Fight 180 - Last Man Standing Round 1:Leon v. Cecil Harvey[edit source]

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It would only make sense that the first two combatants would be the first two from the DNC's original format: Leon and Cecil Harvey, two early Dark Knights from the series. Who will prevail to fight on in Round 2! VICTOR
Cecil Harvey

Votes for Leon[edit source]

  1. I have never liked Cecil. ClixPsi 05:33, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  2. I love Cecil, unquestionably one of the most endearing protagonists in the series, but I hafta put my vote in for the original Dark Knight! Free bird 06:23, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  3. I'm voting for the one that waits more than ten minutes to cease being a dark knight. Master Conjurer 23:41, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Cecil's Good but Leon should take this one, from heving his home destroyed, he was able to take over and command an army --Pzykosiz 00:52, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Leon was the first in a long glorious tradition of Darth Vader copies in Final Fantasy. ----BlueHighwind 01:18, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
  6. I'll go ahead and give Leon some love since he doesn't seem to be getting much. I wasn't all that impressed with IV, for all the hype I hear for it. Lord Knight Xiron 03:34, January 7, 2012 (UTC)Lord Knight Xiron
  7. Hail to the original Dark Knight. --RAMRamallah 11:08, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

Cecil for Sure # 00:17, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Votes for Cecil[edit source]

  1. I dunno what Last Man Standing is, but I do know that Cecil is a much better character.C A T U S E00:04, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Tru that.. LegendCrystarium Crystal Lightning.pngAqua 00:28, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Cecil is the better character overall.Aaaaa.jpgThe Netherealm awaits for you 00:36, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  4. The armor, man. Can't be a proper Dark Knight without the right armor! King of Noobs 02:57, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  5.  < Kamikaze Pardee > 03:47, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  6. Drake Clawfang (talk) 04:36, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  7. オメガ Mk.XII 05:58, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  8. MateusNamelink.png Dissicon ff2 Emp1.png 06:12, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  9.  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1.png 06:50, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  10. --Occuria Summoner 18:40,January 1 ,2012(UTC)
  11. I have played to the end both Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy II, and I can say for sure, Cecil has more integrity, is more honorable, has better values, and more loyal to his friends and family than Leon.CecilAxel 21:28, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
  12. Cecil easy. Though all the 4th party members in FFII were much cooler than the main 3, Leon wasn't since he's the original real 4th and thus, just as boring as Firion, Maria and Guy.AnonyMan 04:15, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  13. The story of his redemption is sad but touching. Mierna 05:23, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  14. I do love Cecil when he's a Dark Knight. --Miyuron 07:39, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  15. Are You Serious! Is this a Joke? And what is this "Last Man Standing Thing"? I hope that this wouldn't go on for 2 months like the last poll did! Anyways Cecil FTW! KaiserPaladin 08:34, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  16. I like Leon and all but Cecil will outrank him in every way for me, he's my favorite dissidia character and since ff4 was the first ff i finished it has to be Cecil for me Kaintheflaminglancer 10:50, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  17. Cecil, certainly. Not only the first to bear the Darkside power that became a Dark Knight staple, but also a noble knight in his own right. Dogurasu 12:06, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  18. Another obvious winner. *sigh* LC 23:29, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
  19. I'm not into Cecil, but if it is about "Dark Knights" unfortunatelly Leon did "nothing" that is of the Dark Knights we know about. --BGMaxie 00:01, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
  20. Cecil will always be Cthulhu's favorite. --Thegreatcthulhu 03:00, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
  21. Is it wrong that I have a fangirl crush on this gorgeous, gorgeous man? Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 13:56, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
  22. Too easy... Dissidia 012 Chaos.pngCoolawitsDissidia 012 Cosmos.png 21:30, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
  23. Cecil is greater than Leon for numerous reasons; including becoming something greater than a Dark Knight, and not betraying the party to an evil ruler. Also, He was the character I used to kill Chaos in the original Dissidia. There is no contest here. --Time Master 00:59, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
  24. Light and Dark; Virtue and Sin.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2.png 01:23, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
  25. My FFII keeps stuffing up and I've never played as Leon before. Plus FFIV is pretty awesome anyway! KungKungKung 07:02, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
  26. 15:44, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
  27. I dislike Leon because he was actually stupid enough to try to displace Emperor Mateus as the supreme ruler of Palamecia and failed. Go Cecil! --Marael 21:21, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
  28. I like cecil and also leon...but i have to give more credit to cecil because leon doesnt appear in the whole ff2 until the end....all the hardwork was for firion,guy and maria...and i think minwu,josef,gordon or ricard were better party members than he was.--Lunar-project 01:20, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
  29. SomeDudE X 12:21, January 8, 2012 (UTC) Even tho Leon came before Cecil, cecil will always be the original dark knight in my opinion. SomeDudE X 20:20, January 8, 2012
  30. HotTacos7 02:23, January 9, 2012 (UTC) No offence to Leon, but Cecil had much more development and you don't get him in the last quarter of the game
  31. MystRay 01:50, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. To the sky! Blinking Blade! -- 00:40, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
  2. I like Cecil. -- 23:01, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
  3. We love you, Cecil 15:44, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
  4. 17:38, January 11, 2012 (UTC) Going to have to vote for Cecil. Besides, He is the main character in his game, unlike Leon. Leon is like the Bakura of his game (if anyone gets the reference to a certain anime parody I will be very happy : D )

Peanut Gallery[edit source]

Landslide, Cecil is so gona win.Aaaaa.jpgThe Nemesisx 15:05, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Enter all the Leon fans with a resounding chorus of CHALLENGE ACCEPTED. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 15:13, January 4, 2012 (UTC) XD.Aaaaa.jpgThe Nemesisx 22:39, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Personally I wonder if the inclination towards Cecil is because FFII is (comparatively) more obscure than FFIV. I could be wrong. Luacas 11:02, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

I'll agree to that. I grew up thinking FFIV WAS FFII, until I got my hands on Dawn of Souls. King of Noobs 03:04, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

'daaaaaw. This isn't gonna run late again, is it? D: C A T U S E04:26, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Just a heads up voters. I'm afraid all unsigned votes and votes in the wrong place will need to be removed. You can vote again, only please make sure to sign it. :)Keltainentoukokuu 19:28, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Fight 179: Laguna, Ward and Kiros v. Jecht, Braska and Auron[edit source]

Our staff can't be arsed to code for Oasis, click here.

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The FFX Crew
Years before the son saved the world,
the father and his comrades did the same.
The FFX Crew

Votes for Team Esthar[edit source]

  1. Laguna is so awesome and I think that he's hilarious. He is one of my favorite characters!! <3<3<3<3
  2. The man with the machine gun. ~Shadow Catuse's great risks 05:25, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  3. You could actually take part in these guys' adventures.Keltainentoukokuu 05:34, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  4. 06:40, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  5. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 19:40, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  6.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2.png 21:34, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  7. Voting for the better game and the better characters. SquallRocks FFXIII - Sprite-MadLightning.png21:57, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Me voting for the side that has Laguna and pals? Well that's just absurd!  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1.png 22:03, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Where's my FFVIII shooter prequel with Laguna? DiamondEdge 22:43, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  10. GlassAngel13 22:46, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Koharu Nami 22:51, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  12. FF8 all the way. --Sencilia 11:32, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Takes out baddies with guns! --Nerdy geek bk 12:13, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  14. I feel more connected with them for I actually got to us 'em Vercery 1:08, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Laguna and friends are superior to the other group. squall would not exist without Laguna, and time would be compressed. The SeeDs would be stuck in the d-district prison without Ward. Laguna might have been killed by a Ruby Dragon without Kiros. Plus Laguna is the president of the most technologically advanced nation in ff8. So he could easily best the spirans, with his resources. Furthermore, all three members of the other group end up dead at some point. Also, Jecht defects to the chaos side in the 13th cycle of dissidia, due to the emperor's manipulations,in the 12th cycle. A traitor, a failed warrior monk, and a summoner who gave up his own life do not make for a good group. Clearly, Laguna Kiros and Ward are far better, and benefited their world more than the other group, who simply brought and received death. Team Esthar all the way! --Time Master 21:12, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Gotta go with these guys. Braska's crew is cool for sure and a shame they weren't playable FFX doesn't have any cool playable characters(Old Auron's lame, Yeah,what?!). More style, more personality better camaraderie and interactions. And I guess "Man with the Machine Gun" helps.AnonyMan 23:10, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Must the battle just be because of strength? I thought these guys had a great dynamic, and you learn so much more about them than just ambiguous snippets like with the Auron, Jecht and Braska group. I liked these guys better, because they were humorous, and yet still a pretty decent group. It ain't just about who kicks who's butt, after all. Luacas 09:38, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Free bird 14:24, November 4, 2011 (UTC) Laguna, Kiros, and Ward all the way!
  19. Laguna is beast and thats all i have to say Kaintheflaminglancer 16:22, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  20. obvioulsy these guys WILL win and are the best team ever--Squall 2.0 17:07, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Laguna grew to be quite annoying when I went back and played this game when I got older, but his getting lost remained hilarious "The unfamiliar always happens, didn't your grandparents tell you that?" Yet, I really liked Kiros and Ward had a harpoon. I also dislike Jecht greatly. Easy vote here. --Gunji 04:08, November 12, 2011 (UTC)
  22. FF8 was my first ff game, gotta vote for team esthar, even if they have the wrong map and all the stomach cramps--{user:Rasma}
  23. I feel like Team Galbadia would actually lose in a fight against the other three, but Braska's too one-note for me, and Kiros is the man. Laguna actually makes a funny hero who's also a decent human being. LAGUNA POWNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I vote for Laguna Kiros and Ward.

FF8 was my first game ever! I love Laguna he is so funny! Kiros and Ward are great too! TEAM ESTHAR!!!!-[User-FFVIII201) Team Esthar Wins!

  1. Team Esthar forever! They've got... better storylines! --SWZala (talk) 03:40, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. Laguna is the best dad that you could ever wish for! With his leg cramps and whatnot. <3<3<3<3 ~ 7:14pm November 28, 2011
  2. Because they're awesome :D 22.54 November 2, 2011
  3. Laguna was my second best character in Duodecim, and Kiros is awesome. I never played X, and so.
  4. 20:40, November 3, 2011 (UTC) EXPAND YOUR HORIZONTALS! But, Laguna scored -3 on the manliness scale. This team is much more entertaining!
  5. 23:25, November 3, 2011 (UTC)Braska's team is cool and all, but I can't go against Laguna :D
  6. Go Laguna, Kiros, and Ward!
  7. Dani - Laguna, Kiros, and Ward all the way. Great characters, amusing, and pretty badass fighters.
  8. So much better than everybody else and FAR more entertaining! Plus, actually interactive
  9. They're so cool.
  10. Love laguna so much! 12.19 November 11 2011
  11. I liked Braska's team but I LOVE LAGUNA'S TEAM! GO GO GO!
  12. Cool daddy. 'Nuff said.
  13. well, i really like "man with the machine gun" theme a lot better than-... wait, did they have a specific kinda song? i also think they had much more dynamic and were more entertaining... though i do prefer tidus to squall, with the big daddys, i'd have to vote laguna and his team.
  14. My favorite game is FF8, and perhaps Laguna and his friends, though silly, may be one of the best trios! They get my vote though Team Spira is also awesome.
  15. laguna, kiros, and ward didn't die. plain and simple.
  16. 11:26, December 6, 2011 (UTC) I like how they didn't die. And I dislike the other three. :P
  1. Nobody can ever defeat this team, is just perfect, the funny guy (Laguna), the stupid one (Ward) and the clever (Kiros), and, incredible fighters the three of them.

Laguna Kiros and Ward!

Votes for Team Spira[edit source]

  1. Auron, need I say more? -- Mgold07 18:39, December 15 2011 (GMT)
  2. Team Spira... doesn't get leg cramps. --Nyves 01:55, November 27, 2011 (UTC)
  3. This trio has two badasses between them, not just one. Drake Clawfang (talk)
  4. I have stop voting here, but sense Drake set up this fight I might well vote here again!  NeoZEROX Dissicon ff6 Ter4.png 04:52, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  5. LegendCrystarium Crystal Lightning.pngAqua 05:31, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Three people to ironically defeat Sin for the win! Mierna 05:51, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  7.  < Kamikaze Pardee > 21:16, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Braska's a summoner, thus, can cast magic! Also, I wanna game with them! Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 21:31, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Team Spira, the fact they were all badass, and all looked down upon by everyone, just to rub it in everyone's face --Pzykosiz 22:02, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  10. User_talk:Ciccoslovakia) 18:04 November 2, 2011 (EST)
  11. MystRay 22:44, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Nothing beats Auron and Jecht. Braska is pretty cool too, but only because he can summon stuff. --Miyuron 00:03, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  13. ClixPsi 04:13, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  14. オメガ Mk.XII 06:40, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Team Spira is a +3 on the manliness scale. SidVI Dissicon ff7 Tifa2.png 13:34, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  16. This is the game that FFX should have been. Plus Yuna. Yuna x Jecht, by the way. --BlueHighwind 15:47, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Laguna's team is a pretty good one! So modern and everything... but still, I'm sure they could never beat a Brutal team like the Spirans (Summons, samurai swords, and Aeons...)... Sorry Loire! :-(--Lonely Wild Rose.jpg Rose 17:13, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Master Conjurer 18:39, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  19. This isn't a fair fight at all. The legendary summoner, and two badass swordsman vs a few elite soldiers. Although I hate to vote against one of my favorite band of heroes, these three would most certainly dominate in battle.Crunchy Moogle 22:41, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Auron! :D --Hotdragon 295 23:24, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Is this even a competition? Any single member of team Spira could beat the VIII crew, let alone all 3. Not that I don't like Kiros and my love for Laguna blossomed after Dissidia012. But really they can't compare. Hell they can't compare to YRP and I don't like them. Battlewise LKW is kind of crappy. Bahamut knows best 01:38, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  22. Because I like FFX and these three characters, I was actually thinking on how awesome it would be if they made spin-off with this three's story--Xabryn 11:06, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  23. MMLN メーマウリアン 16:50, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Rictisempra 22:55, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
  25. Any team Jecht is on will win!!! Biziorek 04:31, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  26. Easy choice, the bad-ass trio from one from one of my favorite FF titles. Never cared for Laguna anyway, i find his character a little too silly. TheWOL Dissicon ff1 WoL4.png 05:03, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  27.  Ultimate Gullwings logo.jpg Annihilation   17:29, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  28. Auron alone could beat them. Jecht is also cool. --RazielZero 23:49, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  29. Auron :3 Thundara 21:04, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
  30. Auron + Jecht = Winning Destriker73 11:39, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
  31. I'm really hoping for a X-0 about these guys. Plus I actually liked the regular storyline better than the flashbacks in VIII. AlVan 14:12, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
  32. FFX is the best!! I really hope just like AlVan that they make a game just for them! Can't wait for the re-make of FFX!!--ElivierAeternus 10:34, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
  33. Team Braska: 2 badasses and brought peace to the world, Team Laguna: 1 bad ass, and got nearly killed in a mission. hmmmm tough choice Judge Magister Pyarox 21:21, November 9, 2011 (UTC)
  34. I've nothing to say except MAKE THE FFX PREQUEL GAME ALREADY. --AuronKaizer! 14:51, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
  35. I'll second the above statement. --TeaTime 02:41, November 12, 2011 (UTC)
  36. Someone mentioned that Braska can summon giant things to smash people? (the GF don't even compare to his Final Summoning, in my opinion =D). (Master Lamington 21:49, November 13, 2011 (UTC))
  37. Simple: Final Fantasy X > Final Fantasy VIII....fact --XOneWingedAngelx 22:59, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
  38. Sorry Uncle Laguna, gotta go with the h4x team. (≧ロ≦) --Silver Mage 17:06, November 20, 2011 (UTC)
  39. Auron Jeckt and Braska would have been a great team for a Prequel to ffx plus other than laguna i dont like the other team but there song is awesomeUser: L'cieBeast 12:41, November 22, 2011 (UTC)
  40. I am voting just because I like Auron. --{{SUBST:User:Dark Heart XIII/Sig2}} 10:47, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
  41. Gangstas. bibliomaniac15 07:58, November 25, 2011 (UTC)
  42. FINALLY! A battle between DILF's! I'm so getting in on this! I vote for Team Spira mainly because of the fan service that is Jecht's outfit. --Marael 19:17, November 26, 2011 (UTC)
  43. Definitely goin with the trio from Spira on this one. I love the futuristicy feel from VIII, but nothing holds a candle to Blitzball. Zidane Tr1bal 5:49
  44. Damn straight. You know it. SteveTalk 02:25, December 13, 2011 (UTC)
  45. With all due respect to the opponent (well, not sure if I really feel any) TEAM SPIRA looks way more badass!!!! MUAHAHAHAHA! :D Revyielle 03:07, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
  46. I liked Laguna, Ward and Kiros but they have got nothing on High Summoner Braska and his guardions Auron and Jecht (we seriously need a FFX prequel so we can play as the three) Aaaaa.jpgThe Netherealm awaits for you 03:12, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
  47. PREQUEL! PREQUEL! PREQUEL!--KiraArik 00:16, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
  48. OccuriaSummoner16:30,December 19,2011(UTC)Go guys!
  49. LTFabrettiChocobo Dragoon.png 15:23, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
  50. Oh my... What we have to say? C'mon Braska can do a sending! He can't summon a FINAL

AEON! AEON! O__O' (Master Lamington 22:12, December 24, 2011 (UTC))

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. Team Spira seems to have the advantage cause Jecht can transform, Auron is already dead, and Braska can summon.
  2. Jecht wears a bandana therefore he is awesome
  3. 1 Auron and Jecht are major damage dealers and Braska has access to magic and summoning so go team Spira November 2, 4:51 PM
  4. Jecht, Auron, and Braska saved the world once. What has Languana and his group done, honestly? Michael November 2, 10:19 PM
  5. Two swordsman beat 3 gunners, thats obvious espcially when the swordsman are some of the most important characters. Plus Auron puts the badass in badass!
  6. As much as I love "Man with the Machine Gun" you can't headbang to it like you can to "Otherworld". Sorry Laguna!
  7. X>VIII 10:35, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
  8. 'Cuz these are cool guys.
  9. Team Auron 00:39, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
  10. Jecht alone is overkill for these guys throw in auron who again is overkill alone and braska and your basicly beating up children November 7 2011
  11. Just for Auron, probably the best fighter we will ever know
  12. Braska's final Aeon and magic sake. Aeons kill GFs any day so eat it Laguna!
  13. 15:51, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
  14. 23:21, November 18, 2011 (UTC) This might be one of the few times I vote for X over any other game. I do like Laguna, Kiros, and Ward, but these guys are a bit more badass.
  15. # 20:03, November 21, 2011 (UTC), Jecht would totally kick Laguna's ass.
  16. Jecht <3
  17. You have to love these guys. Especially Jecht.
  18. Go guys!
  19. Jecht in BFA form could handle a few mere guns if It can crack open the armour on a giant GODZILLA WHALE! let alone what Auron has done to people with guns throughout FFX and Braska can proably fight too.
  20. X>VIII.

Peanut Gallery[edit source]

TA deputized me to put up a new fight this week. That Auron-Jecht-Braska stuff was a pain to code properly. Why couldn't they just have one nice groupshot? Laguna and his friends were nice and considerate -_- Doreiku Kuroofangu 04:50, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't quite fit in the Oasis skin. Need it a liiitle narrower still.Keltainentoukokuu 05:32, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
Well that's your fault for using Oasis :) (ps - I already knew, didn't care, largely because it took about an hour to get those artworks aligned like that in Monobook, wasn't gonna redo it for Oasis). Doreiku Kuroofangu 05:40, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
NOTHING widescreen works in Oasis. Monobook is seriously the layout with the machine gun. ~Shadow Catuse's great risks 05:43, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

You may want to update this battle on the mainpage as well.Keltainentoukokuu 17:38, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Right, thanks. Doreiku Kuroofangu 17:57, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
I wasn't trying to be snarky or anything if that's how it sounded. I was thinking I could do it, but then, I've never done it before, maybe I'll do it wrong.Keltainentoukokuu 18:02, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
Oh not at all, I was sincere, I forgot to update it last night. Don't worry about it. Doreiku Kuroofangu 18:03, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

It just occurred to me, after this fight has been up for a couple of weeks, this could have easily been subtitled "Battle of the cool old dudes." King of Noobs 14:53, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Here's how I'd imagine the fight: Ranged+Support!Laguna, Physical+Speed!Kiros, and Physical!Ward VS Physical+Defense!Auron, Defense+Support!Jecht, and Mage!Braska. I cannot decide the winner due to the moveset options of both games. Pikmin Master 17:55, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, my idea has been put here! After all these months, I'm quite happy. I can't decide a team, actually... --Crimson Jealous 02:19, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Fight 178: Zell Dincht v. Snow Villiers[edit source]

Zell Dincht.jpg
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These pictures look similar
And so do the characters.

Votes for Zell[edit source]

  1. Chicken Wuss for the win!!! (ChadOnTifa)
  2. 03:16, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  3. YOU STUPID IDIOT - +DeadlySlashSword+ 03:24, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Oh yeah awesome!Keltainentoukokuu 04:57, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Well I'd vote Zell cause he's comic relief, while Snow...just isn't. I think I just prefer Zell for his part in the story. Luacas 12:21, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Mmm, hot dogs. --Sencilia 13:19, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  7. zell is funny, and has one of the best limit breaks in the game. give him max strength and use his basic inputs (booyah and punch rush) combined with meltdowneffect to do 9999 each hit, hitting 5 times per second if you're really good... do that for 5 seconds, that's 25 hits of 9999 dmg....he hits more then anybody else in ff8 (or any of the other ff-games, i believe). he wants to grow up to be just like his grandfather. hyyperactiveness ftw. User: Krikke 15.59, september 29, 2011 (UTC+1)
  8. BOOYAH Vercery 17:09, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  9. His game is actually worth a damn. Also, HOT DOGS. --AuronKaizer! 22:06, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  10. Moron vs Moron. Moron is a moron. Moron is not a moron. Which moron am I voting for? --BlueHighwind 23:57, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  11. SCROOOOOGE! Well, Zell has a T-Board and punches s*** up...Snow fights with a coat. I throw my hands up and say- SERAAAAAAH! Ya, Zell wins. Tia-Lewise 09:16, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  12. I hate Snow with a firey passion of a thousand burning suns that will melt him. SquallRocks FFXIII - Sprite-MadLightning.png01:46, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  13. The above vote says it all. MystRay 02:18, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Zell isn't engaged to a little kid, and with Junction he's no less useful in combat than anyone else. His Limits on the other hand are some of the most awesome and ridiculous looking stuff ever compared to one pitiful FullATB skill. His personality is cooler. ANYONE would seem annoying when Squall Stickinass is the protagonist.AnonyMan 19:14, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  15. He likes hot dogs. He has good taste. Catuse167 18:13, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  16. --Trindadex 17:40, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Omega Mk.XII 10:13, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  18. zell of course~his my final heaven totally pawn snow's souvereign fist #Aquila03 15:22, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  19. --Lonely Wild Rose.jpg Rose 20:25, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Zell has a more fun personality and is a great character to play. I find Snow to be a worthless egomaniac and an unneeded character since Fang is better than Snow in so many ways. I think a FFVIII without Zell would be a more boring game, whereas a FFXIII without Snow would be a better game. --TeaTime 01:52, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Final Fantasy VII.. 'nuff said Dodongray23 00:20, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
  22. VII wins my vote, hands down Button966 21:43, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
  23. Because... Because... AAAH HOT DOGS AAAH! Mister Tonberry 10:04, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
  24. I'v played VIII but not XIII. Zell is usually in my party when he can. NeoArcher ~My arrow is the last thing you will see~ 00:07, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  25. Yiazmat slayerz 10:07, October 24, 2011 (UTC)
  26. Free bird 19:49, October 26, 2011 (UTC) I LOVE FFVIII and I think Zell is a great character! Haven't played FFXIII.

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. 07:28, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Love Zell! My favorite character in VIII. 18:25, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  3. VIII>XIII91.203.96.118 23:15, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  4. 08:37, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Zell is the man! His tattoo is awesome! Plus when I didn't get Squall in my final battle, Duel single-handedly bet Ultimecia-- 06:25, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
  6. 19:52, October 9, 2011 (UTC)Zell is so much better than Snow. Also, Zell has a really great love side quest if you bother to look for it.
  7. LANDSLIDE! And also I think Snow is quite stupid name, oh come on, Snow? Did he ever think he's Snow White or something?
  8. This is like bad versus worse...However, I like my obnoxious ass buddy way better than the moronic loli lover with zero appeal. Go Zell, go! 03:06, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
  9. 18:45, October 29, 2011 (UTC) ZELL!

Votes for Snow[edit source]

  1. Koharu Nami 03:15, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Oh dear god what has become of me? But at least Snow is obsessed with a person and not hot-dogs. That gives him more points for me. Bahamut knows best 03:23, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  3. I'm sure being associated with the word "hero" is better than being with the word "chicken-wuss". Razordash03:55, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  4. @Razor:Definitely. Clarent--(真愛找麻煩) 04:04, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Consider them about equal, but Snow had a bigger impact on the plot than Zell did. ClixPsi 04:21, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Never played VIII, so Snow it is. A.J. two (Smashboards) 04:34, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  7. Interested to see Snow's role in XIII-2.  Kamikaze Pardee Dissicon ff5 Gil1.png 04:59, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Trindadex 19:22, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
  9. He has the Shiva Sisters! Another rather interesting note is the fact that he has a lot in common with one of my fanfic characters.  CloudyKrystal Dissicon ff7 Clo2.png 05:21, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  10. SidVI Dissicon ff7 Tifa2.png 06:20, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  11. ICE, ICE, BABY, and yeah He's got de Shiva Sisters! LegendCrystarium Crystal Lightning.pngAqua --VOTE IN THE LIGHTNING COLOSSEUM! 07:23, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  12. FFXIII > FFVIII. Besides Snow has a far better story and is more useful in battle. Not to mention he has a better personality. KaiserPaladin 07:33, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Wow this is hard, i love VIII and Zell but i love XIII and Snow more, The hero's always down!! TheWOL 08:33, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Eh, he has goals.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2.png 08:35, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  15. zell limit breaks are copys and hard to find compared snow's simple stuff --Squall 2.0 10:23, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Look at their pictures!They have same poses! Orpheus 17 03:37, September 29, 20ll (UTC)
  17. While Snow chases his female feyonce the whole game, Zell chases hot dogs. And they say Sephiroth is overcompensating for something. AlVan 22:00, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Better personality, larger variety of attacks without a stock usage, awesome trench-coat like armor that boosts his melee prowess. Perhaps my second favorite character in XIII. King of Noobs 03:47, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  19. "Hey, Sis..." "I'm not your sister." Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 11:24, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  20. -Henryacores^ 14:21, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Snow isn't a Mike Tyson wannabe. Oddly enough though, every time I play VIII, I give Zell Shiva. XIII Lightning 18:18, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  22. Snow gets my vote because I found him more useful than Zell. Also, Mr. Villiers was only annoying for part of the game, compared to Zell's obnoxious antics during the entirety of Final Fantasy VIII. --Time Master 03:49, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  23. Snow and Zell were pathetically annoying. But Snow did more than whine. And had a worthwhile memory. And freakish strength wasn't because he junctioned 100 Ultimas to his Str. And... User:Zakiel Mori 04:18, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Haven't played FF13, but Snow can't possibly be more annoying and stupid than Zell. Drake Clawfang (talk)
  25. SΓΣamyGoreng 23:33, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
  26. SnooooooooooW! Yaver 05:49, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  27. Snow helped me out a lot with his sentinel role. Zell wasn't much use to me and i rarely had him in my party.Kaintheflaminglancer 09:04, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  28. He actually has good reason for his "heroic" role. Mierna 11:43, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  29. ReteP 12:32, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  30. I like both of them... but Snow a little more. skygrinder14 10:39, )October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  31. --Hotdragon 295 19:09, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  32. Show doesn't take shit from anyone. --Pzykosiz 22:41, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
  33. I don't like either of them, but I'd take XIII over VIII any day. --Miyuron 16:39, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
  34. Makoenergy99 02:37, October 6, 2011 (UTC)He's a damn good Sentinel and helped me beat down Vercigetorix. Positivity practically oozes from him too.
  35. --RazielZero 11:18, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
  36. Snow is in love with an actual character with a name, personality and past, not some random librarian. He may not be bright, but he's not dumb enough to choke himself eating hot dogs. Not to mention, he's an actual badass, unnecessary bravado aside. 5:12 October 9, 2011 BartleJaymes(UTC)
  37. Zell is cool but snow is just a big teddy bear who i just want to hug no homoUser:l'cieBeast 18:15, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
  38. Rictisempra 00:31, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
  39. 17:01, October 12, 2011 (UTC) Rinoa Leonheart
  40. --Dark Heart XIII 09:39, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
  41. As one of like ten people on the planet that love all the long cutscenes, the gameplay, and well pretty much everything about final fantasy xiii i vote snow all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!--GlassAngel13 09:15, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
  42. Haven't played FF8, and snow is the best sentinel.  Ultimate Gullwings logo.jpg Annihilation   19:09, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
  43. ZealKnight 18:58, October 27, 2011 (UTC) I hate both characters, but I think Snow is a better character than Zell. Which isn't saying much. Just barely better at least.
  44. Akay4 21:28, November 1, 2011 (UTC)I Vote for snow because of his manliness

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. 04:04, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  2. 04:42, September 29, 2011 (UTC) Hate FFXIII love VIII, and though Snow will most likely be ranked far on many FF fans most favorite character list, I gotta admit that Snow is a better character.
  3. Snow is hot. Very, very hot. And he has a nice chest, so i'm voting for him. # 17:14, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
  4. zell was cool but kind of annoying! snow was just badass!!! 04:24, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Woo Woo! Go Snow!!! who needs weapons when your fists'll do? 18:28, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
  6. -- 18:15, October 23, 2011 (UTC) "HEROES NEVER DIE!!!"
  7. Yes. 01:18, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
  8. As much as I disliked 13, Snow was a good character among few. 02:55, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
  9. 22:42, October 29, 2011 (UTC)Dude with dead Chocobo on head = AWESOME!!! (FFXIII-2)

Peanut Gallery[edit source]

Thanks, Drake. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 00:58, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome TA. Also nice fight. Could I vote this one time, perhaps? :) Drake Clawfang (talk)
I think you have behaved yourself well enough that I would allow you to vote at this point. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 13:03, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
Yay! *claps*. Doreiku Kuroofangu 20:05, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... we could do with more "monk" characters in the main series. Gotta give props to characters who manage to fight barehanded no matter how many swords/spells/bullets/WHATEVER ELSE are being used. King of Noobs 03:48, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Both are some of my least favored chars, so I'll astain from voting The Rood Inverse 21:01, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

@Dodongray23: um, he's not from VII...Clarent--(真愛找麻煩) 00:23, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Fight 177: Faris v. Yuffie[edit source]

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Pirate versus Ninja.

nuff said...
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Votes for the Pirate[edit source]

  1. I know who's going to win. All the same, I'm voting for Faris. Dogurasu 05:41, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Clarent--(真愛找麻煩) 07:36, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Faris is awesome. Lost princess that grew up as a pirate and made it to captain? Hell yeah! Also, FF V is seriously underrated on the Wiki. MirrorshardSceada 08:30, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Mirin' her purple hair. LC 09:20, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  5. I love both games and both women. So, I'm casting my vote for the current underdog. Let's make this match a real close one! --ClixPsi 11:36, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  6. 12:12, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  7. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 13:21, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Yar har, fiddle dee dee... --Leon95 13:51, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  9. I love Ninjas more, and Faris is not anything special... just... because!:-D--Lonely Wild Rose.jpg Rose 18:06, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  10. Yuffie stole my materia :( Kaintheflaminglancer 19:29, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Faris is simply rocking that trench coat and armor.--StragusLore 19:47, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Arr, where be the rum? Seriously though, I'll go with the Pirate. I always did like the open ocean myself... King of Noobs 21:07, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Faris, just cause she's not annoyingPzykosiz 04:14, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  14. No contest. Faris is from V therefore she's one of the coolest characters of the series. And actually a very likable toughguy-type. So what if she's not "feminine" enough, who cares? She's a pirate. She's also a better Ninja thanks to her Jobs and a better Dragoon than Kain(Yeah I said it).AnonyMan 21:45, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Look, the world has too many ninjas already. SquallRocks FFXIII - Sprite-MadLightning.png23:40, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Everyone is going to vote for Yuffie because she is in FF7. Give the pirate some love!CecilAxel 01:24, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
  17. She is like Light and I like that. They even have purple-pink hair! -=Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 18:23, September 8, 2011 (UTC)=-
  18. Munk451 20:28, September 8, 2011 (UTC) Anything but Yuffie!
  19. Faris had guts, especially considering her appearance into the game (and the all-too-humorous reveal) and I think her story was one of the best things about her character (although it could be say it'd also be the weirdest part) Nuff said, my vote goes to her. Luacas 10:36, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
  20. I absolutely cannot stand Yuffie and Faris is simply awesome anyways. --Miyuron 12:37, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Ok seriously, this is no contest. I’m a fan of ff7, love it to death. But the one thing I just can't stand in that game was Yuffie! Hell, she steals all of your materia from you and makes you go on long sidequest just to get it back (and yes, I do realize you don’t have to do that quest but really, what else is there for Yuffie to add to the plot. Nothing, that’s why) Anyways, my vote is Faris all the way. One she’s a pirate that you can change into whatever you feel like having her be. Secondly, she’s an important character rather than some miscellaneous one. And finally, she kicks ass whereas Yuffie makes you want to kick hers. Vonoran 15:46, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
  22. -lolz - Henryacores^ 21:39, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
  23. --BiggsandWedge 01:21, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Crunchy Moogle 11:39, September 10, 2011 (UTC)Faris, if only because anyone in Final Fantasy V can master all jobs and become epic freelancers. That said, Faris can be a master Ninja Pirate.
  25. Peachesonfire2012 2:28, September 11, 2011 Everyone thought Faris was a dude for the first like 30 mins of the game. then even after finding out she was a chick she was just as bad-ass. Yuffie is just some wannabe ninja who steals materia caz she thinks its kool. you tell me whos gonna win this battle. oh and Faris's owned a freakin sea dragon. now thats Bad-ass.
  26. when compared to yuffie she was original. faris's design is just awesome. besides she can become a ninja with all of her ablilities BartzKlauserV 23:26, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
  27. Faris could beat a thousand Yuffies. This vote isn't even about Pirates or Ninjas. A Faris of any class could take on a thousand Yuffies.--Otherarrow 12:46, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
  28. User:violagirl33 Yuffie just annoyed the crap out of me. And she stole my materia, and she's not really a ninja. Faris is a bad ass pirate who can boss around any guy she wants to.
  29. Drojanlex 20:59, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
  30. Sometimes I think her name should be Farith This woman is win! Mierna 14:42, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
  31. OH-HOHOHOHOHOHOHO!! --BlueHighwind 02:38, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
  32. "Pirates Ahoy!", arguably Faris' theme, is cooler than Yuffie's theme. heh. I can't draw on any character merits since I never played 7, heh. --InsanityBringer 03:47, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
  33. Faris and Pirates all the way! Judge Magister Pyarox 12:30, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
  34. Yar - har - fiddle-dee-dee, being a pirate is all right with me! Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate! You are a pirate! DiamondEdge 01:20, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
  35. Ujyl 04:10, September 26, 2011 (UTC) Yuffie was hidden for a reason. :/

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. 09:26, September 6, 2011 (UTC) even though ff7 is my favorite ff yuff is one of my least favorite characters and faris kicks butt so my vote is for faris
  2. 23:02, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  3. 21:50, September 7, 2011 (UTC)Grew up with Final Fantasy VII, and while I'm more likely to vote for ninjas against pirates, I have to say Faris. I think I like Yuffie better, but Faris was the better character.
  4. -- 09:37, September 8, 2011 (UTC)Faris fights like ladies who dress like men.
  5. 18:24, September 8, 2011 (UTC) Faris kickass while Yuffie are annoying like hell. Enough perky girl like Yuffie, kind of girl that they recycling it into another annoying character like Rikku, Yunnie and Vanille, while Faris remain the original "Girl who dress like a man" with adequately sense of humour. What do you expect? She's daughter of the Highwind!
  6. 22:27, September 10, 2011 (UTC) This was waayyyyyyyyyyy too hard a choice! Both badass females of the series, both awesome in their own right. My vote goes to Farris because it was 32 to 33, and my vote makes it even (until the next vote anyway)
  7. 01:33, September 12, 2011 (UTC)I love Faris way more than Yuffie!
  8. Love Yuffie, but this is your fight, Faris. Win it! 23:10, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
  9. 14:41, September 20, 2011 (UTC) Every character with dragon in his/her possesion are badass by nature. Ricard, Kain, Fang and of course Faris with Syldra the sea dragon.
  10. 00:17, September 23, 2011 (UTC) Tomboyish pirate princess beats annoying ninja
  11. Enough of FFVII's religious cult. I don't even know who is Faris, but FFVII characters are all cheated.

Votes for the Ninja[edit source]

  1. I like Ninjas. And I like VII. Koharu Nami 04:43, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  2. One of my favorite Ninjas, "Believe it!"-*shot*.  Kamikaze Pardee Dissicon ff5 Gil1.png 05:03, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  3.  CloudyKrystal Dissicon ff7 Clo2.png 05:09, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  4. I vote for Yuffie because she has a Conformer, the best weapon in all of FF. That's all. Catuse167 06:30, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Just cos LegendCrystarium Crystal Lightning.pngAqua --VOTE IN THE LIGHTNING COLOSSEUM! 07:23, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Cute Ninja > female Pirate pretending to be a man--Xabryn 12:08, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  7. I never played FFV and I grew up with FFVII. Yuffie is awesome! --Sencilia 13:05, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Not that I like her more than Faris, but... Ninjas > Pirates. So much. Seriously. Mynameissora 13:30, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  9. SidVI Dissicon ff7 Tifa2.png 14:02, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  10. I like my women to try to be women.  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1.png 18:14, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Yuffie I choose to have in my final party. Faris, I have to have in my final party. MystRay 19:07, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Rictisempra 19:35, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Even when I play V, I'd probably vote for Yuffie. AlVan 21:57, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Giant Shuriken... 'Nuff said. Vercery 22:42, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Faris is barely a woman, Yuffie on the other hand.. TheWOL 06:35, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Lets go Wutai Ninja!!! Biziorek 08:46, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Easy. --RazielZero 17:12, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Omega Mk.XII 06:46, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
  19. I vote for Yuffie because she has the same date of birth as me!!--ElivierAeternus 12:43, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
  20. I'm voting for Yuffie because I prefer Ninjas over pirates; and I always thought Yuffie was a decent character despite stealing my materia and putting it back wrong in ff7. Also, I haven't liked Faris (and still don't) since I got to the point in ff5 where it is revealed she is not a man. Crossdressing doesn't earn her any points with me. --Time Master 21:40, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Only voting for Yuffie because I have no clue who Faris is nor do I really care. Plus Yuffie was really cute in Crisis Core if a bit of a cry-baby. --Marael 20:36, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
  22. MMLN メーマウリアン 17:07, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
  23. I'm currently playing FF V and having played FF VII i think Yuffie deserves to win, i just like her more than Faris. Yaver 04:39, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Ninja beats pirat. + I like yuffie eaven though she's kind of anoying some times The Rood Inverse 13:35, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
  25. "The stars shine so bright, like glowing materia ... Reach up and grab one." --Gunji 02:30, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
  26. NINJAS!!!Makoenergy99 8:11, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
  27.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2.png 13:27, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. 04:50, September 7, 2011 (UTC) Doom of the living = win. All Creation...not so much :P
  2. Love her side quests in Crisis Core! 02:32, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Two words: Awesome Ninja-- 20:42, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
  4. 05:58, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
  5. 08:27, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
  6. I just hate Pirates-- 23:47, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
  7. Yuffie all the way.-- 15:05, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Yuffie is like ten times better than Faris will ever be. Yuffie 4 the win!-- 21:54, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery[edit source]

Beatrix is gonna completely humiliate Yuffie, not for the reason I put down, but because people play FF7 more than FF5. Catuse167 06:33, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Where does Lady Beatrix fit into all of this? Dogurasu 04:53, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
Whoops, why did I write that? I meant Yuffie humiliating Faris. Never mind the line about Lady Bea. But I'm surprised -- Yuffie is having a very near victory, and I thought she'd decisively win. Catuse167 04:36, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, as I write this, Faris has a marginal lead. Seems like we have a real fight on our hands! Dogurasu 19:40, September 12, 2011 (UTC)
When I suggested this fight, I didn't realize how close this battle would be --Pzykosiz 03:26, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Firstly, lol at the first post. Secondly, no one cares if you like VII better than V, the fight is between Faris and Yuffie, not their games. Thirdly, bet you can't guess what sound a llama makes.# 04:56, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

You responding to me? If so, then firstly: The part where I mentioned Lady Bea was a typo resulting from staying up too late at night. Secondly, I mean that not enough people have even heard of Faris for a fair vote (although I was wrong! Faris is winning, go her!) and thirdly, I can't. :P Catuse167 22:40, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum! Clarent--(真愛找麻煩) 09:47, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

This is rough. If someone usually asked me pirates verses ninja it would be pirates, but Yuffie is one of my favorite Final Fantasy characters--Gainsboroughsephiroth 17:39, September 8, 2011 (UTC).

The odd thing is, I generally go with ninja's, but I'm siding with Faris --Pzykosiz 03:26, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

" 01:47, September 7, 2011 (UTC) Faris, if only because anyone in Final Fantasy V can master all jobs and become epic freelancers. That said, Faris can be a master Ninja Pirate." I never thought about that at all. Kudos points, anon voter. King of Noobs 18:05, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Do remember this is not where you vote.

You know, discounting annoyances and nuances is play between V and VII, the two actually are similar. They both rebelled in their own way. Faris left the throne for her sister when given the chance, and Yuffie went behind the backs of Wutai to attempt to restore it. I'm sure this fact will be overlooked when counting the characters, so the real question comes down to who's the more liked rebel. Luacas 03:22, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Are my eyes deceiving me? A V character holding their own, and in fact leading (though not enough to "win,") against a VII character? I never thought I would see the day... King of Noobs 21:03, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really all that surprised honestly, it's kinda hilarious still. Everybody is finding out these days Final Fantasy VII is not the only Final Fantasy that exist. Razordash14:56, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Fight 176: Llednar Twem v. Beatrix[edit source]

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Two (sometimes) antagonistic knights, both of them kind of powerful when you meet them. Question is, if you could have them on your team (and keep them), which would you prefer. WINNER!

Votes for Llednar Twem[edit source]

  1. I don't often make pity votes, but since I might be one of the few who actually knows who Llednar is... <_< FFTA was my first FF anyway, so I would never have been introduced to the lovely Beatrix if Mewt's alter ego hadn't come along first. 8bit 01:41, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  2. I'm a greater fan of Tactics than I know. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 04:06, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Llednar!!! :D Hey, guys, no hate on Llednar just 'cause you don't know him. Mynameissora 12:17, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  4. It looks like one more vote won't change the world,but what a coincidence: I've just started playing FF Tactics advance through, and guess what? It's GREAT! I thought these "Sidestory" games are not worthy to try, but hey, I just can't put it down! Soon I'll meet this guy too, and whoa...!, hope he'll be strong as hell! :-D--Lonely Wild Rose.jpg Rose 14:51, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Honestly this fight is almost a waste of time... and i think FFIX is overrated, so Llednar for me (i really did play FFTA) TheWOL 13:17, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Beyond evil. Beyond absolute evil. SidVI 12:41, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
  7. As I believe Beatrix will crush this guy, and everyone is voting on him because of stupid reasons, I'll do the same. ¬¬' - I'm voting on him because Beatrix can't use Climahazard. (Master Lamington 23:04, August 12, 2011 (UTC))
  8. Firebat 11: 45, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
  9. I don't know Beatrix much, so my vote goes to Llednar. Kuzlalala FFTA2-FrimeldaSprite.png 09:43, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. Sympathy for the under dog talk about a one sided fight still did love tactics more than 9

Votes for Beatrix[edit source]

  1. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L
  2. This is a joke, rightAlVan 23:23, August 7, 2011 (UTC)
  3. While I must say that Llednar is an incredible enemy, I just can not bring me to vote against my fair Rose of May. Sorry Llednar, but the lady here is just too though for you to beat. MirrorshardSceada 23:25, August 7, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Beatrix is one of the greatest characters from my favourite game; for me, this is not a difficult decision. 23:50, August 7, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Beatrix had a bit of character development along with being in a better game. You can never win against her in a fight because she is very strong and she is also more beautiful than Llendar's handsomeness. Overall she is a strong paladin with a strong heart, and ends up doing what is right.CecilAxel 00:02, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  6.  Kamikaze Pardee Dissicon ff5 Gil1.png 00:20, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  7. Am I high?  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1.png 00:23, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  8. While I don't dislike Llednar, this fight is... rather out of it.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2.png 01:18, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Ujyl 01:22, August 8, 2011 (UTC) Llednar who?
  10. I actually disliked Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, even though I loved Tactics and Tactics A2. Weird, huh? King of Noobs 02:11, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Llendar is the lord of douches. - Henryacores^ 03:13, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  12. You're kidding right? No competition... Vercery 3:24, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Beatrix is one of the best characters from IX, hands down, which has one of the best casts from the series. MystRay
  14. To her, you're all insects! she will crush you and your delusions of Grandeur, you shall fall before her mighty stock break. otherwise...have a nice day! :) Razordash 13:12, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  15. HAHAHA, seriously. LC 16:11, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Kaintheflaminglancer 17:34, August 8, 2011 (UTC)Never played ffta (only fft game i haven't) and besides I loved the small moment in ff9 when you actually got to play as Beatrix, so i'm voting for the strong, beautiful knight
  17. When Beatrix appear in the game, the story always turns completely, beatrix is the real example that womens are strong and determined.
  18. Who? SquallRocks FFXIII - Sprite-MadLightning.png19:38, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  19. Llednar is cool, but Beatrix is one of the best characters ever. --Miyuron 21:31, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Not only is she a more awesome warrior she pretty much became that way on her own merits. Llednar has help being the overwhelming force he is. Excellent musics that play when she's around help too.AnonyMan 21:50, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  21. MMLN メーマウリアン 22:04, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
  22. I like genocidal maniacs with eye-patches. ClixPsi 00:52, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
  23. Not even a fight... Dogurasu 04:11, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
  24. A warrior who knows when it's time to side with the right people. And one with an amusing side-story too! Luacas 12:39, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
  25. One of the best characters in a Final Fantasy game. She has cool moves, a beautiful theme, a great side-story, and she's a wonderful character, showing both strength and beauty. Violagirl33 01:58, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
  26. I'm not that hyped about Beatrix, but she is definitely better. --RazielZero 10:11, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
  27. If it weren't for the fact that, Beatrix, was quite possibly one my most favorite characters in the Final Fantasy universe, as well as the fact, that, she is much, much, stronger for the amount of time you get to use her, Final Fantasy IX, very well grinds the Tactics game into dust. As such, Beatrix, is easily my choice for this one. XxGuado_SeymourxX 12:23, August 11th, 2011 (AEST)
  28. It's almost sad ho unevenly matched this is Beatrix all the way.User:L'cieBeast 20:17, August 10, 2011(UTC)
  29. Sunano 22:14, August 11, 2011 (UTC) Boobs :D
  30. She beats you every stinking time, for crying out loud!!! This is too easy!!! Catuse167 02:20, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
  31. Beatrix by far Pzykosiz 00:15, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
  32. I'm voting Beatrix because she is a potent ally (or enemy) and is a good character overall. Her role in the plot, paired with her skills and theme music leaves Llednar in the dust. I don't know who the other guy is because the only ff tactics game I've played is ffta2; so it helps her standing, if only by a bit. --Time Master 04:52, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
  33. Ok so first time voter, but anyone with a brain can tell that beatrix is better in many ways. one majorly is being in a better game :P Peachesonfire2012 21:37, August 15, 2011
  34. I've never even heard of the other person, so . . . GO BEATRIX! GET INTO DISSIDIA ALREADY! A.J. two (Smashboards) 08:01, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
  35. Go Beatrix! UltimateAnnihilation 20:14, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
  36. recino What the hell is a hufflepuff Llednar Twem? P.s. why didn't she make the Dissidia 012 cut?
  37. beatrix!!! Biziorek 02:52, August 20, 2011 (UTC)
  38. RenoZellRikku 07:13, August 20, 2011 (UTC)
  39. Final Fantasy IX FTW. Bethanasia 18:01, August 20, 2011 (UTC)
  40. Its already bad enough that a FFIX character is fighting a FFTA one, which means the FFIX one wins. Its also Beatrix, who isn't exactly disliked. This isn't a fight, this is an execution. --BlueHighwind 01:14, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
  41. I've nothing to say. Except, "what the hell, fight suggesters." The DNC is a place for CANON, not this fanon crap. --AuronKaizer! 00:27, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
  42. I would have to say Beatrix because she starts off with some of the strongest movesets for a knight in the game and She has the third second strongest weapon in the game (God Save the Queen) which you can only get through synthesizing with Hades which I'll let you know is not a fun optional boss fight. I would have to say if it wasn't for Ozma he would be the strongest boss in the game. --Gainsboroughsephiroth 06:59, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
  43. This is one though girlknight! --Grimnir85 15:42, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
  44. Goo Rayder 12:30, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
  45. I vote for the FFIX character!--ElivierAeternus 07:27, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
  46. LegendCrystarium Crystal Lightning.pngAqua 12:49, August 29, 2011 (UTC)
  47. I have played both FFTA and FFIX, Llendar comes out after 3/4th of the game, and his role in the game is barely significant. Compared to Beatrix, who climhazzards your party's face, leaving them with 1 hp, and in the end, she joins your party to give you some good equipments, and ITS A SHE. HighSeraph 4:12, August 30, 2011 (UTC)
  48. Heh, i like TA, but i like IX a whole lot more Yuffie2211

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. i would vote for any ff9 character it has my favorite soundtrack
  2. I liked Beatrix's character and belive that she is one of the best strong willed lady's in the final fantasy universe....easily the best looking girl in IX imo!
  3. 22:50, August 11, 2011 (UTC)My favorite ff character of all time! She has got to win! She's superior in every way!
  4. This fight is kind of stupid. Anyway, Beatrix has an awesome skillset, and can use Thunder Slash in a way Steiner can't (thank you very much, Thunder Slash Bug). In addition, Rose Of May is just incredible. She's noble, loyal, and the best swordswoman in the continent. Beatrix puns this guy.
  5. There is a plethora of men who dressed strangely, even femininely, in the Final Fantasy universe, and pulled it off, actually looking GOOD. Llednar is not one of those men. He simply fails.
  6. seriously? is this a joke fight?
  7. Shock. Nuff' said.
  8. The kid doesn't stand a chance against Beatrix. She's noble, loyal, hot and kicks major ass!
  9. I like her noble bitcheness!!!
  10. 03:05, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
  11. 08:51, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
  12. 21:50, August 15, 2011 (UTC)Beatrix FOR THE WIN!!!
  13. 22:51, August 16, 2011 (UTC) Great soundtrack, great character, great fighter, great boss, and a great game overall. Beatrix wins.
  14. Climhazzard! Shock!
  15. FF 9 is my Fav so
  16. GO BEATRIX!!! 13:24, August 23, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Whoever suggested this fight is an idiot. Beatrix would be ashamed to fight a wimp like that. She will always be the better fighter against any FFTA characters.
  18. Llednar, dude, Beatrix kicks your sorry butt in a split second. You're a dude, right?
  19. No competition what so ever between these two. Beatrix wins no doubt.
  20. 04:28, August 30, 2011 (UTC) Beatrix is in a main series game. Llendar is in tactics advance which will never stand up to one of the XIII PROPER Main series games (No I do not see XIV as a main series game) Tactics WotL is the one true Tactics game. Even though I have not IX Beatrixholds a special place in my heart because when I was little and my mum played IX, Beatrix was the first Final Fantasy game character I ever learned the name of. Final Fantasy is the greatest series ever :)
  21. I feel sorry for Llednar, though he was pretty tough he just seemed like sort of a brat compared to the knight that you never actually beat in combat

Peanut Gallery[edit source]

Lol, I though Llednar was a she. Clarent--(真愛找麻煩) 08:17, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I guess I'm not the only one.  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1.png 02:43, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well, this is sad. I just hope one day I can see Ramza Beoulve win in a fight such as to heal my soul of this fight's scars. Hallow XIII 12:06, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can we just end this now behind a woodshed and move on to another one, this is getting sad.Durmer Darc 16:38, August 21 2011 (UTC)

No, we must drag it around and beat it on the ground till it turns into a bloody, gooey mess. Then we move on. King of Noobs 13:23, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
It already is: Beatrix is winning 67 to 10. Not that I'm surprised; Stock Break is just too lethal. Catuse167 01:13, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
User Talk:TacticAngel, kiddies. Drop 'im a line if you want it updated. Drake Clawfang (talk)

Week 175: The Emperor v. Galenth Dysley[edit source]

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The Emperor
You are Niccolò Machiavelli. You wrote a book about some royal son. A lot of people thought you were a real jerk for it, but two notable leaders both read it: The Emperor and Galenth Dysley. Their empires are about to clash. Their forces, while different, offer them no true advantage of the other. In military might and economic strength they are equals, but they are ruled by two very different men. Who embodies the cunning, the wisdom, and the necessary duplicity to win? WINNER!
The Emperor

Votes for The Emperor[edit source]

  1. Cool, my fight got in! Anyway, I'm voting for the Emperor because it took several cities worth of resistance to finally take him and his army down. And when you think he is finally gone... BOOM he comes back and is stronger than ever! He also destroyed several cities and killed multiple playable characters. (even if it was indirectly). Finally, it took the Ultimate magic and the protagonists journey to "heck" to take him down for good. Dysley may have been fought multiple times, but he died before the last boss. The Emperor IS the last boss of FF2. Dysley may have indirectly killed many people though the Purge, but no cities were destroyed. His actions ALMOST destroyed Cocoon, but were ultimately unsuccessful. Also it took the combined might of many to form the resistance that took down the Emperor, but Dysley was stopped by six Pulse L'cie. I think Dysley is a powerful antagonist, but the Emperor beats him here. Also, I feel like Emperor Mateus is going to need the votes. --Time Master 01:01, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  2. He goes to hell, beats up Satan, and becomes the emperor of Hell in an instant. Soon enough, he raises Pandaemonium onto the surface, and this is like, all, in the last three-four hours of gameplay. Before this party gets started he's busy taking out the rest of the world, laying three kingdoms and three small villages to waste in his wake. He ordered the construction of an airship which eliminated large amounts of the population in four towns, and devised cunning plans, such as poisoning the water for the Wyverns. He's a bit gruesome and cruel, but it's clear that this is what leads him to victory against anything that isn't a playable character. --InsanityBringer 02:08, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  3.  CloudyKrystal Dissicon ff7 Clo2.png 02:22, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Meh.Dogurasu 05:18, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  5. The Emperor is a vicious, heartless, merciless, cunning bastard you want to stab in the eye. Simply put he is an amazing villain, probably one of the best in all FF games, despite his pretty cliched motive.. theWOL 14:38, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  6. What's with the damn long explanations? LC 10:10, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  7. I wasn't really sure which one I'd vote for, but after reading the comments on this side I was pretty much convinced.  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1.png 10:55, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  8. I may love the Superpope, but I refuse to vote against my Dissidia 012 Main. To be so manipulative... it's a thing of beauty, you know. King of Noobs 13:12, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Kaintheflaminglancer 15:55, July 6, 2011 (UTC)The Emperor mainly for his Dissidia play-style, I'm bad with most of the Chaos allies but he is my favorite.
  10. --LTFabrettiChocobo Dragoon.png 16:55, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Ok, I will be honest: I've not played the 13th game yet, and I don't know the old guy at all, and his look doesn't impress me so much, but I DO know the Emperor, and he is one of my favourite characters! Really! I mean, look at him! His design: That gold armor with an extreme purple robe! Classic High heels, (This was a basic wear for men in the XVII-XVIII Century!), and that hair, well, I know that was a inspired by David Bowie, but Amano redesigned it so much better, with those cool horns (What is probably a part of a his headgear or crown!), and his personality, his cold cruelity dressed in fine elegance, Everything is so well designed on him! In Dissidia he is also one of my favourites, and even in the main game, he rocked. His story was great! One thing I've never really understood about him, is that he was looking for world domination. If he could have been the ruler, he was satisfied, then why did not the rebel army surrender to him, and the story could have ended much faster, without so much good guy's death! (Ummm, maybe I'm not completely right about the story, but did he want to create a demonic world for only himself? Ok... If someone knows, just tell me!:-D). Ok... i wrote enough words already...One more thing: I know that it's not fair to give vote for someone, just because you don't know the other, but I'm sure, that THE EMPEROR, THE MAIN VILLAIN OF FINAL FANTASY II is much more powerful, than an old gramps' dressed into the outfit of a dransgender pope... so this fight will end with the EMPERORS ABSOLUTE DOMINION! Every hail the EMPEROR! --Lonely Wild Rose.jpg Rose 17:23, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  12. MMLN メーマウリアン 18:03, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  13. CecilAxel I liked him WAY better than Galenth 18:43, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  14. He became the ruler of hell, isn't that enough to show his dominance? NeoExdeath 19:07, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Vercery 19:19, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  16. The Emperor is my favourite non-IX character; he is one of the best villains in fiction, let alone FF. 19:43, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Holy Enormous Votes --BiggsandWedge 21:15, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  18. The Emp. has like no characterization in FFII but as far as villainous feats go, he's hard to top. He's on the verge of total domination all through the game from the get-go and when he bites the big one he comes back better than ever, after taking over other planes of existence. Also gotta love the crazy, abstract and majestic Amano art. His faces may be weird but the art itself is always interesting. AnonyMan 22:03, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  19. I hate the Emperor with a burning passion, however even I know that he's a BAMF and this Galenth can kiss his ass because it's sooo obvious that the Emperor is going to win. --Marael 23:36, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  20. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 03:18, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
  21. I adore Mateus as a villain. He is far too underrated in the fandom, much like FFII.--ClixPsi 04:02, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
  22. Ujyl 11:13, July 7, 2011 (UTC) Galenth can't even conquer Cocoon. Mateus ruled both Heaven and Hell.
  23. He dis conquer both Hell and the realm of Fallen angels( Dis he conquer all of Heaven). I am suprised he did'nt use that in a speech. "And by the way, I defeated the Devil!" Thumbs up for a Full-Four Heroes type remake of FFII.-I'm the King of Wonderland, Sultan of Oz, and The Mooglelord, Mwahahahahahaha! 18:09, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Emperor is still a pushover. SidVI 13:30, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
  25. This guy rocks!!! Chaos got the last laugh!!! Jude the Dude 14:32, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
  26. Emperor Matteus kicks ass Pzykosiz 03:00, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
  27. Sunano 07:02, July 9, 2011 (UTC) No Freakin' way I'm voting for a guy that got beaten by Vanille! >:U
  28. My vote goes to the Emperor of Hell Maykite 07:42, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
  29. Read the votes above, I've got nothing more to say. My vote goes to Emperor Mateus of Palamecia. - Metusylc0304 12:41, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
  30. He went to hell... overthrew the Devil and became the new devil. Nothing can top that as a villain. I mean. (To quote the Nostalgia Critic from his top Disney Villain countdown: HE'S THE DEVIL! Every villain in existence looks up to him wishing they were as evil as him. How much better of a villain can you get?) Moogleknight24 16:36, July 9, 2011 (UTC)Moogleknight24
  31. Ujyl 09:31, July 12, 2011 (UTC) Innosense 01:12, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
  32. ---- Omega Mk.XII 08:46, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
  33. I love a good classic, and Mateus is your classic, egotistic, power-hungry tyrant.Mynameissora 13:00, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
  34. He is a cooler guy President Rufus Shinra 15:00, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
  35. He is by far my favourite villain having seeing all of them together in Dissidia. He is also by a lot, the brains behind the whole Chaos team, a true schemer, very intelligent, and enjoyable to play as well (God blesses Square for making him better in 012). Also his japanese voice actor is one of my favourites and suitable for the villain role such as this one. :P --BGMaxie 04:16, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
  36. Emperor is better... nuff said.--Mrmike336 14:35, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
  37. Emperor is so much sexier than Dysley. Plus, he has a snake on his head. A SNAKE ON HIS HEAD. I guess he also did that whole "conquering both heaven and hell" thing. DRevan64 6:56, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
  38. Both of these characters are insufferably boring. Just evil to be evil, its stupid. Galenth especially is stupid, because his evil requires that he dies. But I'll vote Emperor because he at least didn't kill a far more interesting villain. --BlueHighwind 18:52, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
  39. They both suck Yuffie2211
  40. Just by owning a title like this, "The Emperor" for sure wins! 10:34, July 20, 2011
  41. The Emperor conquered hell, which is pretty awesome. TheKingOfHearts 12:37, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
  42. The Emperor is smart, and conquered The two religious afterworlds. Plus he has cool battle music. IkariCojehn 8:57, July 26, 2011 (EST)
  43. Well, I'm biased toward the Emperor because he's the main villian and I prefer FF2 over FF13. SORRY! Catuse167 22:28, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
  44. Who conquers the hell and Heaven in the same History? Only the Emperor Mateus
  45. go emperor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  46. Uboar! Onionknight23
  47. He´s good looking, younger and worse than Dysley... Votes for Emperor....
  48. He's in Dissidia. Nuf Said. Coolawits 13:35, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
  49. Evil Emperor is better than Evil Pope. Aracnapack   (Talk/ Contributions) 16:57, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. Ok. I like FFXIII and I enjoy Galenth Dysley but he's up against the Emperor. The ruler of Palamecia. The guy who almost single-handedly crushed the Fynn resistance if it weren't for Firion and his buddies. And then, what happens when Firion kills him? He comes back from fucking Hell. One of the coolest FF antagonists of all time (topped only by Kefka and Kuja).
  2. Meh, the whole "mocking religious officials" thing got old after FFX. # 16:41, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  3. The Emperor is simply amazing, in his character, design, and battle style. I never got to play XIII, but just looking at the old guy already annoys me. The Emperor FTW.
  4. One of my favourite FF villains..right behind Sephiroth and Kuja..-- 09:50, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Superpope is a terrible character, his whole plot is to destroy the world, including him, so the maker will come along again, remake and then leave again, completely pointless, im not a huge emperor fan although he is a good character, but i hated XIII and this guy is one of the main reasons. Jihl Nabaat seemed awesome in the trailers, they should have used her voice and design as a more serious antagonist, not superpope, since he is a pope Hope is the only character to have any real reason to fear him....-- 09:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
  6. 00:24, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
  7. The other guy is called the "Superpope". "Super" says how great he thinks he is, and "pope" reminds of some old guy in real life. I automatically dislike that sad excuse for an antagonist.
  8. Emperor, for sure. Everythinf in FFXIII sucks, the antagonist included, and Emperor was, like, the first FF villain with true personality. Also, in Dissidia, he really takes the spotlight, so my vote goes to him.
  9. Emperor, because he actually succeeded in his plans. Plus, he's like the David Bowie of Dissidia.
  10. He overthrew Satan and conquered HELL ITSELF. That deserves a vote. Also, go old-school Final Fantasy games!-- 19:25, July 18, 2011 (UTC)
  11. His pages are longer than the other one-- 3:33, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Run Amok!
  13. 11:08, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Votes for Galenth Dysley[edit source]

  1. Koharu Nami 00:53, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  2. DuhAlVan 02:00, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  3. I always thought Dysley was inspired by Machi. SquallRocks 06:28, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Yeah, Duh. Clarent  (talk/ contribs) 06:37, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  5. This man created a web of lies so magnificient, only he himself still knew what was the truth. This feat is beyond impressive, and deserves all my respect. MirrorshardSceada 08:26, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  6. An Empire ruled by a Monster in Disguise without even realising. That takes skill. My vote goes to the Superpope.Balthierfan 12:22, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  7. This villain runs the show. He probably planned for this battle to happen because it secretly furthers his own designs.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2.png 16:15, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  8. How the hell could Dysley be losing? He is pretty bad ass and I really like his poetic-style speech. He f*ckin' planned pretty much everything that happened in FFXIII --RazielZero 22:23, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
  9. The scene when Dysley first transforms into Bartandelus is immense. You just have to see the look on the party's faces to know that. It's great how he shows up to antagonise the heroes in the most odd of ways (posing as Serah) and deserves a vote. --Lagunazan 01:53, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
  10. I don`t like any of them but FFXIII is better than FFII VentusFreakFFTA2-MontblancSprite.png
  11.  Kamikaze Pardee Dissicon ff5 Gil1.png 13:27, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Yay battle theme! --Kotoryuu 06:12, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
  13. DFF Cosmos Piece.png The Final Fantasy DFF Chaos Piece.png 20:02, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
  14. SUPERPOPE! RenoZellRikku 00:27, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Gonna cheer for the inevitable loser. But really, this guy's tactical mind and ability to predict people's actions is better than Lelouch's. He also partially got what he wanted in the end. Makoenergy99 22:38, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Goo Rayder 10:38, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
  17. The Emperor has gotten WAAAAYY too popular because of Dissidia. I do love him and I have actually played Final Fantasy II, unlike these newcomers. And Dysley actually nurtured your party throughout the game albeit only for a reason. Also, I didn't get to vote for him before because he was against Seymour. So Dysley, here you go. --Gunji 11:49, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
  18. It took every ounce of restraint not to vote for the Emperor but i can't not support a villain who has the nickname of "Robo-Pope"- HereticDante 16 july
  19. Go SuperPope! One of the best villains from recent Final Fantasy. I only know the Emperor from the Dissidia games so far. I haven't played my copy of II yet. MystRay 17:01, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Super Pope. For the win. Super Pope. Super Pope. Not crazy Emperor freaky Cross-Dressing freaky face. Just, Super pope. User:XxGuado_SeymourxX 11:26, July 20, 2011 (UTC 10+)
  21. While I tended to like playing II more than XIII (though neither are my favorites), I must say that in terms of villainy, Dysley is far greater. The man has the tactical prowess of ages. His lies and control over any situation at a given time is enviable of any leader quite frankly. In terms of Mr. Machiavelli's book (great read, I recommend to any megalomaniac), Dysley pulls off the nicer side of a ruler like no other, while also maintaining his his crueler side through pure manipulation. The Emperor simply could not do this. He held all the charisma of a wet fish in comparison as all he used was raw power to take control. Furthermore he used fear, something that will only result in revolt, as we clearly saw Leon attempt to take power immediately afterward. With Dysley this is not the case; his subjects love him as their beloved Super Papa. They wouldn't die for him out of fear, but out of devotion. And what does he plan to do with said devotion? Use it to cause their eventual destruction. It takes far more gaul to treat those below you with love, protection, and what passes as kindness, only to throw it all away the minute they least expect it. Dysley is a man that will call a child over to help it, set it up with a grand future, and help it along, and then stab it in the back (literally) with a false hug somewhere down the line. To gain such standing in any society and not be seen at all for what a wolf in sheep's clothing he is. What's more, he's managed to get away with it for well over 500 years. He's likely taken the guise of many people throughout his long life, growing to become loved for protecting his people time and time again. This is true, effective villainy AND Machiavellian principles of how one may gain power and hold it. Such a man should not be ignored, better yet kept an eye on... -User:Durmer Darc 22:33, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
  22. I haven't played many of the FF Games, but I know a lot about them. And I think that Dysley is the best villain in the series. Everything I could say has already been said by those above me, and much more. A.J. two (Smashboards) 03:07, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
  23. I liked Super Pope. He's got nice manicure. --Miyuron 19:51, July 30, 2011 (UTC)
  24. 04:34, July 31, 2011 (UTC) Superpope. The Emporer is prideful, even if he's cunning. He is also arrogant. Superpope, however, had the undying adoration of the very people he wished to sacrifice. There little dissent, save for a few L'Cie. It's likely that if there was a war, Dysley would have another Fal'Cie replace him for a while, gain the trust of the Emperor, then lead him to his ruination. Then he takes the reigns of Cocoon back.
  25. Rictisempra 16:58, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. Dysley probably already planned for this fight years ago, he probably is using to stage another fight. Hes just crafty like that.
  2. Just because I think the Emperor will demolish him, I swear myself to the superpope. Plus he has a rocking battle theme! 08:24, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Transformers, Primarchs in disguise! # 09:59, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
  4. four reasons,

1. He is awesome 2. he has an epic battle theme 3. He deceived everyone! he so good at that sort of thing he probably is controlling the DNC right now. 4. The emporer is a direct takeoff from Star Wars, and that's just lazy!

  1. Quick fact at the beginning of the game dysley already controls cocoon whereas emperor mateus is still on his quest to control it
  2. I have played all the final fantasy games and i think all of them are fantastic, so i can't give my vote to any of them only becouse i prefer one of the games or any of the character. So i'm going to be realistic. First of all it must be mentioned that Cocoon is much more advanced technologycaly than Palamecia and the Emperors soldiers have nothing to do against PSICOM. And about a fight between them it's the same. The Emperor can be evolved into a kind of demon or something like that, but on the battles of the main characters of each game and them, Lightning and her group have more difficulties to defeat Dysley than Firion and his group had to defeat the Emperor, and i must not say that Lightning is much powerful than any other main character of the series becouse she and the members of her group can spell 6 magics or habilities on the same move and others only 2 or 3 by using the doubble or tripple habilities. What i want to say is that any other Final Fantasy Hero like Cloud, Squall, Tidus or even Firion could not defeat him. Finally i want to apologize if my english isn't so good becouse i'm spanish and i'm learning english yet.
  1. Vote for this guy, I just love to hate him.
  1. He created a pseudo-moon, nurtured it for 500 years, and got the loyalty of everyone on it just to destroy the whole thing in the end. It's hard to top that.
  1. Dysley FTW.
  1. A man who can lie like that deserves admiration, GO SUPERPOPE! 16:45, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery[edit source]

I think FFVII would not be seen as nearly as impressive a game(aside from a tech standpoint) in the gaming community if the other all of the older FFII and the other older FFs had been released outside of Japan before it. II was like the 1st really dark game of the series and killed off way more playable characters(and all of the temp characters were FAR cooler than the permanent ones). Not taking a jab at VII(this time), I'm just saying.AnonyMan 22:27, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

As much as I agree with the person above me there's really no point in going over the whatifs and such. It is what it is, and even if the older games had been released before FFVII what does any of that have to do with this? --Marael 23:39, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I disagree with the comments above claiming that always slagging off VII just beacuase its success, in muy Opinion VI was not that great and Kefka (he was alright as he had some humourous lines,and personality)is WAY overrated. yes he's a little amuzing but seriously....Kuja had way more stylish flare and Sephiroth was just Kickass. i know people are going to say some BS like Kefka was the God of magic and conquered the world, but hey so did Ultimecia and there is no end of abuse she gets from suppossed fans who are more obsessed with unfairly critizing later games when the gameplay is usually just as good if not better than previous games (XIII not so much IMO lol, the characters still has tere charm though and the 12 days before the purge thing was good to watch).i'm not saying the games pre VII aren't good it's just annoying the way supposed fans are clearly biased with there hatered (they still seem to play the new games though...

Final Fantasy VII became popular because of its improved graphics and its improved marketing - and it was a good game, I won't deny it. However, Sephiroth, Kuja, Ultimecia, and - adding some relevance to the fight here - Emperor Mateus all started off with major power. So did many others. The one villain who didn't start with great power was Kefka; he started out as a manipulative lackey, and grew. He acquired ultimate power right out from under Gestahl's nose (another emperor), then killed him (and a general). What makes him different from Ultimecia in the aspect of taking over the world is that he does it all, right in front of your face; Ultimecia's Time Compression (and home time, where she has conquered everything) is thwarted through a time loop she herself starts (while the conquest is done off-screen; it really loses its edge). I agree; Final Fantasy II and Final Fantasy VIII get a lot of flak for and because of their systems, and that makes their villains unpopular. The bottom line is that they are all unique; they all contribute their own brand of evil. The Emperor provides a man hellbent on controlling everything he can, from the planet to the afterlife - he's intelligent and cruel. He's also the actual big-bad of the game, whereas Galenth Dylensy... well, to my knowledge, he isn't. I know the Emperor better; thus, I voted for him.

What's with the really long votes? SquallRocks 14:56, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I guess the Emperor's just that manipulating. He's forcing us to talk longer than we normally would. Or those are the former Anon voters, and as we know, they love to talk. King of Noobs 20:19, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Props for the Machiavelli reference. RenoZellRikku 00:28, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, landlside.Clarent  (talk/ contribs) 04:05, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

com on u gaiz if not 4 disedia, hwo menknee of u wuld kno teh emperawr/? UM, not many. I'd say total of three people. Really that's about all the credit I've seen go to Mateus is because of that damn game. As stated above I've known Mateus before Dysley and yes, he is better, but I tend to stray away from the cesspool of flies that swarm around the recently popular characters. They're like new hit singles that are from a band which has been around for the past 20 years. Understand? Also to those who say 'FFXIII sux' You can cry on my shoulder and admit it was too hard for you. --Gunji 10:02, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure you're serious, friend. You do know Final Fantasy II has been re released and on various consoles, right? Did you read only 1 comment at random? like Most of the comments of Mateus' votes don't even mention Dissidia(or mention it in addition to other stuff), especially considering he's far less badass than his original version. And don't hate Dissidia for having lesser known characters and games gain more notoriety. I do hope Bartz get his much needed and deserved mass popularity...or people stop hating Vaan for no reason.AnonyMan 15:45, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
Um, yeah. That's all the more reason people should know him more than just for what he's worth in Dissidia. Okay, okay, he looks like David Bowie and that makes him even cooler, right? Don't get me wrong I love Bowie. I don't hate Vaan and Bartz is .. All right. My complaint is that I can't stand this type of notoriety, I've seen it throughout every match and for the assumption that I only skimmed one comment, I read most of what I could stomach. --Gunji 03:45, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

The Emperor is the first largely developed antagonist. Garland was simple, a guy who made a time loop to live eternally. The Emperor is calculating, ruthless and a "Trap Master", for the whole of FF2 you get to see one or two disasters his actions have brought, always bringing a mess for you to solve. You get Mythril, The Emperor brings the Dreadnought, you destroy the Dreadnought, he brings on a Lamia Queen and poisons the Wyverns. You save Fynn, he lets loose a Cyclone, you defeat him, he comes back from Hell. The Emperor is the first of the line of later on "Emperors" or evil leaders of later games from which ironically Dysley is like an "offspring" of such process? And even if in Dissidia he's just a soldier, he makes himself known. Dysley's role as a Fal'Cie was surprising, but I'd have developed it further, besides his goal was to destroy the world......that objective has been so discarded and simple since quite long (yes Kuja wanted it, but merely after he knew he was mortal) that bringing it back so suddenly when you're developing more complex stories can make this guy look dumb.

So it's clear who won this, how bout we move on to the next one.--Chakn 18:30, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah man, Mateus is winning by a landslide. Drawing this out any further will just be embarrassing. --Marael 16:26, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Week 174: Tifa Lockheart v. Setzer Gabbiani[edit source]

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Pull the lever, watch the reels and see which of these gamblers gets lucky! A barrage of Chocobos, a barrage of bombs, or a barrage of good old-fashioned fists and feet. But which of these slot-playing fan-favs truly has Lady Luck's ear? WINNER!
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Votes for Tifa[edit source]

  1. Koharu Nami 04:00, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Tifa Lockhart is great in DDFF and in Advent Children so my vote goes to her! --TerraBranford145322 09:09, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Why are peope focusing on what Tifa has become? In the original she was still an excellent character, and the fact she has become overrated should not remove from that. She's still my favourite. Hamfruitcake 09 14:06, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Don`t remeber much about Setzer.VentusFreakFFTA2-MontblancSprite.png 14:41, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  5. My life is a chip in your—SHUT UP! Tifa all the way!!! - DFF Cosmos Piece.png The Final Fantasy DFF Chaos Piece.png 00:26, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  6. I'm not a fan of either character, but i do like VII more than VI. TheWOL 14:00, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  7. People complain about Tifa becoming nothing more than an object for male pleasure. Yet when other characters like Prishe, Terra, or Lightning. get some rather revealing outfits, it's OOGAAGAAGAA all the way... If you ask me, I think some of us are being a bit hypocritical. Razordash09:24, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  8. --BiggsandWedge 10:03, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Tifa breaks the stereotype of the damsel in distress by being able to take care of herself, and while I love Setzer, his speech patterns annoy me just a little. Oh, and of course, there's the matter of Tifa's boobs, but then she just becomes Cloud's arm candy. Tia-Lewise 11:52, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  10. I grew up with Final Fantasy VII and Tifa was always my favourite character. I never got to play FFVI so my vote goes to Tifa. --Sencilia 13:26, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Really hard to decide! LTFabrettiChocobo Dragoon.png 19:38, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  12.  Kamikaze Pardee Dissicon ff5 Gil1.png 20:42, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Damn it, I forgot to vote in Cecil vs Kain (way too hard to decide). Both of these characters have their good and bad aspects, and while I much prefer 6 to 7 in general, I'm going to have to go with Tifa, if only in protest for the use of that awful Kingdom Hearts 2 version of Setzer -.- capefeather 23:45, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Have yet to play FFVI Vercery 23:59, June 16,2011 (UTC)
  15. I always add her for my FFVII team. --ClixPsi 02:32, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Haven't played vi yet.Metroidrules231 08:00, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Because I'm a man. LC 10:21, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Because Setzer disappointed me in KHII, and Tifa has to put up with Cloud's nonsense in the same game. SidVI Dissicon ff7 Tifa2.png 13:33, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
  19. MMLN メーマウリアン 00:52, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
  20. --BlueHighwind 03:19, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
  21. When fighting the three Turks I had already beaten Reno and Rude with Tifa's Limit Break's lesser punches and kicks, when Tifa got Final Heaven against Elena. You can't end a boss fight much more cooler way... Vohaul86 08:23, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
  22. Close one but I like Tifa that little bit more. John_Harper 17:19, June 18, 2011 (GMT)
  23. Here's to many great hours of Tifa/Scarlet domshipping. Nice strategy of using the non-hideous non-Amano art to try and get someone to vote for Mr. Pockfaced Git, shows how much faith you have in the guy. --AuronKaizer! 23:22, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Tifa, unlike Setzer wasn't flamboyant and also, Tifa has the sexy skills, that Setzer did not. Also, her reels always come out with better outcomes for me. Just saying. XxGuado_SeymourxX 02:55, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
  25. [insert joke about Tifa's slots here] - +DeadlySlashSword+ 03:11, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
  26. For more OUTSTANDING appearances in a thousand of Square midia and for her fight Advent Children. (There's no way Setzer gonna defeat Tifa... She's a girl!) --Master Lamington 05:41, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
  27. Tifa rocks Biziorek 09:40, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
  28. Dunno who the other guy is and Tifa was in 012 XD (LiancoZ 10:46, June 20, 2011 (UTC))
  29. Her fight scene with Loz in AC is plain epic. SquallRocks 14:37, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
  30. TIFA!!!--Hotdragon 295 19:11, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
  31. No contest. RenoZellRikku 00:21, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
  32. Kaintheflaminglancer 16:16, June 22, 2011 (UTC) Who doesn't love Tifa?
  33. She is the only VII character who mangages to be awesome and still be the same person in every installment of the CompilationAlVan 20:21, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
  34. Not a big fan of either, but I still like Tifa more. --RazielZero 23:20, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
  35. Tifa's just badass like that. --Marael 18:59, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
  36. Same reason as 2.--ZexionFan321 06:26, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
  37. GlassAngel13 20:56, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
  38. Haven't played ffvi yet, so I don't really know what Setzer is like, but i liked Tifa in ffvii so that's who i'm going withTheKingOfHearts 21:37, June 26, 2011 (UTC)
  39. I love Tifa,Go Tifa go
  40. Tifa are allways on my party untill rocket town brcause of the damage she causes with her limit breake. I prefere Cid due to that his limit hits all/is easier to target at specifics. Setzer's not my type of char, and I'm not owerly impressed with his airship interface The Rood Inverse 12:11, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
  41. Tifa sucker punched Scarlet, so my vote goes to her. Setzer is also part of that whole "including unecessary characters to the party" thing Final Fantasy VI had going. Discordius Erisianus 14:52, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
  42. Her fight scene with Loz in Advent Children was very well done, and she bitch slapped the shit out of Scarlet. Not to mention Kingdom Hearts II successfully ruined my perception of Setzer... --XOneWingedAngelx 21:31, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
  43. She's hot, has high damage dealing potential, a mind gamer's dream character in Dissidia, and has a nice theme song. Makoenergy99 20:52, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
  44. No Contest i cant get a boner from the guy i don't even know.User:l'cieBeast6:28, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
  45. tifa definitely tifa win for sure !!!!!!
  46. tifa is one bad ass chick my vote for tifa!!!!user:kirbyy9 11:33, July 5, 2011 (utc)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. I only know Tifa
  2. I liked Setzer's backstory with Daryl, but I wished he had gotten more development. He was interesting. Tifa will always be one of my favorites, behind Fang and Yuna. I have to go with her.
  3. I only know Tifa as well, but using the argument of her becoming a fan-service model, and ignoring what she was before, Setzer was reduced to nothing in KH2. Aside from that, Tifa was extremely kick-ass (figuratively and literally) in her game, and I appreciate her as a female character, where she had depth, was tough, and wasn't obnoxious as the others could be. 16:04, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  4. 11:48, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Tifa it's very cool, in AC she is too strong and cool
  6. I like Setzer, and probably prefer VI but I found him disappointing, he was just there really, you acquire him by interupting a kidnapping event and steal his ship and then trick him, and he just goes along with it enthusiastically. He does make up for this, but damn KH2 killed him. Tifa all the way, shes a great character, her popularity is merited
  7. 20:58, June 17, 2011 (UTC)Tifa kicks ass!
  8. 21:02, June 18, 2011 (UTC)Even as a Boxy low polygon model Tifa was still hot. I never saw a good picture of ANY of the girls from 6 apart from their amano artwork.And Tifa kept Her personality in KH2.
  9. I doubt Setzer could defeat Tifa in a one-on-one. He's a great character and fun to use but he just isn't all that reliable.
  10. Great punch.
  11. Tifa's hair is in a dolphin tail... and... dolphins rock. # 00:08, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Setzer really doesn't poke my interest. Never used him in my party unless necessary, along with dumass Locke. Tifa, on the other hand, always made my party with Cloud and Vincent/Red XIII. And NOT because of her aesthetics, it's just because I like her.
  13. Setzer is an alright guy but this can't even be considered a contest. Tifa is a strong willed martial artist whose fame in FF series has her gain more popularity than Setzer could ever amass. While I disagree with this perpective despite being a male her hotness has a great deal to do with her popularity. And in regards to the subtle FF6 vs FF7 that underlays this conflict, technically it should be a draw but it isn't (FF7)! Tifa is also kinda hilarious. (FF7 stair climbing scene, Epic Funny my fair lady) Tifa got into Duodecim, was considered for the original Kingdom Hearts BEFORE Setzer and in any top 10 countdown concerning FF characters, Tifa somehow makes the top 5(She even managed to beat out Cloud and Sephiroth in one countdown in IGN I think...). Plus there are two obvious reasons that Tifa will win this. Personality and Punching.
  14. 07:37, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Never reached Setzer in FFVI , but played/watched everything that had Tifa in it , so she gets my vote. June 29,2011
  16. What's with people keep saying Tifa's reputation getting ruined? It's not like it is favored by the masses and is her real personality. What can you do? She just looks that way. Its pretty foolish to judge someone based on the bad rumors that obviously does only apply for the pervs. This battle, my vote goes to Tifa.
  17. Tifa wins for me. But if it was against Lightning I would choose lightning
  18. Both are highly nostalgic, and Setzer is a great and useful character, but something about Tifa makes me want to cheer her on. She's persistent and strong-willed without being pushy, but she isn't afraid to show vlnerability.

Votes for Setzer[edit source]

  1. Hehehe :/  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1.png 07:33, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Setzer has had his fair share of good moments in VI and is one of the most important characters in the World of Ruin. Tifa however has been reduced to naught but fanservice in the recent years, and that is just sad. MirrorshardSceada 07:37, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  3. MSS puts it nicely. * 08:00, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Normally, I'd vote for Tifa, as I've actually managed to perfect her "slots" a few times, but I think I'm gonna go with Setzer. I just loved him in VI, he owns an airship, and anyone that can kill something with cards or darts gets kudos points in my book. King of Noobs 13:09, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  5. I don't hate Tifa but she has way too much overrated fanservice and cosplay (Which always annoys me) Not to mention Setzer has the only airship in the world, that says something about how much power he has over all the "Normal citizens and snooty rich guys in Jidoor" Moogleknight24 13:35, June 15, 2011 (UTC)Moogleknight24
  6. Rictisempra 15:23, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  7. This is slot, the other one is a Sl*tSΓΣamyGoreng 10:06, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Because he was my main fighting force in The World of Ruin. I love Tifa don't get me wrong, and my Tifa in Duodecim is actually my best fighter. But I feel Seltzer is a very underrated character. Get the fixed dice, regular dice, the offering, and the genji glove, he's a recipe for total annihilation. Plus he wears a purple trench coat and that endears him to meBahamut knows best 11:19, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Well, this fight is a bit unbalanced... Yeah, Tifa has skills with gambling, but she is a fighter after all... Setzer is a born gambler. He uses dices, slots and cards to fight. In duodecim, Tifa is one of my favourite characters, I love her, and her look, but this fight is the gamblers fight. If it was a brawlers fight, I'm sure my vote would fly to Tifa, but this time, Setzer is the ace. He throws dices like noone does! (AND HE HAS AN AIRSHIP WHAT FUNCTIONS AS A CASINO?!?!?!Tifa, just take a nap now!)--Lonely Wild Rose.jpg Rose 12:04, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  10. Setzer all the way Balthierfan 16:38, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  11. His Slots were actually unique. In addition to being a far, far, far cooler and more interesting character. He's got style, something Tifa doesn't, and the only airship in VI's world...then the OTHER only airship later. A pimp, plain and simple. Tifa's not even a good "tough girl" RPG character, much better examples who came before her. AnonyMan 21:00, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Setzer gets my vote because he has a unique way of fighting, i.e with darts/cards in addition to his slots. Also, he has an interesting backstory and owns the world's only airship. He was an original idea and a significant character. I think Tifa's alright, but Setzer takes the cake in this fight. --Time Master --Time Master 21:21, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Although I don't really like either of them, I like him more than Tifa. MystRay
  14. I'm going with setzer, tifa already gets lots of attention, plus setzer's funnier Pzykosiz 08:09, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Ante up! --Silver Mage 16:02, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Oh how can i forget Setzer and abandon him like this? One of my favourite characters in FFVI. I also played FFVII but Tifa isn't awesome as Setzer ^^ Khorne_IV
  17. If you're talking about gamblers, Setzer is the top pick. He probably knows Lady Luck's phone number, I mean the guy makes his life about gambling. Maykite 09:08, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
  18. No contest for me. It's Setzer. He is The Wandering Gambler - Tifa isn't a gambler, she is a monk. If we're going on slots, Setzer wins with 7 Flush; if we're going on weapons, Setzer wins with Fixed Dice or Doom Darts or Final Trump. Setzer is a unique character with a few mysteries and his world's only airship. Tifa has... well, we know what she has. And it doesn't work for me. Setzer is the winner! Dogurasu 06:01, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
  19. The Original FF Gambler :) AtmaCrisis 09:23, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
  20. First I wondered what reason these two could be put up against each other. Setzer easily wins in my opinion. - Metusylc0304 14:37, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Setzer is obviously the better slot user, besides looks like Setzer will need votes...FFVIfan 20:53, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
  22. I'm going to skip being cliche by commenting on his fighting prowess or what he chooses as a weapon, etc. Setzer was just an awesome guy to me, and his sprite when he prepared for battle was priceless. --Gunji 20:13, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
  23. FFVI still has a special place in my heart.Mynameissora 08:25, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
  24. If this battle came down to magic, Setzer wins hands down. He can learn and retain every spell in the game, where as Tifa is limited to the spells attached to the materia she's equipped with. Plus, Setzer can use his slots at any time. Tifa can only rely on hers during a limit break.Servonut 15:47, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
  25. Setzer is to awsome for words.--Dancing Maddness 13:01, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
  26. He fights with cards, dice, and darts (though he's at his most stylish when he has the cards and dice). He's probably one of the coolest looking characters out there. How can I not vote for him?--InsanityBringer 16:50, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
  27. DRevan64 Tifa is going to win by virtue of tits, so I'm going to vote for Setzer by virtue of sexilicious silver hair. Also, I love a gambling man. 2:49, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. Tifa has neither Dice nor Darts as weapons, so... my vote goes to Setzer.
  2. 21:22, June 17, 2011 (UTC)I don't really understand the nature of this competition; slots are the only qualification for being a gambler? I don't see Tifa "gambling" so much as "focusing" on her limit break...there's certainly none of the "casino" aspect. Cait Sith or Selphie should have gone up against Setzer. To me, Tifa is easily the better character, but that's not what we're deciding here, is it?
  3. The best romantic (in the true sense of word) character ever. He feint coolness and such, but he's such a sad and nostalgic guy inside, not really belonging to the times he lives in. Plus, his music theme (with a lot of variations) is the main ending theme. Nothing else to add really.
  4. Setzer has a damn casino in his airship and he makes quotes about life. Also, Setzer has Fixed Dice. Tifa is just all fanboys fapping to her.
  5. I choose Tifa at the first sight. But don't you forget this quote: 'Whenever you think you're right, you're wrong'. So my vote goes for Setzer.
  6. Tifa? A Gambler? Don't make me laugh. Setzer invented the Gambler job class, and Tifa can do Slot Machines? As a Limit Break? Setzer can do them anytime like a man. -- 19:34, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery[edit source]

I Can't Decide! They're both to epic for words.

I can't choose. Tifa suplexes and beats up everything that she meets up against and is just awesome, and Setzer calls Chocobos, brings down the Airship with H-Bomb, and he's also awesome!

FF needs more Real Slots-using characters. There hasn't been any since Cait Sith. Also Selphie would have been a more fitting choice to go up against Setzer. AnonyMan 21:09, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

There was at least one more after Cait Sith that I know of. And that is Wakka, who used the slots.

Razordash 09:36, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

  1. 21:27, June 17, 2011 (UTC) Not a big fan of this match-up; Tifa's slots are not so much a question of luck, but patience; they move slowly enough for you to guarantee a hit if you are willing to take the time to do it right. It's more like she is focusing her strength rather than relying on luck. Cait Sith and Selphie actually rely on luck in order to get a result from their slots, and would have been a much more appropriate choice for this match-up.

Selphie's Slots weren't really so much down to luck though, it was more about patience as you could just keep redoing them until you got some awesome magic, or if you were really patient, come up with rapture.-->

There is a cheat that can garantee getting the results you want with Selphies limit break (if you have a Playstation 1)

Zack got the DMW-slots in Crisis core. Never been a fan of the random limit breaks... The Rood Inverse 11:44, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

I have to agree with the person above me. It ticks me off that I can't choose when to use the strongest summons in a boss battle but they keep popping up in a normal enemy encounter, like seriously? WTF?! At least with Tifa you get to choose. --Marael 02:11, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Week 173: Kain Highwind v. Cecil Harvey[edit source]

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Kain Highwind
40 1/2 to 32 1/2
I don't think these two need any introduction. They are titans of their jobs. WINNER!
Kain Highwind
40 1/2 to 32 1/2

Votes for the Dragoon[edit source]

  1. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 03:58, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Rough choice, but Kain is awesome in TAY. Jimcloud 04:08, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  3. --Wedge Cocoon sig.gif (of Biggs&Wedge)04:27, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  4. --ClixPsi 04:54, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  5. In the original FFIV game both were equally cool, but in The After Years Kain Kicked way more ass than Cecil who was under mind control most of the game. GO HOLY DRAGOON!!! President Rufus Shinra 19:58, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
  6. While I disliked Kain in IV and liked Cecil, in Duodecim it is exactly the other way around: Cecil gets on my nerve, while Kain redeemed himself. As such, this vote goes to the Duodecim Kain. MirrorshardSceada 06:23, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  7. He can freaking JUMP AND SPEAR YOUR HEAD!!! What can cecil do, Defend?SΓΣamyGorengGoreng 12:04, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  8. This is a tough one but I'm playing Darksiders and Liam O'Brien and Mark Hamill are the greatest voice over duo for any video game, period.  Kamikaze Pardee Dissicon ff5 Gil1.png 14:21, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  9. As much as I like Cecil in IV, Kain takes the cake here. And in Duodecim. And the AFter Years.--Uzuki18 14:34, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  10. As characters, it's definitely Kain. Though it was really hard because both of them has an awesome voice actor. Kain - Gaara (Naruto) and Lloyd (Code Geass). Cecil - Sasuke (Naruto) Suzaku (Code Geass). --RazielZero 15:09, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Well, I don't like Cecil... and Kain is badass. LTFabrettiChocobo Dragoon.png 16:42, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  12. The original and ultimate Dragoon. Balthierfan 17:04, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Ooh! Tough one this week, but my vote goes to the dragoon, better than cecil in 012 and white magic to boot. Primal Link 19:16, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Kain is better than Cecil in IV, TAY, and 012. MystRay 19:19, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Kain would probably win. Ason Brozen 9:33, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Lance of the covenant! LC 11:55, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Because Kain has so much depth and makes for a great hero/antihero. Nokareon 23:59, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Kains a dragoon thats all there is to it. User:l'cieBeast 21:15, May 27 2011 (UTC)
  19. Kain is way better than Cecil. Not only are Kain's abilities better (Dragoon vs. Paladin), but I felt more sympathy towards Kain. His own jealousy towards Cecil leads to many of the events, and nobody seems to forgive him, even when he repents. Also, he looks better than Cecil. User:violagirl33
  20. Kain kicks ass. Also, I like playing as him in 012 more than Cecil. XxRikku-chanxX 22:22, May 28, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Both characters hold about the same amount in my heart, however, when it comes to choosing between them, I do have to side with Kain on this one, just seeing as the Dragoon class for me, was always the better skilled class and much more versatile in the games, especially in IV. So, Kain has it in this match. XxGuado_SeymourxX 22:47, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
  22. It's a tough choice, but I think Kain is a deeper character and less of a sissy. RenoZellRikku 04:34, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
  23. Rinoa Leonheart 05:01, May 30, 2011 (UTC) OH YEAH
  24. "You offer your life in exchange for their's?" "Of course not, I offer yours." User:DRevan64 07:57 (UTC)
  25. I just like Kain better. Ventusfreak 17:29 (UTC+1)
  26. Another example of why Square suck at choosing the right character to make the main one. Now, things would obviously have been a little different if it were Dark Knight Cecil we was talking about, but no such luck. Kain's awesomeness has been able to withstand copious misuse by way of crappy fangirls. And that's the key. --AuronKaizer! 00:21, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
  27. I hated the part in FFIV when Cecil got married to Rosa, never really liked cecil apart from his dark knight half. TheWOL 19:34, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
  28. THE Kain --Silver Mage 16:27, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
  29. KAIN!!!!!SephirothHighwind 22:12, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
  30. MY FAVORITE BADASS DRAGOON!!!! ★Crescent moon★ 11:27, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
  31. I couldn't decide, so I held 2 fights between them in Duodecim. Kain won both, so he gets my vote :D YamiNoBahamut 14:25, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
  32. Who don't love Kain???--Hotdragon 295 22:07, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
  33. Kain excels much better than stupid Cecil in duodecimLelouchlamperouge990 10:41, June 4, 2011 (UTC)lelouchlamperouge990
  34. GlassAngel13 17:13, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
  35. I use him in my main party in TAY, and he jumps... CheeseNinja 03:26, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
  36. Kain is a beast in battle, simple as that. And, in the Advance/Complete Collection, Kain's dark side easily captured Rosa and Cecil in Kain's lunar trial. You can choose to have Kain fight Cecil, and if you watch that scene it's obvious how powerful Kain's true spirit is. And, when Kain double jumps, you can do massive amounts of damage in a short time. Zexion4I4 00:51, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
  37.  Shadow Dissicon ff4 Kain1.png 03:44, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. 14:30, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  2. 21:22, May 26, 2011 (UTC)I vote Kain, he's hot and his voice is just awesome~ <3
  3. Kain has better white magic than Cecil and dragoons are pretty awesome. Plus I've always just loved Kain. <3 23:25, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Vote for a man with guts, "All those who challenge me will fall!" 23:41, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Kain is so cool! # 20:18, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  6. 22:12, May 27, 2011 (UTC) Dragoons are better than paladins any day, plus, when Cecil changed from a kick ass dark knight, to a piss weak Paladin, everyone who played that game for the first time (including me) was disappointed.
  7. I love him in Duodecim. 10:50, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
  8. ~~I like both of them, but in my point of view Kain has more depth in his character.-- 12:28, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
  9. I like both, but prefer Kain's design. I think he's pretty cool. 03:11, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Votes for the Paladin[edit source]

  1. I have never liked Kain NeoExdeath 04:14, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  2. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 04:31, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  3. - Vercery 04:41, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Clarent  (talk/ contribs) 05:46, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  5. MMLN メーマウリアン 07:44, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Mr. Harvey!!! SidVI 09:08, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  7. My vote goes to the Paladin--Koori-san 11:55, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Cecil's more interesting, is around more and has actually proven himself to be pretty awesome. Kain's not a bad character but is just an unremarkable Dragoon and literally nothing special. He's fairly cool, but he was never THAT cool. Ever.AnonyMan 12:07, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  9. I don't like the way Kain stands in the DS version.  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1.png 12:14, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  10. lolol Laguna. Also, MOON POWER. --Gunji 14:06, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  11. I don't get why people like him so much. He wasn't that amazing in IV, I mean, who gets manipulated more than 3 times by the same person? SquallRocks 15:32, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Grr... I can't decide on their epicness, so I'm gonna go with the one I like to play more on Duodecim. I'm not much of an Air Character player, outside of Kuja (that whole gliding thing, ya know.) King of Noobs 21:22, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  13. 23:09, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Cecil may be a boring character but he's not horribly overrated. --BlueHighwind 01:46, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Tough choice. But Cecil is cooler. Kain is just... a little too deep for me.  CloudyKrystal Dissicon ff7 Clo2.png 02:13, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Blue said it all. But Cecil is also not blonde. Discordius Erisianus 05:21, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Yeah tough choice, and the thing is pretty even too so... whatever. I like Kain too, but he just killed off everyone in Duodecim and made the storyline shorter. I like cecil because he can transform between 2 jobs and the combo skills are pretty epic. HighSeraph 08:07, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Kain's kinda annoying. Squall2.0 8:23 May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  19. Kain = TEH EPICNESS, but Cecil is played by Yuri Lowenthal. - DFF Cosmos Piece.png The Final Fantasy DFF Chaos Piece.png 22:47, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
  20. CardboardBoxMan 07:58, May 28, 2011 (UTC)
  21. He is a dad..... --XxNoctisxx 20:02, May 28, 2011 (UTC)xxNoctisxx
  22. Okay, despite my statement in the Peanut Gallery below, I'm going to cast my vote for the Paladin/Dark Knight Split Soul (for those who have seen him in Dissidia). If only because he's losing.Dogurasu 16:18, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
  23. I'm surprised I continued to main him in 012 - his play style really appeals to me. Plus he has a rockin' second alt. The main issue I have with him though is his rather, uhm, hammy performance. But why? WHHHHHHYYYYYY?! *sobs* BfD t/c 01:07, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
  24. I love both characters, FFIV is one of my favourite FF Games. But Cecil is the superior warrior here and we all know that, besides he is Kain's King! KaiserPaladin 07:50, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
  25. I killed Chaos with like two hits with this guy. Palidin Force>Jump. Other than that, they are both pretty cool I've only started IV so can't say much more.AlVan 21:37, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
  26. Cecil can fly! XD Mynameissora 13:17, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
  27. Kain is too much of an idiot to win. Seriously, pick a side and stick to it, Mr so-called Dragoon. Flicky1991 14:24, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
  28. I'm voting for Cecil on this one. Kain "betrayed" the party too many times for me to support him. Plus, his character didn't seem to have nearly as much depth as Cecil's. Finally, There are many Dragoons in the final fantasy series, but there is only ONE person who is both a Dark Knight and a Paladin. Kain can't top that. --Time Master 03:35, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
  29. Because as much as I dislike Cecil I dislike Kain infinitely more. Bahamut knows best 12:10, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
  30. Cecil could easily kick Kain's assPzykosiz 00:45, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. Cecil all the way! He's one of my favourite FF characters...that, and I never really liked Kain much..-- 11:48, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Tough choice, as they are both great characters, but I've always taken more kindly to Cecil than to Kain. Cecil's story was just more sympathetic and you saw him grow as a character. That's not to say Kain didn't either and that if he was the protaganist of IV I'd be saying the same thing about him that I'm now saying about Cecil, but I just feel that Cecil is the stronger character, and I don't mean in terms of strength. Cecil has misgivings, he has regrets, he has to do things that he doesn't want to do, but he takes all that pain and suffering and carries on anyway, while with Kain it enables him to be mind controlled. Yes, he eventually threw it off, but to have never fallen down that path even with all his suffering, Cecil just takes the cake for me. 19:22, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  3. 00:02, May 27, 2011 (UTC) As much as I would love to say Kain, Cecil's voice in the DS version was beautiful, and Kain fell behind on the list of awesome characters when Edge, Rydia, Edward, and Yang came into the picture. Love them both, but Cecil leads just by a hair.
  4. Hate Kain, love Cecil..Nuff said..-- 09:35, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
  5. I now have TWO fight suggestions that made it! (Huzzah!) Anyway, Cecil all the way. He isn't a total jerk the whole game. -- 19:32, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery[edit source]

1. Calling it now. It's gonna be a draw.

Possibly. These are two of the few characters around here who are really popular with very few ire around them. Even Vivi has haters(Haters gonna hate in this case). But I'm thinking Kain will edge out for the win. AnonyMan 12:00, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
  1. I can't vote on this one because I can't tell who is more badass - in the DS version, my Cecil fought Odin (taking no fewer than three Zantetsuken hits) practically solo and won; in the same game, Kain took out Zeromus with his last attack and at 1 HP.
That was deep, whoever it was that posted above me. --Gunji 14:08, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Just to clarify things just in case some people incorrectly state, Kain wasn't The First Dragoon, Ricard(or Richard) from FF2(the real FF2) was. AnonyMan 18:44, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps but Kain was the first 'Standard' dragoon or debatably the dragoon that others are based on - spears, jump, dragon helm, etc. Balthierfan 11:10, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
Not quite, Dragoons were in FF3 and that's when they finally got Jump to cement their style and motif. Kain may have made the class more popular but he didn't bring anything else to it. AnonyMan 12:06, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
And let's not forget that Final Fantasy IV was Final Fantasy II for us Americans, so he is OUR first Dragoon. King of Noobs 17:45, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
Actually FFII is the original FF in America, so still Ricard.
Er, no. I, IV and VI were the first three released in America. II wasn't released for quite a while. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 06:07, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
That's true. however, we have the internet and this is a Final Fantasy information site. Anyone can easily look up Dragoons and know Kain still wasn't the original. AnonyMan 21:24, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
When you grew up playing Final Fantasy, did you have much access to the Internet? Did this site even exist when the SNES was in its prime? The simple fact, no matter what information may be out there, nostalgia over-rules almost everything. That's why many will still call Kain the first Dragoon. King of Noobs 21:33, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Hahah I always laugh at the anonymous voters bc they have the LONGEST explanations. SquallRocks 20:57, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Fight 172: Seymour Guado v. Galenth Dysley[edit source]

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35 1/2 to 34 1/2
Persistent flamboyant priests waiting for a moment to turn into a horrible multi-stage beast of annoyance! WINNER!
35 1/2 to 34 1/2

Votes for Seymour[edit source]

  1. Gotta love the father murdering, mighty morphing, quote spewing, hair gravity defying Guado. Nirvana Phoenix
  2. He likes Yuna which is ftw even if it is disgusting. He also has better music. MystRay 23:06, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Nothing truly makes sense in FFXIII, Seymour on the other hand a chilling evil maniac. Good times! Hamfruitcake 09 23:31, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
  4. seymours crazy annoying and faggy but galenth just didn't play big enough a role to get my vote! at least seymour was always getting involved! Biziorek 01:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  5. He is the best villian ever!!! gotta love his battle theme. Rikku Trepe
  6. Dodongray23 02:13, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  7. He's not there instead of a more interesting villain. I mean, yeah, Seymour sucks and he should be replaced with somebody else, but at least there doesn't exist an obvious better villain in FFX. There's no Jill. --BlueHighwind 02:23, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Gonna pick him because I only know him. Kuzlalala 06:15, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Dysley is just weird to me.. I'll pick Seymour over him although Seymour is annoying in his own way (coming back alive 4 times, having to defeat him 4 times) Haiz.. but nevertheless his Overdrive was great! --TerraBranford145322 09:37, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  10. No brainer for me. Anima beats Fal'cie every time. StarNinja99 That chick that cried! 11:10, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  11. This was sort of tough for me but it boiled down to 3 things: better battle theme, almost marrying Yuna, and Anima.  Kamikaze Pardee Dissicon ff5 Gil1.png 11:43, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  12. Mainly for Anima. lol -User:Wtdrmfrthwbzn
  13. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 15:53, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Seymour's got Anima, 'Nuff said Pzykosiz 23:25, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  15. This is a hard one, I like/hate both of them. But I liked how we got to see a more human side of Seymour's evil, which we didn't see in Dysley. skygrinder14 17:50, May9, 2011 (UTC)
  16. RenoZellRikku 09:01, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Goo Rayder 09:56, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
  18. "All hail, Maester Seymour!" I love this guy he have better designed plot than Galenth (Aeon summoning, ultimate destruction—not to remake the world— and he is the perfect villain in the series!—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 13:19, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
  19. His resolve is admirable.  The SirLaguna Dissicon ff8 Lag1.png 18:41, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Lol he's insane and awesome and I love his GC. People stop voting please if you never have been able to play the game with both :3. User:Ilona eggy 23:37, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
  21. As much as I love Spacepope, it's got to be Seymour. If only for his music. Rafflesia 14:41, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
  22. Seymour is as evil as it gets. He killed his daddy. He has ANIMA!RoxasTheRanger 15:38, May 11, 2011
  23. My vote is for Seymour I mean I don't like the guy but he's better than Galenth. He left a bigger impact for me while playing FFX and his Battle Theme, Fight with Seymour, is just so awesome! #Maykite 23:34, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
  24. It's Seymour for me. You never got to play as Barthandelus, for a start, and Seymour didn't transform into anything with a really screwed-up face. Though admittedly, he WAS screwed up. And the hair. Oh, the hair! Tia-Lewise 22:44, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
  25. The fact that you had to fight Seymour numerous times was pathetic and kinda funny in a weird way. He made me laugh with his useless persistence. Dysley on the other hand, was very capable of killing me which I guess made for the better challenge but started to get very annoying very quickly.... --XOneWingedAngelx 00:03, May 13, 2011 (UTC)
  26. i love seymour more as a character then Super pope, in my opinion he is more memorable, his hair defies gravity, a great battle theme and was a great villain overall Judge Magister Pyarox 06:51, May 13, 2011 (UTC)
  27. This is irrelevant; Seymour to me was the hottest man in Final Fantasy. Meaning he'll get my vote over other important reasons because I'm a fag. While I don't like his voice, he is preferred over Dysley. Dsyley, well yes his story and plot are more fascinating, and he does have some awesome name(s) ... --Gunji 09:11, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
  28. Was in the greatest Final Fantasy game of all time, that's gotta count for something. What is His Royal Non-Canonness doing in the Colosseum? Guess you must have run out of good ideas. --AuronKaizer! 19:36, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
  29. --BiggsandWedge 20:23, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
  30. Kaihime 17:38, May 20, 2011 (UTC) Seymour has more depth, and you can sympathize with him more(kinda), at least more then Dysley. Seymour actually had a purpose in doing what he did, in dedication to his father. Dysley was just a human hating Fal'cie. Plus if Seymour didn't have those freaky anntenae hair things, he'd be hot. Kaihime 13:37, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
  31. 22:33, May 20, 2011 (UTC) Way more involvement in Final Fantasy X tha Dysley was in FFXIII. Not to mention he was a playable character that rocked. Plus Anima. Plus his boss fights were fun. Plus....
  32. Seymour for the win. Obvious to even Blind Freddy, that this Super Guado Maniac with many different forms, magic power for the hacks and being a playable character that made a 'tough' battle epically easy, Seymour is clearly the winner when compared to the Wannabe Superpope that Dysley tries to be. As well, as the fact he has Anima, Seymour is a true embodiment of the Magical Super villain that we have come to expect from the Final Fantasy Series, something Dysley is not. XxGuado_SeymourxX 2:50, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
  33. Seymour is'n my first choise of badguy, but his dream of becoming sin is a decent plot, imo. Dysley allso ha a good thing there with ending lifes to summon mother (sounds a bil like the summoning of omega in dirge of cerebus, tho), even if I have a bit of a problem with the creator-of-the-world-thing there. But in the end you'll interact a lot more with saymour and he weren't from FFXIII, witch I didn't like at all. Allso the fight agains Seymour were a lot more fun than Dysleys. Lame stationary robot-thing. Like the sholders tho, and part of the music The Rood Inverse 14:00, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. 15:51, May 9, 2011 (UTC) Hate them both, but Seymour has Anima therefore he is the lesser of two evils.
  2. 18:24, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  3. 00:06, May 10, 2011 (UTC) Seymour, if only because of Anima and he was in the earlier game (which for me is a general way to tell the characters are a bit more genuine).
  4. 09:27, May 15, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Definitely Seymour, as he is from my personal favorite game of ALL time. Besides the personal bias, I definitely think he is a more compelling character. A tragic childhood that drove him to desire the erradication of all life to free the world from pain and suffering. Definitely more compelling than some pompous machine god that simply wants his own death and would seek to destroy everything to get it. 16:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Votes for Galenth[edit source]

  1. Superpope has all I want from a villain: He manipulates the party (and everyone else) to an extent even we as players aren't sure what's true anymore, he has some awesome quotes, and an awesome battle theme, as well as interesting battles. What more could one want? MirrorshardSceada 21:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
  2. MSS puts it perfectly. 22:46, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Jimcloud 23:29, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Koharu Nami 23:46, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
  5. MMLN メーマウリアン 00:37, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  6. The fact that he represented our world's problems. Corrupted government, munipulations, the lust for power, the whole lot. BTW, his battle theme is just plain awesome. I mean, listen to the opeing words: GIVE ME MONEH. FOR DA HORSE. FOR. DA. HOOOOORSE!!!xD SquallRocks 04:01, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  7. ^ Isn't it Latin?! Clarent  (talk/ contribs)05:49, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Galenth is really Barthandulas and Barthandalus is amazing. User:Genesisrocks
  9. --ClixPsi 11:59, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  10. Hm... I don't know either of them too well, but this guy looks like the Pope. The Pope as a villain? That, I'd like to see.Mynameissora 13:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  11. I voted for the one with the cooler shirt. LC 14:11, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  12. I really like Galenth, he is a pretty good villain, one of the bests imo. And he also speaks a lot of times like a poet, which is pretty cool. Seymour on the other hand is "a guy with giant blue hair-antlers" (kudos for you if you guessed where the quote is from). --RazielZero 14:28, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  13. What Seymour Guado did to Yuna just wasn't right so I'd have to vote for Galenth--Vaan008 15:33, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Balthierfan 17:22, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  15. I'm voting for Dysley because his Fal'cie form is Barthandalus, and Barthandalus took me weeks to beat, unlike Seymour. He also has cool battle quotes like "this is the power of the Fal'cie" and "You shall taste agony".User:Time Master --Time Master 21:32, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  16. I haven't gotten to him yet, but I've been enjoying XIII so much lately, that nearly anything in it just blows X out of the water for me. I'll give props to Seymour, he was... entertaining, along Kuja's line, but I like my villains more manipulative (which is why I play the Emperor on Disidia 012.) King of Noobs 22:57, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
  17. He's the ultimate manipulator and is ultra annoying to fight sometimes. His dialogue is well written and well voiced, plus he's a god figure. Sorry Seymour, but my vote goes to the "Kill tens of millions so I can see my mommy/daddy again" dude.Makoenergy99 07:17, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
  18. Because Barthandulas is a boss you love to hate.Rictisempra 18:21, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
  19. Galenth may be one of the least known bad guys, but I think he's cool... At least way, way, way, WAY cooler than Mr. Guado there. F.F.Freak18:47, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
  20. LTFabrettiChocobo Dragoon.png 22:51, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Final Fantasy XIII. That is all. --No.i 00:20, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
  22. The Pope has a better voice actor and is less annoying than Seymour Skinner Guado. SidVI 10:09, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
  23. Dysley's fighting fate is a way better song compared to Seymour's FFIII ripoff song and i love his intelligent old english quotes. Furthermore Seymour's voice sounds like someone who has his pants on too tight. theWOL 19:47, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Because 1) He's the superpope. 2) His plan to destroy Cocoon was incredibly well planned, despite it failing. --Sove 12:50, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
  25. --Trindadex 17:29, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
  26. --He's better in everyway, more evil, manipualtive and bett VA. He's Magneto mixed with the Pope and Megatron. FFXIII all the way ! --Marluxia13 21:20, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
  27. An unsent summoner? Galenth is MORE THAN THAT. - Henryacores^ 22:55, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
  28. --This guys awesome and seems like a real antagonist. Seymor reminds me of some weird cross between Michael Jackson, Michael Myers, and Prince. AlVan 23:45, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
  29. Dysley Is Like One The Best Bosses Ever, Because It Takes A While To Defeat Him, And I Like A Challenge. But It's Kind Of Hard To Decide Still, I Like Both Dysley And Seymour!! Anyway, Dysley Is Just Plain AWESOME!!!! Anyway, I Was Like "Heck Yeah" When I Saw Him And Till This Day I'm Like: "He's Hot",lol.--AlgolurithSeive 22:24, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
  30. This is a tough one for me, but superpope wins! GlassAngel13 20:28, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. This guy. Seymour's voice is just so terrible, and while this guy is less developed, he has an awesome battle theme and a nice design. 20:16, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
  2. 23:59, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
  3. He's a robot pope, with badass dialogue, awesome music, awesome design, awesome battle. How can you not love him? 10:15, May 15, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Superpope fal'cie beats a super annoying momma's boy 14:39, May 16, 2011 (UTC)
  5. 19:30, May 18, 2011 (UTC) Galenth Dysley is a part of a vast, epic mythology that is literally unfolding over another sequel, one whos influence will be felt for generations - the guy is directly responsible for the destruction of Cocoon, thousands (possibly millions) of deaths, nearly added "Genocidist" to his list of "achievements" because of the failed Purge, and has managed to conceal his true hand in all of this as the fal'Cie Barthandelus. Seymour? Aside from having the nerdiest name of any villain in history, he is really just a crazy mamma's boy who causes a bit of havoc before finally being taken down. He was more of a nuisance than an actual threat. I mean, why was he even in the game? You could have taken Seymour out of the equation and it would have had NO impact on the narrative except for removing a couple of boss fights.
  6. RAGNAROK! de dies irae~...
  7. He is just more badass, flying around and killing everyone in the room, then manipulating the whole party, and then planning to kill everybody.
  8. Superpope ftw. 14:24, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Can't beat the moment the priest turns into a giant black robot Behemoth that pities your tokyo pop band of merry homos.. 16:33, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery[edit source]

MirrorshardSceada, I give you Kudos Points for "Superpope." Made my evening. King of Noobs 22:57, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

It took me about 40 tries before I beat Barthandalus the first time around. And then it took me forever to beat him as the second-to-last boss. I seriously spent probably 10 of my (currently) 12o-something hourse of XIII playtime fighting Dysley. So, he's awesome. A.J. two (Smashboards) 23:14, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

@Clarent:...well ya, but that sounds cooler. xD SquallRocks 00:00, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Eh. It's really funny how you "translated" it. Nice work! Clarent  (talk/ contribs) 06:00, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Seymour has never been exactly what I would call "badass" mostly because the term is very overused but I have to admit this one line sold me: "If you're offering your lives, I will have to take them" And I'm also just a little ashamed to admit that I find him quite attractive....*sigh* I've never admitted that before --XOneWingedAngelx 00:08, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

cool my entry made it in :P Judge Magister Pyarox 06:49, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

I think "Votes for" should be: "Votes for Maester" (Seymour) and "Votes for Primarch" (Dysley), but that's my own opinion. Generally, good fight.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 13:11, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with every thing people stated about Dysley in his favor. He is many, many times harder to defeat in a fight, his backstory is more than just a deceitful wedding, and he certainly can hold your attention much longer. But Seymour had me in a vice since X crossed the Earth's surface. FFXIII is better than FFX overall however. --Gunji 09:27, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Everyone is saying Dysley is a hard boss, yet if you level up your character like you would in any other ff (which most people dont because of how linear the game is) he is very easy to beat. 22:22, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, well, just to clarify some thing .. I've played more than my share of Final Fantasy titles so that said - I know how to level up. Also, this was speaking in terms of Seymour. Dysley is a much harder boss .. Than Seymour. You can't tell me people had a hard time on the Guado.--Gunji 14:05, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

This battle has been going on for an absurdly long time! LTFabrettiChocobo Dragoon.png 16:20, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I thought we all agreed that we wouldn't be doing that anymore? King of Noobs 21:49, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Fight 171: YRP v. SHM[edit source]

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47 to 25 1/2
You might say this is the battle of bizarre, awkward, and forced trios cleverly abbreviated to not-quite-pop-culture standings by a three letter acronym... at least thats how everyone I know talks about it. WINNER!
47 to 25 1/2

Votes for the Chicks[edit source]

  1. Chicks before dicks(?) -LC 10:08, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Simple. MystRay 10:28, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  3. MMLN メーマウリアン 10:38, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  4. I don't consider any prequel/sequel canon. So, when faced with two canon characters versus none, I'm siding with Yunie and Rikku. ClixPsi 11:24, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Master Conjurer 12:29, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Never really liked the Mama's Boys. King of Noobs 13:04, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  7.  Armageddon11! Dissicon ff12 Gab2.png 14:44, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  8. We need more love for YRP. Besides, Rikku is awesome. Equa-Chan 15:06, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  9. three kickass girls vs. three whiny boys hmm....Sailorwinx 17:11, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  10. In position, it's showtime girls! BoAKaNRikkusmallsig.png 01:05, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
  11. the guys were just as girly as these girls!!! Biziorek 03:49, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
  12. DiamondEdge 15:05, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
  13. The momma's boys really creeped me out. 21:06, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
  14. I'm certainly not their biggest fan, but they are certainly better than a bunch of Sephiroth copies with mommy issues. Nyarly 00:24, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Y R P in position. --BurstDragon 01:42, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
  16. Dr. P is in the house! --Marael 02:52, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
  17. Yesplz. -User:Wtdrmfrthwbzn
  18. Gullwings take the gold!  CloudyKrystal Dissicon ff7 Clo2.png 05:19, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
  19. Has 2 of my favourite characters, why wouldn't I vote for them? Cunno 06:59, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
  20. Mierna 19:09, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Goo Rayder 15:41, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
  22. Sucky game, but its still got Yuna and Rikku. Advent Children is an awesome movie, but those bad guys sound like snobby little kids. StarNinja99 That chick that cried! 17:33, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
  23. Like lots of people I dislike X-2(and X in general to be fair). As stupid as they and all their outfits are, YRP has WAY more personality. Loz was the only SHM who came anywhere near close enough to be cool. AC blows big time, at least X-2 has good gameplay since it bit off other good RPGs to make it work.AnonyMan 02:22, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
  24. Y.R.P in position... i love tha phrase!!!! Rikku Trepe
  25. I like all of the YRP trio most especially Paine. Loz was cool, Yazoo and Kadaj were okay. Kamukamo 07:34, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
  26. YRP are the best!! They have to win :D User: Migas94
  27. GlassAngel13 10:49, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
  28. Yuna and her special dressphere, Floral Fallal.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 17:38, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
  29. YRP man, trio trying to kill a supermachina vs. a trio wanting to bring back a superbeing, please killing one than creating one is better. Masterodin 8:58, April 26, 2011(UTC)
  30. YRP all the way. I know X-2 gets a lot of hate, but man, that was one awesome game. RumDrools 08:03, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
  31. --Maverick King 16:38, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
  32. Have the advantage of looking and acting like women and actually being women, unlike these other "guys". And oh, what women they are. Without going into too much details, let's just say they all have their individual... talents. Dunno if you realized that, but crappy excuses to bring Sephiroth back kinda... pale in comparison. --AuronKaizer! 23:17, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
  33. YRP!! I loved FFX-2 and Rikku <3 CloakedDeception 03:43, April 28, 2011 (UTC)
  34. YRP FTWPzykosiz 04:15, April 29, 2011 (UTC)
  35. Chicks. Nuff said. Strife2816
  36. My Vote goes here.--KiraArik 17:06, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
  37. Posiker 18:53, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
  38. It's showtime, girls. Agent0042 03:52, May 3, 2011 (UTC)
  39. I'd go with the chicks! Kuzlalala 16:32, May 3, 2011 (UTC)
  40. Haven't been here for a while. Like YRP, don't care about SHM, etc. A.J. two (Smashboards) 20:06, May 4, 2011 (UTC)
  41. Very easy SidVI 09:44, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
  42. Yuna is my favorite FF gal, so its an easy decision for me... TheWOL 20:35, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
  43. Who doesn't love Wilson Phillips? That's who I'm voting for... right? --BlueHighwind 16:05, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
  44. The whole "YRP," girl-power, super-campy thing may have been annoying and a terrible coat of paint on a brilliant innovation of the Job System, but at least these characters were somewhat three-dimensional. The Remnants were little more than flashy fighters. --Hoogathy 13:09, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. This vote could not be easier 15:13, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  2. 17:30, April 20, 2011 (UTC)I only have one thing to say to the Remnants: "I don't like your plan. It sucks." (originally Yuna to Nooj just before fighting Vegnagun) Yes, I just did bring up an instance of a White Mage (Yuna's original job-class apart from Summoner) essentially dissing a George Newbern character and getting away with it.
  3. Let's see, 3 pretty ladies versus 3 guys with an Oedipus complex who wish they were pretty ladies; a crappy sequel that at least had decent gameplay versus a crappy sequel that had no redeeming qualities unless you wanted to have fun by counting how many times the word mother was said (I lost count at around 35), and something bad that you could actually interact with and manipulate to some degree versus something that was just bad and you could do nothing but continue watching or shut it off. Seems like a no contest to me. Both groups, and their respective medium, should have never been created, don't get me wrong, and they have plenty of stuff in common about them that's bad, but overall YRP is superior. Also going beyond their medium and how stupid they were portrayed in the sequel compared to the original, YRP could utterly and completely destroy those Sephiroth rejects.
  4. 19:16, April 20, 2011 (UTC)Best team in the ff series. Everyone has so much hate for FFX-2, but i love these guys. Also, why would you vote for those other freaks. Whinning about their mum all the time, trying to be like Sephiroth, who sucks anyway. Grow some balls like these guys.
  5. 23:51, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  6. I just love X-2; say what you want it about, the story being lackluster or whatnot, but I love the work they put into Paine and her connections all across Spira. 01:10, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
  7. I dont really care much about X-2 but rikku was cool in X pain is a badass and they made Yuna not much as a wimp and hell like the guy up at the beginning said "chicks before dicks"
  8. Hey, the choice is easy! These girls are playable and pack a lot more punch!
  9. On the other hand... Anonymous #3 has a really good argument...

Votes for the Dudes[edit source]

  1.  Kamikaze Pardee Dissicon ff5 Gil1.png 05:32, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Jimcloud 05:36, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  3. 05:40, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  4. evil vs annoying. hmmm...evil always.Balthierfan 10:27, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  5. ANYTHING BUT THE MUSIC! ANYTHING BUT THE MUSIC! *explodes* Gil's Page - Colosseum - Master - Blog - Talk 13:59, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Yazoo reminds me of milkshake. I love milkshake. --Leon95 14:13, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  7. I would usually vote for the girls over the guys, but this time I have to give my vote for them. Even if they weren't intended to be funny, they actually are :) --RazielZero 21:21, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Hasn't this been done at somebody else's arena? Just sayin'. SquallRocks 21:36, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Woo Mama's boys, family values an such hehe...I just hate YRP Noir Infernal 14:58, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
  10. Haha! Sephiroth bits.--Gunji 03:53, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
  11. Everyone knows that DNC is slow.
  12. X-2 Sucks and Advent Children is a pretty awesome movie plus lotz's ringtone is beast User:L'cieBeast 19:50, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
  13. Rictisempra 18:30, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
  14. Dodongray23 12:00, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
  15. Advent Children is a pretty awesome movie plus loz's ringtone is awesome --XxNoctisxx 01:01, April 25, 2011 (UTC)xxNoctisxx
  16. - Metusylc0304 09:13, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
  17. idk even though i really like those girls i gotta vote for these guys, because they are so funny in the movie! lol they might be mama boys but who caress Nomura said that they were designed to look and act like Nomura's 6 year old son, and that's why they make such funny sound effects with their mouths... i mean, aren't they just hilarious? though i didn't like the way they treat the lady haha HighSeraph 8:36, April 26, 2011(UTC)
  18. They are pretty lame, and eaven tho they look a little like Sephiroth, they'r not hot chicks. Lame script, plot and other lame stuff, and still it is better than X-2 (whose only good feat is the hot chicks mentioned over). It's a close call (AC>X-2, but not nesesearly SHM>YRP)... In the end Sephiroth is the thing that tips the scales. The Rood Inverse 14:04, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
  19. get your but kicked by tifa and get back up is pretty good + they look sephy Squall 2.0
  20. Rinoa Leonheart 17:42, April 30, 2011 (UTC)17:38, April 30, 2011 (UTC) lol this is a funny one i played X-2 so i know YRP is toast OH YEAH17:42, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
  21. Kadaj's sword. User:Genesisrocks
  22. Exoesqueleto7 14:53, May 02, 2011 (UTC)
  23. Loz gonna kill YRP with only one punch!!!--Hotdragon 295 23:07, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes[edit source]

  1. Pretty Boys over Pretty awful. 15:01, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
  2. 23:01, April 20, 2011 (UTC)SHM, only because Loz is hot.
  3. 23:12, April 21, 2011 (UTC)Because they remind me of people I hang out with. xD
  4. Well, I do believe they are both rather awesome... But one thing makes the Sephiroth Remnants stand out: Motorcycles. # 19:08, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
  5. 09:07, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Peanut Gallery[edit source]

Wow, I always thought that people here hated Final Fantasy X-2. --Marael 02:53, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Apparently, numbered titles > sequels > sequels that are also movies. :P Master Conjurer 03:12, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
Its not that, but that for some the girls are one of the few redeeming features. Balthierfan 21:01, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'm seeing a lot of dissing for SHM. ... Come on. This is Barbie dolls vs. Jurassic Park. I don't hate YRP, I actually find them likable. <3Paine. But Unfunf Yazoo and Kadaj. --Gunji 03:58, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

They're more than barbie dolls. I fell in love with Yuna and Rikku in X, and then I was rather impressed by the work put into Paine's backstory in X-2, despite the short plot. Master Conjurer 13:03, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

" .. I was rather impressed by the work put into Paine's backstory in X-2, despite the short plot." Agreed. --Gunji 00:47, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Here here! RumDrools 08:05, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

"Well, I do believe they are both rather awesome... But one thing makes the Sephiroth Remnants stand out: Motorcycles. # 19:08, April 22, 2011 (UTC)" What, the Celsius isn't bike enough for ya? Sure, it's the love child of a hot rod, a bike and an airship, but still... King of Noobs 11:11, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

How unfortunate!!! I can't decide... I mean YRP are hot chicks but SHM are awesome and kicking some Turk @$$ and giving Cloud running for his Gil. I can't decide... UGH! Shinryu1991 19:54, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

WORST FIGHT EVER!--LTFabrettiChocobo Dragoon.png 22:54, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Seriously how come no one likes Loz? He has alot more personality than Kadaj and ESPECIALLY Yazoo(I forget if he even spoke), he's the only one who doesn't look like a teenage girl and he was actually a little funny. He rarely gets mentioned with the other SHM granted they all suck but still he was the closest to not sucking. AnonyMan 02:42, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

@AnonyMan ".. he's the only one who doesn't look like a teenage girl" That would be your reason right there. --Gunji 03:46, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

...Hmmm, I can see your point. He wouldn't be popular with the fan girls because he's easier to identify as a man. AnonyMan 12:57, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

The results of this fight do not surprise me. YRP contains three characters with awesome back stories, and the Remnants are just... there.  TheBlueDragoon Dissicon ff10 Yun1.png14:56, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I must compliment someone for making up a fight that YRP could win.Discordius Erisianus 18:42, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

  1. They help get Tidus back. Just saying. I really Love FFVII and the fact the Kadaj turns into Sephiroth but in the end the game was a game that you could play and the movie was just a movie.--KiraArik 17:04, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
I may be alone in this, but my position is that bringing Tidus back undermines the strength of the whole narrative of FFX, which ain't much.Discordius Erisianus 00:53, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
Not alone. The fact that his "sacrifice" was reversed doesn't balance out. He died. That's that. We have enough freaks coming back from the dead already. King of Noobs 04:21, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Just to note, Tidus didn't die, he never technically existed and therefore couldn't die. Just like Auron din't die, he was already dead (talking about the ending) May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me, or has this battle been going on for an ABSURDLY long time? Mynameissora 17:26, May 8, 2011 (UTC)



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