Week 80: Seifer v. Kadaj[]
Winner!! DRAW 45.5 to 41 |
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Misc. misguided male youth, go! Long coats, unorthodox swords, and a grudge with the heroes, these two come from two installments of the Final Fantasy franchise that have a true love-hate relationship with the fandom. But in a fight, who can beat who? | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]I hope I'm not the first to say that Seifer can't fight at all and he's matched against someone who once pwnd Cloud. TattoodManNo7 01:33, 29 August 2008 (UTC) Two votes for Seifer and I already see the pattern of votes for him...Seifer may have killed Odin, but then he got whipped by Gilgamesh! Just reminding you of that. Drake Clawfang
It sucks Kingdom Hearts ruined Seifer; where's his rivalry with Squall, it would've been cool. --AnonyMan 12:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Huh, TacticAngel actually bothered to make a fight this week. I kinda hoping he had moved on to other things. Well, whatever, I can't hide my disappointment. Anyway, how do you pronounce "Seifer". I've always been a "SIGHfer" kind of guy, but I often hear "SEEfer", which just sounds idiotic. --BlueHighwind 12:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
So... do I vote for Seifer 'cause of the Badass Longcoat and cool weapon or for Kadaj 'cause he has a great Evil Laugh and is connected to Sephy? OtOcon^_- 14:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Seifer is connected to Gilgamesh, while Kadaj gets his own custom Bahamut summon. Lol. Drake Clawfang Man, this is all i gotta say. People here who are against final Fantasy VII will not vote for them at all costs. Good bye Final Fantasy VII winning streaks. -Zack fair 007
Hmm! A close fight. This one should be interesting, though I've thrown my vote for the gunblade-wielder. --Tex HOWDY!!! 22:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to point out to the one Kadaj voter's comment. The "GunBlade" the two cronies use are really just firearms. Something the Gunblade is in fact not(despite it's name). --AnonyMan 13:52, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Whoever left anonymous vote #4 kinda freaked me out a little.-BlueLionheart Sephiroth should be disqualified for having too many emoticons, and the abundance of 'gay level'...Seymour2012
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Week 79: Celes Chere vs Beatrix[]
Winner!! Celes 40½ to 31 |
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Benevolent and traitorous at the same time, these white-clad maidens of mayhen turned on their masters and joined the heroes, and some might say stole the show from them too. Can the Paladin of Alexandria cut Celes down to size, or will the General of Vector freeze Beatrix in her tracks? | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]Oh..... so hard.... to choose........can't choose..... gah... 8bit 03:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Thought I would see a better one. No offense though. Otens
Finally, my girl gets back in there! In my book, Celes > Everybody. Yes, even Tifa and her two best friends. RowdyCMoore
BTW, gotta speak out against the anon vote that says Celes "keeps betraying everyone." Excuse me? She only "betrayed" the Empire for obvious reasons. Is this person referring to the Magitek factory scene? Kefka was lying through his teeth then! Rowdy
LMAO i thought that Beatrix was from FF4 with those graphics :P like the ds remake. LOL -Zack fair 007 Oh why are people making a big deal about Beatrix killing 100 knights? Zack whooped like 300,000...minus 3 Zack fair 007
WOW you guys are taking ths too seriously. everyone can't just hate FFVII just because people like it. That's basically what happened. They arent milking cash cows, they ARE MEETING FAN DEMANDS FOR A GOOD GAME, THATS WHAT. And yeah, it was 100,000 to 300,000 as stated before. Zack is not a lab rat. So Shut the fuck up. And beatrix still looks like ff4 ds graphics. At least FF7's was cute.
Dayum And zack is awesome, and yeah he was experimented on but that doesn't make him any sort of rat. Sephiroth was a lab rat, because he was BORN AN EXPERIMENT. i still like him tho. And anyone other than me not hate ffvii and joined the rebel gropu " like ffvi because other people hate ffvii" Zack fair 007
It's 31-24. Starting to pull away. I'll give Beatrix credit - she's putting up more of a fight than Ultros did. Rowdy
And it looks like Celes will hold on for the win. Her next opponent - Tifa and her weapons of mass destruction! Rowdy
I would've voted for Beatrix.... --Crazyswordsman 04:35, 15 August 2008 (UTC) |
Week 78: Recurring Comic Relief Boss Battle - Ultros v. Gilgamesh[]
Winner!! Gilgamesh 65 to 21 |
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These guys again? They make you laugh (or try their best to). These are the the comic relief monsters from the SNES games. Which is superior, the greedy octopus who has more lives than he does arms, or the incompetent multi-armed epic hero for whom IT'S MORPHING TIME!? | |||||
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I gotta say, with 19 votes in favor and none again, I cannot recall a fight suggestion for the DNC ever getting so much support. This should be good. Drake Clawfang 00:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
GYAH! How is it possible that I'm LOSING to that six-armed FREAK! Y'all want me to eight-slap each one of you, huh? I AM THE ALMIGHTY, ALL-KNOWING RECEPCIONIST! Uwee-hee-hee-hee... -Ultros 15:39, 23 July 2008 (UTC) =)
Well well, after a week of hearing people complain the Yuna-Aeris or Rydia-Rosa would be too one-sided, we get the battle everyone wanted, and it's turning out to be a FREAKING BLOWOUT??!! Hmmmmm...RowdyCMoore
Anyone remember the battle music against Ultros in the Opera House? I thought that music was kind of catchy. 8bit 01:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Gilgamesh:55; ultros:18. cant we move on? Leon5550
LOLOL Gilgamesh is kicking ass.....sorry Ultros Can we please end this and move on?
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Week 77: Twin Battle II - Basch/Gabranth v. Edgar/Sabin[]
Winner!! Figaros 46 to 36.5 |
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The second battle of twins, these a little more serious. In the left hand corner, we have the two opposing forces of the fon Ronsenburg camp. In the right hand corner, we have the Figaro camp. Knight, Judge; Engineer, Monk. Who reigns supreme? | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]I know final fantasy 12, but those two suck. I hate their guts. But who are Edgar and sabin? someone tell me so i have a reason to vote for them. Zack fair 007 04:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Supposely the Ronsenburg Brothers should win, but I also think of the Figaro Brothers as the supreme. However I have no choice on which brothers should I vote for. - Mateus
Just wanna say, if Basch is the hero and Gabranth is the villain, then I think Cecil and Golbez would have been a more appropriate pair to pit them against. But they'd still lose as they are now I'd think. Cecil/Golbez vs Edgar/Sabin would be more of a fair fight. Drake Clawfang 06:03, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
To Tragedian, since when is Edgar a pervert? He is a flirt, yes, but he definitely did not touch Terra's butt or peep on Celes changing. --VN
The twins aren't that bad. They were quite good even, in my book. They had their moments (being turned to stone). But rapha and marach, man. so horrible. tactics didn't need 'em--Firionklauser
I just added about five more "DO NOT ADD COMMENTS OR EDIT ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE!!!" because somebody can't seem to read. Maybe if I put more up, he will be able to pay attention. I'm going to Rollback the next edit I see that screws up this page's format. I don't care what you just said. --BlueHighwind 01:22, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
1. Me want cookie! 2. All your final fantasy are belong to us! 3. Refer to 1. the dark knight kicked ass!! heath ledger truly outdid himself, and even jack nicholson. he should win a posthumous oscar if you ask me. thats all im gonna say without spoiling it. GO SEE THAT MOVIE!! Etch
I was gone for five days correct? So why is this fight still up? In one hour, I'm changing it to Gilgamesh vs. Ultros unless TacticAngel swoops in and corrects things. (This is all at risk of being Banned, but I can deal with that.) I assume there will be no objections. --BlueHighwind 21:59, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
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Week 76: Vincent v. Balthier[]
Winner!! Vincent Valentine 46 to 30 |
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Barret was a gunner too, but these are the finesse guys. | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]Yes, I anticipate a landslide. --TacticAngel 21:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC) Since this fight is turning out oddly equal (thought I seriously do not think this will last for long), I believe it is time for an argument. Now, Dirge of Cerberus is not a good game. In fact, its the worst Final Fantasy ever. Yet for every wrong opinion, there is one person who sadly believes in it. Just try me. I challenge somebody to defend Dirge of Cerberus. Match set! --BlueHighwind 23:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm finding this majority for Vincent completely unacceptable. He's a NOBODY. A mediocre character at best, only a child of seven could be fooled into thinking he's cool. Cloud, Tifa, Barret, Cid, and even Aeris are all better characters. I remind you all, that he's up against BALTHIER - probably the best character Final Fantasy has seen since FFVII. Have you played War of the Lions? He kicks every color of ass. Nelo, you can wait another month or so until you get a Medal of Honor. --BlueHighwind 00:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
That's it. Bye bye. This sucks, and I don't want to watch this travesty any more. Wake me next Thursday (or do new fights come on Saturday now?). I'm outta here. --BlueHighwind 01:37, 6 July 2008 (UTC) People may want to remove their pity votes for Vincent now~ ^^; —Yumino This sucks. I love both these characters too much. Zack fair 007 I have no idea which Gunner is better. Their outfit looks good, and they kick more ass. Vincent, or Balthier? - Mateus Uhh? Why is Vincent a Vampire? He is a fucking experiment, not Vampire. - Otens
Holy heck, I swear Vincent's vote count just doubled after I voted. --AnonyMan 03:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC) My vote is for the underdog, Vincent Valentine. Death Penalty FTW. --Tex 05:25, 6 July 2008 (UTC) Seriously, I'm tired of people calling Vincent the underdog. He's not. He's beating Balthier (though that's subject to change), and a lot of people who have voted (including myself) believe that Vincent is just as cool as Balthier. --Masamune I'm surprised... I was expecting the opposite; Balthier pwning Vincent. I thought people hate emo dudes. Oh well... But don't be stupid guys, you shouldn't judge a character based on how good the game is. That is totally biased. I like them both, but Vincent wins my vote because of his enigma. --VN Just for the record, I think XII is far superior. - dudutsai
If Balthier loses I may just die a bit on the inside.High Summoner 03:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC) Yes, Dirge Of Cerberus sucked, in fact, I can't say a single good thing about it. But hell, you know what, Revenant Wings sucked too (I'm actually playing it now). You can't count Tactics because I don't count a)remakes, or b)cameos (that's right, Cloud doesn't count in Tactics either). Vincent can count in Advent Children and somewhat Crisis Core(still, more of a cameo), and seeing as none of us have played Before Crisis, can't say shit about that. Number of appearences don't matter though, how cool they were in them on average is. Vincent is cooler in his three appearences than Baltheir is in his two. (I should note that I don't visit the DNC very often, so if you really want a response from me, then hit me up.) -- Drake Just as a generic note, it never fails to amuse me how many people can be die-hard VII fans, but hate the rest of the Compilation...for the record, Advent Children kicked ass. Drake Clawfang 04:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Um, my vote for Vincent was deleted for some reason. Rydiaofmist
Vincent is pwning now. Sora G. Strife yumiko: well um i think there is some misconception of vincent. i noticed there was a anon vote for balthier (i dont know which number 'cause im to lazy to check) that said that he chose to sleep in a coffin etc. vincent didn't choose to sleep in a coffin. he was injured by hojo and then lucretia put chaos into him to save him. i mean any person who played vii would know that. so plz play the game or read the article before you start spewing nonsense. "_"
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Week 75 - Bad Fight Week III[]
Time Battle[]
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Real-time Battle
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Winner!! ATB 42 to 26 to 8½ |
Final Fantasy started out humble, sporting a turn based system. Order might have been randomized (or not) depending on the game, but I-III all had a turn based system. Final Fantasy IV was the advent of "ATB" or Active Time Battle, where different characters and actions might charge, recharge, or be used with different time allotments. Time may stop or continue as you wait to do something, but through X-2, all FF were on the ATB system, even Final Fantasy Tactics. The latest two installments, the online Final Fantasy XI and the single player Final Fantasy XII both have real time systems, relying on player imput or programmed actions... which do you prefer? | ||||
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Peanut Gallery[]I notice my idea was completely ignored without comment. Somebody explain how this is better. Yes, I am pouting. Deal. --BlueHighwind 02:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
What's this? AnonyMan and the 7th Chaos Esper agree on not just one, but two things in the same day? Glorious. A praise to all valkyries in Valhalla's halls. We shall drink and be merry for this week. ChaosEsperVII 1:35 AM June 27, 2008 Haha, no one likes the turn-based system. Dark raven 16:05, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Does the CTB system in X count as turn based? Draga Same Question as Draga. Skoot85 Pablo618:guys, I actually don't hate Turn based, but it the one I like the less Leon5550:Sure Turn Based is old, like FFI. but like FFI, its the one that started it all and we have to pay them the respect they deserves. Respect ur elders. MissRora: Real Time? Seriously? FFXII had more of a "Real Time-ATB Hybrid" or something. Seriously, Real Time is Kingdom Hearts. Get it right! >.<
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Laguna v. Jecht[]
Winner!! Jecht 40 to 31½ |
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Now he're something we can all pretend to care about; if you were a bizarre, almost father-like figure from the past, would you rather be a part of a three stooges allusion or do you prefer the shirtless tribal look? | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]Weird thought: How is Laguna likable? He might be a nice guy, but he's still a loser. Much like Tidus in an odd way. Now Jecht, he's a cool dude. He might be a bit of a jerk, but who would you rather hang with? A cool jerk, or a nice loser? I think this one is pretty obvious. Nice losers are only there to make you look better in comparison, and so that you can manipulate and abuse the Hell out of their naivety. Maybe that's what you people want in freinds, but I'm not that cold. --BlueHighwind 18:40, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
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Terra v. Aeris[]
Winner!! DRAW 35½ to 35½ |
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This fight needs no explanation. Despite any parallels they may actually hold in game, the fact is they are two of the most beloved female protagonists in Final Fantasy. | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]Nice work, on whomever did the description for the fight. Two half-breed mistresses of magic with the responsibility of saving the world. And they've both got the red/pink thing going on... Drake Clawfang 04:20, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Vote #6 is actually quite right. Aerith's Theme is beautiful, easily one of my favorite pieces of music in FF. Of course, I can say the exactly same thing about Terra's Theme. -Faethin 05:04, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Seriously people? the only excuse for hating Aerith is that she died? At least she was still active even after dying. Oh btw #7, her death brought her to the Lifestream, which made her much more powerful. Her dying was essential to saving the planet. ChaosEsperVII 1:31 AM June 27, 2008
Yumiko: Um i noticed a vote for terra that said they hated Aerith. At least state a reason why you hated her. Jeez. >:(
I would be ashamed to be in the company of such reasoning as has backed Terra so far. --TacticAngel 00:14, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Hm, currently the vote is 38 to 33.5...if Aeris gets only two more registered votes, we'd have a tie. And for once I wouldn't mind that. Drake Clawfang 18:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
MissRora: Half-Esper? I'm thinking, some chick screwed Zodiark. At least Aeris doesn't conjure up any disturbing images. >.<
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Dr. Hojo v. Dr. Cid[]
Winner!! Cidolfus 38½ to 27½ |
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Mad scientists! | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]Pikmin Master: It's more like "Mad scientists who fathered cool guys who appear in more than TWO games!" |
Garnet til Alexandros XVII v. Ashelia B'nargin Dalmasca[]
Winner!! Lady Ashe 41½ to 30 |
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The battle of the princesses with excessively long names! | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]VN: They have something in common; they requested to be kidnapped. I thought FFXII did some sort of rip-off...
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Week 74: Auron v. Basch fon Ronsenburg[]
Winner!! Auron 54 to 27½ |
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These two came back for a round two, as it were; whether imprisoned or supposedly undead. In a round three, one versus the next, who would claim the final victory? | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]So I'm guessing we're done with Annon Votes? --BlueHighwind 23:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC) The 7th Chaos Esper is undecisive.... They were both my muscle characters. The one's that usually ended the battle with a decisive strike. ChaosEsperVII 8:47 PM
I seem to love to instigate things but someone said Basch would beat Auron cuz of multi-class. Umm, the FFX sphere grid makes your characters multi-class. When you cross Auron and Tidus into each other's sphere grids, it just makes the game unbalanced. Not commenting on who beats who, The 7th Chaos Esper is just tossing some knowledge out there. ChaosEsperVII 2:17 AM 20 June 2008.
BigSlurp: I wanted to ask a question fo BlueHighwind. Now, I know for a while the question had been posed about annonymous votes, this is similar, kinda. How about someone possible cheating votes. I know that I voted in the Vivi/Aerith and Lulu/Edea matches that passed not long ago, however my vote in both are gone. Just wanted to see if maybe I got banned from voting by you mods or if someone is going around deleting votes. Just thought I'd bring it up, cause it'd suck o think someone would do that, its pathetic.
I wonder what FFXII would have been like if Basch was the main character. The developers said they were planning on doing that at first. ChaosEsperVII 5:35 PM June 21, 2008
Why would anyone care about a match like this? They both fail and fall only to try and redeem themselves with the support of other characters. I mean they would be awesome if they they could stand alone like Lulu or Ashe. Both were great to start off the story but not to continue it. One should have stayed dead while the other stayed in prison. Its like downing Jagerbombs all night only to end it with a watered down tequila cuz the barkeep wants to save some good stuff for himself. Thats just my two gil I guess. Seraphs blade 22:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Leon5550 I dnt know if this is true, but i think Auron is just waaaaay too overated, sure he's great, but aren't there other's as great as him? Basch is a good example. Auron is just a decent character in a lame game (yes,hate me if u wan't), that is why he is viewed as an awesomme guy, cuz evryone else sucks! Basch, on the other hand is a good character that have Balthier who stole his script and Vaan who stole his role, leaving Basch with nearly nothing while hes supposed to be the most important character in the party (okay, after Ashe). If we put Auron in a game with awesome cast (like FFVI or FFVII), he'll just be a decent guy, not overrated,but not lame. Basch, on the other hand, if placed i the same game but with the script and role he should have , he'll completely stole the spotlight and have Vaan and Balthier with nothin. This is the reason Auron will win, but Basch should win, he won't because squeenix thinks that a sissy hero will make better game (WRONG!!!!) and put the true hero in Balthier's back. Things gonna change if Basch got what he deserves.
lol so who were the ones mentioning that Basch should have had his own prison rape scene...freaking funny lol Seraphs blade 20:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC) 11:44 PM June 23, 2008 Otens: Dammit Maverik, why do you always put your vote first? Geeze, just bugs me is all. |
Week 73: Tidus v. Squall[]
Winner!! Squall 66½ to 28½ |
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Who has more fun? Is it the blonde or the brunette, or better yet, which of these off-lookers would you say would win in a swordfight? | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]Otens: I've either seen this one before or expected it. I'm pretty sure I've expected it though.
Is it Seh-cil, or See-cil? Aeris or Aerith? Tee-dus or Tie-dus? I've got a better question: who cares anymore? Drake Clawfang 05:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
My aren't they the most hated heroes ever? One whiner and one emo. All you care about is hot babes. Meh... anyhow, noble hero stereotypes are so yesterday. So I guess I don't mind their existence. When I play FFX I didn't see Tidus whining, any proof? In the he was the one who break the tradition that about sacrificing summoners to defeat Sin. VN
I am playing X right now and I have to admit that I actually like Tidus more than I thought I would. His voice is annoying but, along with Auron and Rikku, he does not come of as naive like the others do.(at least so far) X has actually been an overall pleasant surprise for me, I find it really fun to play, I like the cast, and I love the Aquatic theme of the game. However I find it hard to vote against Squall in this situation. My only experience with VIII is a demo, but for about 6 years Squall and Cloud were the only two FF protoganists I knew. So I can not hate the guy, plus he was badass in Chocobo Racing. If he continues to dominate though I just may have to give a pity for Tidus.--Oranejo 17:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Who deleted my vote? Cloudofdarkness 15:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Etch, I agree with you 100%. It was the voice acting that was the problem. Even though I did vote for him, I still think I was being a little hard on poor ol' Tidus with my comments. He was generally a good guy. Rydiaofmist
Ya know how come we all seem to hate either the main character or the game itself. X was the first game I had played and it wasnt half bad. The only thing that I have against VIII was the graphics (the pixels are killing me!). We should really vote on what the best game was!.--User:Saraija Merinas Am I seeing things, or did somebody up there call Squall a "butt"? Perhaps we've finally attracted that preschool market that all the wikis are dying for these days. And did that same guy praise Tidus for looking Asian? What's with the racist Japanese jingoism, man? Why would race even be a factor in how much you like a character? --BlueHighwind 22:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
ChaosEsperVII: Someone said that Squall is the most powerfull FF main character. Sorry, that title belongs to Cloud. Cloud has Omnislash. And he is a Sephiroth clone. I think SquareEnix makes it a point to keep him their most powerful hero. The 7th Chaos Esper forever has Cloud's back. Or Vincent could be the strongest main, even though Choas left him, he's still immortal because of Hojo's experiments. The 7th Chaos Esper forever has Vincent's back too.
Can't we just throw in the towel for Tidus already?! He's losing in the most lopsided fight I have seen in the DNC. Squall is just beating the blitzballer like a government mule! --Tex Yumiko: Why does everyone hate Tidus? His voice actor for the english version wasn't that bad. I thought that FFX was one of the most beloved games of all time. I mean like a few years ago VII, VIII, and X were like being worshiped. I guess people in the US are kinda shallow...
Why are there 3 user votes in the anonymous section? --ChiefKakashi 22:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
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Week 72: Freya v. Fran[]
Winner!! Fran 46 v. 38 |
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Battle of the anthropomorphic allies. There are plenty of long, wordy explanations that I might use to describe this fight, but it boils down to this: ratty poke-poke or bunny bow-bow? | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]I'm having a difficult time choosing who to vote for. On the one hand, Freya is a badass Dragon. On the other, Fran is a sexy Viera. Freya is a rat creature, and certainly hidious. And she's not to good in battle (Stiener and Zidane are both finer physical attackers). Yet Fran has no special ability, though she was tough as nails with the Formuhault. And Fran hangs with Balthier. And FFXII beats FFIX any day. I think I know who to vote for now. --BlueHighwind 21:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC) I'm guessing Freya takes the win in the ontest of who's the more popular Anthropomorphic animal female animal character who's name begins with "Fr". Fran's appearance is a bit ridiculous and Viera already look ridiculous too. Are were going for three in a row with FFIX characters? That'd be great --AnonyMan 22:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Once again, many vote blindly for the hot one. Is anyone surprised by this? Drake Clawfang 14:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
No, really, you should all go fuck yourselves you disgusting perverts. --Alcaeus
I laughed at one User's comment about Fran being the only Non-human Main like it's a big deal. FFIX's cast barely has any humans in it and is cooler most other games. And it's hard to call those you might consider "human". Then that just may be because of the whismical deisgn of the game.AnonyMan 23:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree with alot of what Chaos is saying except for one thing: i'd say what steals the show in ffxii are the relationships between balthier and his dad, and basch and gabranth. maybe i need to read a little closer but nobody ever seems to mention the relationship that basch had with his brother. basch is kinda to me what vaan is to anonyman (as fucking stupid as that is). id say hes considered an outcast even more so than fran because the fact that everyone thought he killed the king and took it so far that they wanted him dead. im gonna go out on a limb and say that the story should have been told through his eyes, as they originally planned it, or balthiers eyes as a close second. either perspective would have easily outperformed vaan. square's biggest mistake in that game was making vaan the main perspective. vaan should've just been somebody they came across that decides to follow them because he wants to be a sky pirate. thats my two cents. Etch 13:36, 8 June 2008
Yumiko:I like them both so im not going to vote. Anyways I got the english version of XII finally and I just want to say "omg whats wrong with Balthier's voice" Its like so thick. I personally like his japanese seiyu better. I agree with BlueHighwind (way back up top) I looked through all of the old 'fights' and most had FF IX characters. though i think the problem is most (like me) stsrted playing Final Fantasy with FFVII so as a result we dont know much about the past games. Plus there IS a reason Fran walks around with skimpy armour and heels. Its all for the guys. Oh well!-Saraija Merinas 15:55 6-9-08 This is probably the part in which I incur the wrath of everyone, but I am glad that Vaan was the main character. Before you begin lobbing hand grenades and torches, hear me out. Rabanastre is a huge city, comprised mostly of two socio-economic classes, the wealthy citizens and the poor low-towners. Vaan is nothing more than a pathetic street urchin with illusions of grandeur. He wants to be a sky pirate, but will never achieve his dream. He is poor and ignorant and does not have the knowledge to be able to make something of himself. In comes Balthier (my favorite character) and the rest of the crew. Do they need him? Absolutely not. They all have their own agendas, their own sense of worth and importance to the story. The ties that connect each of them together are very delicate. There were many times while playing the game where I thought it almost unbelievable that this group of characters banded together. Granted, they come in pairs, (Balthier/Fran, Ashe/Basch, Vaan/Penelo) but to me, each couple could just separate from the rest at any time. What makes Vaan important is he is a nobody, but for some reason, is allowed to tag along with the rest of the group despite his ridiculous blunders (remember when he inquired Fran about her age?), they teach him, indirectly of course, how to manage himself in the world. Like many people from low socio-economic backgrounds, he doesn't know how to act in different situations. (Think of the person at a fine dining restaurant who eats with their hands and doesn't know which fork to use) Ultimately, as they teach Vaan about the world, they teach us, the player, about their universe and it may be this ignorance that keeps the delicate tie from snapping.Also, if the main character were anyone but Vaan, it would be ridiculous that we didn't know their complete histories. If, for the sake of argument, we played as Basch, we must know from the beginning that it was actually his brother that killed the king. If we were not privy to this information, then I would feel personally let down and perhaps cheated. You can't see the world through the eyes of a character without being informed of major life incidents. On the same chord, if Zidane knew that he was the Angel of Death, he would be an unsuitable main character. It is due to the fact that he has no recollection, that he is able to function as our number one. And finally, sometimes it is necessary to have a main character that is ignorant, so that the lessons the other characters have to offer are more meaningful. If Vaan were more knowledgeable, there would be no point to teach him the ways of the world.Lastly, every character is given personality. One does not need to be loud and boisterous to be considered as having one. So yes, Fran does have a personality and a very strong one at that. She has lived long enough to know not to shove it in people's faces. Also, it is not the Viera way.--High Summoner 00:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
When you pit characters from two of the most despicable games in the series, nobody wins. Chocotard 00:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
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Week 71: Vivi v. Aeris[]
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The most beloved Black Mage meets the most beloved White Mage. Is Vivi's magical potency unbeatable, or can the keeper of Holy fend off this stout mage? | |||||
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Peanut Gallery[]Excuse me while I weep for having to make this decision...Drake Clawfang 02:17, 30 May 2008 (UTC) Alright, another great character from Final Fantasy IX is up. Thene again it's hard to find a character from the game who isn't. Can IX's characters go for another win in row? Here's hoping for it.AnonyMan 04:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
It would appear that this battle is decidedly less heated. Also, that DO NOT ADD COMMENTS OR EDIT ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE!!! thing is there for a reason. Chocotard 11:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
As much as Vivi pwns the ass of most FF characters, two FFIX characters in a row can be considered one-sided. --AuronKaizer 23:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC) It's never made clear whether or not Vivi dies in the end. -- Drake If one more voter gives a vote for Vivi because Aeris dies, I will change my vote in protest. You all should be ashamed of your self. She was a beautiful, non-existant, fictional character and she deserves better. --BlueHighwind 01:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm a petty man, so I moved a vote placed above mine. For the first time in DNC history I cast my vote first and I wanna keep it as such. Sue me. BH, feel free to do the same so I feel less immature. Drake Clawfang 02:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Getting pretty sick of these Aeris death excuses myself, although Vivi has a high vote count a lot of them are ludicrous and should be discounted, as memorable as people claim Vivi is every time i try to remember FFIX all i can think of is Zidane's constant jokes about Steiner. --Thunderkeg 23:42, 2 June (UTC)
Is it just me, or it FFVII always getting more anon. votes then its competitor. Cloudofdarkness
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