a week to think of something snappy to say in my vote next week. King of Noobs 00:58, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
I can't do this. I just can't... I'm sorry. I like them both too much... @BlueHighwind: No, I think "Cloud v. Cloud" would be more like Cloud (Strife) vs. Cloud (of Darkness). "You dare face me with a clouded heart?"--SelkieMaiden267 19:04, August 5, 2012 (UTC) |
Week 206: Last Man Standing Round 15: Kuja v. Fang[]
DEFENDING CHAMPION KUJA FINAL FANTASY IX VICTOR - 30 to 17 |
LAST MAN STANDING |
CHALLENGER OERBA YUN FANG FINAL FANTASY XIII DEFEAT - 30 to 17 | |||
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Peanut Gallery[]@ L'cieBeast: Don't want to overstep my boundaries, but could you not use words like "gay fag" to describe a character? It's not as though Kuja is real, but the description is still kind of offensive. If you're going to vote against him because of how he looks, there's no need to use that kind of language. MATEUS 04:15, July 24, 2012 (UTC)
>People implying that only homophobes are annoyed by crossdressing or highly effeminate behavior. Also, gay =/= effeminate. Always fun to watch people analyze and condemn others' prejudices to make up for their own. Signed, an "ignorant" redneck gay guy --Shockstorm (talk) 19:47, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
I don't know if I should point it out here or send a PM to someone in the committee, but I did notice that a user who calls himself NeoExdeath has voted twice in the "Votes for Kuja" section (votes 20 and 27). Not to appear biased due to the fact that I cast my own vote for Fang this time, but I'm pretty sure that voting twice in the same fight is against the rules no matter who the combatants are. SelkieMaiden267 20:56, July 28, 2012 (UTC)
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Week 205: Fang v. Vanille[]
VICTOR Fang 23½ to 14½ |
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Peanut Gallery[]I did it! I managed to update the fight on time, and I even managed to do it without including the words "lesbian subtext"! Wait... DANGIT! Jimcloud 12:39, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
Abstain. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 15:59, July 15, 2012 (UTC) @Mateus: I know that Vanille's perky girl act is just an act. So was Eiko's. I don't see your point, it doesn't make me like her any more. Jimcloud 01:40, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
@Jimcloud: Ah, alrighty then. It's just that I see a lot of people give her flak for being upbeat and happy without even knowing she's pretending. That sort of hate should be targeted towards characters who actually deserve it... like Selphie, or Penelo. MATEUS 03:11, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
I don't find Rinoa annoying, nor Rikku, or Penelo. Eiko is tolerable, and Selphie is pushing the limit... but how do any of the aforementioned characters compare to the annoying that is Vanille? Vanille not only has the most annoying voice (paired with the most annoying accent) but everything she says is irritating. Not to mention that she suffers from the same thing that every other character of the story suffers from, which is whining non-stop. Maybe it's just because there's a lack of VAs, but is Rinoa really a "perky-girl"? Also I don't see how Penelo is either. As far as I recall she barely says everything and only really communicates with Vaan, and not in an annoying way. what does that even mean?79.69.195.171 15:04, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
To be honest, I do not think Rinoa is a "Perky Girl." There are some characters in the series I cant stand, like Yuffie or Rikku. However, I think both characters in this battle are pretty good, I use Fang in my primary party because she has the highest strength stat, obviously. Vanille, however is useful for death and easy to make a quick win on a battle. I honestly can not decide on who for this battle. Munk451 (talk) 12:14, July 21, 2012 (UTC) |
Week 204: Last Man Standing Round 14: Zack Fair v. Kuja[]
DEFENDING CHAMPION ZACK FAIR FINAL FANTASY VII DEFEAT - 19 to 35 |
LAST MAN STANDING |
CHALLENGER KUJA FINAL FANTASY IX VICTORY - 19 to 35 | |||
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Peanut Gallery[]Let's put it this way - in the original Final Fantasy VII (before Crisis Core revamped it), Zack was killed by three Shin-Ra soldiers. Kuja, on the other hand, got hit directly by Megaflare from Bahamut (the very same who destroyed Alexandria and Brahne's fleet), and merely laughed... MATEUS 05:13, July 9, 2012 (UTC) Maybe Zack won't be retiring after a fifth glorious win after all. Or maybe he would be winning if some hero-hating black mages hadn't cast their votes for Kuja? I don't know. Guess I must have overestimated the number of VII fanboys/girls in the DNC. SelkieMaiden267 (talk) 14:16, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
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Week 203: Golbez v. Kuja[]
VICTOR Kuja 22½ to 26 |
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Peanut Gallery[]I definitely did not lose track of the date playing Pokemon Conquest. That would be a silly thought, and only a silly person would entertain such a thought. Jimcloud 03:34, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
Not to be rude, but is the fight between Zack and Hojo still considered undecided? You know, despite the huge bloody sword embedded in the scientist's votes? Dogurasu 13:01, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
Golbez v. Kuja hadn't been done yet? I thought this was nominated like three years ago... must check. JBed 13:38, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
@SidVI: Well, he blew up a planet with his bare hands, he killed the party near the end of the game, he's (in my opinion) the most human villain with emotions and motives deeper than "I'm evil" (looking at you, Exdeath), and he looks great in a thong. MATEUS 01:56, July 3, 2012 (UTC) "Golbez can go to the moon! Can Kuja go to the moon?" Catuse, please. FFIX spoilers: Kuja goes to a whole other planet. And plunges it into war single-handedly through masterful manipulation. And then goes back to his home planet and blows it up. Kuja's a professional; going to the moon is for novices :3 -- Sorceror Nobody 18:18, July 7, 2012 (UTC)
Y'know, I never thought much of Kuja. Maybe I just felt he was overshadowed by Garland's awesomeness so I never took much notice. I <3 Garland. JBed 20:17, July 7, 2012 (UTC)
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Week 202: Last Man Standing Round 13: Zack v. Hojo[]
DEFENDING CHAMPION ZACK FAIR FINAL FANTASY VII VICTORY - 24 to 7 |
LAST MAN STANDING |
CHALLENGER Professor Hojo FINAL FANTASY VII DEFEAT - 24 to 7 | |||
With Zack very soundly tromping Zell during the week 200 special, he now faces his next challenge: Hojo. The mad scientist used Zack to further his ambitions, but Hojo deemed him a failure. Will Zack exceed Hojo's hopes and defeat him, or will the scientist's calculations turn out accurate? Who will be the last man standing? | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]This one's gonna be another one-sided victory for the unconquerable SOLDIER Zack Fair. Free bird 01:39, June 25, 2012 (UTC) Awww, look at the cwute widdle chibis :3 JBed 05:28, June 26, 2012 (UTC) @Nemesis: I'd like that myself - I hate, hate, hate hate HATE Hojo! Glad to see Zack kicking ass (like I predicted he would). SelkieMaiden267 19:30, June 29, 2012 (UTC) |
Week 201: Hojo v. Hollander[]
VICTOR Hojo 17 to 12½ |
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Peanut Gallery[]Like I said about Delita v. Sephiroth (when Celes awaited the winner of that fight), I don't care who wins this one; Zack will kick the ass of the so-called winner into two weeks from next Tuesday. SelkieMaiden267 19:08, June 17, 2012 (UTC) It might just be me, but Hollander's beard and hairdo makes me think of Jeff Bridges... 11:16, June 19, 2012 (UTC) |
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