Welcome mortals, to the Soul Shrine! Here the spirits of the dead and the forgotten congregate en masse. Longing for the eternal rest they will never be granted, these damned souls spar in weekly one-on-one competitions of strength for the entertainment of the living. Come in, don't by shy. Take a seat and cast in your lot and your vote for the competitor of your favor. Let the games begin!
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While I still have to play both of their respective games (meaning DoC and X-2), I have played their original games. And it is just like Bluesey said: Vincent is forgetable in VII, while Yuna is the single most important character in X. Easy choice as such. MirrorshardSceada 14:10, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
Votes for Vincent
Not even close to a contest. Jimcloud 00:01, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
Its time... to shave the world. The SirLaguna 00:36, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
Not really a tough choice. He doesn't do a near 180 with his personality in all the games/extra stuff he's in. Plus, gotta give him the "Secret Character" props. King of Noobs 02:21, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
I heard DoC was a bad game that ruined Vincent, but he's actually one of the strongest gunners ever (Death Penalty = win - when charged). SidVI 12:03, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
Aw, don't base Vincent on DoC thats biest (no offence)Clarent (talk/contribs) 22:29, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
Why not? People are basing Yuna on X-2. Aside from that, basing Vincent on FF7 basically means sticking Yuna of any sort against a silent, no-personality excuse for a character. Yuffie was a secret character and got lines. Vincent just hung around for battle.
Aside from that, X-2, from personal experience, is pretty much in all ways better than DoC. For one, it has one of the best battle systems in the series. For two, Yuna doesn't do a 180 so much as she's just had a lot of time between games to grow. Yuna in X-2 is the product of her actually trying to live for herself after a lifetime of never owning her own life and, from experience, it's portrayed quite well. Yes, even the clothes. I have a closet full of clothes I can no longer comfortably wear in public. >.<
Vincent on the other hand started out as nothing and didn't exactly improve from there given his own game. I found it very hard to empathize with him because he STILL had no personality, only he had more lines to express it. He has a story; just not a character. Red XIII was characterized better than him and has the dubious distinction of having the least screen time outside of the original game of any of the main cast. BluestarultorBSA 02:06, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
Bluesey, you win The Game, the Internet and the World. THANK YOU! Someone else who agrees with me on everything you just said. TheBlueDragoon05:46, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
Um, I meant base them on their individuality and personality, not by the games..anyway,ah wellClarent (talk/contribs) 06:55, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
it is INDEED hard to decide!But somehow,I feel that,this fight isn't equal...If we look at them as characters,who have their own games and sidestories,both of them would be weak(I think!),but somehow,I love and hate these characters a lot at the same time!Yuna is a REAL main character:without her,the story couldn't go on,but Vincent was not necessarily an important part of the whole game.Yuna had a kind personality,(What changed a lot since the main game!)and Vincent was not the talkative type,but that made him so cool!Yuna nearly lost her life,at a high cost,but at the end,she survived everything,and she got back her love...these are things,that are not true for Vincent... by the way, summoning beasts, will never be as intresting,as being the beast itself!So,this is why I decided to choose the gunner,but Yuna is also a well created character of the series,and If I had the chance,I'd choose both of them!
You are awesome at creating text walls..(no offence)Clarent (talk/contribs) 22:55, July 26, 2011 (UTC)
I had forgotten about Vincent's Limit Breaks all together. Yeah, add on points for transformation. King of Noobs 13:28, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
I think I wouldn't call it a TEXT WALL, I'd rather call it the flood of my passionate emotions through words! Colosseum is about (Friendly) Fighting, not just signing a vote, huh?--LonelyRose 08:23, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
For purposes of this fight, since the columns are so tiny, please make your voting rationale short. Or remember we have the viewer's box for discussing fights. :) DoreikuKuroofangu 00:01, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
I had considered it in place of Summoner, but I felt the diversity between these four worked better. DoreikuKuroofangu 04:20, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
It's not just Red Mages that are missing... what about Time Mages and Green Mages? Also, since you're counting Summoners as a type of mage, what about Elementalists, Geomancers and... well, any others that I might have forgotten? :P -- SorcerorNobody 14:19, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
True on all counts SN, but none of those except the Time Mage are as widely known or used in the series as these four. DoreikuKuroofangu 16:48, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
Ok, take them one by one:
White Mage: Heals... and ... thats all... anyways, they are only annoying for me!
Summoner: I'd happily choose them, because summoning is a beautiful part of magic, but it is extremely costly, and summons are risky to use, because many times, they don't work as well, as we'd expect!
Blue Mage: Well, this job certainly looks intresting, but it's not as easy to use, as it seems. Going around, searching for certain monsters, then get hit by them, and at the end, we don't know how to use them... Ok... Weird...
And the vote goes to:
Black Mage: The shady faced little sprite became the No°1 Icon of FF games, and no wonder, it still acts pretty good. Magic has always been stable. All of us know the difference between a FIRE and a FIRAGA spell, and we know what we can expect from them too... Healing is not always necesarry, summoning can be risky, and blue magic is hard to use, but a simple spell like BLIZZAGA, can wipe out our enemies easily. Soooo... Easy to use, easy to get used to, and always looks pretty good... ohh, and by the way, they can equip daggers and knives, so it can also cause some major physical damage, unlike the other mages .... :-D --LonelyRose 21:21, July 17, 2011 (UTC)